Talk:Camshaft (G1) - Revision history

Poliwag06: /* Camshafts arms can't spin a 360? */ new section

2023-11-12T13:55:56Z

Camshafts arms can't spin a 360?: new section

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	Is the ''Universe'' toy ''actually'' a Spychanger, or is it a case of "he's a Gobot redeco from after 2000"? --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 00:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)		Is the ''Universe'' toy ''actually'' a Spychanger, or is it a case of "he's a Gobot redeco from after 2000"? --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 00:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

			== Camshafts arms can't spin a 360? ==

			https://youtu.be/QxAK_a9yzvE?si=aVr5P6jbRdRBOomU
			This vid's camshafts arms can't do a 360 in bot mode despite being meant to be able to. Is it faulty?
			[[User:Poliwag06\|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06\|talk]]) 08:55, 12 November 2023 (EST)

Deceptitran: /* Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 - */

2009-03-25T01:40:58Z

Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 -

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	== Spychanger cat ==		== Spychanger cat ==

	Is the ''Universe'' toy ''actually'' a Spychanger, or is it a case of "he's a Gobot redeco from after 2000"? --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 00:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		Is the ''Universe'' toy ''actually'' a Spychanger, or is it a case of "he's a Gobot redeco from after 2000"? --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 00:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

FFN: Talk:Camshaft moved to Talk:Camshaft (G1): There's a movie toy with this name now

2007-09-24T21:06:20Z

Talk:Camshaft moved to Talk:Camshaft (G1): There's a movie toy with this name now

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FortMax: /* Spychanger cat */

2007-07-29T00:27:36Z

Spychanger cat

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	Is the ''Universe'' toy ''actually'' a Spychanger, or is it a case of "he's a Gobot redeco from after 2000"?<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		Is the ''Universe'' toy ''actually'' a Spychanger, or is it a case of "he's a Gobot redeco from after 2000"? --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 00:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

FortMax: Spychanger cat

2007-07-29T00:02:48Z

Spychanger cat

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	:Actually, I think Alternator Camshaft's quote fits better with him originally being Bluestreak, considering, but that's neither here nor there. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 19:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)		:Actually, I think Alternator Camshaft's quote fits better with him originally being Bluestreak, considering, but that's neither here nor there. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 19:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

	I'm sure we will run into more examples of "is this a seperate character or not?" (Discussion of the Masterforce Seacons as opposed to the US Seacons is another.) I think that in general the actual decision we make is much less important than offering "full disclosure" on the matter. In this particular case I think it's fine to just have the one article, but then someplace in the article we could have Kil, or whoever, write a little thing making the case that they might not be the same guy. Alternatively, if we were to split into two articles, they should both carry a notice saying "this might be another version of this guy, rather than a completely different guy". --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 19:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		I'm sure we will run into more examples of "is this a seperate character or not?" (Discussion of the Masterforce Seacons as opposed to the US Seacons is another.) I think that in general the actual decision we make is much less important than offering "full disclosure" on the matter. In this particular case I think it's fine to just have the one article, but then someplace in the article we could have Kil, or whoever, write a little thing making the case that they might not be the same guy. Alternatively, if we were to split into two articles, they should both carry a notice saying "this might be another version of this guy, rather than a completely different guy". --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 19:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

			== Spychanger cat ==

			Is the ''Universe'' toy ''actually'' a Spychanger, or is it a case of "he's a Gobot redeco from after 2000"?<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

ItsWalky at 19:40, 30 August 2006

2006-08-30T19:40:13Z

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	Besides, Alternator Camshaft's quote fits better with his TFU bio, but no one is claiming that the Alternator is a new character. --[[User:Spectre\|Spectre]] 18:49, 30 August 2006 (UTC)		Besides, Alternator Camshaft's quote fits better with his TFU bio, but no one is claiming that the Alternator is a new character. --[[User:Spectre\|Spectre]] 18:49, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
			:Actually, I think Alternator Camshaft's quote fits better with him originally being Bluestreak, considering, but that's neither here nor there. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 19:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

