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Saix: /* Hammerstrike status */

2017-01-05T15:11:14Z

Hammerstrike status

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	:Yeah, I agree. Back when neither of them had ever appeared in a fiction, it was ambiguous enough. Now that they've both appeared separately in Uprising and other places without drawing a connection, it's more like [[Slag (G1)]] / [[Charger]] or [[Manterror]] / [[Buzzclaw (BW)]]: worth noting, but we can't assume it's true anymore. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 10:09, 5 January 2017 (EST)		:Yeah, I agree. Back when neither of them had ever appeared in a fiction, it was ambiguous enough. Now that they've both appeared separately in Uprising and other places without drawing a connection, it's more like [[Slag (G1)]] / [[Charger]] or [[Manterror]] / [[Buzzclaw (BW)]]: worth noting, but we can't assume it's true anymore. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 10:09, 5 January 2017 (EST)
	::Agreed. ~~/it~~'s basically Grimlock and T-Wrecks as well. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 10:11, 5 January 2017 (EST)		::Agreed. It's basically Grimlock and T-Wrecks as well. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 10:11, 5 January 2017 (EST)

Saix: /* Hammerstrike status */

2017-01-05T15:11:05Z

Hammerstrike status

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	:Yeah, I agree. Back when neither of them had ever appeared in a fiction, it was ambiguous enough. Now that they've both appeared separately in Uprising and other places without drawing a connection, it's more like [[Slag (G1)]] / [[Charger]] or [[Manterror]] / [[Buzzclaw (BW)]]: worth noting, but we can't assume it's true anymore. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 10:09, 5 January 2017 (EST)		:Yeah, I agree. Back when neither of them had ever appeared in a fiction, it was ambiguous enough. Now that they've both appeared separately in Uprising and other places without drawing a connection, it's more like [[Slag (G1)]] / [[Charger]] or [[Manterror]] / [[Buzzclaw (BW)]]: worth noting, but we can't assume it's true anymore. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 10:09, 5 January 2017 (EST)
			::Agreed. /it's basically Grimlock and T-Wrecks as well. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 10:11, 5 January 2017 (EST)

Xaaron: /* Hammerstrike status */

2017-01-05T15:09:58Z

Hammerstrike status

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	I get that Cybershark and Hammerstrike's toy bios are similar, but without any official word ain't it fanon for the Hammerstrike toy to remain on this page? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 19:51, 27 November 2016 (EST)		I get that Cybershark and Hammerstrike's toy bios are similar, but without any official word ain't it fanon for the Hammerstrike toy to remain on this page? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 19:51, 27 November 2016 (EST)

			:Yeah, I agree. Back when neither of them had ever appeared in a fiction, it was ambiguous enough. Now that they've both appeared separately in Uprising and other places without drawing a connection, it's more like [[Slag (G1)]] / [[Charger]] or [[Manterror]] / [[Buzzclaw (BW)]]: worth noting, but we can't assume it's true anymore. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 10:09, 5 January 2017 (EST)

S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47: /* Hammerstrike status */ new section

2016-11-28T00:51:09Z

Hammerstrike status: new section

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	Can we please use they & them instead of he/she and him/her? It's too close to disrespectful referencing of trans people, and I already find this plot's subject matter annoying. [[User:Antimatter\|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter\|talk]]) 03:06, 22 October 2015 (EDT)		Can we please use they & them instead of he/she and him/her? It's too close to disrespectful referencing of trans people, and I already find this plot's subject matter annoying. [[User:Antimatter\|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter\|talk]]) 03:06, 22 October 2015 (EDT)
	:In story itself, Hammerstrike states that he identifies as female once in the TransTech chassis. If anything, a better reflection of the story content would be to refer to the character as "he" before the transfer and "she" after the transfer. Unless further material elaborates on the situation, it seems that Hammerstrike identifies with whatever gender of the chassis the spark itself inhabits. ("I think I'm female now" as opposed to "I think I"m also female now," or something along that.) If further information or story material elaborates further on this, we'll deal with it then. --[[User:Ascendron\|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron\|talk]]) 04:20, 22 October 2015 (EDT)		:In story itself, Hammerstrike states that he identifies as female once in the TransTech chassis. If anything, a better reflection of the story content would be to refer to the character as "he" before the transfer and "she" after the transfer. Unless further material elaborates on the situation, it seems that Hammerstrike identifies with whatever gender of the chassis the spark itself inhabits. ("I think I'm female now" as opposed to "I think I"m also female now," or something along that.) If further information or story material elaborates further on this, we'll deal with it then. --[[User:Ascendron\|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron\|talk]]) 04:20, 22 October 2015 (EDT)

			== Hammerstrike status ==

			I get that Cybershark and Hammerstrike's toy bios are similar, but without any official word ain't it fanon for the Hammerstrike toy to remain on this page? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 19:51, 27 November 2016 (EST)

Ascendron: /* Pronouns */

2015-10-22T08:24:11Z

Pronouns

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	==Pronouns==		==Pronouns==
	Can we please use they & them instead of he/she and him/her? It's too close to disrespectful referencing of trans people, and I already find this plot's subject matter annoying. [[User:Antimatter\|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter\|talk]]) 03:06, 22 October 2015 (EDT)		Can we please use they & them instead of he/she and him/her? It's too close to disrespectful referencing of trans people, and I already find this plot's subject matter annoying. [[User:Antimatter\|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter\|talk]]) 03:06, 22 October 2015 (EDT)
	:In story itself, Hammerstrike states that he identifies as female once in the TransTech chassis. If anything, a better reflection of the story content would be to refer to the character as "he" before the transfer and "she" after the transfer. Unless further material elaborates on the situation, it seems that Hammerstrike identifies with whatever gender of the chassis the spark itself inhabits. --[[User:Ascendron\|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron\|talk]]) 04:20, 22 October 2015 (EDT)		:In story itself, Hammerstrike states that he identifies as female once in the TransTech chassis. If anything, a better reflection of the story content would be to refer to the character as "he" before the transfer and "she" after the transfer. Unless further material elaborates on the situation, it seems that Hammerstrike identifies with whatever gender of the chassis the spark itself inhabits. ("I think I'm female now" as opposed to "I think I"m also female now," or something along that.) If further information or story material elaborates further on this, we'll deal with it then. --[[User:Ascendron\|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron\|talk]]) 04:20, 22 October 2015 (EDT)

