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AzimuthAcolyte: /* What to do with "Generation 1 (Japanese toyline)" */

2025-07-13T18:01:30Z

What to do with "Generation 1 (Japanese toyline)"

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	==What to do with "Generation 1 (Japanese toyline)"==		==What to do with "Generation 1 (Japanese toyline)"==
	See [[Talk:Generation 1 (Japanese toyline)\|HERE]] for discussion. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 14:01, 13 July 2025 (EDT)		See [[Talk:Generation 1 (Japanese toyline)#???\|HERE]] for discussion. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 14:01, 13 July 2025 (EDT)

AzimuthAcolyte at 18:01, 13 July 2025

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	Recently, I've noticed that the Japanese names for some Micromasters are wordplay on the american versions. Groundshaker--Landshaker, Skyhopper--Sky Hyper, Detour--Deadhour. Should we add a note onto the pages where this occurs or not?--[[User:ZacAttack\|ZacAttack]] ([[User talk:ZacAttack\|talk]]) 06:36, 14 November 2020 (EST)		Recently, I've noticed that the Japanese names for some Micromasters are wordplay on the american versions. Groundshaker--Landshaker, Skyhopper--Sky Hyper, Detour--Deadhour. Should we add a note onto the pages where this occurs or not?--[[User:ZacAttack\|ZacAttack]] ([[User talk:ZacAttack\|talk]]) 06:36, 14 November 2020 (EST)

			==What to do with "Generation 1 (Japanese toyline)"==
			See [[Talk:Generation 1 (Japanese toyline)\|HERE]] for discussion. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 14:01, 13 July 2025 (EDT)

Cyberlink420: /* Separate toy lines? */

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Separate toy lines?

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	:Popping in 4 years after this change was made to point out that the Masterforce, Victory, and Zone boxes absolutely do have their unique Masterforce, Victory, and Zone logos on them (and I have had to correct that repeatedly on this article). What's done is done, I guess, but I think it's reasonable to suggest that if anyone had noticed this while it was an ongoing conversation there would have been a different outcome. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 16:42, 14 April 2022 (EDT)		:Popping in 4 years after this change was made to point out that the Masterforce, Victory, and Zone boxes absolutely do have their unique Masterforce, Victory, and Zone logos on them (and I have had to correct that repeatedly on this article). What's done is done, I guess, but I think it's reasonable to suggest that if anyone had noticed this while it was an ongoing conversation there would have been a different outcome. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 16:42, 14 April 2022 (EDT)
			::We [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive69#Simplifying Japanese toyline disambigs\|literally just had this discussion again last year]], where you DID bring up the logos on the boxes and it was still decided they were all one line; we don't need to go through it again. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 19:05, 14 April 2022 (EDT)

	== Zone and ROC names ==		== Zone and ROC names ==

	Recently, I've noticed that the Japanese names for some Micromasters are wordplay on the american versions. Groundshaker--Landshaker, Skyhopper--Sky Hyper, Detour--Deadhour. Should we add a note onto the pages where this occurs or not?--[[User:ZacAttack\|ZacAttack]] ([[User talk:ZacAttack\|talk]]) 06:36, 14 November 2020 (EST)		Recently, I've noticed that the Japanese names for some Micromasters are wordplay on the american versions. Groundshaker--Landshaker, Skyhopper--Sky Hyper, Detour--Deadhour. Should we add a note onto the pages where this occurs or not?--[[User:ZacAttack\|ZacAttack]] ([[User talk:ZacAttack\|talk]]) 06:36, 14 November 2020 (EST)

Thylacine 2000: /* Separate toy lines? */

2022-04-14T20:42:46Z

Separate toy lines?