	I'm sure we will run into more examples of "is this a seperate character or not?" (Discussion of the Masterforce Seacons as opposed to the US Seacons is another.) I think that in general the actual decision we make is much less important than offering "full disclosure" on the matter. In this particular case I think it's fine to just have the one article, but then someplace in the article we could have Kil, or whoever, write a little thing making the case that they might not be the same guy. Alternatively, if we were to split into two articles, they should both carry a notice saying "this might be another version of this guy, rather than a completely different guy". --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 19:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		I'm sure we will run into more examples of "is this a seperate character or not?" (Discussion of the Masterforce Seacons as opposed to the US Seacons is another.) I think that in general the actual decision we make is much less important than offering "full disclosure" on the matter. In this particular case I think it's fine to just have the one article, but then someplace in the article we could have Kil, or whoever, write a little thing making the case that they might not be the same guy. Alternatively, if we were to split into two articles, they should both carry a notice saying "this might be another version of this guy, rather than a completely different guy". --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 19:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Steve-o: do whatever, just explain it in the article

2006-08-30T19:38:58Z

do whatever, just explain it in the article

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	Marvel Blaster is pretty different from Cartoon Blaster, but they're still G1 Blaster. I don't see why this should be any different. A note, perhaps, on the differing personalities between the toy and DW comic would be fine.		Marvel Blaster is pretty different from Cartoon Blaster, but they're still G1 Blaster. I don't see why this should be any different. A note, perhaps, on the differing personalities between the toy and DW comic would be fine.

	Besides, Alternator Camshaft's quote fits better with his TFU bio, but no one is claiming that the Alternator is a new character. --[[User:Spectre\|Spectre]] 18:49, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		Besides, Alternator Camshaft's quote fits better with his TFU bio, but no one is claiming that the Alternator is a new character. --[[User:Spectre\|Spectre]] 18:49, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

			I'm sure we will run into more examples of "is this a seperate character or not?" (Discussion of the Masterforce Seacons as opposed to the US Seacons is another.) I think that in general the actual decision we make is much less important than offering "full disclosure" on the matter. In this particular case I think it's fine to just have the one article, but then someplace in the article we could have Kil, or whoever, write a little thing making the case that they might not be the same guy. Alternatively, if we were to split into two articles, they should both carry a notice saying "this might be another version of this guy, rather than a completely different guy". --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 19:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Spectre at 18:49, 30 August 2006

2006-08-30T18:49:03Z

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	This wouldn't be the first time the MTMTE books don't agree with something else. Take a look at A-Thundercracker. As Camshaft has the same function as his original toy (and that's ALL the original toy had) and he hangs around a group of Autobots who, for all intents and purposes are the original guys, and I'd say that this Camshaft being a completely seperate character is just making things too difficult. --[[User:Spectre\|Spectre]]		This wouldn't be the first time the MTMTE books don't agree with something else. Take a look at A-Thundercracker. As Camshaft has the same function as his original toy (and that's ALL the original toy had) and he hangs around a group of Autobots who, for all intents and purposes are the original guys, and I'd say that this Camshaft being a completely seperate character is just making things too difficult. --[[User:Spectre\|Spectre]]
	: Especially when, within the next few years, we'll undoubtedly get more Camshafts which are supposed to be the original guy, but with a version of this bio. Forest Lee probably didn't realize the MTMTE bio exists. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 18:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		: Especially when, within the next few years, we'll undoubtedly get more Camshafts which are supposed to be the original guy, but with a version of this bio. Forest Lee probably didn't realize the MTMTE bio exists. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 18:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

			Marvel Blaster is pretty different from Cartoon Blaster, but they're still G1 Blaster. I don't see why this should be any different. A note, perhaps, on the differing personalities between the toy and DW comic would be fine.

