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	I don't know a better place to ask this, so here goes: I keep seeing the word "Cybertronic" used all over the wiki to refer to toys' alternate modes (e.g. [[Sureshot (G1)#The Transformers\|Sureshot]] has a "Cybertronic buggy mode"), but as far as I can tell from a quick Ctrl+F search, the word "Cybertronic" is not used at all on this page. Thus, I'm unsure if it's an "accepted" alternative to "Cybertronian" or just a term we used to use that we don't anymore (since I've been seeing it a lot on G1 characters' toy writeups). Basically, what I'm asking is: am I okay to replace "Cybertronic" with "Cybertronian" whenever I see it, or does it not matter and I'm devoting too much energy to something that no one except me has noticed? [[User:ThatGuy79\|ThatGuy79]] ([[User talk:ThatGuy79\|talk]]) 18:40, 3 March 2025 (EST)		I don't know a better place to ask this, so here goes: I keep seeing the word "Cybertronic" used all over the wiki to refer to toys' alternate modes (e.g. [[Sureshot (G1)#The Transformers\|Sureshot]] has a "Cybertronic buggy mode"), but as far as I can tell from a quick Ctrl+F search, the word "Cybertronic" is not used at all on this page. Thus, I'm unsure if it's an "accepted" alternative to "Cybertronian" or just a term we used to use that we don't anymore (since I've been seeing it a lot on G1 characters' toy writeups). Basically, what I'm asking is: am I okay to replace "Cybertronic" with "Cybertronian" whenever I see it, or does it not matter and I'm devoting too much energy to something that no one except me has noticed? [[User:ThatGuy79\|ThatGuy79]] ([[User talk:ThatGuy79\|talk]]) 18:40, 3 March 2025 (EST)
	: Per [[Transformer]]'s opening, "Cybertronic" is an extant alternative, but you're right that it's been largely replaced with "Cybertronian". Personally, I'd just go with "futuristic" for most of those alt-modes. --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 19:17, 3 March 2025 (EST)		: Per [[Transformer]]'s opening, "Cybertronic" is an extant alternative, but you're right that it's been largely replaced with "Cybertronian". Personally, I'd just go with "futuristic" for most of those alt-modes. --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 19:17, 3 March 2025 (EST)
			::Takara's descriptions usually call them "SF vehicle", for what it's worth. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 19:24, 3 March 2025 (EST)

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	I don't know a better place to ask this, so here goes: I keep seeing the word "Cybertronic" used all over the wiki to refer to toys' alternate modes (e.g. [[Sureshot (G1)#The Transformers\|Sureshot]] has a "Cybertronic buggy mode"), but as far as I can tell from a quick Ctrl+F search, the word "Cybertronic" is not used at all on this page. Thus, I'm unsure if it's an "accepted" alternative to "Cybertronian" or just a term we used to use that we don't anymore (since I've been seeing it a lot on G1 characters' toy writeups). Basically, what I'm asking is: am I okay to replace "Cybertronic" with "Cybertronian" whenever I see it, or does it not matter and I'm devoting too much energy to something that no one except me has noticed? [[User:ThatGuy79\|ThatGuy79]] ([[User talk:ThatGuy79\|talk]]) 18:40, 3 March 2025 (EST)		I don't know a better place to ask this, so here goes: I keep seeing the word "Cybertronic" used all over the wiki to refer to toys' alternate modes (e.g. [[Sureshot (G1)#The Transformers\|Sureshot]] has a "Cybertronic buggy mode"), but as far as I can tell from a quick Ctrl+F search, the word "Cybertronic" is not used at all on this page. Thus, I'm unsure if it's an "accepted" alternative to "Cybertronian" or just a term we used to use that we don't anymore (since I've been seeing it a lot on G1 characters' toy writeups). Basically, what I'm asking is: am I okay to replace "Cybertronic" with "Cybertronian" whenever I see it, or does it not matter and I'm devoting too much energy to something that no one except me has noticed? [[User:ThatGuy79\|ThatGuy79]] ([[User talk:ThatGuy79\|talk]]) 18:40, 3 March 2025 (EST)
			: Per [[Transformer]]'s opening, "Cybertronic" is an extant alternative, but you're right that it's been largely replaced with "Cybertronian". Personally, I'd just go with "futuristic" for most of those alt-modes. --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 19:17, 3 March 2025 (EST)