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	::::::::I've given it a shot, still WIP: [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)\|Sandbox]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 14:41, 10 July 2018 (EDT)		::::::::I've given it a shot, still WIP: [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)\|Sandbox]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 14:41, 10 July 2018 (EDT)
	:::::::::Anyone? Proposed major change? Almost done, please chime in now instead of waiting with your objections until after I implement it! [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 16:53, 17 July 2018 (EDT)		:::::::::Anyone? Proposed major change? Almost done, please chime in now instead of waiting with your objections until after I implement it! [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 16:53, 17 July 2018 (EDT)

			:Popping in 4 years after this change was made to point out that the Masterforce, Victory, and Zone boxes absolutely do have their unique Masterforce, Victory, and Zone logos on them (and I have had to correct that repeatedly on this article). What's done is done, I guess, but I think it's reasonable to suggest that if anyone had noticed this while it was an ongoing conversation there would have been a different outcome. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 16:42, 14 April 2022 (EDT)

	== Zone and ROC names ==		== Zone and ROC names ==

	Recently, I've noticed that the Japanese names for some Micromasters are wordplay on the american versions. Groundshaker--Landshaker, Skyhopper--Sky Hyper, Detour--Deadhour. Should we add a note onto the pages where this occurs or not?--[[User:ZacAttack\|ZacAttack]] ([[User talk:ZacAttack\|talk]]) 06:36, 14 November 2020 (EST)		Recently, I've noticed that the Japanese names for some Micromasters are wordplay on the american versions. Groundshaker--Landshaker, Skyhopper--Sky Hyper, Detour--Deadhour. Should we add a note onto the pages where this occurs or not?--[[User:ZacAttack\|ZacAttack]] ([[User talk:ZacAttack\|talk]]) 06:36, 14 November 2020 (EST)

ZacAttack: /* Zone and ROC names */ new section

2020-11-14T11:36:29Z

Zone and ROC names: new section

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	::::::::I've given it a shot, still WIP: [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)\|Sandbox]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 14:41, 10 July 2018 (EDT)		::::::::I've given it a shot, still WIP: [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)\|Sandbox]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 14:41, 10 July 2018 (EDT)
	:::::::::Anyone? Proposed major change? Almost done, please chime in now instead of waiting with your objections until after I implement it! [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 16:53, 17 July 2018 (EDT)		:::::::::Anyone? Proposed major change? Almost done, please chime in now instead of waiting with your objections until after I implement it! [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 16:53, 17 July 2018 (EDT)

			== Zone and ROC names ==

			Recently, I've noticed that the Japanese names for some Micromasters are wordplay on the american versions. Groundshaker--Landshaker, Skyhopper--Sky Hyper, Detour--Deadhour. Should we add a note onto the pages where this occurs or not?--[[User:ZacAttack\|ZacAttack]] ([[User talk:ZacAttack\|talk]]) 06:36, 14 November 2020 (EST)

Nevermore: /* Separate toy lines? */

2018-07-17T20:53:02Z

Separate toy lines?

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	:::::::I wasn't talking about ID numbers. I was talking about the splitting up into individual lines. It's something Takara ''may'' do internally, and which also makes sense from an organizational point of view on our end, since if you don't have Victory, Masterforce, etc toy lines on separate pages, you end up with having to have the franchise navigation send you to a location partway down the "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)" page, and presumably have some sort of franchise navigation there so they can navigate to the cartoon, etc. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 15:45, 28 November 2017 (EST)		:::::::I wasn't talking about ID numbers. I was talking about the splitting up into individual lines. It's something Takara ''may'' do internally, and which also makes sense from an organizational point of view on our end, since if you don't have Victory, Masterforce, etc toy lines on separate pages, you end up with having to have the franchise navigation send you to a location partway down the "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)" page, and presumably have some sort of franchise navigation there so they can navigate to the cartoon, etc. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 15:45, 28 November 2017 (EST)
	::::::::I've given it a shot, still WIP: [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)\|Sandbox]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 14:41, 10 July 2018 (EDT)		::::::::I've given it a shot, still WIP: [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)\|Sandbox]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 14:41, 10 July 2018 (EDT)
			:::::::::Anyone? Proposed major change? Almost done, please chime in now instead of waiting with your objections until after I implement it! [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 16:53, 17 July 2018 (EDT)

Nevermore: /* Separate toy lines? */

2018-07-10T18:41:10Z

Separate toy lines?

