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	:Normal Galvatron can be in toy colors, like the one who was in the Marvel UK material, so I'd imagine he's just normal Galvatron, unless there's some strong evidence otherwise. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 23:51, 22 March 2012 (EDT)		:Normal Galvatron can be in toy colors, like the one who was in the Marvel UK material, so I'd imagine he's just normal Galvatron, unless there's some strong evidence otherwise. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 23:51, 22 March 2012 (EDT)
	::Do we have that series documented on the wiki? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:38, 8 December 2012 (EST)		::Do we have that series documented on the wiki? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:38, 8 December 2012 (EST)

			== "Note: These are the only toys explicitly identified as representing Galvatron II. " ==

			Where was ''Selects'' Galvatron established to be Galvatron II? — [[User:TheLastGherkin\|TheLastGherkin]] ([[User talk:TheLastGherkin\|talk]]) 04:41, 28 November 2025 (EST)

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	:::::There's lots of little things that support this, not the least of which is that one of the Firecons dies early in Earthforce continuity and then again in #80 of the US series-- the branch was prior to that death.		:::::There's lots of little things that support this, not the least of which is that one of the Firecons dies early in Earthforce continuity and then again in #80 of the US series-- the branch was prior to that death.
	::::: (Honestly, the continuity split-out was pretty consistent under-the-hood, Furman obviously thought out the mechanics of how it had happened, he just never explained it on-paper.) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:35, 8 December 2012 (EST)		::::: (Honestly, the continuity split-out was pretty consistent under-the-hood, Furman obviously thought out the mechanics of how it had happened, he just never explained it on-paper.) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:35, 8 December 2012 (EST)
	::::::I'm actually wondering, post-RG1 (and FP's Classics)... should we regard pre-Earthforce US/UK as one basically-continuous timeline ''at all'' any more, as opposed to "here's ~~[[Earth-91274\|~~the US continuity]] (Marvel US #1-80, Headmasters, GIJoe & TF...), and here's ~~[[Earth-120185\|~~the UK continuity]], which includes ''most of'' the US stuff up to the start of Earthforce, albeit not precisely, and then goes its own way, including Fleetway G2." After all, US G2 spins out of a GIJoe series continuity which includes the GIJoe & TF miniseries that's explicitly not part of Marvel UK continuity, and both Classics & RG1 explicitly don't include it in their histories. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 22:00, 8 December 2012 (EST)		::::::I'm actually wondering, post-RG1 (and FP's Classics)... should we regard pre-Earthforce US/UK as one basically-continuous timeline ''at all'' any more, as opposed to "here's the US continuity (Marvel US #1-80, Headmasters, GIJoe & TF...), and here's the UK continuity, which includes ''most of'' the US stuff up to the start of Earthforce, albeit not precisely, and then goes its own way, including Fleetway G2." After all, US G2 spins out of a GIJoe series continuity which includes the GIJoe & TF miniseries that's explicitly not part of Marvel UK continuity, and both Classics & RG1 explicitly don't include it in their histories. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 22:00, 8 December 2012 (EST)

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	:::::There's lots of little things that support this, not the least of which is that one of the Firecons dies early in Earthforce continuity and then again in #80 of the US series-- the branch was prior to that death.		:::::There's lots of little things that support this, not the least of which is that one of the Firecons dies early in Earthforce continuity and then again in #80 of the US series-- the branch was prior to that death.
	::::: (Honestly, the continuity split-out was pretty consistent under-the-hood, Furman obviously thought out the mechanics of how it had happened, he just never explained it on-paper.) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:35, 8 December 2012 (EST)		::::: (Honestly, the continuity split-out was pretty consistent under-the-hood, Furman obviously thought out the mechanics of how it had happened, he just never explained it on-paper.) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:35, 8 December 2012 (EST)
			::::::I'm actually wondering, post-RG1 (and FP's Classics)... should we regard pre-Earthforce US/UK as one basically-continuous timeline ''at all'' any more, as opposed to "here's [[Earth-91274\|the US continuity]] (Marvel US #1-80, Headmasters, GIJoe & TF...), and here's [[Earth-120185\|the UK continuity]], which includes ''most of'' the US stuff up to the start of Earthforce, albeit not precisely, and then goes its own way, including Fleetway G2." After all, US G2 spins out of a GIJoe series continuity which includes the GIJoe & TF miniseries that's explicitly not part of Marvel UK continuity, and both Classics & RG1 explicitly don't include it in their histories. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 22:00, 8 December 2012 (EST)
	::::::I'm actually wondering, post-RG1 (and FP's Classics)... should we regard pre-Earthforce US/UK as one basically-continuous timeline ''at all'' any more, as opposed to "here's the US continuity (Marvel US #1-80, Headmasters, GIJoe & TF...), and here's the UK continuity, which includes ''most of'' the US stuff up to the start of Earthforce and then goes its own way, including Fleetway G2." After all, US G2 spins out of a GIJoe series continuity which includes the GIJoe & TF miniseries that's explicitly not part of Marvel UK continuity, and both Classics & RG1 explicitly don't include it in their histories. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 22:00, 8 December 2012 (EST)

