Talk:Celestial - Revision history

Derik at 02:32, 16 February 2011

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	::::::Do you wish to present a problem with the edit, or do you just want to take potshots at me? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:10, 15 February 2011 (EST)		::::::Do you wish to present a problem with the edit, or do you just want to take potshots at me? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:10, 15 February 2011 (EST)
	:::::::There is no "IDW retcon" in regard to BWII. The IDW chronology has some events similar to the JBW cartoons, but the cartoons themselves are not incorporated in the continuity. Nobody ever said that, nor is the published material (which amounts to... some crappy profiles and a few glossary entries) accurate to the cartoon. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 21:23, 15 February 2011 (EST)		:::::::There is no "IDW retcon" in regard to BWII. The IDW chronology has some events similar to the JBW cartoons, but the cartoons themselves are not incorporated in the continuity. Nobody ever said that, nor is the published material (which amounts to... some crappy profiles and a few glossary entries) accurate to the cartoon. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 21:23, 15 February 2011 (EST)
			::::::::Really? I thought it was another alternate take on the same core events of BW2, just like the manga and cartoon where, and establishing a name for an otherwise-unnamed continuity-spanning species or object would naturally carry over to the others.
			::::::::OTOH, it's been awhile since I read the BWTF guidebook, I defer to you on this matter.
			::::::::Thanks for taking the time to clarify things for me! -21:32, 15 February 2011 (EST)

Interrobang at 02:23, 16 February 2011

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	::::::In what ''way'' am I overreaching ''my'' boundaries here?		::::::In what ''way'' am I overreaching ''my'' boundaries here?
	::::::Do you wish to present a problem with the edit, or do you just want to take potshots at me? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:10, 15 February 2011 (EST)		::::::Do you wish to present a problem with the edit, or do you just want to take potshots at me? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:10, 15 February 2011 (EST)
			:::::::There is no "IDW retcon" in regard to BWII. The IDW chronology has some events similar to the JBW cartoons, but the cartoons themselves are not incorporated in the continuity. Nobody ever said that, nor is the published material (which amounts to... some crappy profiles and a few glossary entries) accurate to the cartoon. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 21:23, 15 February 2011 (EST)

Derik at 02:10, 16 February 2011

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	::::Cool! Did you hear that everybody? Interrobang volunteered to [http://www.emopanda.com/eps/bwii/Beast%20Wars%202%20-%2036%20Emissary%20of%20the%20Fourth%20Planet.avi tell us what the episode actually says]! You're a good man Interrobang, I don't care what anybody says! -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:17, 15 February 2011 (EST)		::::Cool! Did you hear that everybody? Interrobang volunteered to [http://www.emopanda.com/eps/bwii/Beast%20Wars%202%20-%2036%20Emissary%20of%20the%20Fourth%20Planet.avi tell us what the episode actually says]! You're a good man Interrobang, I don't care what anybody says! -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:17, 15 February 2011 (EST)
	:::::I can't understand spoken Japanese therefore you are right? [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 21:00, 15 February 2011 (EST)		:::::I can't understand spoken Japanese therefore you are right? [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 21:00, 15 February 2011 (EST)
			::::::Oh, I thought you could. Bummer.
			::::::Regardless, your 'tendency for making stuff up' comment is not conducive to open discussion of issues you may have with other user(s). I wanted to make a note about how the cartoon fit with the IDW retcon and presented my logic here to be checked by other users providing further information when McFeely expressed concern that the proposed text would overreach and present a false conclusion.
			::::::In what ''way'' am I overreaching ''my'' boundaries here?
			::::::Do you wish to present a problem with the edit, or do you just want to take potshots at me? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:10, 15 February 2011 (EST)

