Talk:Blitzwing (BB) - Revision history

Myouens78 at 12:12, 10 November 2020

2020-11-10T12:12:44Z

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	"''if perhaps the character was originally intended to be Starscream and had his identity switched (during the film's well-documented re-editing?)''"		"''if perhaps the character was originally intended to be Starscream and had his identity switched (during the film's well-documented re-editing?)''"

	I dispute this note; the movie was ''originally'' intended to be a prequel and Blitzwing (albeit still unnamed in the movie itself) played the same role. Reshoots and re-editing was later made, pushing the release date back by six months because it was decided to change it from a prequel to a "new story-telling universe", with changes to distance it from the Bay movies.		I dispute this note; the movie was ''originally'' intended to be a prequel and Blitzwing (albeit still unnamed in the movie itself) played the same role. Reshoots and re-editing was later made, pushing the release date back by six months because it was decided to change it from a prequel to a "new story-telling universe", with changes to distance it from the Bay movies. The above quote even mentions the 'film's well-documented re-editing', yet doesn't seem to take into account what was actually changed.

	The point is, as far as being an originally-intended prequel, directly connected to the Bay movies, the character could ''never'' have been intended to be Starscream due to his death and Starscream appearing in the three movies that would've chronologically followed.		The point is, as far as being an originally-intended prequel, directly connected to the Bay movies, the character could ''never'' have been intended to be Starscream due to his death and Starscream appearing in the three movies that would've chronologically followed.

Myouens78: /* Starscream? */

2020-11-10T12:08:50Z

Starscream?

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	"''if perhaps the character was originally intended to be Starscream and had his identity switched (during the film's well-documented re-editing?)''"		"''if perhaps the character was originally intended to be Starscream and had his identity switched (during the film's well-documented re-editing?)''"

	I dispute this note; the movie was ''originally'' intended to be a prequel and Blitzwing (albeit still unnamed in the movie itself) played the same role. Reshoots and re-editing was later made, pushing the release date back by six months because it was decided to change it from a prequel to a "new story-telling universe".		I dispute this note; the movie was ''originally'' intended to be a prequel and Blitzwing (albeit still unnamed in the movie itself) played the same role. Reshoots and re-editing was later made, pushing the release date back by six months because it was decided to change it from a prequel to a "new story-telling universe", with changes to distance it from the Bay movies.

	The point is, as far as being an originally-intended prequel, the character could ''never'' have been intended to be Starscream due to his death and Starscream appearing in the three movies that would've chronologically followed.		The point is, as far as being an originally-intended prequel, directly connected to the Bay movies, the character could ''never'' have been intended to be Starscream due to his death and Starscream appearing in the three movies that would've chronologically followed.

	The link I provided in my edit confirms what ''changes'' occurred during reshoots and re-editing from prequel to reboot, and there are none documented regarding the fight scene between Bumblebee and Blitzwing. Even if my edit and source aren't included I think the above line should at least be removed as it's based on fan speculation following the first trailer but can't have ever been a possibility knowing how the character's scene pans out.		The link I provided in my edit confirms what ''changes'' occurred during reshoots and re-editing from prequel to reboot, and there are none documented regarding the fight scene between Bumblebee and Blitzwing. Even if my edit and source aren't included I think the above line should at least be removed as it's based on fan speculation following the first trailer but can't have ever been a possibility knowing how the character's scene pans out.

	The fact that this wiki's page for Bumblebee maintains it being a prequel rather than a reboot is even more of a case for not saying the character could've been Starscream.		The fact that this wiki's page for Bumblebee maintains it being a prequel rather than a reboot is even more of a case for not saying the character could've been Starscream.

Myouens78 at 12:07, 10 November 2020

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	The point is, as far as being an originally-intended prequel, the character could ''never'' have been intended to be Starscream due to his death and Starscream appearing in the three movies that would've chronologically followed.		The point is, as far as being an originally-intended prequel, the character could ''never'' have been intended to be Starscream due to his death and Starscream appearing in the three movies that would've chronologically followed.

	The link I provided in my edit confirms what ''changes'' occurred during reshoots and re-editing from prequel to reboot, and there are none documented regarding the fight scene between Bumblebee and Blitzwing. Even if my edit and source aren't included I think the above should at least be removed as it's based on fan speculation following the first trailer but can't have ever been a possibility knowing how the character's scene pans out.		The link I provided in my edit confirms what ''changes'' occurred during reshoots and re-editing from prequel to reboot, and there are none documented regarding the fight scene between Bumblebee and Blitzwing. Even if my edit and source aren't included I think the above line should at least be removed as it's based on fan speculation following the first trailer but can't have ever been a possibility knowing how the character's scene pans out.