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	:::::There's lots of little things that support this, not the least of which is that one of the Firecons dies early in Earthforce continuity and then again in #80 of the US series-- the branch was prior to that death.		:::::There's lots of little things that support this, not the least of which is that one of the Firecons dies early in Earthforce continuity and then again in #80 of the US series-- the branch was prior to that death.
	::::: (Honestly, the continuity split-out was pretty consistent under-the-hood, Furman obviously thought out the mechanics of how it had happened, he just never explained it on-paper.) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:35, 8 December 2012 (EST)		::::: (Honestly, the continuity split-out was pretty consistent under-the-hood, Furman obviously thought out the mechanics of how it had happened, he just never explained it on-paper.) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:35, 8 December 2012 (EST)

			::::::I'm actually wondering, post-RG1 (and FP's Classics)... should we regard pre-Earthforce US/UK as one basically-continuous timeline ''at all'' any more, as opposed to "here's the US continuity (Marvel US #1-80, Headmasters, GIJoe & TF...), and here's the UK continuity, which includes ''most of'' the US stuff up to the start of Earthforce and then goes its own way, including Fleetway G2." After all, US G2 spins out of a GIJoe series continuity which includes the GIJoe & TF miniseries that's explicitly not part of Marvel UK continuity, and both Classics & RG1 explicitly don't include it in their histories. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 22:00, 8 December 2012 (EST)

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Derik: /* That last trivia note */

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	In one of the Japanese childrens book series (Kodansha no Terebi Ehon #93), the Galvatron appearing is in his toy colors all the way through. There are not two different Galvatrons within the story. Could this be considered an appearance of II, or just normal Galvatron in toy colors? [[User:HydraDW\|HydraDW]] 23:35, 22 March 2012 (EDT)		In one of the Japanese childrens book series (Kodansha no Terebi Ehon #93), the Galvatron appearing is in his toy colors all the way through. There are not two different Galvatrons within the story. Could this be considered an appearance of II, or just normal Galvatron in toy colors? [[User:HydraDW\|HydraDW]] 23:35, 22 March 2012 (EDT)
	:Normal Galvatron can be in toy colors, like the one who was in the Marvel UK material, so I'd imagine he's just normal Galvatron, unless there's some strong evidence otherwise. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 23:51, 22 March 2012 (EDT)		:Normal Galvatron can be in toy colors, like the one who was in the Marvel UK material, so I'd imagine he's just normal Galvatron, unless there's some strong evidence otherwise. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 23:51, 22 March 2012 (EDT)
			::Do we have that series documented on the wiki? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:38, 8 December 2012 (EST)

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	:::: I say the Titan trade is in error in making that statement. At no point does the Galvatron from Rhythms of Darkness have the oppurtunity or ability to travel to yet another timeline. For the statement from Titan to be believed, further sleuthing is in order. Just how and when was it possible for Galvatron to travel to the Earthforce continuity? The comics don't support Titan's statement. [[User:BassX0\|BassX0]] 14:51, 8 December 2012 (EST)		:::: I say the Titan trade is in error in making that statement. At no point does the Galvatron from Rhythms of Darkness have the oppurtunity or ability to travel to yet another timeline. For the statement from Titan to be believed, further sleuthing is in order. Just how and when was it possible for Galvatron to travel to the Earthforce continuity? The comics don't support Titan's statement. [[User:BassX0\|BassX0]] 14:51, 8 December 2012 (EST)
	:::::You're assuming he jumped to it. Why not assume the Earthforce timeline branched off after Unicron had already brought him back in time? It makes far more sense, as I theorized above two years ago. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 14:54, 8 December 2012 (EST)		:::::You're assuming he jumped to it. Why not assume the Earthforce timeline branched off after Unicron had already brought him back in time? It makes far more sense, as I theorized above two years ago. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 14:54, 8 December 2012 (EST)
			:::::I dont' remember the specifics... but when we were putting together one of the continuity pages there was a long discussion about the Earthforce thing and we concluded it was a branch timeline that broke off after Galvatron was taken back but before Unicron sent Galvatron to Cybertron. (Which in turn resulted in Unicron having to change his route to Cybertron and arrive in 1991 and not 2005 when he realized that Galvatron had gone off the grid with Xaaron.)
			:::::There's lots of little things that support this, not the least of which is that one of the Firecons dies early in Earthforce continuity and then again in #80 of the US series-- the branch was prior to that death.
			::::: (Honestly, the continuity split-out was pretty consistent under-the-hood, Furman obviously thought out the mechanics of how it had happened, he just never explained it on-paper.) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:35, 8 December 2012 (EST)