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	:Which continuity are you talking about? --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 19:21, 10 December 2017 (EST)		:Which continuity are you talking about? --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 19:21, 10 December 2017 (EST)

			== Cybertronian or Cybertronic? ==

			I don't know a better place to ask this, so here goes: I keep seeing the word "Cybertronic" used all over the wiki to refer to toys' alternate modes (e.g. [[Sureshot (G1)#The Transformers\|Sureshot]] has a "Cybertronic buggy mode"), but as far as I can tell from a quick Ctrl+F search, the word "Cybertronic" is not used at all on this page. Thus, I'm unsure if it's an "accepted" alternative to "Cybertronian" or just a term we used to use that we don't anymore (since I've been seeing it a lot on G1 characters' toy writeups). Basically, what I'm asking is: am I okay to replace "Cybertronic" with "Cybertronian" whenever I see it, or does it not matter and I'm devoting too much energy to something that no one except me has noticed? [[User:ThatGuy79\|ThatGuy79]] ([[User talk:ThatGuy79\|talk]]) 18:40, 3 March 2025 (EST)

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	If セイバートロン isn't [[Japanese language\|romanized]] as 'Seibertron,' fine, but shouldn't the footnote at least include that even though "セイバートロン" and "サイバートロン" are both frequently r2omanized as 'Cybertron'—and thus 'Seibertron' isn't <u>correct</u> per-se... the '''are''' two are still spelled differently in Japan? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)		If セイバートロン isn't [[Japanese language\|romanized]] as 'Seibertron,' fine, but shouldn't the footnote at least include that even though "セイバートロン" and "サイバートロン" are both frequently r2omanized as 'Cybertron'—and thus 'Seibertron' isn't <u>correct</u> per-se... the '''are''' two are still spelled differently in Japan? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
	::I debated about how to handle that, because, strictly speaking, this is not a spelling issue but a ''pronunciation'' issue. Like "bass" (the guitar) and "bass" (the fish), they're words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently... uh, [[wikipedia:Heteronym(linguistics)\|heteronyms]]. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 00:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)		::I debated about how to handle that, because, strictly speaking, this is not a spelling issue but a ''pronunciation'' issue. Like "bass" (the guitar) and "bass" (the fish), they're words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently... uh, [[wikipedia:Heteronym(linguistics)\|heteronyms]]. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 00:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::I am sure セイバートロン couldn't be a pronunciation of ''Cybertron''<!-- Also, everyone knows Cybertron is the Japanese name of Autobot-->. It could be "Sabertron", "Seibatron", "Seibertron"... and others. ''[[~~Romanization~~\|Darn]]''. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 00:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)		:::I am sure セイバートロン couldn't be a pronunciation of ''Cybertron''<!-- Also, everyone knows Cybertron is the Japanese name of Autobot-->. It could be "Sabertron", "Seibatron", "Seibertron"... and others. ''[[Japanese language\|Darn]]''. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 00:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
	::::Well, that is the other issue at hand: we have that "セイバートロン" is written "Cybertron" in English from three different sources (Headmasters game, laserdisc, Galaxy Force packaging), so I don't think we can ignore that. I will say, though, that the issue of Japan writing things in English one way and having people pronounce them another way is not unique to this situation... it crops up in Capcom's Mega Man/Rockman enemies, for example. Despite his name being "Bomb Man" in written English, the katakana for the character's name reads "Bomber Man" (ボンバーマン); the same situation exists for "Centuar Man", whose name in katakana actually reads "Kentauros Man" (ケンタウロスマン). It's not an issue of not ''being able'' to derive "seibaatoron" from "Cybertron", as I see it. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)		::::Well, that is the other issue at hand: we have that "セイバートロン" is written "Cybertron" in English from three different sources (Headmasters game, laserdisc, Galaxy Force packaging), so I don't think we can ignore that. I will say, though, that the issue of Japan writing things in English one way and having people pronounce them another way is not unique to this situation... it crops up in Capcom's Mega Man/Rockman enemies, for example. Despite his name being "Bomb Man" in written English, the katakana for the character's name reads "Bomber Man" (ボンバーマン); the same situation exists for "Centuar Man", whose name in katakana actually reads "Kentauros Man" (ケンタウロスマン). It's not an issue of not ''being able'' to derive "seibaatoron" from "Cybertron", as I see it. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::::Talking about the laser disc, that reminds me something. The Planet Cybertron is called Cybertron(''Saibatoron'') instead of ''Seibatoron'' in the Japanese dub of 4th season. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 14:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)		:::::Talking about the laser disc, that reminds me something. The Planet Cybertron is called Cybertron(''Saibatoron'') instead of ''Seibatoron'' in the Japanese dub of 4th season. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 14:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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	If セイバートロン isn't [[~~Romanization~~\|romanized]] as 'Seibertron,' fine, but shouldn't the footnote at least include that even though "セイバートロン" and "サイバートロン" are both frequently r2omanized as 'Cybertron'—and thus 'Seibertron' isn't <u>correct</u> per-se... the '''are''' two are still spelled differently in Japan? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)		If セイバートロン isn't [[Japanese language\|romanized]] as 'Seibertron,' fine, but shouldn't the footnote at least include that even though "セイバートロン" and "サイバートロン" are both frequently r2omanized as 'Cybertron'—and thus 'Seibertron' isn't <u>correct</u> per-se... the '''are''' two are still spelled differently in Japan? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
	::I debated about how to handle that, because, strictly speaking, this is not a spelling issue but a ''pronunciation'' issue. Like "bass" (the guitar) and "bass" (the fish), they're words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently... uh, [[wikipedia:Heteronym(linguistics)\|heteronyms]]. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 00:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)		::I debated about how to handle that, because, strictly speaking, this is not a spelling issue but a ''pronunciation'' issue. Like "bass" (the guitar) and "bass" (the fish), they're words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently... uh, [[wikipedia:Heteronym(linguistics)\|heteronyms]]. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 00:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::I am sure セイバートロン couldn't be a pronunciation of ''Cybertron''<!-- Also, everyone knows Cybertron is the Japanese name of Autobot-->. It could be "Sabertron", "Seibatron", "Seibertron"... and others. ''[[Romanization\|Darn]]''. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 00:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)		:::I am sure セイバートロン couldn't be a pronunciation of ''Cybertron''<!-- Also, everyone knows Cybertron is the Japanese name of Autobot-->. It could be "Sabertron", "Seibatron", "Seibertron"... and others. ''[[Romanization\|Darn]]''. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 00:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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	== TLK Cybertron ==		== TLK Cybertron ==
	So, the ''Cybertron'' (franchise) Primus figure was redecoed into ''TLK'' "Cybertron", who appears to transform into the planet Cybertron. If a robot named [[Primus]] transforms into a [[Cybertron (planet)\|planet called Cybertron]] and a robot named [[Atlas]] transforms into a planet called [[Earth]], does this mean there needs to be a [[Cybertron (robot)]] page, separate from the planet page, since "Cybertron" is presented on the labeling of the box as the figure's/character's actual name, not just its alt mode? [[User:TGB\|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB\|talk]]) 10:31, 30 June 2017 (EDT)		So, the ''Cybertron'' (franchise) Primus figure was redecoed into ''TLK'' "Cybertron", who appears to transform into the planet Cybertron. If a robot named [[Primus]] transforms into a [[Cybertron (planet)\|planet called Cybertron]] and a robot named Atlas transforms into a planet called [[Earth]], does this mean there needs to be a [[Cybertron (robot)]] page, separate from the planet page, since "Cybertron" is presented on the labeling of the box as the figure's/character's actual name, not just its alt mode? [[User:TGB\|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB\|talk]]) 10:31, 30 June 2017 (EDT)
	:What? No. The figure is "Cybertron" no matter what mode its in. All this toy is saying is "Hey, the planet's actually alive with its own robot mode." The robot mode isn't a separate dude from the planet mode. Think of it like how, in "[[The Secret of Cybertron]]", the planet was to have had its own robot mode in that as well, which was even before the whole Primus thing came about. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 10:52, 30 June 2017 (EDT)		:What? No. The figure is "Cybertron" no matter what mode its in. All this toy is saying is "Hey, the planet's actually alive with its own robot mode." The robot mode isn't a separate dude from the planet mode. Think of it like how, in "[[The Secret of Cybertron]]", the planet was to have had its own robot mode in that as well, which was even before the whole Primus thing came about. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 10:52, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

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	2. Are there political parties on cybertron or is the council a single party of it's own?		2. Are there political parties on cybertron or is the council a single party of it's own?
	MaximalChill 0:02, 27 November 2017 (EST)		MaximalChill 0:02, 27 November 2017 (EST)
			:Which continuity are you talking about? --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 19:21, 10 December 2017 (EST)

