Talk:Cosmo and Wanda - Revision history

https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ACosmo_and_Wanda Talk:Cosmo and Wanda - Revision history 2026-08-02T10:07:22Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cosmo_and_Wanda&diff=1655543&oldid=prev Dark T Zeratul at 23:11, 8 December 2022 2022-12-08T23:11:32Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:11, 8 December 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Not only does Nickelodeon have the official license to Transformers tho, but these are also official ads for ''EarthSpark''.--[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 20:26, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Not only does Nickelodeon have the official license to Transformers tho, but these are also official ads for ''EarthSpark''.--[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 20:26, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::: Nickelodeon being liscenced to make a specific series doesn’t automatically mean these images are official Transformers media. [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 20:33, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::: Nickelodeon being liscenced to make a specific series doesn’t automatically mean these images are official Transformers media. [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 20:33, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::::I asked pretty much this same question at [[Talk:Kenny McCormick]], a page that was made solely on the basis that a commercial for Paramount+ included both Transformers and South Park. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 18:11, 8 December 2022 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I mean, a major question that needs to be asked is "what purpose does having a bunch of individual articles for a dozen gray-area Instagram doodles of not-Transformers characters serve?", especially as they're shitting these out at a distressing rate. It's not like any of these pages will be informative; they'll just be "this Instagram doodle was posted". It's not like anyone's going to LOOK for them. It's not like any Hasbro licensee can DO anything with them in any way that would necessitate expanding the article in the future. And in the absence of genuine usefulness... they're not ''funny'' either, especially the more they do it. Roll 'em up into a subsection on the Nickelodeon page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 02:17, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I mean, a major question that needs to be asked is "what purpose does having a bunch of individual articles for a dozen gray-area Instagram doodles of not-Transformers characters serve?", especially as they're shitting these out at a distressing rate. It's not like any of these pages will be informative; they'll just be "this Instagram doodle was posted". It's not like anyone's going to LOOK for them. It's not like any Hasbro licensee can DO anything with them in any way that would necessitate expanding the article in the future. And in the absence of genuine usefulness... they're not ''funny'' either, especially the more they do it. Roll 'em up into a subsection on the Nickelodeon page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 02:17, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I’m in full agreement. These are only peripherally related at best. We can link to them or make them a gallery on the Nickelodeon page, but they don’t need to be split into individual character pages for each one. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 03:30, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I’m in full agreement. These are only peripherally related at best. We can link to them or make them a gallery on the Nickelodeon page, but they don’t need to be split into individual character pages for each one. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 03:30, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> </table>

Dark T Zeratul https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cosmo_and_Wanda&diff=1655433&oldid=prev Cyberlink420 at 14:49, 8 December 2022 2022-12-08T14:49:42Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:49, 8 December 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As far as I can tell, there’s no indication of copyright on any of these images for Hasbro, which suggests to me that Hasbro has no involvement whatsoever in these, which I think is a major point against having them. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 07:19, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As far as I can tell, there’s no indication of copyright on any of these images for Hasbro, which suggests to me that Hasbro has no involvement whatsoever in these, which I think is a major point against having them. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 07:19, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I think the [[Nickelodeon#Social_media_posts|gallery]] Gherkin just made is perfect and should be the extent of our coverage. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 09:49, 8 December 2022 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Cyberlink420 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cosmo_and_Wanda&diff=1655409&oldid=prev Escargon at 12:19, 8 December 2022 2022-12-08T12:19:05Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 12:19, 8 December 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l12">Line 12:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 12:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I’m in full agreement. These are only peripherally related at best. We can link to them or make them a gallery on the Nickelodeon page, but they don’t need to be split into individual character pages for each one. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 03:30, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I’m in full agreement. These are only peripherally related at best. We can link to them or make them a gallery on the Nickelodeon page, but they don’t need to be split into individual character pages for each one. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 03:30, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::At the very least tho, [[Raphael (TMNT)|Raphael]]'s page should stay because he had an appearance outside of these social media posts.--[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 05:55, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::At the very least tho, [[Raphael (TMNT)|Raphael]]'s page should stay because he had an appearance outside of these social media posts.