Talk:Design flaw - Revision history

Hooper X at 12:03, 23 February 2023

2023-02-23T12:03:27Z

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	i can't pose my [[Cheetor_(BW)/toys#Beast_Wars\|BW Cheetor]], [[:File:Supercon_ArmadaPrime.jpg\|Armada Super-Con Optimus]], or [[:File:Generationstoy-T30-LegendsMegatronChopShop.jpg\|Generations: Thrilling 30 Legends Class Megatron]] so they're sitting down. The front of Cheetor's robot mode thighs are too bulgy, and Optimus and Megatron look like they might be able to sit down if not for the [[Wikipedia:Greeble\|greeble-like]] ornamentation on the front of their thighs. Anyone else have this problem? ("Anyone else" referring to TransFans or Transformers.) Is this problem considered a design flaw? Should this type of design flaw be noted in this article? --[[User:Rhymus\|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus\|talk]]) 01:03, 19 April 2015 (EDT)		i can't pose my [[Cheetor_(BW)/toys#Beast_Wars\|BW Cheetor]], [[:File:Supercon_ArmadaPrime.jpg\|Armada Super-Con Optimus]], or [[:File:Generationstoy-T30-LegendsMegatronChopShop.jpg\|Generations: Thrilling 30 Legends Class Megatron]] so they're sitting down. The front of Cheetor's robot mode thighs are too bulgy, and Optimus and Megatron look like they might be able to sit down if not for the [[Wikipedia:Greeble\|greeble-like]] ornamentation on the front of their thighs. Anyone else have this problem? ("Anyone else" referring to TransFans or Transformers.) Is this problem considered a design flaw? Should this type of design flaw be noted in this article? --[[User:Rhymus\|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus\|talk]]) 01:03, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
	:Why would that be a design flaw? --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 01:32, 19 April 2015 (EDT)		:Why would that be a design flaw? --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 01:32, 19 April 2015 (EDT)

			==Too Much Pressure==
			Thinking here about toys where the design or the conversion process puts too much stress on parts which then fail - TF07 Beater Bumblebee has that geared transformation in the chest that breaks, Studio Series Optimus has that flimsy little tab holding the altmode’s grille together, etc. The tabs are too thin for the stresses they’re expected to manage. [[User:Hooper X\|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X\|talk]]) 07:03, 23 February 2023 (EST)

Waverod: /* Pics needed */

2018-09-03T02:20:04Z

Pics needed

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	Should we put "pics needed" for some examples to show readers? --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 02:11, 22 February 2012 (EST)		Should we put "pics needed" for some examples to show readers? --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 02:11, 22 February 2012 (EST)
			:I know this is an old comment, but... except in very egregious cases (which ought to have been caught by anyone remotely competent at the prototype stage), you can't really tell a lot of these from a picture. If you're not familiar with a toy, it's far from obvious that one part is fragile or blocked.--[[User:Cosmos1\|Waverod ✈️]] ([[User talk:Cosmos1\|talk]]) 22:20, 2 September 2018 (EDT)

	== Transmetal 2 Megatron ==		== Transmetal 2 Megatron ==

Abates: /* can't sit */

2015-04-19T05:32:44Z

can't sit

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	i can't pose my [[Cheetor_(BW)/toys#Beast_Wars\|BW Cheetor]], [[:File:Supercon_ArmadaPrime.jpg\|Armada Super-Con Optimus]], or [[:File:Generationstoy-T30-LegendsMegatronChopShop.jpg\|Generations: Thrilling 30 Legends Class Megatron]] so they're sitting down. The front of Cheetor's robot mode thighs are too bulgy, and Optimus and Megatron look like they might be able to sit down if not for the [[Wikipedia:Greeble\|greeble-like]] ornamentation on the front of their thighs. Anyone else have this problem? ("Anyone else" referring to TransFans or Transformers.) Is this problem considered a design flaw? Should this type of design flaw be noted in this article? --[[User:Rhymus\|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus\|talk]]) 01:03, 19 April 2015 (EDT)		i can't pose my [[Cheetor_(BW)/toys#Beast_Wars\|BW Cheetor]], [[:File:Supercon_ArmadaPrime.jpg\|Armada Super-Con Optimus]], or [[:File:Generationstoy-T30-LegendsMegatronChopShop.jpg\|Generations: Thrilling 30 Legends Class Megatron]] so they're sitting down. The front of Cheetor's robot mode thighs are too bulgy, and Optimus and Megatron look like they might be able to sit down if not for the [[Wikipedia:Greeble\|greeble-like]] ornamentation on the front of their thighs. Anyone else have this problem? ("Anyone else" referring to TransFans or Transformers.) Is this problem considered a design flaw? Should this type of design flaw be noted in this article? --[[User:Rhymus\|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus\|talk]]) 01:03, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
			:Why would that be a design flaw? --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 01:32, 19 April 2015 (EDT)