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	I actually have several questions:		I actually have several questions:
	1~~. Was there a social hierarchy in which the rich had power in the government?~~		1. Who represented the decepticons in the government before the war?
	2. Who represented the decepticons in the government before the war?		2. Are there political parties on cybertron or is the council a single party of it's own?
	3. Are there political parties on cybertron or is the council a single party of it's own?		MaximalChill 0:02, 27 November 2017 (EST)
	~~4. Do the scholars have a role in government, much like Confucianists~~?
	MaximalChill 00:02, 27 November 2017 (EST)

MaximalChill: /* Cybertronian Politics and law */

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	:What? No. The figure is "Cybertron" no matter what mode its in. All this toy is saying is "Hey, the planet's actually alive with its own robot mode." The robot mode isn't a separate dude from the planet mode. Think of it like how, in "[[The Secret of Cybertron]]", the planet was to have had its own robot mode in that as well, which was even before the whole Primus thing came about. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 10:52, 30 June 2017 (EDT)		:What? No. The figure is "Cybertron" no matter what mode its in. All this toy is saying is "Hey, the planet's actually alive with its own robot mode." The robot mode isn't a separate dude from the planet mode. Think of it like how, in "[[The Secret of Cybertron]]", the planet was to have had its own robot mode in that as well, which was even before the whole Primus thing came about. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 10:52, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

	== Cybertronian Politics ~~and law~~ ==		== Cybertronian Politics in the Golden Age ==

	I actually have several questions:		I actually have several questions:
	1. Was there a social hierarchy in which the rich had power in the government?		1. Was there a social hierarchy in which the rich had power in the government?
	2. Who represented the decepticons in the government before the war?		2. Who represented the decepticons in the government before the war?
	3. ~~Do Cybertronians have lawyers~~ or is it ~~basically sharia law (which basically means swift punishment)~~?		3. Are there political parties on cybertron or is the council a single party of it's own?
	4. ~~Cybertronian traffic laws:~~ Do ~~they even exist~~?		4. Do the scholars have a role in government, much like Confucianists?
	MaximalChill 00:02, 27 November 2017 (EST)		MaximalChill 00:02, 27 November 2017 (EST)

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Cybertronian Politics and law

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	3. Do Cybertronians have lawyers or is it basically sharia law (which basically means swift punishment)?		3. Do Cybertronians have lawyers or is it basically sharia law (which basically means swift punishment)?
	4. Cybertronian traffic laws: Do they even exist?		4. Cybertronian traffic laws: Do they even exist?
	~~Chilly P~~ 00:00, 27 November 2017 (EST)		MaximalChill 00:02, 27 November 2017 (EST)

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	I don't know a better place to ask this, so here goes: I keep seeing the word "Cybertronic" used all over the wiki to refer to toys' alternate modes (e.g. [[Sureshot (G1)#The Transformers\|Sureshot]] has a "Cybertronic buggy mode"), but as far as I can tell from a quick Ctrl+F search, the word "Cybertronic" is not used at all on this page. Thus, I'm unsure if it's an "accepted" alternative to "Cybertronian" or just a term we used to use that we don't anymore (since I've been seeing it a lot on G1 characters' toy writeups). Basically, what I'm asking is: am I okay to replace "Cybertronic" with "Cybertronian" whenever I see it, or does it not matter and I'm devoting too much energy to something that no one except me has noticed? [[User:ThatGuy79\|ThatGuy79]] ([[User talk:ThatGuy79\|talk]]) 18:40, 3 March 2025 (EST)		I don't know a better place to ask this, so here goes: I keep seeing the word "Cybertronic" used all over the wiki to refer to toys' alternate modes (e.g. [[Sureshot (G1)#The Transformers\|Sureshot]] has a "Cybertronic buggy mode"), but as far as I can tell from a quick Ctrl+F search, the word "Cybertronic" is not used at all on this page. Thus, I'm unsure if it's an "accepted" alternative to "Cybertronian" or just a term we used to use that we don't anymore (since I've been seeing it a lot on G1 characters' toy writeups). Basically, what I'm asking is: am I okay to replace "Cybertronic" with "Cybertronian" whenever I see it, or does it not matter and I'm devoting too much energy to something that no one except me has noticed? [[User:ThatGuy79\|ThatGuy79]] ([[User talk:ThatGuy79\|talk]]) 18:40, 3 March 2025 (EST)
	: Per [[Transformer]]'s opening, "Cybertronic" is an extant alternative, but you're right that it's been largely replaced with "Cybertronian". Personally, I'd just go with "futuristic" for most of those alt-modes. --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 19:17, 3 March 2025 (EST)		: Per [[Transformer]]'s opening, "Cybertronic" is an extant alternative, but you're right that it's been largely replaced with "Cybertronian". Personally, I'd just go with "futuristic" for most of those alt-modes. --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 19:17, 3 March 2025 (EST)
			::Takara's descriptions usually call them "SF vehicle", for what it's worth. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 19:24, 3 March 2025 (EST)

