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108.20.211.12: /* Footnotes */ new section

2011-06-14T23:55:38Z

Footnotes: new section

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	:In short, fandom is not monolithic. A few issues gain vast majority support, but otherwise, it is quite diverse, more so than most casual fans or non-fans might suspect.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 20:32, 16 September 2009 (EDT)		:In short, fandom is not monolithic. A few issues gain vast majority support, but otherwise, it is quite diverse, more so than most casual fans or non-fans might suspect.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 20:32, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
	::It's also supposed to give the uninformed reader some examples of what exactly it is these fans debate about. Saying "The fans often disagree" is one thing. Explicitly saying that there are fans who prefer X over Y makes it more accessible.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 03:53, 17 September 2009 (EDT)		::It's also supposed to give the uninformed reader some examples of what exactly it is these fans debate about. Saying "The fans often disagree" is one thing. Explicitly saying that there are fans who prefer X over Y makes it more accessible.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 03:53, 17 September 2009 (EDT)

			== Footnotes ==

			I know there are some (very twisted, in my opinion) people who ''like'' Kiss Players, but do we ''really'' have to mention them? --[[Special:Contributions/108.20.211.12\|108.20.211.12]] 19:55, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

Nevermore: /* Mindset */

2009-09-17T07:53:29Z

Mindset

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	I dunno. While the information there is accurate, I'm not sure what it ''says'' and thus uncertain as to whether it needs to be in the article. I mean, it basically says "the fandom's mindset is hard to pin down. They never agree on anything, except when they do. They hate change, except when they like it, and they don't enjoy being made fun of, except when they do." --[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian\|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 19:57, 16 September 2009 (EDT)		I dunno. While the information there is accurate, I'm not sure what it ''says'' and thus uncertain as to whether it needs to be in the article. I mean, it basically says "the fandom's mindset is hard to pin down. They never agree on anything, except when they do. They hate change, except when they like it, and they don't enjoy being made fun of, except when they do." --[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian\|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 19:57, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
	:In short, fandom is not monolithic. A few issues gain vast majority support, but otherwise, it is quite diverse, more so than most casual fans or non-fans might suspect.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 20:32, 16 September 2009 (EDT)		:In short, fandom is not monolithic. A few issues gain vast majority support, but otherwise, it is quite diverse, more so than most casual fans or non-fans might suspect.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 20:32, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
			::It's also supposed to give the uninformed reader some examples of what exactly it is these fans debate about. Saying "The fans often disagree" is one thing. Explicitly saying that there are fans who prefer X over Y makes it more accessible.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 03:53, 17 September 2009 (EDT)

Apcog: /* Mindset */

2009-09-17T00:32:12Z

Mindset

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	I dunno. While the information there is accurate, I'm not sure what it ''says'' and thus uncertain as to whether it needs to be in the article. I mean, it basically says "the fandom's mindset is hard to pin down. They never agree on anything, except when they do. They hate change, except when they like it, and they don't enjoy being made fun of, except when they do." --[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian\|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 19:57, 16 September 2009 (EDT)		I dunno. While the information there is accurate, I'm not sure what it ''says'' and thus uncertain as to whether it needs to be in the article. I mean, it basically says "the fandom's mindset is hard to pin down. They never agree on anything, except when they do. They hate change, except when they like it, and they don't enjoy being made fun of, except when they do." --[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian\|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 19:57, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
			:In short, fandom is not monolithic. A few issues gain vast majority support, but otherwise, it is quite diverse, more so than most casual fans or non-fans might suspect.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 20:32, 16 September 2009 (EDT)

Rosicrucian: /* Mindset */ new section

2009-09-16T23:57:32Z

Mindset: new section

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	::And, ironically, the reason "other stoes are all so against this site" ''is'' because of its isolationist stance. It's kinda like North Korea.		::And, ironically, the reason "other stoes are all so against this site" ''is'' because of its isolationist stance. It's kinda like North Korea.
	::Seibertron is often made fun of. And yet Ryan has no problem linking to other sites when appropriate. "They don't like us so we don't ever mention them" is kinda like a self-fullfilling prophecy, don't you think?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 08:08, 30 August 2009 (EDT)		::Seibertron is often made fun of. And yet Ryan has no problem linking to other sites when appropriate. "They don't like us so we don't ever mention them" is kinda like a self-fullfilling prophecy, don't you think?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 08:08, 30 August 2009 (EDT)

