Talk:Beetle - Revision history

BerylRoll at 21:17, 10 May 2026

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	Ok, I started to re-write this to say how the Japanese and the IDW books each created a different personality for this guy... when I realized something: '''Japanese release''' - "Insecticon (japan)" a forest warrior who's a master of surprise and '''US release''' - [[Beetle]] a reclusive interrigator that's only with the Preds cause they let him get his sick jollies. With the IDW release we now have what is basically two seperate characters sharing the same toy, right? This is the same as with [[Apache]] and [[B'Boom]] or [[Bighorn]] and [[Bonecrusher (BW)\|Bonecrusher]] now so they should be split on to seperate pages. Yes? --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 01:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		Ok, I started to re-write this to say how the Japanese and the IDW books each created a different personality for this guy... when I realized something: '''Japanese release''' - "Insecticon (japan)" a forest warrior who's a master of surprise and '''US release''' - [[Beetle]] a reclusive interrigator that's only with the Preds cause they let him get his sick jollies. With the IDW release we now have what is basically two seperate characters sharing the same toy, right? This is the same as with [[Apache (BW)\|Apache]] and [[B'Boom]] or [[Bighorn (BW)\|Bighorn]] and [[Bonecrusher (BW)\|Bonecrusher]] now so they should be split on to seperate pages. Yes? --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 01:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

	:That seems consistent with our approach this far. The character ''already'' had a distinct name in Japan, so... -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		:That seems consistent with our approach this far. The character ''already'' had a distinct name in Japan, so... -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Saix: clean up, replaced: → (2), [[Ginrai| → [[Ginrai (human)|

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clean up, replaced: → (2), [[Ginrai| → [[Ginrai (human)|

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	Ok, I started to re-write this to say how the Japanese and the IDW books each created a different personality for this guy... when I realized something: '''Japanese release''' - "Insecticon (japan)" a forest warrior who's a master of surprise and '''US release''' - [[Beetle]] a reclusive interrigator that's only with the Preds cause they let him get his sick jollies. With the IDW release we now have what is basically two seperate characters sharing the same toy, right? This is the same as with [[Apache]] and [[B'Boom]] or [[Bighorn]] and [[Bonecrusher (BW)\|Bonecrusher]] now so they should be split on to seperate pages. Yes? --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 01:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		Ok, I started to re-write this to say how the Japanese and the IDW books each created a different personality for this guy... when I realized something: '''Japanese release''' - "Insecticon (japan)" a forest warrior who's a master of surprise and '''US release''' - [[Beetle]] a reclusive interrigator that's only with the Preds cause they let him get his sick jollies. With the IDW release we now have what is basically two seperate characters sharing the same toy, right? This is the same as with [[Apache]] and [[B'Boom]] or [[Bighorn]] and [[Bonecrusher (BW)\|Bonecrusher]] now so they should be split on to seperate pages. Yes? --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 01:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

	:That seems consistent with our approach this far. The character ''already'' had a distinct name in Japan, so... -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		:That seems consistent with our approach this far. The character ''already'' had a distinct name in Japan, so... -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

	::I disagree. One of Zac's cited examples, Bighorn, is a redeco of Bonecrusher from a subsequent toyline, which I don't think is a case of "same toy, two characters." As for the other, Apache and B'Boom may be identical, but Apache was also released as part of a different series.		::I disagree. One of Zac's cited examples, Bighorn, is a redeco of Bonecrusher from a subsequent toyline, which I don't think is a case of "same toy, two characters." As for the other, Apache and B'Boom may be identical, but Apache was also released as part of a different series.
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	:::I disagree. We've said before that the focus of this wiki is on character rather than toy. And, they are two seperate very different characters with different names even. That should trump the fact that they just happen to share a toy, and make them two different entries. --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 13:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		:::I disagree. We've said before that the focus of this wiki is on character rather than toy. And, they are two seperate very different characters with different names even. That should trump the fact that they just happen to share a toy, and make them two different entries. --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 13:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
	::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

	:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[Ginrai\|God Ginrai]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Powermaster Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}		:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[Ginrai (human)\|God Ginrai]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Powermaster Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}

	::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Foffy the Sheep at 11:34, 26 February 2016

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	:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[God Ginrai]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Powermaster Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}		:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[Ginrai\|God Ginrai]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Powermaster Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}

	::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

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	Ok, I started to re-write this to say how the Japanese and the IDW books each created a different personality for this guy... when I realized something: '''Japanese release''' - [[Insecticon (japan)]] a forest warrior who's a master of surprise and '''US release''' - [[Beetle]] a reclusive interrigator that's only with the Preds cause they let him get his sick jollies. With the IDW release we now have what is basically two seperate characters sharing the same toy, right? This is the same as with [[Apache]] and [[B'Boom]] or [[Bighorn]] and [[Bonecrusher (BW)\|Bonecrusher]] now so they should be split on to seperate pages. Yes? --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 01:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		Ok, I started to re-write this to say how the Japanese and the IDW books each created a different personality for this guy... when I realized something: '''Japanese release''' - "Insecticon (japan)" a forest warrior who's a master of surprise and '''US release''' - [[Beetle]] a reclusive interrigator that's only with the Preds cause they let him get his sick jollies. With the IDW release we now have what is basically two seperate characters sharing the same toy, right? This is the same as with [[Apache]] and [[B'Boom]] or [[Bighorn]] and [[Bonecrusher (BW)\|Bonecrusher]] now so they should be split on to seperate pages. Yes? --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 01:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

	:That seems consistent with our approach this far. The character ''already'' had a distinct name in Japan, so... -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		:That seems consistent with our approach this far. The character ''already'' had a distinct name in Japan, so... -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Geewunling at 13:27, 11 July 2009

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	::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

	:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[God Ginrai]] and ~~Powermaster~~ [[Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}		:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[God Ginrai]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Powermaster Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}

	::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Geewunling at 12:09, 3 July 2009

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	Ok, I started to re-write this to say how the Japanese and the IDW books each created a different personality for this guy... when I realized something: '''Japanese release''' - [[Insecticon (japan)]] a forest warrior who's a master of surprise and '''US release''' - [[Beetle]] a reclusive interrigator that's only with the Preds cause they let him get his sick jollies. With the IDW release we now have what is basically two seperate characters sharing the same toy, right? This is the same as with [[Apache]] and [[B'Boom]] or [[Bighorn]] and [[Bonecrusher]] now so they should be split on to seperate pages. Yes? --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 01:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		Ok, I started to re-write this to say how the Japanese and the IDW books each created a different personality for this guy... when I realized something: '''Japanese release''' - [[Insecticon (japan)]] a forest warrior who's a master of surprise and '''US release''' - [[Beetle]] a reclusive interrigator that's only with the Preds cause they let him get his sick jollies. With the IDW release we now have what is basically two seperate characters sharing the same toy, right? This is the same as with [[Apache]] and [[B'Boom]] or [[Bighorn]] and [[Bonecrusher (BW)\|Bonecrusher]] now so they should be split on to seperate pages. Yes? --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 01:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

	:That seems consistent with our approach this far. The character ''already'' had a distinct name in Japan, so... -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		:That seems consistent with our approach this far. The character ''already'' had a distinct name in Japan, so... -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

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	:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[God Ginrai]] and Powermaster [[Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}		:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[God Ginrai]] and Powermaster [[Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}

	::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Steve-o: signed Zac's last post

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	::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

	:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[God Ginrai]] and Powermaster [[Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former.		:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[God Ginrai]] and Powermaster [[Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}

	::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Derik at 18:36, 4 October 2007

2007-10-04T18:36:14Z

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	::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

	:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[God Ginrai]] and Powermaster [[Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[God Ginrai]] and Powermaster [[Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former.

