Talk:Devastator (Universe Ultra) - Revision history

Giggidy: /* Components */

2015-07-30T23:00:51Z

Components

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	I'm really not sure what to do about the components of this guy. Especially since there already is a RID Scavenger (who's probably a different guy) and a RID Hightower, who may be the same guy. Help?--[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 18:27, 30 July 2015 (EDT)		I'm really not sure what to do about the components of this guy. Especially since there already is a RID Scavenger (who's probably a different guy) and a RID Hightower, who may be the same guy. Help?--[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 18:27, 30 July 2015 (EDT)
	:The components can basically stay as is, with their new fiction added. They don't need moving since they still originated in Universe, and based on the precedent of the BM Vehicon generals they don't need merging with the Build Team guys. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 18:54, 30 July 2015 (EDT)		:The components can basically stay as is, with their new fiction added. They don't need moving since they still originated in Universe, and based on the precedent of the BM Vehicon generals they don't need merging with the Build Team guys. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 18:54, 30 July 2015 (EDT)
			::Oh, good! That sounds easy. --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 19:00, 30 July 2015 (EDT)

Jalaguy: /* Components */

2015-07-30T22:54:10Z

Components

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	I'm really not sure what to do about the components of this guy. Especially since there already is a RID Scavenger (who's probably a different guy) and a RID Hightower, who may be the same guy. Help?--[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 18:27, 30 July 2015 (EDT)		I'm really not sure what to do about the components of this guy. Especially since there already is a RID Scavenger (who's probably a different guy) and a RID Hightower, who may be the same guy. Help?--[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 18:27, 30 July 2015 (EDT)
			:The components can basically stay as is, with their new fiction added. They don't need moving since they still originated in Universe, and based on the precedent of the BM Vehicon generals they don't need merging with the Build Team guys. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 18:54, 30 July 2015 (EDT)

Jalaguy: Jalaguy moved page Talk:Devastator (RID) to Talk:Devastator (Universe Ultra): Franchise of origin

2015-07-30T22:44:51Z

Jalaguy moved page Talk:Devastator (RID) to Talk:Devastator (Universe Ultra): Franchise of origin

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Giggidy at 22:27, 30 July 2015

2015-07-30T22:27:14Z

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	:::Officially, only the original RID releases of the Build Tram molds are Deluxes. The Universe redecoes may be Deluxe sized, but they aren't actually Deluxes unless they are sold as such. --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 03:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)		:::Officially, only the original RID releases of the Build Tram molds are Deluxes. The Universe redecoes may be Deluxe sized, but they aren't actually Deluxes unless they are sold as such. --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 03:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
	::::Because any given class isn't the size of a ''toy;'' it's the size of a ''package.'' Especially in this case, where the toys were designed for the Japanese market with no particular regard for Hasbro's packaging schema. Okay. Seems like a clear-cut case to revert the article names, then. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 03:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)		::::Because any given class isn't the size of a ''toy;'' it's the size of a ''package.'' Especially in this case, where the toys were designed for the Japanese market with no particular regard for Hasbro's packaging schema. Okay. Seems like a clear-cut case to revert the article names, then. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 03:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

			==Components==
			I'm really not sure what to do about the components of this guy. Especially since there already is a RID Scavenger (who's probably a different guy) and a RID Hightower, who may be the same guy. Help?--[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 18:27, 30 July 2015 (EDT)

Giggidy: Giggidy moved page Talk:Constructicon Devastator (Ultra) to Talk:Devastator (RID): Ask Vector Prime calls him "the Constructicons, Devastator"

2015-07-30T22:10:30Z

Giggidy moved page Talk:Constructicon Devastator (Ultra) to Talk:Devastator (RID): Ask Vector Prime calls him "the Constructicons, Devastator"

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Deceptitran: /* Deceptitran import fixes v1.0 */

