Talk:Gaia Guardian - Revision history

https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AGaia_Guardian Talk:Gaia Guardian - Revision history 2026-09-13T02:40:33Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Gaia_Guardian&diff=1084688&oldid=prev Khajidha at 14:10, 13 April 2016 2016-04-13T14:10:09Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:10, 13 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l11">Line 11:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::How is he any less complete than the various configurations of live action Devastator or the Classics Devastator or the comics "Prowlastator"? Just as "Devastator" is any combination of Constructicons, it seems that "Defensor" has become any combination of Protectobots.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:51, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::How is he any less complete than the various configurations of live action Devastator or the Classics Devastator or the comics "Prowlastator"? Just as "Devastator" is any combination of Constructicons, it seems that "Defensor" has become any combination of Protectobots.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:51, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::If you're going to treat "God Guardian" as Guardian-with-a-prefix, it doesn't make any sense to not do the same with Gaia Guardian. [[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:29, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::If you're going to treat "God Guardian" as Guardian-with-a-prefix, it doesn't make any sense to not do the same with Gaia Guardian. [[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:29, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Does anyone else think that Medix is more evidence that any combination of Protectobots is Defensor and that Gaia Guardian and God Guardian should be merged with Defensor? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:10, 13 April 2016 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Khajidha https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Gaia_Guardian&diff=986808&oldid=prev Broadside at 15:29, 10 July 2015 2015-07-10T15:29:28Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 15:29, 10 July 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l10">Line 10:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 10:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::Gaia Guardian isn't a complete Defensor - it's a separate combination and deserves its own page. But "God Guardian" is the full Defensor with a new shield and breastplate, and as such should be treated just as a Defensor variant like all the various who-combines-with-who upgrades of UT Prime. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 09:41, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::Gaia Guardian isn't a complete Defensor - it's a separate combination and deserves its own page. But "God Guardian" is the full Defensor with a new shield and breastplate, and as such should be treated just as a Defensor variant like all the various who-combines-with-who upgrades of UT Prime. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 09:41, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::How is he any less complete than the various configurations of live action Devastator or the Classics Devastator or the comics "Prowlastator"? Just as "Devastator" is any combination of Constructicons, it seems that "Defensor" has become any combination of Protectobots.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:51, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::How is he any less complete than the various configurations of live action Devastator or the Classics Devastator or the comics "Prowlastator"? Just as "Devastator" is any combination of Constructicons, it seems that "Defensor" has become any combination of Protectobots.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:51, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::::If you're going to treat "God Guardian" as Guardian-with-a-prefix, it doesn't make any sense to not do the same with Gaia Guardian. [[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:29, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Broadside https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Gaia_Guardian&diff=986805&oldid=prev Khajidha at 13:51, 10 July 2015 2015-07-10T13:51:25Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 13:51, 10 July 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l9">Line 9:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::I think we should reexamine this idea. The fact that we now have a Defensor who includes another character than the original 5 Protectobots while still being the same character seems to me to mean that Defensor is the name of the robot formed by any group of Protectobots. The idea that a combiner has a set group of members has fallen by the wayside in the wake of the live action Devastator. As LV points out, the "Gaia" and "God" prefixes don't seem to mean any more than the prefixes on "God Ginrai", "Tracker Hound", or any of MANY other examples. Derik's point about the "different configurations of Build King or Ruination" seems to me to actually be a point in favor of the merge, as those alternative configurations aren't considered separate beings. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:23, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::I think we should reexamine this idea. The fact that we now have a Defensor who includes another character than the original 5 Protectobots while still being the same character seems to me to mean that Defensor is the name of the robot formed by any group of Protectobots. The idea that a combiner has a set group of members has fallen by the wayside in the wake of the live action Devastator. As LV points out, the "Gaia" and "God" prefixes don't seem to mean any more than the prefixes on "God Ginrai", "Tracker Hound", or any of MANY other examples. Derik's point about the "different configurations of Build King or Ruination" seems to me to actually be a point in favor of the merge, as those alternative configurations aren't considered separate beings. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:23, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::Gaia Guardian isn't a complete Defensor - it's a separate combination and deserves its own page. But "God Guardian" is the full Defensor with a new shield and breastplate, and as such should be treated just as a Defensor variant like all the various who-combines-with-who upgrades of UT Prime. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 09:41, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::Gaia Guardian isn't a complete Defensor - it's a separate combination and deserves its own page. But "God Guardian" is the full Defensor with a new shield and breastplate, and as such should be treated just as a Defensor variant like all the various who-combines-with-who upgrades of UT Prime. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 09:41, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::::How is he any less complete than the various configurations of live action Devastator or the Classics Devastator or the comics "Prowlastator"? Just as "Devastator" is any combination of Constructicons, it seems that "Defensor" has become any combination of Protectobots.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:51, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Khajidha https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Gaia_Guardian&diff=986804&oldid=prev Thylacine 2000 at 13:41, 10 July 2015 2015-07-10T13:41:23Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 13:41, 10 July 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::I agree completely. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:15, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::I agree completely. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:15, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::I think we should reexamine this idea. The fact that we now have a Defensor who includes another character than the original 5 Protectobots while still being the same character seems to me to mean that Defensor is the name of the robot formed by any group of Protectobots. The idea that a combiner has a set group of members has fallen by the wayside in the wake of the live action Devastator. As LV points out, the "Gaia" and "God" prefixes don't seem to mean any more than the prefixes on "God Ginrai", "Tracker Hound", or any of MANY other examples. Derik's point about the "different configurations of Build King or Ruination" seems to me to actually be a point in favor of the merge, as those alternative configurations aren't considered separate beings. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:23, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::I think we should reexamine this idea. The fact that we now have a Defensor who includes another character than the original 5 Protectobots while still being the same character seems to me to mean that Defensor is the name of the robot formed by any group of Protectobots. The idea that a combiner has a set group of members has fallen by the wayside in the wake of the live action Devastator. As LV points out, the "Gaia" and "God" prefixes don't seem to mean any more than the prefixes on "God Ginrai", "Tracker Hound", or any of MANY other examples. Derik's point about the "different configurations of Build King or Ruination" seems to me to actually be a point in favor of the merge, as those alternative configurations aren't considered separate beings. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:23, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::Gaia Guardian isn't a complete Defensor - it's a separate combination and deserves its own page. But "God Guardian" is the full Defensor with a new shield and breastplate, and as such should be treated just as a Defensor variant like all the various who-combines-with-who upgrades of UT Prime. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 09:41, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Thylacine 2000 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Gaia_Guardian&diff=986801&oldid=prev Khajidha at 11:23, 10 July 2015 2015-07-10T11:23:37Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 11:23, 10 July 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l7">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Prefix or not, it's still an actual name. There is no direct English counterpart to "Gaia Guardian", regardless of the source of sections of it, and anything we would come up with would be fanon, just like how "Big Prime" or "[[Comperian|Compersor]]" would be. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:58, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Prefix or not, it's still an actual name. There is no direct English counterpart to "Gaia Guardian", regardless of the source of sections of it, and anything we would come up with would be fanon, just like how "Big Prime" or "[[Comperian|Compersor]]" would be. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:58, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::I agree completely. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:15, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::I agree completely. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:15, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::I think we should reexamine this idea. The fact that we now have a Defensor who includes another character than the original 5 Protectobots while still being the same character seems to me to mean that Defensor is the name of the robot formed by any group of Protectobots. The idea that a combiner has a set group of members has fallen by the wayside in the wake of the live action Devastator. As LV points out, the "Gaia" and "God" prefixes don't seem to mean any more than the prefixes on "God Ginrai", "Tracker Hound", or any of MANY other examples. Derik's point about the "different configurations of Build King or Ruination" seems to me to actually be a point in favor of the merge, as those alternative configurations aren't considered separate beings. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:23, 10 July 2015 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Khajidha https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Gaia_Guardian&diff=682925&oldid=prev Derik at 21:15, 31 January 2012 2012-01-31T21:15:22Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:15, 31 January 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l6">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I '''would''', however, be comfortable with declaring Heatrock and Skyfeather to be Protectobots. That would make Gaia Guardian and God Guardian just two of the configurations the Protectobots can assume, like the different configurations of Build King or Ruination. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:45, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I '''would''', however, be comfortable with declaring Heatrock and Skyfeather to be Protectobots. That would make Gaia Guardian and God Guardian just two of the configurations the Protectobots can assume, like the different configurations of Build King or Ruination. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:45, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Prefix or not, it's still an actual name. There is no direct English counterpart to "Gaia Guardian", regardless of the source of sections of it, and anything we would come up with would be fanon, just like how "Big Prime" or "[[Comperian|Compersor]]" would be. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:58, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Prefix or not, it's still an actual name. There is no direct English counterpart to "Gaia Guardian", regardless of the source of sections of it, and anything we would come up with would be fanon, just like how "Big Prime" or "[[Comperian|Compersor]]" would be. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:58, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::I agree completely. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:15, 31 January 2012 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Derik https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Gaia_Guardian&diff=682919&oldid=prev Interrobang at 20:58, 31 January 2012 2012-01-31T20:58:11Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:58, 31 January 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I'm with Interrobang, Gaia Guardian isn't Defensor any more than [[Abomenaticus]] is [[Abominus]].</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I'm with Interrobang, Gaia Guardian isn't Defensor any more than [[Abomenaticus]] is [[Abominus]].</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I '''would''', however, be comfortable with declaring Heatrock and Skyfeather to be Protectobots. That would make Gaia Guardian and God Guardian just two of the configurations the Protectobots can assume, like the different configurations of Build King or Ruination. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:45, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I '''would''', however, be comfortable with declaring Heatrock and Skyfeather to be Protectobots. That would make Gaia Guardian and God Guardian just two of the configurations the Protectobots can assume, like the different configurations of Build King or Ruination. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:45, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::Prefix or not, it's still an actual name. There is no direct English counterpart to "Gaia Guardian", regardless of the source of sections of it, and anything we would come up with would be fanon, just like how "Big Prime" or "[[Comperian|Compersor]]" would be. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:58, 31 January 2012 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Interrobang https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Gaia_Guardian&diff=682915&oldid=prev Derik: mis-indent 2012-01-31T20:50:30Z

<p>mis-indent</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:50, 31 January 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::It's not changing a character name, dude. It's changing a prefix. "Guardian" has always meant "Defensor". -[[User:LV|LV]] 15:26, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::It's not changing a character name, dude. It's changing a prefix. "Guardian" has always meant "Defensor". -[[User:LV|LV]] 15:26, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</del>:::I'm with Interrobang, Gaia Guardian isn't Defensor any more than [[Abomenaticus]] is [[Abominus]].</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I'm with Interrobang, Gaia Guardian isn't Defensor any more than [[Abomenaticus]] is [[Abominus]].</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</del>:::I '''would''', however, be comfortable with declaring Heatrock and Skyfeather to be Protectobots. That would make Gaia Guardian and God Guardian just two of the configurations the Protectobots can assume, like the different configurations of Build King or Ruination. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:45, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I '''would''', however, be comfortable with declaring Heatrock and Skyfeather to be Protectobots. That would make Gaia Guardian and God Guardian just two of the configurations the Protectobots can assume, like the different configurations of Build King or Ruination. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:45, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td></tr> </table>

Derik https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Gaia_Guardian&diff=682913&oldid=prev Derik at 20:45, 31 January 2012 2012-01-31T20:45:46Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:45, 31 January 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:It's not really our place to change character names for our convenience. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:13, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:It's not really our place to change character names for our convenience. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:13, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::It's not changing a character name, dude. It's changing a prefix. "Guardian" has always meant "Defensor". -[[User:LV|LV]] 15:26, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::It's not changing a character name, dude. It's changing a prefix. "Guardian" has always meant "Defensor". -[[User:LV|LV]] 15:26, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::I'm with Interrobang, Gaia Guardian isn't Defensor any more than [[Abomenaticus]] is [[Abominus]].</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::I '''would''', however, be comfortable with declaring Heatrock and Skyfeather to be Protectobots. That would make Gaia Guardian and God Guardian just two of the configurations the Protectobots can assume, like the different configurations of Build King or Ruination. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:45, 31 January 2012 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Derik https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Gaia_Guardian&diff=682894&oldid=prev LV at 20:26, 31 January 2012 2012-01-31T20:26:29Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:26, 31 January 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I know I know, plenty of Convoys and whatnot, but it's going to seem really weird for, say, Groove's intro paragraph to say that he's a component of Defensor, Gaia Guardian and God Guardian. Surely we can "translate" the "Guardian" part of the name to "Defensor" in non-toy-based parts of articles? -[[User:LV|LV]] 14:39, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I know I know, plenty of Convoys and whatnot, but it's going to seem really weird for, say, Groove's intro paragraph to say that he's a component of Defensor, Gaia Guardian and God Guardian. Surely we can "translate" the "Guardian" part of the name to "Defensor" in non-toy-based parts of articles? -[[User:LV|LV]] 14:39, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:It's not really our place to change character names for our convenience. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:13, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:It's not really our place to change character names for our convenience. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:13, 31 January 2012 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::It's not changing a character name, dude. It's changing a prefix. "Guardian" has always meant "Defensor". -[[User:LV|LV]] 15:26, 31 January 2012 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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