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	::::::Waves are a thing that ''exists''. However, the official sorting for Japanese toy lines is by ID number, which aren't listed in the article at all. Basically, we are omitting the official system that exists in favor of forcibly applying Hasbro's system for no apparent reason.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 15:18, 28 November 2017 (EST)		::::::Waves are a thing that ''exists''. However, the official sorting for Japanese toy lines is by ID number, which aren't listed in the article at all. Basically, we are omitting the official system that exists in favor of forcibly applying Hasbro's system for no apparent reason.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 15:18, 28 November 2017 (EST)
	:::::::I wasn't talking about ID numbers. I was talking about the splitting up into individual lines. It's something Takara ''may'' do internally, and which also makes sense from an organizational point of view on our end, since if you don't have Victory, Masterforce, etc toy lines on separate pages, you end up with having to have the franchise navigation send you to a location partway down the "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)" page, and presumably have some sort of franchise navigation there so they can navigate to the cartoon, etc. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 15:45, 28 November 2017 (EST)		:::::::I wasn't talking about ID numbers. I was talking about the splitting up into individual lines. It's something Takara ''may'' do internally, and which also makes sense from an organizational point of view on our end, since if you don't have Victory, Masterforce, etc toy lines on separate pages, you end up with having to have the franchise navigation send you to a location partway down the "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)" page, and presumably have some sort of franchise navigation there so they can navigate to the cartoon, etc. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 15:45, 28 November 2017 (EST)
			::::::::I've given it a shot, still WIP: [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)\|Sandbox]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 14:41, 10 July 2018 (EDT)

Abates: /* Separate toy lines? */

2017-11-28T20:45:05Z

Separate toy lines?

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	:::::Well, I mean wave numbers aren't listed on the packaging either, but we use those. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 14:32, 28 November 2017 (EST)		:::::Well, I mean wave numbers aren't listed on the packaging either, but we use those. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 14:32, 28 November 2017 (EST)
	::::::Waves are a thing that ''exists''. However, the official sorting for Japanese toy lines is by ID number, which aren't listed in the article at all. Basically, we are omitting the official system that exists in favor of forcibly applying Hasbro's system for no apparent reason.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 15:18, 28 November 2017 (EST)		::::::Waves are a thing that ''exists''. However, the official sorting for Japanese toy lines is by ID number, which aren't listed in the article at all. Basically, we are omitting the official system that exists in favor of forcibly applying Hasbro's system for no apparent reason.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 15:18, 28 November 2017 (EST)
			:::::::I wasn't talking about ID numbers. I was talking about the splitting up into individual lines. It's something Takara ''may'' do internally, and which also makes sense from an organizational point of view on our end, since if you don't have Victory, Masterforce, etc toy lines on separate pages, you end up with having to have the franchise navigation send you to a location partway down the "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)" page, and presumably have some sort of franchise navigation there so they can navigate to the cartoon, etc. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 15:45, 28 November 2017 (EST)

Nevermore: /* Separate toy lines? */

2017-11-28T20:18:24Z

Separate toy lines?

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	::::Despite this, my point still stands is that this list in its current form makes no sense since it artificially divides figures into Hasbro assortments, which don't exist in Japan. We don't do that for modern lines.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 07:46, 28 November 2017 (EST)		::::Despite this, my point still stands is that this list in its current form makes no sense since it artificially divides figures into Hasbro assortments, which don't exist in Japan. We don't do that for modern lines.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 07:46, 28 November 2017 (EST)
	:::::Well, I mean wave numbers aren't listed on the packaging either, but we use those. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 14:32, 28 November 2017 (EST)		:::::Well, I mean wave numbers aren't listed on the packaging either, but we use those. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 14:32, 28 November 2017 (EST)
			::::::Waves are a thing that ''exists''. However, the official sorting for Japanese toy lines is by ID number, which aren't listed in the article at all. Basically, we are omitting the official system that exists in favor of forcibly applying Hasbro's system for no apparent reason.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 15:18, 28 November 2017 (EST)

Abates: /* Separate toy lines? */

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Separate toy lines?