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	If セイバートロン isn't [[Japanese language\|romanized]] as 'Seibertron,' fine, but shouldn't the footnote at least include that even though "セイバートロン" and "サイバートロン" are both frequently r2omanized as 'Cybertron'—and thus 'Seibertron' isn't <u>correct</u> per-se... the '''are''' two are still spelled differently in Japan? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)		If セイバートロン isn't [[Japanese language\|romanized]] as 'Seibertron,' fine, but shouldn't the footnote at least include that even though "セイバートロン" and "サイバートロン" are both frequently r2omanized as 'Cybertron'—and thus 'Seibertron' isn't <u>correct</u> per-se... the '''are''' two are still spelled differently in Japan? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
	::I debated about how to handle that, because, strictly speaking, this is not a spelling issue but a ''pronunciation'' issue. Like "bass" (the guitar) and "bass" (the fish), they're words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently... uh, [[wikipedia:Heteronym(linguistics)\|heteronyms]]. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 00:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)		::I debated about how to handle that, because, strictly speaking, this is not a spelling issue but a ''pronunciation'' issue. Like "bass" (the guitar) and "bass" (the fish), they're words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently... uh, [[wikipedia:Heteronym(linguistics)\|heteronyms]]. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 00:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::I am sure セイバートロン couldn't be a pronunciation of ''Cybertron''<!-- Also, everyone knows Cybertron is the Japanese name of Autobot-->. It could be "Sabertron", "Seibatron", "Seibertron"... and others. ''[[~~Romanization~~\|Darn]]''. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 00:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)		:::I am sure セイバートロン couldn't be a pronunciation of ''Cybertron''<!-- Also, everyone knows Cybertron is the Japanese name of Autobot-->. It could be "Sabertron", "Seibatron", "Seibertron"... and others. ''[[Japanese language\|Darn]]''. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 00:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
	::::Well, that is the other issue at hand: we have that "セイバートロン" is written "Cybertron" in English from three different sources (Headmasters game, laserdisc, Galaxy Force packaging), so I don't think we can ignore that. I will say, though, that the issue of Japan writing things in English one way and having people pronounce them another way is not unique to this situation... it crops up in Capcom's Mega Man/Rockman enemies, for example. Despite his name being "Bomb Man" in written English, the katakana for the character's name reads "Bomber Man" (ボンバーマン); the same situation exists for "Centuar Man", whose name in katakana actually reads "Kentauros Man" (ケンタウロスマン). It's not an issue of not ''being able'' to derive "seibaatoron" from "Cybertron", as I see it. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)		::::Well, that is the other issue at hand: we have that "セイバートロン" is written "Cybertron" in English from three different sources (Headmasters game, laserdisc, Galaxy Force packaging), so I don't think we can ignore that. I will say, though, that the issue of Japan writing things in English one way and having people pronounce them another way is not unique to this situation... it crops up in Capcom's Mega Man/Rockman enemies, for example. Despite his name being "Bomb Man" in written English, the katakana for the character's name reads "Bomber Man" (ボンバーマン); the same situation exists for "Centuar Man", whose name in katakana actually reads "Kentauros Man" (ケンタウロスマン). It's not an issue of not ''being able'' to derive "seibaatoron" from "Cybertron", as I see it. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::::Talking about the laser disc, that reminds me something. The Planet Cybertron is called Cybertron(''Saibatoron'') instead of ''Seibatoron'' in the Japanese dub of 4th season. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 14:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)		:::::Talking about the laser disc, that reminds me something. The Planet Cybertron is called Cybertron(''Saibatoron'') instead of ''Seibatoron'' in the Japanese dub of 4th season. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 14:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)