			The fact that this wiki's page for Bumblebee maintains it being a prequel rather than a reboot is even more of a case for not saying the character could've been Starscream.

Myouens78 at 11:58, 10 November 2020

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	I noticed while rewatching the scene where he and BumbleBee fight that Blitzwing's voice appears to change throughout it. When he shouts "DID YOU THINK YOU COULD HIDE?!" and says "Now you'll die screaming!", he sounds similar to his G1 incarnation. When he tries to interrogate Bee and removes his voicebox, He sounds more robotic and sorta sadistic. When he announces that Bee's a "Traitor to Cybertron" Blitzwing basically sounds like Shockwave from Transformers Prime with a few minor Vocal Effects added (Yes, I am aware they share a Voice Actor). Is this some sort of oversight by David Sobolov that was overlooked by the Editing Team? Perhaps even an intentional reference to his Animated incarnation? Or could it be that I'm overthinking this as usual? [[User:DrXshock\|DrXshock]] ([[User talk:DrXshock\|talk]]) 00:08, 22 February 2019 (EST)		I noticed while rewatching the scene where he and BumbleBee fight that Blitzwing's voice appears to change throughout it. When he shouts "DID YOU THINK YOU COULD HIDE?!" and says "Now you'll die screaming!", he sounds similar to his G1 incarnation. When he tries to interrogate Bee and removes his voicebox, He sounds more robotic and sorta sadistic. When he announces that Bee's a "Traitor to Cybertron" Blitzwing basically sounds like Shockwave from Transformers Prime with a few minor Vocal Effects added (Yes, I am aware they share a Voice Actor). Is this some sort of oversight by David Sobolov that was overlooked by the Editing Team? Perhaps even an intentional reference to his Animated incarnation? Or could it be that I'm overthinking this as usual? [[User:DrXshock\|DrXshock]] ([[User talk:DrXshock\|talk]]) 00:08, 22 February 2019 (EST)

			==Starscream?==
	"''if perhaps the character was originally intended to be Starscream and had his identity switched (during the film's well-documented re-editing?)''"		"''if perhaps the character was originally intended to be Starscream and had his identity switched (during the film's well-documented re-editing?)''"

Myouens78 at 11:57, 10 November 2020

2020-11-10T11:57:43Z

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	==Does Blitzwing's voice actually change during the movie?==		==Does Blitzwing's voice actually change during the movie?==
	I noticed while rewatching the scene where he and BumbleBee fight that Blitzwing's voice appears to change throughout it. When he shouts "DID YOU THINK YOU COULD HIDE?!" and says "Now you'll die screaming!", he sounds similar to his G1 incarnation. When he tries to interrogate Bee and removes his voicebox, He sounds more robotic and sorta sadistic. When he announces that Bee's a "Traitor to Cybertron" Blitzwing basically sounds like Shockwave from Transformers Prime with a few minor Vocal Effects added (Yes, I am aware they share a Voice Actor). Is this some sort of oversight by David Sobolov that was overlooked by the Editing Team? Perhaps even an intentional reference to his Animated incarnation? Or could it be that I'm overthinking this as usual? [[User:DrXshock\|DrXshock]] ([[User talk:DrXshock\|talk]]) 00:08, 22 February 2019 (EST)		I noticed while rewatching the scene where he and BumbleBee fight that Blitzwing's voice appears to change throughout it. When he shouts "DID YOU THINK YOU COULD HIDE?!" and says "Now you'll die screaming!", he sounds similar to his G1 incarnation. When he tries to interrogate Bee and removes his voicebox, He sounds more robotic and sorta sadistic. When he announces that Bee's a "Traitor to Cybertron" Blitzwing basically sounds like Shockwave from Transformers Prime with a few minor Vocal Effects added (Yes, I am aware they share a Voice Actor). Is this some sort of oversight by David Sobolov that was overlooked by the Editing Team? Perhaps even an intentional reference to his Animated incarnation? Or could it be that I'm overthinking this as usual? [[User:DrXshock\|DrXshock]] ([[User talk:DrXshock\|talk]]) 00:08, 22 February 2019 (EST)

			"''if perhaps the character was originally intended to be Starscream and had his identity switched (during the film's well-documented re-editing?)''"

			I dispute this note; the movie was ''originally'' intended to be a prequel and Blitzwing (albeit still unnamed in the movie itself) played the same role. Reshoots and re-editing was later made, pushing the release date back by six months because it was decided to change it from a prequel to a "new story-telling universe".

			The point is, as far as being an originally-intended prequel, the character could ''never'' have been intended to be Starscream due to his death and Starscream appearing in the three movies that would've chronologically followed.

