Talk:Decepticon - Revision history

Smasher at 21:47, 20 October 2019

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	It mirrors the beliefs which he preached in Exodus about the system of caste that oppressed people, and the fact that the High Council chose to see him as an enemy, an agitator and the original perpetrator of the terrorist attacks happening on Cybertron (which he was but kept secret).--[[User:SnipinScientist\|SnipinScientist]] ([[User talk:SnipinScientist\|talk]]) 16:44, 21 January 2019 (EST)		It mirrors the beliefs which he preached in Exodus about the system of caste that oppressed people, and the fact that the High Council chose to see him as an enemy, an agitator and the original perpetrator of the terrorist attacks happening on Cybertron (which he was but kept secret).--[[User:SnipinScientist\|SnipinScientist]] ([[User talk:SnipinScientist\|talk]]) 16:44, 21 January 2019 (EST)
	:While a bit similar, it's more than likely coincidence and not notable enough to be worth mention. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 17:03, 21 January 2019 (EST)		:While a bit similar, it's more than likely coincidence and not notable enough to be worth mention. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 17:03, 21 January 2019 (EST)

			==More Cleaning Up?==
			Just thinking, looking over this page, it could use some serious work in places. Just giving one example: The movieverse section. It's treating the films, the Titan comics, the IDW comics and the books as one big continuity soup (also using the word "spastic" in the opening sentence, which is a different kettle of fish). And that's just the biggest quibble.
			(The smallest would be the trivia note at the very bottom of the page. Is that thing really necessary?) [[User:Smasher\|Smasher]] ([[User talk:Smasher\|talk]]) 17:47, 20 October 2019 (EDT)

Cyberlink420: /* Galatians 4:16 and Orion Pax Part 1 quote */

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Galatians 4:16 and Orion Pax Part 1 quote

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	== Galatians 4:16 and Orion Pax Part 1 quote ==		== Galatians 4:16 and Orion Pax Part 1 quote ==

	Is it appropriate to add another quote under the Aligned section ~~{{quote\|~~For if speaking the truth is Deception, then we are gladly guilty}}, from the episode Orion Pax: Part 1 spoken by Megatron (formerly D-16) to Orion Pax. This one makes explicit a canonical reason for the movement or faction to be called the way it is, and taken directly from the movement's creator, no less.		Is it appropriate to add another quote under the Aligned section "For if speaking the truth is Deception, then we are gladly guilty", from the episode Orion Pax: Part 1 spoken by Megatron (formerly D-16) to Orion Pax. This one makes explicit a canonical reason for the movement or faction to be called the way it is, and taken directly from the movement's creator, no less.

	It just happens to be a coincidence but in Galatians 4:16 (kinda like D-16) it's said : Am I therefore become your enemy for telling you the truth ?		It just happens to be a coincidence but in Galatians 4:16 (kinda like D-16) it's said : Am I therefore become your enemy for telling you the truth ?
	It mirrors the beliefs which he preached in Exodus about the system of caste that oppressed people, and the fact that the High Council chose to see him as an enemy, an agitator and the original perpetrator of the terrorist attacks happening on Cybertron (which he was but kept secret).--[[User:SnipinScientist\|SnipinScientist]] ([[User talk:SnipinScientist\|talk]]) 16:44, 21 January 2019 (EST)		It mirrors the beliefs which he preached in Exodus about the system of caste that oppressed people, and the fact that the High Council chose to see him as an enemy, an agitator and the original perpetrator of the terrorist attacks happening on Cybertron (which he was but kept secret).--[[User:SnipinScientist\|SnipinScientist]] ([[User talk:SnipinScientist\|talk]]) 16:44, 21 January 2019 (EST)
			:While a bit similar, it's more than likely coincidence and not notable enough to be worth mention. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 17:03, 21 January 2019 (EST)

SnipinScientist: Aligned Decepticon name origin

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Aligned Decepticon name origin

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	Shouldn't the RID Decepticons have a separate article? They're no more the same as normal Decepticons as RID Predacons are to G1 (or BW) Predacons, and they all get separate articles. --[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 15:21, 30 January 2013 (EST)		Shouldn't the RID Decepticons have a separate article? They're no more the same as normal Decepticons as RID Predacons are to G1 (or BW) Predacons, and they all get separate articles. --[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 15:21, 30 January 2013 (EST)

			== Galatians 4:16 and Orion Pax Part 1 quote ==

			Is it appropriate to add another quote under the Aligned section {{quote\|For if speaking the truth is Deception, then we are gladly guilty}}, from the episode Orion Pax: Part 1 spoken by Megatron (formerly D-16) to Orion Pax. This one makes explicit a canonical reason for the movement or faction to be called the way it is, and taken directly from the movement's creator, no less.