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	::::Wouldn't that be akin to "authorial intent"? I thought we always gave packaging branding (or at least uniform packaging ''design'') a higher priority than "how everybody views it out of convenience".		::::Wouldn't that be akin to "authorial intent"? I thought we always gave packaging branding (or at least uniform packaging ''design'') a higher priority than "how everybody views it out of convenience".
	::::Despite this, my point still stands is that this list in its current form makes no sense since it artificially divides figures into Hasbro assortments, which don't exist in Japan. We don't do that for modern lines.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 07:46, 28 November 2017 (EST)		::::Despite this, my point still stands is that this list in its current form makes no sense since it artificially divides figures into Hasbro assortments, which don't exist in Japan. We don't do that for modern lines.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 07:46, 28 November 2017 (EST)
			:::::Well, I mean wave numbers aren't listed on the packaging either, but we use those. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 14:32, 28 November 2017 (EST)

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	::::::::I've given it a shot, still WIP: [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)\|Sandbox]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 14:41, 10 July 2018 (EDT)		::::::::I've given it a shot, still WIP: [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)\|Sandbox]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 14:41, 10 July 2018 (EDT)
	:::::::::Anyone? Proposed major change? Almost done, please chime in now instead of waiting with your objections until after I implement it! [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 16:53, 17 July 2018 (EDT)		:::::::::Anyone? Proposed major change? Almost done, please chime in now instead of waiting with your objections until after I implement it! [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 16:53, 17 July 2018 (EDT)

			:Popping in 4 years after this change was made to point out that the Masterforce, Victory, and Zone boxes absolutely do have their unique Masterforce, Victory, and Zone logos on them (and I have had to correct that repeatedly on this article). What's done is done, I guess, but I think it's reasonable to suggest that if anyone had noticed this while it was an ongoing conversation there would have been a different outcome. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 16:42, 14 April 2022 (EDT)

	== Zone and ROC names ==		== Zone and ROC names ==

	Recently, I've noticed that the Japanese names for some Micromasters are wordplay on the american versions. Groundshaker--Landshaker, Skyhopper--Sky Hyper, Detour--Deadhour. Should we add a note onto the pages where this occurs or not?--[[User:ZacAttack\|ZacAttack]] ([[User talk:ZacAttack\|talk]]) 06:36, 14 November 2020 (EST)		Recently, I've noticed that the Japanese names for some Micromasters are wordplay on the american versions. Groundshaker--Landshaker, Skyhopper--Sky Hyper, Detour--Deadhour. Should we add a note onto the pages where this occurs or not?--[[User:ZacAttack\|ZacAttack]] ([[User talk:ZacAttack\|talk]]) 06:36, 14 November 2020 (EST)

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	:::::::I wasn't talking about ID numbers. I was talking about the splitting up into individual lines. It's something Takara ''may'' do internally, and which also makes sense from an organizational point of view on our end, since if you don't have Victory, Masterforce, etc toy lines on separate pages, you end up with having to have the franchise navigation send you to a location partway down the "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)" page, and presumably have some sort of franchise navigation there so they can navigate to the cartoon, etc. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 15:45, 28 November 2017 (EST)		:::::::I wasn't talking about ID numbers. I was talking about the splitting up into individual lines. It's something Takara ''may'' do internally, and which also makes sense from an organizational point of view on our end, since if you don't have Victory, Masterforce, etc toy lines on separate pages, you end up with having to have the franchise navigation send you to a location partway down the "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)" page, and presumably have some sort of franchise navigation there so they can navigate to the cartoon, etc. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 15:45, 28 November 2017 (EST)
	::::::::I've given it a shot, still WIP: [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)\|Sandbox]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 14:41, 10 July 2018 (EDT)		::::::::I've given it a shot, still WIP: [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)\|Sandbox]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 14:41, 10 July 2018 (EDT)
			:::::::::Anyone? Proposed major change? Almost done, please chime in now instead of waiting with your objections until after I implement it! [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 16:53, 17 July 2018 (EDT)

