Talk:Decoy Convoy - Revision history

Saix at 00:00, 16 May 2024

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	:This is all speculative on your part, drawing connections that the text does not. If they wanted to reference or homage Convoy is Dead, the manga could have easily added even one panel where his body is being carried by helicopter like the commercial. But since there isn't one, this just feels like attempting to draw lines between two things where there aren't any. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 19:38, 15 May 2024 (EDT)		:This is all speculative on your part, drawing connections that the text does not. If they wanted to reference or homage Convoy is Dead, the manga could have easily added even one panel where his body is being carried by helicopter like the commercial. But since there isn't one, this just feels like attempting to draw lines between two things where there aren't any. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 19:38, 15 May 2024 (EDT)
	::Thankyou for your comment. I don't see it as speculation as I'm not taking just the manga into account. However, I know when to leave something alone. [[User:Astrobotix\|Astrobotix]] ([[User talk:Astrobotix\|talk]]) 19:44, 15 May 2024 (EDT)		::Thankyou for your comment. I don't see it as speculation as I'm not taking just the manga into account. However, I know when to leave something alone. [[User:Astrobotix\|Astrobotix]] ([[User talk:Astrobotix\|talk]]) 19:44, 15 May 2024 (EDT)
			:::It's speculative because you're drawing connections that actual Kiss Players material doesn't and you're also making bizarre grand assertions about the "memoires of a nation" that you seem to just have made up. It's constructed in Japan because that's where the EDC as led by Amaou is headquartered and they built it before the real Convoy's corpse arrived because it's part of their plan to draw out the Resistance and kill them. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 20:00, 15 May 2024 (EDT)

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Convoy is dead! connection

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	Within the ''Kiss Players''' continuity, the "Convoy Transfer Operation" alludes to the live-action video segment, "[[Commercial/Japan#Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010\|Convoy is dead! campaign short (コンポイが死んだ!キャンペーン篇)]]" later included on ''[[The Transformers: The Movie - Apocalypse: Be Eternal, Matrix]]'' VHS, in which "not-[[Tommy Kennedy]]" screams out in anguish as Convoy is airlifted through [[Manhattan]] as the origin-point of the operation. The ''Convoy Transfer Operation'' does not simply encompass the events of the Bay Bridge, it is a prolonged scheme by the EDC, which begins with Convoy's transfer from New York to Japan and beyond. Given the other nods woven throughout the Kiss Player franchise to other obscure Japanese lore and the explicit connections between New York/Manhattan and Japan menntioned across various Kiss Player media, and the fact that the Decoy Convoy Encyclopedia entry mentions that the decoy was constructed in Japan BEFORE the real convoy ARRIVED it is pretty clear that this prominant Japanese commercial is the origin point of the ''Convoy Transfer Operation''. Just because one user does not remember the commercial, one that is embedded in the memories of a nation which had no access to ''The Movie'' at the time, is not a valid reason to discount an entire generation who does. [[User:Astrobotix\|Astrobotix]] ([[User talk:Astrobotix\|talk]]) 19:06, 15 May 2024 (EDT)		Within the ''Kiss Players''' continuity, the "Convoy Transfer Operation" alludes to the live-action video segment, "[[Commercial/Japan#Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010\|Convoy is dead! campaign short (コンポイが死んだ!キャンペーン篇)]]" later included on ''[[The Transformers: The Movie - Apocalypse: Be Eternal, Matrix]]'' VHS, in which "not-[[Tommy Kennedy]]" screams out in anguish as Convoy is airlifted through [[Manhattan]] as the origin-point of the operation. The ''Convoy Transfer Operation'' does not simply encompass the events of the Bay Bridge, it is a prolonged scheme by the EDC, which begins with Convoy's transfer from New York to Japan and beyond. Given the other nods woven throughout the Kiss Player franchise to other obscure Japanese lore and the explicit connections between New York/Manhattan and Japan menntioned across various Kiss Player media, and the fact that the Decoy Convoy Encyclopedia entry mentions that the decoy was constructed in Japan BEFORE the real convoy ARRIVED it is pretty clear that this prominant Japanese commercial is the origin point of the ''Convoy Transfer Operation''. Just because one user does not remember the commercial, one that is embedded in the memories of a nation which had no access to ''The Movie'' at the time, is not a valid reason to discount an entire generation who does. [[User:Astrobotix\|Astrobotix]] ([[User talk:Astrobotix\|talk]]) 19:06, 15 May 2024 (EDT)
	:This is all speculative on your part, drawing connections that the text does not. If they wanted to reference or homage Convoy is Dead, the manga could have easily added even one panel where his body is being carried by helicopter like the commercial. But since there isn't one, this just feels like attempting to draw lines between two things where there aren't any. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 19:38, 15 May 2024 (EDT)		:This is all speculative on your part, drawing connections that the text does not. If they wanted to reference or homage Convoy is Dead, the manga could have easily added even one panel where his body is being carried by helicopter like the commercial. But since there isn't one, this just feels like attempting to draw lines between two things where there aren't any. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 19:38, 15 May 2024 (EDT)
			::Thankyou for your comment. I don't see it as speculation as I'm not taking just the manga into account. However, I know when to leave something alone. [[User:Astrobotix\|Astrobotix]] ([[User talk:Astrobotix\|talk]]) 19:44, 15 May 2024 (EDT)