			Besides, Alternator Camshaft's quote fits better with his TFU bio, but no one is claiming that the Alternator is a new character. --[[User:Spectre\|Spectre]] 18:49, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

ItsWalky at 18:38, 30 August 2006

2006-08-30T18:38:50Z

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	:what he said. -[[User:207.224.69.213\|207.224.69.213]] 15:43, 30 August 2006 (UTC)		:what he said. -[[User:207.224.69.213\|207.224.69.213]] 15:43, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

	This wouldn't be the first time the MTMTE books don't agree with something else. Take a look at A-Thundercracker. As Camshaft has the same function as his original toy (and that's ALL the original toy had) and he hangs around a group of Autobots who, for all intents and purposes are the original guys, and I'd say that this Camshaft being a completely seperate character is just making things too difficult. --[[User:Spectre\|Spectre]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		This wouldn't be the first time the MTMTE books don't agree with something else. Take a look at A-Thundercracker. As Camshaft has the same function as his original toy (and that's ALL the original toy had) and he hangs around a group of Autobots who, for all intents and purposes are the original guys, and I'd say that this Camshaft being a completely seperate character is just making things too difficult. --[[User:Spectre\|Spectre]]
			: Especially when, within the next few years, we'll undoubtedly get more Camshafts which are supposed to be the original guy, but with a version of this bio. Forest Lee probably didn't realize the MTMTE bio exists. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 18:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Spectre at 18:32, 30 August 2006

2006-08-30T18:32:44Z

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	This wouldn't be the first time the MTMTE books don't agree with something else. Take a look at A-Thundercracker. As Camshaft has the same function as his original toy (and that's ALL the original toy had) and he hangs around a group of Autobots who, for all intents and purposes are the original guys, and I'd say that this Camshaft being a completely seperate character is just making things too difficult.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		This wouldn't be the first time the MTMTE books don't agree with something else. Take a look at A-Thundercracker. As Camshaft has the same function as his original toy (and that's ALL the original toy had) and he hangs around a group of Autobots who, for all intents and purposes are the original guys, and I'd say that this Camshaft being a completely seperate character is just making things too difficult. --[[User:Spectre\|Spectre]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	Besides, Alternator Camshaft's quote fits better with his TFU bio, but no one is claiming that the Alternator is a new character. --[[User:Spectre\|Spectre]] 18:49, 30 August 2006 (UTC)		Besides, Alternator Camshaft's quote fits better with his TFU bio, but no one is claiming that the Alternator is a new character. --[[User:Spectre\|Spectre]] 18:49, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
			:Actually, I think Alternator Camshaft's quote fits better with him originally being Bluestreak, considering, but that's neither here nor there. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 19:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

	I'm sure we will run into more examples of "is this a seperate character or not?" (Discussion of the Masterforce Seacons as opposed to the US Seacons is another.) I think that in general the actual decision we make is much less important than offering "full disclosure" on the matter. In this particular case I think it's fine to just have the one article, but then someplace in the article we could have Kil, or whoever, write a little thing making the case that they might not be the same guy. Alternatively, if we were to split into two articles, they should both carry a notice saying "this might be another version of this guy, rather than a completely different guy". --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 19:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		I'm sure we will run into more examples of "is this a seperate character or not?" (Discussion of the Masterforce Seacons as opposed to the US Seacons is another.) I think that in general the actual decision we make is much less important than offering "full disclosure" on the matter. In this particular case I think it's fine to just have the one article, but then someplace in the article we could have Kil, or whoever, write a little thing making the case that they might not be the same guy. Alternatively, if we were to split into two articles, they should both carry a notice saying "this might be another version of this guy, rather than a completely different guy". --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 19:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	This wouldn't be the first time the MTMTE books don't agree with something else. Take a look at A-Thundercracker. As Camshaft has the same function as his original toy (and that's ALL the original toy had) and he hangs around a group of Autobots who, for all intents and purposes are the original guys, and I'd say that this Camshaft being a completely seperate character is just making things too difficult. --[[User:Spectre\|Spectre]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		This wouldn't be the first time the MTMTE books don't agree with something else. Take a look at A-Thundercracker. As Camshaft has the same function as his original toy (and that's ALL the original toy had) and he hangs around a group of Autobots who, for all intents and purposes are the original guys, and I'd say that this Camshaft being a completely seperate character is just making things too difficult. --[[User:Spectre\|Spectre]]
			: Especially when, within the next few years, we'll undoubtedly get more Camshafts which are supposed to be the original guy, but with a version of this bio. Forest Lee probably didn't realize the MTMTE bio exists. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 18:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>