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	::::::Waves are a thing that ''exists''. However, the official sorting for Japanese toy lines is by ID number, which aren't listed in the article at all. Basically, we are omitting the official system that exists in favor of forcibly applying Hasbro's system for no apparent reason.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 15:18, 28 November 2017 (EST)		::::::Waves are a thing that ''exists''. However, the official sorting for Japanese toy lines is by ID number, which aren't listed in the article at all. Basically, we are omitting the official system that exists in favor of forcibly applying Hasbro's system for no apparent reason.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 15:18, 28 November 2017 (EST)
	:::::::I wasn't talking about ID numbers. I was talking about the splitting up into individual lines. It's something Takara ''may'' do internally, and which also makes sense from an organizational point of view on our end, since if you don't have Victory, Masterforce, etc toy lines on separate pages, you end up with having to have the franchise navigation send you to a location partway down the "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)" page, and presumably have some sort of franchise navigation there so they can navigate to the cartoon, etc. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 15:45, 28 November 2017 (EST)		:::::::I wasn't talking about ID numbers. I was talking about the splitting up into individual lines. It's something Takara ''may'' do internally, and which also makes sense from an organizational point of view on our end, since if you don't have Victory, Masterforce, etc toy lines on separate pages, you end up with having to have the franchise navigation send you to a location partway down the "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)" page, and presumably have some sort of franchise navigation there so they can navigate to the cartoon, etc. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 15:45, 28 November 2017 (EST)
			::::::::I've given it a shot, still WIP: [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)\|Sandbox]]--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 14:41, 10 July 2018 (EDT)

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	:::::Well, I mean wave numbers aren't listed on the packaging either, but we use those. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 14:32, 28 November 2017 (EST)		:::::Well, I mean wave numbers aren't listed on the packaging either, but we use those. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 14:32, 28 November 2017 (EST)
	::::::Waves are a thing that ''exists''. However, the official sorting for Japanese toy lines is by ID number, which aren't listed in the article at all. Basically, we are omitting the official system that exists in favor of forcibly applying Hasbro's system for no apparent reason.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 15:18, 28 November 2017 (EST)		::::::Waves are a thing that ''exists''. However, the official sorting for Japanese toy lines is by ID number, which aren't listed in the article at all. Basically, we are omitting the official system that exists in favor of forcibly applying Hasbro's system for no apparent reason.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 15:18, 28 November 2017 (EST)
			:::::::I wasn't talking about ID numbers. I was talking about the splitting up into individual lines. It's something Takara ''may'' do internally, and which also makes sense from an organizational point of view on our end, since if you don't have Victory, Masterforce, etc toy lines on separate pages, you end up with having to have the franchise navigation send you to a location partway down the "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)" page, and presumably have some sort of franchise navigation there so they can navigate to the cartoon, etc. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 15:45, 28 November 2017 (EST)

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	::::Despite this, my point still stands is that this list in its current form makes no sense since it artificially divides figures into Hasbro assortments, which don't exist in Japan. We don't do that for modern lines.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 07:46, 28 November 2017 (EST)		::::Despite this, my point still stands is that this list in its current form makes no sense since it artificially divides figures into Hasbro assortments, which don't exist in Japan. We don't do that for modern lines.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 07:46, 28 November 2017 (EST)
	:::::Well, I mean wave numbers aren't listed on the packaging either, but we use those. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 14:32, 28 November 2017 (EST)		:::::Well, I mean wave numbers aren't listed on the packaging either, but we use those. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 14:32, 28 November 2017 (EST)
			::::::Waves are a thing that ''exists''. However, the official sorting for Japanese toy lines is by ID number, which aren't listed in the article at all. Basically, we are omitting the official system that exists in favor of forcibly applying Hasbro's system for no apparent reason.--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 15:18, 28 November 2017 (EST)