			The link I provided in my edit confirms what ''changes'' occurred during reshoots and re-editing from prequel to reboot, and there are none documented regarding the fight scene between Bumblebee and Blitzwing. Even if my edit and source aren't included I think the above should at least be removed as it's based on fan speculation following the first trailer but can't have ever been a possibility knowing how the character's scene pans out.

Abates: Talk pages are for discussing article improvements, not speculating on future toys.

2019-07-12T01:06:37Z

Talk pages are for discussing article improvements, not speculating on future toys.

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	==Does Blitzwing's voice actually change during the movie?==		==Does Blitzwing's voice actually change during the movie?==
	I noticed while rewatching the scene where he and BumbleBee fight that Blitzwing's voice appears to change throughout it. When he shouts "DID YOU THINK YOU COULD HIDE?!" and says "Now you'll die screaming!", he sounds similar to his G1 incarnation. When he tries to interrogate Bee and removes his voicebox, He sounds more robotic and sorta sadistic. When he announces that Bee's a "Traitor to Cybertron" Blitzwing basically sounds like Shockwave from Transformers Prime with a few minor Vocal Effects added (Yes, I am aware they share a Voice Actor). Is this some sort of oversight by David Sobolov that was overlooked by the Editing Team? Perhaps even an intentional reference to his Animated incarnation? Or could it be that I'm overthinking this as usual? [[User:DrXshock\|DrXshock]] ([[User talk:DrXshock\|talk]]) 00:08, 22 February 2019 (EST)		I noticed while rewatching the scene where he and BumbleBee fight that Blitzwing's voice appears to change throughout it. When he shouts "DID YOU THINK YOU COULD HIDE?!" and says "Now you'll die screaming!", he sounds similar to his G1 incarnation. When he tries to interrogate Bee and removes his voicebox, He sounds more robotic and sorta sadistic. When he announces that Bee's a "Traitor to Cybertron" Blitzwing basically sounds like Shockwave from Transformers Prime with a few minor Vocal Effects added (Yes, I am aware they share a Voice Actor). Is this some sort of oversight by David Sobolov that was overlooked by the Editing Team? Perhaps even an intentional reference to his Animated incarnation? Or could it be that I'm overthinking this as usual? [[User:DrXshock\|DrXshock]] ([[User talk:DrXshock\|talk]]) 00:08, 22 February 2019 (EST)

	~~== Studio Series ==~~

	~~As many characters from the movies have gotten Studio Series figures, including characters from Bumblebee, is it likely that HasTak will make a Blitzwing toy?~~

Skywarp Prime: /* Studio Series */ new section

2019-07-12T01:00:19Z

Studio Series: new section

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	==Does Blitzwing's voice actually change during the movie?==		==Does Blitzwing's voice actually change during the movie?==
	I noticed while rewatching the scene where he and BumbleBee fight that Blitzwing's voice appears to change throughout it. When he shouts "DID YOU THINK YOU COULD HIDE?!" and says "Now you'll die screaming!", he sounds similar to his G1 incarnation. When he tries to interrogate Bee and removes his voicebox, He sounds more robotic and sorta sadistic. When he announces that Bee's a "Traitor to Cybertron" Blitzwing basically sounds like Shockwave from Transformers Prime with a few minor Vocal Effects added (Yes, I am aware they share a Voice Actor). Is this some sort of oversight by David Sobolov that was overlooked by the Editing Team? Perhaps even an intentional reference to his Animated incarnation? Or could it be that I'm overthinking this as usual? [[User:DrXshock\|DrXshock]] ([[User talk:DrXshock\|talk]]) 00:08, 22 February 2019 (EST)		I noticed while rewatching the scene where he and BumbleBee fight that Blitzwing's voice appears to change throughout it. When he shouts "DID YOU THINK YOU COULD HIDE?!" and says "Now you'll die screaming!", he sounds similar to his G1 incarnation. When he tries to interrogate Bee and removes his voicebox, He sounds more robotic and sorta sadistic. When he announces that Bee's a "Traitor to Cybertron" Blitzwing basically sounds like Shockwave from Transformers Prime with a few minor Vocal Effects added (Yes, I am aware they share a Voice Actor). Is this some sort of oversight by David Sobolov that was overlooked by the Editing Team? Perhaps even an intentional reference to his Animated incarnation? Or could it be that I'm overthinking this as usual? [[User:DrXshock\|DrXshock]] ([[User talk:DrXshock\|talk]]) 00:08, 22 February 2019 (EST)

			== Studio Series ==

			As many characters from the movies have gotten Studio Series figures, including characters from Bumblebee, is it likely that HasTak will make a Blitzwing toy?