Interrobang at 02:00, 16 February 2011

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	:::I know you don't understand Japanese. I'm aware that making up bullshit from nothing is your tendency, but you are seriously overreaching your boundaries here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 19:34, 15 February 2011 (EST)		:::I know you don't understand Japanese. I'm aware that making up bullshit from nothing is your tendency, but you are seriously overreaching your boundaries here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 19:34, 15 February 2011 (EST)
	::::Cool! Did you hear that everybody? Interrobang volunteered to [http://www.emopanda.com/eps/bwii/Beast%20Wars%202%20-%2036%20Emissary%20of%20the%20Fourth%20Planet.avi tell us what the episode actually says]! You're a good man Interrobang, I don't care what anybody says! -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:17, 15 February 2011 (EST)		::::Cool! Did you hear that everybody? Interrobang volunteered to [http://www.emopanda.com/eps/bwii/Beast%20Wars%202%20-%2036%20Emissary%20of%20the%20Fourth%20Planet.avi tell us what the episode actually says]! You're a good man Interrobang, I don't care what anybody says! -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:17, 15 February 2011 (EST)
			:::::I can't understand spoken Japanese therefore you are right? [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 21:00, 15 February 2011 (EST)

Derik: Interrobang is a good man.

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Interrobang is a good man.

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	::Does this information address your concerns-''mu''? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 17:22, 15 February 2011 (EST)		::Does this information address your concerns-''mu''? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 17:22, 15 February 2011 (EST)
	:::I know you don't understand Japanese. I'm aware that making up bullshit from nothing is your tendency, but you are seriously overreaching your boundaries here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 19:34, 15 February 2011 (EST)		:::I know you don't understand Japanese. I'm aware that making up bullshit from nothing is your tendency, but you are seriously overreaching your boundaries here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 19:34, 15 February 2011 (EST)
			::::Cool! Did you hear that everybody? Interrobang volunteered to [http://www.emopanda.com/eps/bwii/Beast%20Wars%202%20-%2036%20Emissary%20of%20the%20Fourth%20Planet.avi tell us what the episode actually says]! You're a good man Interrobang, I don't care what anybody says! -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:17, 15 February 2011 (EST)

Interrobang at 00:34, 16 February 2011

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	::(IMO, the series was playing them like spirits or Angels. "Another plane of existence" might be the best bet; it meshes well w/ the Celestial name and 'excommunicate' without actually committing to anything.)		::(IMO, the series was playing them like spirits or Angels. "Another plane of existence" might be the best bet; it meshes well w/ the Celestial name and 'excommunicate' without actually committing to anything.)
	::Does this information address your concerns-''mu''? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 17:22, 15 February 2011 (EST)		::Does this information address your concerns-''mu''? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 17:22, 15 February 2011 (EST)
			:::I know you don't understand Japanese. I'm aware that making up bullshit from nothing is your tendency, but you are seriously overreaching your boundaries here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 19:34, 15 February 2011 (EST)

Derik at 22:22, 15 February 2011

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	Since Moon's BW Sourcebook entry has him as a non-dimensionally-displaced robot, I posit that 'excommunicate' must mean "kicked him out of their dimension/down to the mortal plane." This seems a straightforward reading, so unless someone objects in a bit I'm going to edit the article to reflect the idea. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:56, 15 February 2011 (EST)		Since Moon's BW Sourcebook entry has him as a non-dimensionally-displaced robot, I posit that 'excommunicate' must mean "kicked him out of their dimension/down to the mortal plane." This seems a straightforward reading, so unless someone objects in a bit I'm going to edit the article to reflect the idea. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:56, 15 February 2011 (EST)
	:I fear your use of "or something" in this description gives me pause. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 17:08, 15 February 2011 (EST)		:I fear your use of "or something" in this description gives me pause. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 17:08, 15 February 2011 (EST)

			::When Moon went down to Gaea to warn the Maximals, he was shown as [http://i55.tinypic.com/ir6hbp.png a see-through figure] which no one could see. He finally suceeded in catching LioJuniour's attention-- though at first LJ wasn't sure he'd actually seen him-- like a ghost he had to ''pay attention'' to in order to bring into his conscious awareness.
			::Additionally Moon was affected by the environment around him (thrown around when a stray shot exploded the landscape, etc) which is more akin to how (I gather) someone would react if they'd been ''temporally'' displaced as in BW: The Gathering. Thus my 'dimensionally displaced... or something' comment. In the article itself I would probably simply say 'another plane which is imperceptible to...'
			::(IMO, the series was playing them like spirits or Angels. "Another plane of existence" might be the best bet; it meshes well w/ the Celestial name and 'excommunicate' without actually committing to anything.)
			::Does this information address your concerns-''mu''? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 17:22, 15 February 2011 (EST)