			It just happens to be a coincidence but in Galatians 4:16 (kinda like D-16) it's said : Am I therefore become your enemy for telling you the truth ?
			It mirrors the beliefs which he preached in Exodus about the system of caste that oppressed people, and the fact that the High Council chose to see him as an enemy, an agitator and the original perpetrator of the terrorist attacks happening on Cybertron (which he was but kept secret).--[[User:SnipinScientist\|SnipinScientist]] ([[User talk:SnipinScientist\|talk]]) 16:44, 21 January 2019 (EST)

Flicky1991: /* RID */ new section

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RID: new section

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	:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

			== RID ==

			Shouldn't the RID Decepticons have a separate article? They're no more the same as normal Decepticons as RID Predacons are to G1 (or BW) Predacons, and they all get separate articles. --[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 15:21, 30 January 2013 (EST)

Interrobang at 20:27, 5 September 2009

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	:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	~~:::Deathtron makes a bit more sense to me, seeing as how (aside from Shattered Glass) the Decepticons are the murderous bad guys. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman\|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 20:24, 13 July 2009 (EDT)~~

ZeldaTheSwordsman: /* Destron */

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Destron

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	:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	:::Deathtron makes a bit more sense to me. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman\|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 20:24, 13 July 2009 (EDT)		:::Deathtron makes a bit more sense to me, seeing as how (aside from Shattered Glass) the Decepticons are the murderous bad guys. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman\|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 20:24, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

ZeldaTheSwordsman: /* Destron */

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Destron

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	:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
			:::Deathtron makes a bit more sense to me. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman\|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 20:24, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

Interrobang: /* Destron */

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Destron

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	:A valid phonetic rendering of the characters.		:A valid phonetic rendering of the characters.
	:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
			::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

Derik: /* Destron */

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Destron

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	I went to a Japanese Transformers fansite. The Yahoo! translator translated it smoothly. However, where I had expected to see the word "Destron", it was instead translated as "Deathtron". [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman\|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 21:14, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		I went to a Japanese Transformers fansite. The Yahoo! translator translated it smoothly. However, where I had expected to see the word "Destron", it was instead translated as "Deathtron". [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman\|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 21:14, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
			:A valid phonetic rendering of the characters.
			:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

ZeldaTheSwordsman: /* Destron */ new section

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Destron: new section

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	==Catchphrase==		==Catchphrase==
	Does anyone think that the Animated Megatron's "Transform and Rise Up" would be effectively used as a quote on this page, either for the decepticons in general or for the Animated branch?		Does anyone think that the Animated Megatron's "Transform and Rise Up" would be effectively used as a quote on this page, either for the decepticons in general or for the Animated branch?

			== Destron ==

			I went to a Japanese Transformers fansite. The Yahoo! translator translated it smoothly. However, where I had expected to see the word "Destron", it was instead translated as "Deathtron". [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman\|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 21:14, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

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	:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	~~:::Deathtron makes a bit more sense to me, seeing as how (aside from Shattered Glass) the Decepticons are the murderous bad guys. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman\|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 20:24, 13 July 2009 (EDT)~~

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	:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	:::Deathtron makes a bit more sense to me. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman\|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 20:24, 13 July 2009 (EDT)		:::Deathtron makes a bit more sense to me, seeing as how (aside from Shattered Glass) the Decepticons are the murderous bad guys. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman\|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 20:24, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

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	:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
	::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)		::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
			:::Deathtron makes a bit more sense to me. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman\|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 20:24, 13 July 2009 (EDT)