			== Mindset ==

			I dunno. While the information there is accurate, I'm not sure what it ''says'' and thus uncertain as to whether it needs to be in the article. I mean, it basically says "the fandom's mindset is hard to pin down. They never agree on anything, except when they do. They hate change, except when they like it, and they don't enjoy being made fun of, except when they do." --[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian\|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 19:57, 16 September 2009 (EDT)

Nevermore: /* Bigbot and Bottalk */

2009-08-30T12:08:07Z

Bigbot and Bottalk

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	[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Fandom&diff=355650&oldid=343131 This edit] reads like pro-Bottalk whitewash to me. I've incorporated some of it and changed it into [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Fandom&diff=356897&oldid=355650 this]. I know we shouldn't delve too much into fandom drama, but Renaud's laughable stance of being the only Transformers-related website on the entire world wide web, with content taken from Transformers.com and images hotlinked from there (to save Renaud the precious bandwidth), deserves mention as far as I'm concerned, and serves to explain what state the site is in these days.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 14:23, 26 August 2009 (EDT)		[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Fandom&diff=355650&oldid=343131 This edit] reads like pro-Bottalk whitewash to me. I've incorporated some of it and changed it into [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Fandom&diff=356897&oldid=355650 this]. I know we shouldn't delve too much into fandom drama, but Renaud's laughable stance of being the only Transformers-related website on the entire world wide web, with content taken from Transformers.com and images hotlinked from there (to save Renaud the precious bandwidth), deserves mention as far as I'm concerned, and serves to explain what state the site is in these days.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 14:23, 26 August 2009 (EDT)
	:I think that's a fair edit. I was trying (emphasis on trying there rather than succeeding perhaps) to remain neutral on the subject, but felt the previous iteration of the paragraph was far too biased against the board. But as a user of the board, I'd like to point out that 'the existence of other sites' isn't 'ignored', it's just felt that if they're all so against the site, then there's no point talking about, linking to them or supporting them. [[User:Danja\|Danja]] 04:10, 29 August 2009 (EDT)		:I think that's a fair edit. I was trying (emphasis on trying there rather than succeeding perhaps) to remain neutral on the subject, but felt the previous iteration of the paragraph was far too biased against the board. But as a user of the board, I'd like to point out that 'the existence of other sites' isn't 'ignored', it's just felt that if they're all so against the site, then there's no point talking about, linking to them or supporting them. [[User:Danja\|Danja]] 04:10, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
			::And, ironically, the reason "other stoes are all so against this site" ''is'' because of its isolationist stance. It's kinda like North Korea.
			::Seibertron is often made fun of. And yet Ryan has no problem linking to other sites when appropriate. "They don't like us so we don't ever mention them" is kinda like a self-fullfilling prophecy, don't you think?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 08:08, 30 August 2009 (EDT)

Danja: /* Bigbot and Bottalk */

2009-08-29T08:10:13Z

Bigbot and Bottalk

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	[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Fandom&diff=355650&oldid=343131 This edit] reads like pro-Bottalk whitewash to me. I've incorporated some of it and changed it into [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Fandom&diff=356897&oldid=355650 this]. I know we shouldn't delve too much into fandom drama, but Renaud's laughable stance of being the only Transformers-related website on the entire world wide web, with content taken from Transformers.com and images hotlinked from there (to save Renaud the precious bandwidth), deserves mention as far as I'm concerned, and serves to explain what state the site is in these days.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 14:23, 26 August 2009 (EDT)		[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Fandom&diff=355650&oldid=343131 This edit] reads like pro-Bottalk whitewash to me. I've incorporated some of it and changed it into [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Fandom&diff=356897&oldid=355650 this]. I know we shouldn't delve too much into fandom drama, but Renaud's laughable stance of being the only Transformers-related website on the entire world wide web, with content taken from Transformers.com and images hotlinked from there (to save Renaud the precious bandwidth), deserves mention as far as I'm concerned, and serves to explain what state the site is in these days.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 14:23, 26 August 2009 (EDT)
			:I think that's a fair edit. I was trying (emphasis on trying there rather than succeeding perhaps) to remain neutral on the subject, but felt the previous iteration of the paragraph was far too biased against the board. But as a user of the board, I'd like to point out that 'the existence of other sites' isn't 'ignored', it's just felt that if they're all so against the site, then there's no point talking about, linking to them or supporting them. [[User:Danja\|Danja]] 04:10, 29 August 2009 (EDT)