--[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 05:55, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">As far as I can tell, there’s no indication of copyright on any of these images for Hasbro, which suggests to me that Hasbro has no involvement whatsoever in these, which I think is a major point against having them. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 07:19, 8 December 2022 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Escargon https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cosmo_and_Wanda&diff=1655388&oldid=prev GobotsFanForever at 10:55, 8 December 2022 2022-12-08T10:55:37Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:55, 8 December 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l11">Line 11:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I mean, a major question that needs to be asked is "what purpose does having a bunch of individual articles for a dozen gray-area Instagram doodles of not-Transformers characters serve?", especially as they're shitting these out at a distressing rate. It's not like any of these pages will be informative; they'll just be "this Instagram doodle was posted". It's not like anyone's going to LOOK for them. It's not like any Hasbro licensee can DO anything with them in any way that would necessitate expanding the article in the future. And in the absence of genuine usefulness... they're not ''funny'' either, especially the more they do it. Roll 'em up into a subsection on the Nickelodeon page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 02:17, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I mean, a major question that needs to be asked is "what purpose does having a bunch of individual articles for a dozen gray-area Instagram doodles of not-Transformers characters serve?", especially as they're shitting these out at a distressing rate. It's not like any of these pages will be informative; they'll just be "this Instagram doodle was posted". It's not like anyone's going to LOOK for them. It's not like any Hasbro licensee can DO anything with them in any way that would necessitate expanding the article in the future. And in the absence of genuine usefulness... they're not ''funny'' either, especially the more they do it. Roll 'em up into a subsection on the Nickelodeon page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 02:17, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I’m in full agreement. These are only peripherally related at best. We can link to them or make them a gallery on the Nickelodeon page, but they don’t need to be split into individual character pages for each one. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 03:30, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I’m in full agreement. These are only peripherally related at best. We can link to them or make them a gallery on the Nickelodeon page, but they don’t need to be split into individual character pages for each one. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 03:30, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::At the very least tho, [[Raphael (TMNT)|Raphael]]'s page should stay because he had an appearance outside of these social media posts.--[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 05:55, 8 December 2022 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

GobotsFanForever https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cosmo_and_Wanda&diff=1655379&oldid=prev Cyberlink420 at 08:30, 8 December 2022 2022-12-08T08:30:39Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:30, 8 December 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l10">Line 10:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 10:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I mean, a major question that needs to be asked is "what purpose does having a bunch of individual articles for a dozen gray-area Instagram doodles of not-Transformers characters serve?", especially as they're shitting these out at a distressing rate. It's not like any of these pages will be informative; they'll just be "this Instagram doodle was posted". It's not like anyone's going to LOOK for them. It's not like any Hasbro licensee can DO anything with them in any way that would necessitate expanding the article in the future. And in the absence of genuine usefulness... they're not ''funny'' either, especially the more they do it. Roll 'em up into a subsection on the Nickelodeon page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 02:17, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I mean, a major question that needs to be asked is "what purpose does having a bunch of individual articles for a dozen gray-area Instagram doodles of not-Transformers characters serve?", especially as they're shitting these out at a distressing rate. It's not like any of these pages will be informative; they'll just be "this Instagram doodle was posted". It's not like anyone's going to LOOK for them. It's not like any Hasbro licensee can DO anything with them in any way that would necessitate expanding the article in the future. And in the absence of genuine usefulness... they're not ''funny'' either, especially the more they do it. Roll 'em up into a subsection on the Nickelodeon page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 02:17, 8 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:I’m in full agreement. These are only peripherally related at best. We can link to them or make them a gallery on the Nickelodeon page, but they don’t need to be split into individual character pages for each one. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 03:30, 8 December 2022 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Cyberlink420 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cosmo_and_Wanda&diff=1655374&oldid=prev M Sipher at 07:17, 8 December 2022 2022-12-08T07:17:24Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 07:17, 8 December 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Not only does Nickelodeon have the official license to Transformers tho, but these are also official ads for ''EarthSpark''.--[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 20:26, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Not only does Nickelodeon have the official license to Transformers tho, but these are also official ads for ''EarthSpark''.--[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 20:26, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::: Nickelodeon being liscenced to make a specific series doesn’t automatically mean these images are official Transformers media. [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 20:33, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::: Nickelodeon being liscenced to make a specific series doesn’t automatically mean these images are official Transformers media. [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 20:33, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I mean, a major question that needs to be asked is "what purpose does having a bunch of individual articles for a dozen gray-area Instagram doodles of not-Transformers characters serve?", especially as they're shitting these out at a distressing rate. It's not like any of these pages will be informative; they'll just be "this Instagram doodle was posted". It's not like anyone's going to LOOK for them. It's not like any Hasbro licensee can DO anything with them in any way that would necessitate expanding the article in the future. And in the absence of genuine usefulness... they're not ''funny'' either, especially the more they do it. Roll 'em up into a subsection on the Nickelodeon page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 02:17, 8 December 2022 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