DrXshock at 05:08, 22 February 2019

2019-02-22T05:08:36Z

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	==Does Blitzwing's voice actually change during the movie?==		==Does Blitzwing's voice actually change during the movie?==
	I noticed while rewatching the scene where he and BumbleBee fight that Blitzwing's voice appears to change throughout it. When he shouts "DID YOU THINK YOU COULD HIDE?!" and says "Now you'll die screaming!", he sounds similar to his G1 incarnation. When he tries to interrogate Bee and removes his voicebox, He sounds more robotic and sorta sadistic. When he announces that Bee's a "Traitor to Cybertron" Blitzwing basically sounds like Shockwave from Transformers Prime with a few minor Vocal Effects added (Yes, I am aware they share a Voice Actor). Is this some sort of oversight by David Sobolov that was overlooked by the Editing Team? Perhaps even an intentional reference to his Animated incarnation? Or could it be that I'm overthinking this as usual?[[User:DrXshock\|DrXshock]] ([[User talk:DrXshock\|talk]]) 00:08, 22 February 2019 (EST)		I noticed while rewatching the scene where he and BumbleBee fight that Blitzwing's voice appears to change throughout it. When he shouts "DID YOU THINK YOU COULD HIDE?!" and says "Now you'll die screaming!", he sounds similar to his G1 incarnation. When he tries to interrogate Bee and removes his voicebox, He sounds more robotic and sorta sadistic. When he announces that Bee's a "Traitor to Cybertron" Blitzwing basically sounds like Shockwave from Transformers Prime with a few minor Vocal Effects added (Yes, I am aware they share a Voice Actor). Is this some sort of oversight by David Sobolov that was overlooked by the Editing Team? Perhaps even an intentional reference to his Animated incarnation? Or could it be that I'm overthinking this as usual? [[User:DrXshock\|DrXshock]] ([[User talk:DrXshock\|talk]]) 00:08, 22 February 2019 (EST)

DrXshock: Forgot to sign my post with my username. Sorry!

2019-02-22T05:08:11Z

Forgot to sign my post with my username. Sorry!

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	==Does Blitzwing's voice actually change during the movie?==		==Does Blitzwing's voice actually change during the movie?==
	I noticed while rewatching the scene where he and BumbleBee fight that Blitzwing's voice appears to change throughout it. When he shouts "DID YOU THINK YOU COULD HIDE?!" and says "Now you'll die screaming!", he sounds similar to his G1 incarnation. When he tries to interrogate Bee and removes his voicebox, He sounds more robotic and sorta sadistic. When he announces that Bee's a "Traitor to Cybertron" Blitzwing basically sounds like Shockwave from Transformers Prime with a few minor Vocal Effects added (Yes, I am aware they share a Voice Actor). Is this some sort of oversight by David Sobolov that was overlooked by the Editing Team? Perhaps even an intentional reference to his Animated incarnation? Or could it be that I'm overthinking this as usual?		I noticed while rewatching the scene where he and BumbleBee fight that Blitzwing's voice appears to change throughout it. When he shouts "DID YOU THINK YOU COULD HIDE?!" and says "Now you'll die screaming!", he sounds similar to his G1 incarnation. When he tries to interrogate Bee and removes his voicebox, He sounds more robotic and sorta sadistic. When he announces that Bee's a "Traitor to Cybertron" Blitzwing basically sounds like Shockwave from Transformers Prime with a few minor Vocal Effects added (Yes, I am aware they share a Voice Actor). Is this some sort of oversight by David Sobolov that was overlooked by the Editing Team? Perhaps even an intentional reference to his Animated incarnation? Or could it be that I'm overthinking this as usual?[[User:DrXshock\|DrXshock]] ([[User talk:DrXshock\|talk]]) 00:08, 22 February 2019 (EST)

DrXshock: Added a section about Blitzwing's apparent voice change throughout him and Bee's fight scene.

2019-02-22T05:07:40Z

Added a section about Blitzwing's apparent voice change throughout him and Bee's fight scene.

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			==Does Blitzwing's voice actually change during the movie?==
			I noticed while rewatching the scene where he and BumbleBee fight that Blitzwing's voice appears to change throughout it. When he shouts "DID YOU THINK YOU COULD HIDE?!" and says "Now you'll die screaming!", he sounds similar to his G1 incarnation. When he tries to interrogate Bee and removes his voicebox, He sounds more robotic and sorta sadistic. When he announces that Bee's a "Traitor to Cybertron" Blitzwing basically sounds like Shockwave from Transformers Prime with a few minor Vocal Effects added (Yes, I am aware they share a Voice Actor). Is this some sort of oversight by David Sobolov that was overlooked by the Editing Team? Perhaps even an intentional reference to his Animated incarnation? Or could it be that I'm overthinking this as usual?