Nevermore: /* Bigbot and Bottalk */ new section

2009-08-26T18:23:26Z

Bigbot and Bottalk: new section

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	:Lil' Formers is sort of a grey area, but I would prefer not to post anything from Moylan that wasn't published in the newsletter, just for the sake of sticking to our "official images only" thing. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 01:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)		:Lil' Formers is sort of a grey area, but I would prefer not to post anything from Moylan that wasn't published in the newsletter, just for the sake of sticking to our "official images only" thing. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 01:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

			== Bigbot and Bottalk ==

			[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Fandom&diff=355650&oldid=343131 This edit] reads like pro-Bottalk whitewash to me. I've incorporated some of it and changed it into [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Fandom&diff=356897&oldid=355650 this]. I know we shouldn't delve too much into fandom drama, but Renaud's laughable stance of being the only Transformers-related website on the entire world wide web, with content taken from Transformers.com and images hotlinked from there (to save Renaud the precious bandwidth), deserves mention as far as I'm concerned, and serves to explain what state the site is in these days.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 14:23, 26 August 2009 (EDT)

Deceptitran: /* Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 - */

2009-03-24T13:52:00Z

Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 -

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	http://www.lilformers.com/comic0029.php (with Mat Moylan accord, of course).		http://www.lilformers.com/comic0029.php (with Mat Moylan accord, of course).

	:Lil' Formers is sort of a grey area, but I would prefer not to post anything from Moylan that wasn't published in the newsletter, just for the sake of sticking to our "official images only" thing. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 01:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		:Lil' Formers is sort of a grey area, but I would prefer not to post anything from Moylan that wasn't published in the newsletter, just for the sake of sticking to our "official images only" thing. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 01:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

ItsWalky: /* Other candidates */

2007-12-23T00:56:28Z

Other candidates

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	Oh, also, if Chris McFeeley was a consultant on the UK DVDs, he should go here too.--[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 14:53, 8 August 2007 (UTC)		Oh, also, if Chris McFeeley was a consultant on the UK DVDs, he should go here too.--[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 14:53, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
			: Hasn't Eric W Schwartz done an official illustration or two? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 00:56, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

	== Head image ==		== Head image ==

Steve-o: /* Head image */

2007-08-23T01:34:43Z

Head image

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	Do you think it would be appropriate (and OK) to put this image of Lilformers as a head image?:		Do you think it would be appropriate (and OK) to put this image of Lilformers as a head image?:
	http://www.lilformers.com/comic0029.php (with Mat Moylan accord, of course).<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		http://www.lilformers.com/comic0029.php (with Mat Moylan accord, of course).

			:Lil' Formers is sort of a grey area, but I would prefer not to post anything from Moylan that wasn't published in the newsletter, just for the sake of sticking to our "official images only" thing. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 01:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	I dunno. While the information there is accurate, I'm not sure what it ''says'' and thus uncertain as to whether it needs to be in the article. I mean, it basically says "the fandom's mindset is hard to pin down. They never agree on anything, except when they do. They hate change, except when they like it, and they don't enjoy being made fun of, except when they do." --[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian\|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 19:57, 16 September 2009 (EDT)		I dunno. While the information there is accurate, I'm not sure what it ''says'' and thus uncertain as to whether it needs to be in the article. I mean, it basically says "the fandom's mindset is hard to pin down. They never agree on anything, except when they do. They hate change, except when they like it, and they don't enjoy being made fun of, except when they do." --[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian\|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 19:57, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
	:In short, fandom is not monolithic. A few issues gain vast majority support, but otherwise, it is quite diverse, more so than most casual fans or non-fans might suspect.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 20:32, 16 September 2009 (EDT)		:In short, fandom is not monolithic. A few issues gain vast majority support, but otherwise, it is quite diverse, more so than most casual fans or non-fans might suspect.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 20:32, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
			::It's also supposed to give the uninformed reader some examples of what exactly it is these fans debate about. Saying "The fans often disagree" is one thing. Explicitly saying that there are fans who prefer X over Y makes it more accessible.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] 03:53, 17 September 2009 (EDT)