2009-03-23T12:03:45Z

Deceptitran import fixes v1.0

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	::Hm. I noticed that the original titles for him and his components had said "ultra," but that was changed to "deluxe" without any discussion that I can find. The key point, as near as I can figure, is whether size-classes are about packaging or about the toys themselves. If it's just packaging, then yeah, the size of the toys is irrelevant, and we should label according to the box they came in. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 01:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)		::Hm. I noticed that the original titles for him and his components had said "ultra," but that was changed to "deluxe" without any discussion that I can find. The key point, as near as I can figure, is whether size-classes are about packaging or about the toys themselves. If it's just packaging, then yeah, the size of the toys is irrelevant, and we should label according to the box they came in. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 01:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::Officially, only the original RID releases of the Build Tram molds are Deluxes. The Universe redecoes may be Deluxe sized, but they aren't actually Deluxes unless they are sold as such. --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 03:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)		:::Officially, only the original RID releases of the Build Tram molds are Deluxes. The Universe redecoes may be Deluxe sized, but they aren't actually Deluxes unless they are sold as such. --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 03:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
	::::Because any given class isn't the size of a ''toy;'' it's the size of a ''package.'' Especially in this case, where the toys were designed for the Japanese market with no particular regard for Hasbro's packaging schema. Okay. Seems like a clear-cut case to revert the article names, then. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 03:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		::::Because any given class isn't the size of a ''toy;'' it's the size of a ''package.'' Especially in this case, where the toys were designed for the Japanese market with no particular regard for Hasbro's packaging schema. Okay. Seems like a clear-cut case to revert the article names, then. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 03:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Jackpot: Talk:Constructicon Devastator (Deluxe) moved to Talk:Constructicon Devastator (Ultra): Actually came in two Ultra packages.

2008-06-01T03:36:37Z

Talk:Constructicon Devastator (Deluxe) moved to Talk:Constructicon Devastator (Ultra): Actually came in two Ultra packages.

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Jackpot: /* Deluxe? */

2008-06-01T03:34:37Z

Deluxe?

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	:He doesn't have one. The one time Hasbro sold all 4 as a set was the Walmart exclusive set which didn't have a size class. The four deluxes would add up to Supreme Class (Universe used BW price points), but that is entirely unofficial. Personally, I think this page should be at Constructicon Devastator (Ultra), as the team was devided into two Ultra Class boxes.--[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 23:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)		:He doesn't have one. The one time Hasbro sold all 4 as a set was the Walmart exclusive set which didn't have a size class. The four deluxes would add up to Supreme Class (Universe used BW price points), but that is entirely unofficial. Personally, I think this page should be at Constructicon Devastator (Ultra), as the team was devided into two Ultra Class boxes.--[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 23:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
	::Hm. I noticed that the original titles for him and his components had said "ultra," but that was changed to "deluxe" without any discussion that I can find. The key point, as near as I can figure, is whether size-classes are about packaging or about the toys themselves. If it's just packaging, then yeah, the size of the toys is irrelevant, and we should label according to the box they came in. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 01:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)		::Hm. I noticed that the original titles for him and his components had said "ultra," but that was changed to "deluxe" without any discussion that I can find. The key point, as near as I can figure, is whether size-classes are about packaging or about the toys themselves. If it's just packaging, then yeah, the size of the toys is irrelevant, and we should label according to the box they came in. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 01:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::Officially, only the original RID releases of the Build Tram molds are Deluxes. The Universe redecoes may be Deluxe sized, but they aren't actually Deluxes unless they are sold as such. --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 03:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:::Officially, only the original RID releases of the Build Tram molds are Deluxes. The Universe redecoes may be Deluxe sized, but they aren't actually Deluxes unless they are sold as such. --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 03:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
			::::Because any given class isn't the size of a ''toy;'' it's the size of a ''package.'' Especially in this case, where the toys were designed for the Japanese market with no particular regard for Hasbro's packaging schema. Okay. Seems like a clear-cut case to revert the article names, then. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 03:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

FortMax: /* Deluxe? */

2008-06-01T03:18:21Z

Deluxe?