M Sipher https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cosmo_and_Wanda&diff=1655336&oldid=prev Indridcold13 at 01:34, 8 December 2022 2022-12-08T01:34:27Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:34, 8 December 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l7">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Right. I feel like this is something that should be -at most- rolled up into the Nickelodeon page, but is not something that should be divvied out into a bunch of individual pages. It's ''riiiiight'' up against the border of "Robot Chicken did a skit about Transformers and we don't cover that no matter how many voice actors from TF they hired". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:23, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Right. I feel like this is something that should be -at most- rolled up into the Nickelodeon page, but is not something that should be divvied out into a bunch of individual pages. It's ''riiiiight'' up against the border of "Robot Chicken did a skit about Transformers and we don't cover that no matter how many voice actors from TF they hired". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:23, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Not only does Nickelodeon have the official license to Transformers tho, but these are also official ads for ''EarthSpark''.--[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 20:26, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Not only does Nickelodeon have the official license to Transformers tho, but these are also official ads for ''EarthSpark''.--[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 20:26, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">EST)</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::: Nickelodeon being liscenced to make a specific series doesn’t automatically mean these images are official Transformers media. [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 20:33, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::: Nickelodeon being liscenced to make a specific series doesn’t automatically mean these images are official Transformers media. [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 20:33, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> </table>

Indridcold13 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cosmo_and_Wanda&diff=1655335&oldid=prev Indridcold13 at 01:33, 8 December 2022 2022-12-08T01:33:59Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:33, 8 December 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l7">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Right. I feel like this is something that should be -at most- rolled up into the Nickelodeon page, but is not something that should be divvied out into a bunch of individual pages. It's ''riiiiight'' up against the border of "Robot Chicken did a skit about Transformers and we don't cover that no matter how many voice actors from TF they hired". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:23, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Right. I feel like this is something that should be -at most- rolled up into the Nickelodeon page, but is not something that should be divvied out into a bunch of individual pages. It's ''riiiiight'' up against the border of "Robot Chicken did a skit about Transformers and we don't cover that no matter how many voice actors from TF they hired". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:23, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Not only does Nickelodeon have the official license to Transformers tho, but these are also official ads for ''EarthSpark''.--[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 20:26, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Not only does Nickelodeon have the official license to Transformers tho, but these are also official ads for ''EarthSpark''.--[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 20:26, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">EST)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::: Nickelodeon being liscenced to make a specific series doesn’t automatically mean these images are official Transformers media. [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 20:33, 7 December 2022 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Indridcold13 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cosmo_and_Wanda&diff=1655334&oldid=prev GobotsFanForever at 01:26, 8 December 2022 2022-12-08T01:26:28Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:26, 8 December 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l6">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::: Beyond this, I think we need to lay down some concrete guidelines dealing with these kinds of commercial-exclusive crossovers, because I feel like we're already starting to bump against the limits of "notability". Like, The Hub did a promo where the ''Fraggle Rock'' characters talked about the Transformers, does that mean they should get a page? There's that one commercial where Bumblebee goes to Walmart with Lightning McQueen and Cinderella, do they get pages now? At ''most'', I think these kinds of outside-Hasbro licensee things need to be restricted to a note in the relevant character sections, or, in the case of these Nick crossover things, a brief overview in the notes of the actual Nickelodeon page. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 20:14, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::: Beyond this, I think we need to lay down some concrete guidelines dealing with these kinds of commercial-exclusive crossovers, because I feel like we're already starting to bump against the limits of "notability". Like, The Hub did a promo where the ''Fraggle Rock'' characters talked about the Transformers, does that mean they should get a page? There's that one commercial where Bumblebee goes to Walmart with Lightning McQueen and Cinderella, do they get pages now? At ''most'', I think these kinds of outside-Hasbro licensee things need to be restricted to a note in the relevant character sections, or, in the case of these Nick crossover things, a brief overview in the notes of the actual Nickelodeon page. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 20:14, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Right. I feel like this is something that should be -at most- rolled up into the Nickelodeon page, but is not something that should be divvied out into a bunch of individual pages. It's ''riiiiight'' up against the border of "Robot Chicken did a skit about Transformers and we don't cover that no matter how many voice actors from TF they hired". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:23, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Right. I feel like this is something that should be -at most- rolled up into the Nickelodeon page, but is not something that should be divvied out into a bunch of individual pages. It's ''riiiiight'' up against the border of "Robot Chicken did a skit about Transformers and we don't cover that no matter how many voice actors from TF they hired". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:23, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::Not only does Nickelodeon have the official license to Transformers tho, but these are also official ads for ''EarthSpark''.--[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 20:26, 7 December 2022 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

GobotsFanForever https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cosmo_and_Wanda&diff=1655332&oldid=prev M Sipher at 01:23, 8 December 2022 2022-12-08T01:23:02Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:23, 8 December 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::: I think the important thing to remember here is "official ''Nickelodeon'' ad". As far as we can tell the Transformers brand itself wasn't involved in this art at all; it's not showing up on any Transformers-related social media pages, or anything officially connected to the Transformers brand. Even stuff like the Lizard was a physical product advertised as "featuring Transformers technology" which at least indicates that there was at least a negligible level of involvement from the Transformers team somewhere along the line. It's also probably noteworthy that, from what I can tell, none of the social media captions actually ''use'' the phrase "Transformer" to describe the characters other than in the context of advertising the Earthspark show, which suggests that people involved in this were writing around trademarks. As a result, the immediate jump to making wiki pages for these characters seems, at least to me, like a scenario where Cartoon Network's Twitter page retweeted something like Derrick Wyatt's Ben 10 fanart and we made an article for it—even though Hasbro doesn't seem to have signed off on any part of the project. Obviously, these kinds of scenarios will ''always'' be grey areas, but in this case I think the apparent lack of Hasbro involvement suggests that this is a case where we err on the side of caution. </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::: I think the important thing to remember here is "official ''Nickelodeon'' ad". As far as we can tell the Transformers brand itself wasn't involved in this art at all; it's not showing up on any Transformers-related social media pages, or anything officially connected to the Transformers brand. Even stuff like the Lizard was a physical product advertised as "featuring Transformers technology" which at least indicates that there was at least a negligible level of involvement from the Transformers team somewhere along the line. It's also probably noteworthy that, from what I can tell, none of the social media captions actually ''use'' the phrase "Transformer" to describe the characters other than in the context of advertising the Earthspark show, which suggests that people involved in this were writing around trademarks. As a result, the immediate jump to making wiki pages for these characters seems, at least to me, like a scenario where Cartoon Network's Twitter page retweeted something like Derrick Wyatt's Ben 10 fanart and we made an article for it—even though Hasbro doesn't seem to have signed off on any part of the project. Obviously, these kinds of scenarios will ''always'' be grey areas, but in this case I think the apparent lack of Hasbro involvement suggests that this is a case where we err on the side of caution. </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::: Beyond this, I think we need to lay down some concrete guidelines dealing with these kinds of commercial-exclusive crossovers, because I feel like we're already starting to bump against the limits of "notability". Like, The Hub did a promo where the ''Fraggle Rock'' characters talked about the Transformers, does that mean they should get a page? There's that one commercial where Bumblebee goes to Walmart with Lightning McQueen and Cinderella, do they get pages now? At ''most'', I think these kinds of outside-Hasbro licensee things need to be restricted to a note in the relevant character sections, or, in the case of these Nick crossover things, a brief overview in the notes of the actual Nickelodeon page. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 20:14, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::: Beyond this, I think we need to lay down some concrete guidelines dealing with these kinds of commercial-exclusive crossovers, because I feel like we're already starting to bump against the limits of "notability". Like, The Hub did a promo where the ''Fraggle Rock'' characters talked about the Transformers, does that mean they should get a page? There's that one commercial where Bumblebee goes to Walmart with Lightning McQueen and Cinderella, do they get pages now? At ''most'', I think these kinds of outside-Hasbro licensee things need to be restricted to a note in the relevant character sections, or, in the case of these Nick crossover things, a brief overview in the notes of the actual Nickelodeon page. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 20:14, 7 December 2022 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::Right. I feel like this is something that should be -at most- rolled up into the Nickelodeon page, but is not something that should be divvied out into a bunch of individual pages. It's ''riiiiight'' up against the border of "Robot Chicken did a skit about Transformers and we don't cover that no matter how many voice actors from TF they hired". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:23, 7 December 2022 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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