Rhymus: /* can't sit */ new section

2015-04-19T05:03:39Z

can't sit: new section

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	Has anyone else had the swivel joints in TM2 Megs' legs break apart? It seems like the joint is too tight and the plastic too thin. I could include a pic later. --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] 15:04, 31 January 2013 (EST)		Has anyone else had the swivel joints in TM2 Megs' legs break apart? It seems like the joint is too tight and the plastic too thin. I could include a pic later. --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] 15:04, 31 January 2013 (EST)

			== can't sit ==

			i can't pose my [[Cheetor_(BW)/toys#Beast_Wars\|BW Cheetor]], [[:File:Supercon_ArmadaPrime.jpg\|Armada Super-Con Optimus]], or [[:File:Generationstoy-T30-LegendsMegatronChopShop.jpg\|Generations: Thrilling 30 Legends Class Megatron]] so they're sitting down. The front of Cheetor's robot mode thighs are too bulgy, and Optimus and Megatron look like they might be able to sit down if not for the [[Wikipedia:Greeble\|greeble-like]] ornamentation on the front of their thighs. Anyone else have this problem? ("Anyone else" referring to TransFans or Transformers.) Is this problem considered a design flaw? Should this type of design flaw be noted in this article? --[[User:Rhymus\|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus\|talk]]) 01:03, 19 April 2015 (EDT)

King Starscream: /* Transmetal 2 Megatron */ new section

2013-01-31T20:04:08Z

Transmetal 2 Megatron: new section

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	Should we put "pics needed" for some examples to show readers? --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 02:11, 22 February 2012 (EST)		Should we put "pics needed" for some examples to show readers? --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 02:11, 22 February 2012 (EST)

			== Transmetal 2 Megatron ==

			Has anyone else had the swivel joints in TM2 Megs' legs break apart? It seems like the joint is too tight and the plastic too thin. I could include a pic later. --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] 15:04, 31 January 2013 (EST)

TX55: /* Pics needed */ new section

2012-02-22T07:11:08Z

Pics needed: new section

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	"Parts have to be moved out of the way to move other parts as intended" isn't quite the problem the other toys have. The problem is "parts cannot possibly be moved as intended due to other parts being permanently in the way".--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 14:39, 1 October 2011 (EDT)		"Parts have to be moved out of the way to move other parts as intended" isn't quite the problem the other toys have. The problem is "parts cannot possibly be moved as intended due to other parts being permanently in the way".--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 14:39, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

			== Pics needed ==

			Should we put "pics needed" for some examples to show readers? --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 02:11, 22 February 2012 (EST)

Nevermore: /* ROTF Leader Prime? */ new section

2011-10-01T18:39:19Z

ROTF Leader Prime?: new section

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	::[[Drill_Bit_%28BW%29#Beast_Wars\|Design flaw]]; the pegs don't point ''backward'' so much as ''in the completely wrong direction''. It's a big flaw, too, as the misdirected pegs interfere with transformation. --[[User:Salt-Man Z\|Salt-Man Z]] 16:56, 25 July 2011 (EDT)		::[[Drill_Bit_%28BW%29#Beast_Wars\|Design flaw]]; the pegs don't point ''backward'' so much as ''in the completely wrong direction''. It's a big flaw, too, as the misdirected pegs interfere with transformation. --[[User:Salt-Man Z\|Salt-Man Z]] 16:56, 25 July 2011 (EDT)
	::Also that lying Hasbro liar at BC97 totally lied and said there was nothing wrong with him and I was transforming him wrong! I'm pretty sure being told "you can't figure out Drill Bit" is one of the most insulting things you can say to a man. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 18:55, 25 July 2011 (EDT)		::Also that lying Hasbro liar at BC97 totally lied and said there was nothing wrong with him and I was transforming him wrong! I'm pretty sure being told "you can't figure out Drill Bit" is one of the most insulting things you can say to a man. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 18:55, 25 July 2011 (EDT)

			== ROTF Leader Prime? ==

			"Parts have to be moved out of the way to move other parts as intended" isn't quite the problem the other toys have. The problem is "parts cannot possibly be moved as intended due to other parts being permanently in the way".--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 14:39, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