Ascendron: /* Pronouns */

2015-10-22T08:20:01Z

Pronouns

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	Can we please use they & them instead of he/she and him/her? It's too close to disrespectful referencing of trans people, and I already find this plot's subject matter annoying. [[User:Antimatter\|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter\|talk]]) 03:06, 22 October 2015 (EDT)		Can we please use they & them instead of he/she and him/her? It's too close to disrespectful referencing of trans people, and I already find this plot's subject matter annoying. [[User:Antimatter\|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter\|talk]]) 03:06, 22 October 2015 (EDT)
			:In story itself, Hammerstrike states that he identifies as female once in the TransTech chassis. If anything, a better reflection of the story content would be to refer to the character as "he" before the transfer and "she" after the transfer. Unless further material elaborates on the situation, it seems that Hammerstrike identifies with whatever gender of the chassis the spark itself inhabits. --[[User:Ascendron\|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron\|talk]]) 04:20, 22 October 2015 (EDT)

Antimatter at 07:06, 22 October 2015

2015-10-22T07:06:04Z

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	RE: Hammerstrike: Hear me out here, okay? Hasbro has a penchant to use bios, no? We have guys like Drench and Hydradread and Deluge and some random Stormtroopers have their bios and tech specs recycled for the G2 Color Changers, but we consider them separate guys. I mean, there's nothing to say that Cybershark and Hammerstrike are the same person, and really it sounds a wee bit too much like delving into fanwank here. Just because BW and BM Buzzsaw are meant to be the same guy, does that mean Cybershark and Hammerstrike are meant to be the same guys as well? Unless we're doing 'same bio = same guy', in which case the blatantly copied-and-pasted Stormtrooper/Color Changer guys should be merged into one page.		RE: Hammerstrike: Hear me out here, okay? Hasbro has a penchant to use bios, no? We have guys like Drench and Hydradread and Deluge and some random Stormtroopers have their bios and tech specs recycled for the G2 Color Changers, but we consider them separate guys. I mean, there's nothing to say that Cybershark and Hammerstrike are the same person, and really it sounds a wee bit too much like delving into fanwank here. Just because BW and BM Buzzsaw are meant to be the same guy, does that mean Cybershark and Hammerstrike are meant to be the same guys as well? Unless we're doing 'same bio = same guy', in which case the blatantly copied-and-pasted Stormtrooper/Color Changer guys should be merged into one page.

			==Pronouns==
			Can we please use they & them instead of he/she and him/her? It's too close to disrespectful referencing of trans people, and I already find this plot's subject matter annoying. [[User:Antimatter\|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter\|talk]]) 03:06, 22 October 2015 (EDT)

125.165.89.67 at 10:24, 11 November 2011

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	Imo, one of the strengths of wikipedia as a format is the ability to make those notes, since TF is fileld with lots of downright ODD and contradictory cross-connections. -[[User:150.253.70.55\|150.253.70.55]] 16:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)		Imo, one of the strengths of wikipedia as a format is the ability to make those notes, since TF is fileld with lots of downright ODD and contradictory cross-connections. -[[User:150.253.70.55\|150.253.70.55]] 16:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


			RE: Hammerstrike: Hear me out here, okay? Hasbro has a penchant to use bios, no? We have guys like Drench and Hydradread and Deluge and some random Stormtroopers have their bios and tech specs recycled for the G2 Color Changers, but we consider them separate guys. I mean, there's nothing to say that Cybershark and Hammerstrike are the same person, and really it sounds a wee bit too much like delving into fanwank here. Just because BW and BM Buzzsaw are meant to be the same guy, does that mean Cybershark and Hammerstrike are meant to be the same guys as well? Unless we're doing 'same bio = same guy', in which case the blatantly copied-and-pasted Stormtrooper/Color Changer guys should be merged into one page.

Deceptitran: /* Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 - */

2009-03-27T22:38:06Z

Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 -

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	:::i think we're using the standard- "What a reasonable person might think is presented with the evidence" on the Wiki. Thus- a reasonable person lookign at both specs side by site would probably conclude they're the same guy. For T-Wrecks though, it's more ambiguious, so it just gets an italicised note and redirects to T-Wrecks entry.		:::i think we're using the standard- "What a reasonable person might think is presented with the evidence" on the Wiki. Thus- a reasonable person lookign at both specs side by site would probably conclude they're the same guy. For T-Wrecks though, it's more ambiguious, so it just gets an italicised note and redirects to T-Wrecks entry.

	Imo, one of the strengths of wikipedia as a format is the ability to make those notes, since TF is fileld with lots of downright ODD and contradictory cross-connections. -[[User:150.253.70.55\|150.253.70.55]] 16:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		Imo, one of the strengths of wikipedia as a format is the ability to make those notes, since TF is fileld with lots of downright ODD and contradictory cross-connections. -[[User:150.253.70.55\|150.253.70.55]] 16:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Monzo: Talk:Cybershark (BW) moved to Talk:Cybershark

2006-07-03T08:14:17Z

Talk:Cybershark (BW) moved to Talk:Cybershark

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