			::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

ZacWilliam at 13:44, 4 October 2007

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	:::I disagree. We've said before that the focus of this wiki is on character rather than toy. And, they are two seperate very different characters with different names even. That should trump the fact that they just happen to share a toy, and make them two different entries. --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 13:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		:::I disagree. We've said before that the focus of this wiki is on character rather than toy. And, they are two seperate very different characters with different names even. That should trump the fact that they just happen to share a toy, and make them two different entries. --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 13:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
	::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

			:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[God Ginrai]] and Powermaster [[Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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			==Different personalities==
	Ok, I started to re-write this to say how the Japanese and the IDW books each created a different personality for this guy... when I realized something: '''Japanese release''' - "Insecticon (japan)" a forest warrior who's a master of surprise and '''US release''' - [[Beetle]] a reclusive interrigator that's only with the Preds cause they let him get his sick jollies. With the IDW release we now have what is basically two seperate characters sharing the same toy, right? This is the same as with [[Apache]] and [[B'Boom]] or [[Bighorn]] and [[Bonecrusher (BW)\|Bonecrusher]] now so they should be split on to seperate pages. Yes? --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 01:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		Ok, I started to re-write this to say how the Japanese and the IDW books each created a different personality for this guy... when I realized something: '''Japanese release''' - "Insecticon (japan)" a forest warrior who's a master of surprise and '''US release''' - [[Beetle]] a reclusive interrigator that's only with the Preds cause they let him get his sick jollies. With the IDW release we now have what is basically two seperate characters sharing the same toy, right? This is the same as with [[Apache]] and [[B'Boom]] or [[Bighorn]] and [[Bonecrusher (BW)\|Bonecrusher]] now so they should be split on to seperate pages. Yes? --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 01:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

	:That seems consistent with our approach this far. The character ''already'' had a distinct name in Japan, so... -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		:That seems consistent with our approach this far. The character ''already'' had a distinct name in Japan, so... -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

	::I disagree. One of Zac's cited examples, Bighorn, is a redeco of Bonecrusher from a subsequent toyline, which I don't think is a case of "same toy, two characters." As for the other, Apache and B'Boom may be identical, but Apache was also released as part of a different series.		::I disagree. One of Zac's cited examples, Bighorn, is a redeco of Bonecrusher from a subsequent toyline, which I don't think is a case of "same toy, two characters." As for the other, Apache and B'Boom may be identical, but Apache was also released as part of a different series.
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	:::I disagree. We've said before that the focus of this wiki is on character rather than toy. And, they are two seperate very different characters with different names even. That should trump the fact that they just happen to share a toy, and make them two different entries. --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 13:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		:::I disagree. We've said before that the focus of this wiki is on character rather than toy. And, they are two seperate very different characters with different names even. That should trump the fact that they just happen to share a toy, and make them two different entries. --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 13:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
	::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

	:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[Ginrai\|God Ginrai]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Powermaster Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}		:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[Ginrai (human)\|God Ginrai]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Powermaster Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}

	::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

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	::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

	:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[God Ginrai]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Powermaster Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}		:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[Ginrai\|God Ginrai]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Powermaster Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}

	::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

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	::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		::::So are Laserwave and Marvel Comics Shockwave going to get two different pages now? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

	:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[God Ginrai]] and ~~Powermaster~~ [[Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}		:::::I think there's a line between "two takes on the same character" and "two different characters." It's a common sense thing. Rattrap and Rat-achu are very different in portrayle but are still the same character, just two takes on it. It's the same classic case of Comic vs Cartoon Grimlock: quite different versions of the same guy. Where as [[God Ginrai]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Powermaster Optimus Prime]] are two different guys who share a toy. Thus the seperate pages. I'm just arguing that Beetle vs Insecticon seems to be the later case IMO rather than the former. {{unsigned\|ZacWilliam}}

	::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)		::I think the separate name is at least somewhat interesting... but lets wait until they profile Panther to make a decision, see if he's Ravage. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 18:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)