LV: /* BW Drill Bit */

2011-07-25T22:55:32Z

BW Drill Bit

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	:Is that a [[misassembly]] or a design flaw?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 16:23, 14 October 2010 (EDT)		:Is that a [[misassembly]] or a design flaw?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 16:23, 14 October 2010 (EDT)
	::[[Drill_Bit_%28BW%29#Beast_Wars\|Design flaw]]; the pegs don't point ''backward'' so much as ''in the completely wrong direction''. It's a big flaw, too, as the misdirected pegs interfere with transformation. --[[User:Salt-Man Z\|Salt-Man Z]] 16:56, 25 July 2011 (EDT)		::[[Drill_Bit_%28BW%29#Beast_Wars\|Design flaw]]; the pegs don't point ''backward'' so much as ''in the completely wrong direction''. It's a big flaw, too, as the misdirected pegs interfere with transformation. --[[User:Salt-Man Z\|Salt-Man Z]] 16:56, 25 July 2011 (EDT)
			::Also that lying Hasbro liar at BC97 totally lied and said there was nothing wrong with him and I was transforming him wrong! I'm pretty sure being told "you can't figure out Drill Bit" is one of the most insulting things you can say to a man. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 18:55, 25 July 2011 (EDT)

Salt-Man Z: /* BW Drill Bit design flaw */

2011-07-25T20:56:23Z

BW Drill Bit design flaw

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	This is a classic. The pegs that are supposed to connect the critter legs to the inside of the critter shell in beast mode were designed backwards. So they don't peg into anything. [[User:Hooper X\|-hx]] 21:25, 19 September 2010 (EDT)		This is a classic. The pegs that are supposed to connect the critter legs to the inside of the critter shell in beast mode were designed backwards. So they don't peg into anything. [[User:Hooper X\|-hx]] 21:25, 19 September 2010 (EDT)
	:Is that a [[misassembly]] or a design flaw?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 16:23, 14 October 2010 (EDT)		:Is that a [[misassembly]] or a design flaw?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 16:23, 14 October 2010 (EDT)
			::[[Drill_Bit_%28BW%29#Beast_Wars\|Design flaw]]; the pegs don't point ''backward'' so much as ''in the completely wrong direction''. It's a big flaw, too, as the misdirected pegs interfere with transformation. --[[User:Salt-Man Z\|Salt-Man Z]] 16:56, 25 July 2011 (EDT)

Nevermore: /* BW Drill Bit */

2010-10-14T20:23:53Z

BW Drill Bit

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	==BW Drill Bit==		==BW Drill Bit==
	This is a classic. The pegs that are supposed to connect the critter legs to the inside of the critter shell in beast mode were designed backwards. So they don't peg into anything. [[User:Hooper X\|-hx]] 21:25, 19 September 2010 (EDT)		This is a classic. The pegs that are supposed to connect the critter legs to the inside of the critter shell in beast mode were designed backwards. So they don't peg into anything. [[User:Hooper X\|-hx]] 21:25, 19 September 2010 (EDT)
			:Is that a [[misassembly]] or a design flaw?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 16:23, 14 October 2010 (EDT)

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	:Is that a [[misassembly]] or a design flaw?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 16:23, 14 October 2010 (EDT)		:Is that a [[misassembly]] or a design flaw?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 16:23, 14 October 2010 (EDT)
	::[[Drill_Bit_%28BW%29#Beast_Wars\|Design flaw]]; the pegs don't point ''backward'' so much as ''in the completely wrong direction''. It's a big flaw, too, as the misdirected pegs interfere with transformation. --[[User:Salt-Man Z\|Salt-Man Z]] 16:56, 25 July 2011 (EDT)		::[[Drill_Bit_%28BW%29#Beast_Wars\|Design flaw]]; the pegs don't point ''backward'' so much as ''in the completely wrong direction''. It's a big flaw, too, as the misdirected pegs interfere with transformation. --[[User:Salt-Man Z\|Salt-Man Z]] 16:56, 25 July 2011 (EDT)
			::Also that lying Hasbro liar at BC97 totally lied and said there was nothing wrong with him and I was transforming him wrong! I'm pretty sure being told "you can't figure out Drill Bit" is one of the most insulting things you can say to a man. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 18:55, 25 July 2011 (EDT)

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	This is a classic. The pegs that are supposed to connect the critter legs to the inside of the critter shell in beast mode were designed backwards. So they don't peg into anything. [[User:Hooper X\|-hx]] 21:25, 19 September 2010 (EDT)		This is a classic. The pegs that are supposed to connect the critter legs to the inside of the critter shell in beast mode were designed backwards. So they don't peg into anything. [[User:Hooper X\|-hx]] 21:25, 19 September 2010 (EDT)
	:Is that a [[misassembly]] or a design flaw?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 16:23, 14 October 2010 (EDT)		:Is that a [[misassembly]] or a design flaw?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 16:23, 14 October 2010 (EDT)
			::[[Drill_Bit_%28BW%29#Beast_Wars\|Design flaw]]; the pegs don't point ''backward'' so much as ''in the completely wrong direction''. It's a big flaw, too, as the misdirected pegs interfere with transformation. --[[User:Salt-Man Z\|Salt-Man Z]] 16:56, 25 July 2011 (EDT)