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	Should the disambig-parenthetical really say "Deluxe"? He's ''composed'' of deluxes, but what size-class is ''he?'' - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 21:54, 31 May 2008 (UTC)		Should the disambig-parenthetical really say "Deluxe"? He's ''composed'' of deluxes, but what size-class is ''he?'' - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 21:54, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
	:He doesn't have one. The one time Hasbro sold all 4 as a set was the Walmart exclusive set which didn't have a size class. The four deluxes would add up to Supreme Class (Universe used BW price points), but that is entirely unofficial. Personally, I think this page should be at Constructicon Devastator (Ultra), as the team was devided into two Ultra Class boxes.--[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 23:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)		:He doesn't have one. The one time Hasbro sold all 4 as a set was the Walmart exclusive set which didn't have a size class. The four deluxes would add up to Supreme Class (Universe used BW price points), but that is entirely unofficial. Personally, I think this page should be at Constructicon Devastator (Ultra), as the team was devided into two Ultra Class boxes.--[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 23:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
	::Hm. I noticed that the original titles for him and his components had said "ultra," but that was changed to "deluxe" without any discussion that I can find. The key point, as near as I can figure, is whether size-classes are about packaging or about the toys themselves. If it's just packaging, then yeah, the size of the toys is irrelevant, and we should label according to the box they came in. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 01:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::Hm. I noticed that the original titles for him and his components had said "ultra," but that was changed to "deluxe" without any discussion that I can find. The key point, as near as I can figure, is whether size-classes are about packaging or about the toys themselves. If it's just packaging, then yeah, the size of the toys is irrelevant, and we should label according to the box they came in. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 01:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
			:::Officially, only the original RID releases of the Build Tram molds are Deluxes. The Universe redecoes may be Deluxe sized, but they aren't actually Deluxes unless they are sold as such. --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 03:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Jackpot: /* Deluxe? */

2008-06-01T01:19:25Z

Deluxe?

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	Should the disambig-parenthetical really say "Deluxe"? He's ''composed'' of deluxes, but what size-class is ''he?'' - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 21:54, 31 May 2008 (UTC)		Should the disambig-parenthetical really say "Deluxe"? He's ''composed'' of deluxes, but what size-class is ''he?'' - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 21:54, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
	:He doesn't have one. The one time Hasbro sold all 4 as a set was the Walmart exclusive set which didn't have a size class. The four deluxes would add up to Supreme Class (Universe used BW price points), but that is entirely unofficial. Personally, I think this page should be at Constructicon Devastator (Ultra), as the team was devided into two Ultra Class boxes.--[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 23:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:He doesn't have one. The one time Hasbro sold all 4 as a set was the Walmart exclusive set which didn't have a size class. The four deluxes would add up to Supreme Class (Universe used BW price points), but that is entirely unofficial. Personally, I think this page should be at Constructicon Devastator (Ultra), as the team was devided into two Ultra Class boxes.--[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 23:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
			::Hm. I noticed that the original titles for him and his components had said "ultra," but that was changed to "deluxe" without any discussion that I can find. The key point, as near as I can figure, is whether size-classes are about packaging or about the toys themselves. If it's just packaging, then yeah, the size of the toys is irrelevant, and we should label according to the box they came in. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 01:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	I'm really not sure what to do about the components of this guy. Especially since there already is a RID Scavenger (who's probably a different guy) and a RID Hightower, who may be the same guy. Help?--[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 18:27, 30 July 2015 (EDT)		I'm really not sure what to do about the components of this guy. Especially since there already is a RID Scavenger (who's probably a different guy) and a RID Hightower, who may be the same guy. Help?--[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 18:27, 30 July 2015 (EDT)
	:The components can basically stay as is, with their new fiction added. They don't need moving since they still originated in Universe, and based on the precedent of the BM Vehicon generals they don't need merging with the Build Team guys. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 18:54, 30 July 2015 (EDT)		:The components can basically stay as is, with their new fiction added. They don't need moving since they still originated in Universe, and based on the precedent of the BM Vehicon generals they don't need merging with the Build Team guys. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 18:54, 30 July 2015 (EDT)
			::Oh, good! That sounds easy. --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 19:00, 30 July 2015 (EDT)

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	::Hm. I noticed that the original titles for him and his components had said "ultra," but that was changed to "deluxe" without any discussion that I can find. The key point, as near as I can figure, is whether size-classes are about packaging or about the toys themselves. If it's just packaging, then yeah, the size of the toys is irrelevant, and we should label according to the box they came in. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 01:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)		::Hm. I noticed that the original titles for him and his components had said "ultra," but that was changed to "deluxe" without any discussion that I can find. The key point, as near as I can figure, is whether size-classes are about packaging or about the toys themselves. If it's just packaging, then yeah, the size of the toys is irrelevant, and we should label according to the box they came in. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 01:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::Officially, only the original RID releases of the Build Tram molds are Deluxes. The Universe redecoes may be Deluxe sized, but they aren't actually Deluxes unless they are sold as such. --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 03:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)		:::Officially, only the original RID releases of the Build Tram molds are Deluxes. The Universe redecoes may be Deluxe sized, but they aren't actually Deluxes unless they are sold as such. --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 03:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
	::::Because any given class isn't the size of a ''toy;'' it's the size of a ''package.'' Especially in this case, where the toys were designed for the Japanese market with no particular regard for Hasbro's packaging schema. Okay. Seems like a clear-cut case to revert the article names, then. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 03:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		::::Because any given class isn't the size of a ''toy;'' it's the size of a ''package.'' Especially in this case, where the toys were designed for the Japanese market with no particular regard for Hasbro's packaging schema. Okay. Seems like a clear-cut case to revert the article names, then. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 03:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