Chris McFeely at 22:08, 15 February 2011

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	Since Moon's BW Sourcebook entry has him as a non-dimensionally-displaced robot, I posit that 'excommunicate' must mean "kicked him out of their dimension/down to the mortal plane." This seems a straightforward reading, so unless someone objects in a bit I'm going to edit the article to reflect the idea. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:56, 15 February 2011 (EST)		Since Moon's BW Sourcebook entry has him as a non-dimensionally-displaced robot, I posit that 'excommunicate' must mean "kicked him out of their dimension/down to the mortal plane." This seems a straightforward reading, so unless someone objects in a bit I'm going to edit the article to reflect the idea. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:56, 15 February 2011 (EST)
			:I fear your use of "or something" in this description gives me pause. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 17:08, 15 February 2011 (EST)

Derik: New page: The final few episodes of the anime establish that Artemis and Moon are dimensionally displaced (or something) and appear only as ghostly images that rarefied souls like LioJunior and LioC...

2011-02-15T21:56:48Z

New page: The final few episodes of the anime establish that Artemis and Moon are dimensionally displaced (or something) and appear only as ghostly images that rarefied souls like LioJunior and LioC...

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The final few episodes of the anime establish that Artemis and Moon are dimensionally displaced (or something) and appear only as ghostly images that rarefied souls like LioJunior and LioConvoy can see.

Since Moon's BW Sourcebook entry has him as a non-dimensionally-displaced robot, I posit that 'excommunicate' must mean "kicked him out of their dimension/down to the mortal plane." This seems a straightforward reading, so unless someone objects in a bit I'm going to edit the article to reflect the idea. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:56, 15 February 2011 (EST)

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	:::I know you don't understand Japanese. I'm aware that making up bullshit from nothing is your tendency, but you are seriously overreaching your boundaries here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 19:34, 15 February 2011 (EST)		:::I know you don't understand Japanese. I'm aware that making up bullshit from nothing is your tendency, but you are seriously overreaching your boundaries here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 19:34, 15 February 2011 (EST)
	::::Cool! Did you hear that everybody? Interrobang volunteered to [http://www.emopanda.com/eps/bwii/Beast%20Wars%202%20-%2036%20Emissary%20of%20the%20Fourth%20Planet.avi tell us what the episode actually says]! You're a good man Interrobang, I don't care what anybody says! -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:17, 15 February 2011 (EST)		::::Cool! Did you hear that everybody? Interrobang volunteered to [http://www.emopanda.com/eps/bwii/Beast%20Wars%202%20-%2036%20Emissary%20of%20the%20Fourth%20Planet.avi tell us what the episode actually says]! You're a good man Interrobang, I don't care what anybody says! -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:17, 15 February 2011 (EST)
			:::::I can't understand spoken Japanese therefore you are right? [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 21:00, 15 February 2011 (EST)

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	::Does this information address your concerns-''mu''? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 17:22, 15 February 2011 (EST)		::Does this information address your concerns-''mu''? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 17:22, 15 February 2011 (EST)
	:::I know you don't understand Japanese. I'm aware that making up bullshit from nothing is your tendency, but you are seriously overreaching your boundaries here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 19:34, 15 February 2011 (EST)		:::I know you don't understand Japanese. I'm aware that making up bullshit from nothing is your tendency, but you are seriously overreaching your boundaries here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 19:34, 15 February 2011 (EST)
			::::Cool! Did you hear that everybody? Interrobang volunteered to [http://www.emopanda.com/eps/bwii/Beast%20Wars%202%20-%2036%20Emissary%20of%20the%20Fourth%20Planet.avi tell us what the episode actually says]! You're a good man Interrobang, I don't care what anybody says! -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:17, 15 February 2011 (EST)