Cyberlink420 at 23:38, 15 May 2024

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	==Convoy is dead! connection==		==Convoy is dead! connection==
	Within the ''Kiss Players''' continuity, the "Convoy Transfer Operation" alludes to the live-action video segment, "[[Commercial/Japan#Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010\|Convoy is dead! campaign short (コンポイが死んだ!キャンペーン篇)]]" later included on ''[[The Transformers: The Movie - Apocalypse: Be Eternal, Matrix]]'' VHS, in which "not-[[Tommy Kennedy]]" screams out in anguish as Convoy is airlifted through [[Manhattan]] as the origin-point of the operation. The ''Convoy Transfer Operation'' does not simply encompass the events of the Bay Bridge, it is a prolonged scheme by the EDC, which begins with Convoy's transfer from New York to Japan and beyond. Given the other nods woven throughout the Kiss Player franchise to other obscure Japanese lore and the explicit connections between New York/Manhattan and Japan menntioned across various Kiss Player media, and the fact that the Decoy Convoy Encyclopedia entry mentions that the decoy was constructed in Japan BEFORE the real convoy ARRIVED it is pretty clear that this prominant Japanese commercial is the origin point of the ''Convoy Transfer Operation''. Just because one user does not remember the commercial, one that is embedded in the memories of a nation which had no access to ''The Movie'' at the time, is not a valid reason to discount an entire generation who does. [[User:Astrobotix\|Astrobotix]] ([[User talk:Astrobotix\|talk]]) 19:06, 15 May 2024 (EDT)		Within the ''Kiss Players''' continuity, the "Convoy Transfer Operation" alludes to the live-action video segment, "[[Commercial/Japan#Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010\|Convoy is dead! campaign short (コンポイが死んだ!キャンペーン篇)]]" later included on ''[[The Transformers: The Movie - Apocalypse: Be Eternal, Matrix]]'' VHS, in which "not-[[Tommy Kennedy]]" screams out in anguish as Convoy is airlifted through [[Manhattan]] as the origin-point of the operation. The ''Convoy Transfer Operation'' does not simply encompass the events of the Bay Bridge, it is a prolonged scheme by the EDC, which begins with Convoy's transfer from New York to Japan and beyond. Given the other nods woven throughout the Kiss Player franchise to other obscure Japanese lore and the explicit connections between New York/Manhattan and Japan menntioned across various Kiss Player media, and the fact that the Decoy Convoy Encyclopedia entry mentions that the decoy was constructed in Japan BEFORE the real convoy ARRIVED it is pretty clear that this prominant Japanese commercial is the origin point of the ''Convoy Transfer Operation''. Just because one user does not remember the commercial, one that is embedded in the memories of a nation which had no access to ''The Movie'' at the time, is not a valid reason to discount an entire generation who does. [[User:Astrobotix\|Astrobotix]] ([[User talk:Astrobotix\|talk]]) 19:06, 15 May 2024 (EDT)
			:This is all speculative on your part, drawing connections that the text does not. If they wanted to reference or homage Convoy is Dead, the manga could have easily added even one panel where his body is being carried by helicopter like the commercial. But since there isn't one, this just feels like attempting to draw lines between two things where there aren't any. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 19:38, 15 May 2024 (EDT)

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==Convoy is dead! connection==
Within the ''Kiss Players''' continuity, the "Convoy Transfer Operation" alludes to the live-action video segment, "[[Commercial/Japan#Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010|Convoy is dead! campaign short (コンポイが死んだ!キャンペーン篇)]]" later included on ''[[The Transformers: The Movie - Apocalypse: Be Eternal, Matrix]]'' VHS, in which "not-[[Tommy Kennedy]]" screams out in anguish as Convoy is airlifted through [[Manhattan]] as the origin-point of the operation. The ''Convoy Transfer Operation'' does not simply encompass the events of the Bay Bridge, it is a prolonged scheme by the EDC, which begins with Convoy's transfer from New York to Japan and beyond. Given the other nods woven throughout the Kiss Player franchise to other obscure Japanese lore and the explicit connections between New York/Manhattan and Japan menntioned across various Kiss Player media, and the fact that the Decoy Convoy Encyclopedia entry mentions that the decoy was constructed in Japan BEFORE the real convoy ARRIVED it is pretty clear that this prominant Japanese commercial is the origin point of the ''Convoy Transfer Operation''. Just because one user does not remember the commercial, one that is embedded in the memories of a nation which had no access to ''The Movie'' at the time, is not a valid reason to discount an entire generation who does. [[User:Astrobotix|Astrobotix]] ([[User talk:Astrobotix|talk]]) 19:06, 15 May 2024 (EDT)

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	:This is all speculative on your part, drawing connections that the text does not. If they wanted to reference or homage Convoy is Dead, the manga could have easily added even one panel where his body is being carried by helicopter like the commercial. But since there isn't one, this just feels like attempting to draw lines between two things where there aren't any. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 19:38, 15 May 2024 (EDT)		:This is all speculative on your part, drawing connections that the text does not. If they wanted to reference or homage Convoy is Dead, the manga could have easily added even one panel where his body is being carried by helicopter like the commercial. But since there isn't one, this just feels like attempting to draw lines between two things where there aren't any. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 19:38, 15 May 2024 (EDT)
	::Thankyou for your comment. I don't see it as speculation as I'm not taking just the manga into account. However, I know when to leave something alone. [[User:Astrobotix\|Astrobotix]] ([[User talk:Astrobotix\|talk]]) 19:44, 15 May 2024 (EDT)		::Thankyou for your comment. I don't see it as speculation as I'm not taking just the manga into account. However, I know when to leave something alone. [[User:Astrobotix\|Astrobotix]] ([[User talk:Astrobotix\|talk]]) 19:44, 15 May 2024 (EDT)
			:::It's speculative because you're drawing connections that actual Kiss Players material doesn't and you're also making bizarre grand assertions about the "memoires of a nation" that you seem to just have made up. It's constructed in Japan because that's where the EDC as led by Amaou is headquartered and they built it before the real Convoy's corpse arrived because it's part of their plan to draw out the Resistance and kill them. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 20:00, 15 May 2024 (EDT)