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	:He doesn't have one. The one time Hasbro sold all 4 as a set was the Walmart exclusive set which didn't have a size class. The four deluxes would add up to Supreme Class (Universe used BW price points), but that is entirely unofficial. Personally, I think this page should be at Constructicon Devastator (Ultra), as the team was devided into two Ultra Class boxes.--[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 23:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)		:He doesn't have one. The one time Hasbro sold all 4 as a set was the Walmart exclusive set which didn't have a size class. The four deluxes would add up to Supreme Class (Universe used BW price points), but that is entirely unofficial. Personally, I think this page should be at Constructicon Devastator (Ultra), as the team was devided into two Ultra Class boxes.--[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 23:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
	::Hm. I noticed that the original titles for him and his components had said "ultra," but that was changed to "deluxe" without any discussion that I can find. The key point, as near as I can figure, is whether size-classes are about packaging or about the toys themselves. If it's just packaging, then yeah, the size of the toys is irrelevant, and we should label according to the box they came in. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 01:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)		::Hm. I noticed that the original titles for him and his components had said "ultra," but that was changed to "deluxe" without any discussion that I can find. The key point, as near as I can figure, is whether size-classes are about packaging or about the toys themselves. If it's just packaging, then yeah, the size of the toys is irrelevant, and we should label according to the box they came in. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 01:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::Officially, only the original RID releases of the Build Tram molds are Deluxes. The Universe redecoes may be Deluxe sized, but they aren't actually Deluxes unless they are sold as such. --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 03:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:::Officially, only the original RID releases of the Build Tram molds are Deluxes. The Universe redecoes may be Deluxe sized, but they aren't actually Deluxes unless they are sold as such. --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 03:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
			::::Because any given class isn't the size of a ''toy;'' it's the size of a ''package.'' Especially in this case, where the toys were designed for the Japanese market with no particular regard for Hasbro's packaging schema. Okay. Seems like a clear-cut case to revert the article names, then. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 03:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	Should the disambig-parenthetical really say "Deluxe"? He's ''composed'' of deluxes, but what size-class is ''he?'' - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 21:54, 31 May 2008 (UTC)		Should the disambig-parenthetical really say "Deluxe"? He's ''composed'' of deluxes, but what size-class is ''he?'' - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 21:54, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
	:He doesn't have one. The one time Hasbro sold all 4 as a set was the Walmart exclusive set which didn't have a size class. The four deluxes would add up to Supreme Class (Universe used BW price points), but that is entirely unofficial. Personally, I think this page should be at Constructicon Devastator (Ultra), as the team was devided into two Ultra Class boxes.--[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 23:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)		:He doesn't have one. The one time Hasbro sold all 4 as a set was the Walmart exclusive set which didn't have a size class. The four deluxes would add up to Supreme Class (Universe used BW price points), but that is entirely unofficial. Personally, I think this page should be at Constructicon Devastator (Ultra), as the team was devided into two Ultra Class boxes.--[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 23:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
	::Hm. I noticed that the original titles for him and his components had said "ultra," but that was changed to "deluxe" without any discussion that I can find. The key point, as near as I can figure, is whether size-classes are about packaging or about the toys themselves. If it's just packaging, then yeah, the size of the toys is irrelevant, and we should label according to the box they came in. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 01:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::Hm. I noticed that the original titles for him and his components had said "ultra," but that was changed to "deluxe" without any discussion that I can find. The key point, as near as I can figure, is whether size-classes are about packaging or about the toys themselves. If it's just packaging, then yeah, the size of the toys is irrelevant, and we should label according to the box they came in. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 01:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
			:::Officially, only the original RID releases of the Build Tram molds are Deluxes. The Universe redecoes may be Deluxe sized, but they aren't actually Deluxes unless they are sold as such. --[[User:FortMax\|FortMax]] 03:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>