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	:::Nice sleuthing, wiki-folk!--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 17:34, 23 January 2010 (EST)		:::Nice sleuthing, wiki-folk!--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 17:34, 23 January 2010 (EST)
	:::: I say the Titan trade is in error in making that statement. At no point does the Galvatron from Rhythms of Darkness have the oppurtunity or ability to travel to yet another timeline. For the statement from Titan to be believed, further sleuthing is in order. Just how and when was it possible for Galvatron to travel to the Earthforce continuity? The comics don't support Titan's statement. [[User:BassX0\|BassX0]] 14:51, 8 December 2012 (EST)		:::: I say the Titan trade is in error in making that statement. At no point does the Galvatron from Rhythms of Darkness have the oppurtunity or ability to travel to yet another timeline. For the statement from Titan to be believed, further sleuthing is in order. Just how and when was it possible for Galvatron to travel to the Earthforce continuity? The comics don't support Titan's statement. [[User:BassX0\|BassX0]] 14:51, 8 December 2012 (EST)
			:::::You're assuming he jumped to it. Why not assume the Earthforce timeline branched off after Unicron had already brought him back in time? It makes far more sense, as I theorized above two years ago. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 14:54, 8 December 2012 (EST)

	==That last trivia note==		==That last trivia note==

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	::Yeah, that seals it. The Dinobot Hunt trade says that the PtD Galvatron "is the alternate-reality Galvatron from US #67." So. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:52, 23 January 2010 (EST)		::Yeah, that seals it. The Dinobot Hunt trade says that the PtD Galvatron "is the alternate-reality Galvatron from US #67." So. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:52, 23 January 2010 (EST)
	:::Nice sleuthing, wiki-folk!--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 17:34, 23 January 2010 (EST)		:::Nice sleuthing, wiki-folk!--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 17:34, 23 January 2010 (EST)
			:::: I say the Titan trade is in error in making that statement. At no point does the Galvatron from Rhythms of Darkness have the oppurtunity or ability to travel to yet another timeline. For the statement from Titan to be believed, further sleuthing is in order. Just how and when was it possible for Galvatron to travel to the Earthforce continuity? The comics don't support Titan's statement. [[User:BassX0\|BassX0]] 14:51, 8 December 2012 (EST)

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	In one of the Japanese childrens book series (Kodansha no Terebi Ehon #93), the Galvatron appearing is in his toy colors all the way through. There are not two different Galvatrons within the story. Could this be considered an appearance of II, or just normal Galvatron in toy colors? [[User:HydraDW\|HydraDW]] 23:35, 22 March 2012 (EDT)		In one of the Japanese childrens book series (Kodansha no Terebi Ehon #93), the Galvatron appearing is in his toy colors all the way through. There are not two different Galvatrons within the story. Could this be considered an appearance of II, or just normal Galvatron in toy colors? [[User:HydraDW\|HydraDW]] 23:35, 22 March 2012 (EDT)
			:Normal Galvatron can be in toy colors, like the one who was in the Marvel UK material, so I'd imagine he's just normal Galvatron, unless there's some strong evidence otherwise. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 23:51, 22 March 2012 (EDT)

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	Um, I may be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure that Galvatron II didn't dimension-hop into the timeline before Galvatron I's creation. He dimension-hopped into Japanese G-2, right? Which takes place after Zone in 2015 or so? So, uh, I feel like we need to nix that bit, but I want to be sure. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 24 January 2010 (EST)		Um, I may be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure that Galvatron II didn't dimension-hop into the timeline before Galvatron I's creation. He dimension-hopped into Japanese G-2, right? Which takes place after Zone in 2015 or so? So, uh, I feel like we need to nix that bit, but I want to be sure. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 24 January 2010 (EST)
	:Well, Ichikawa's retcon made it so that the Galvatron who appeared in various story pages alongside Megatron and Prime was a dimension-hopping Galvatron II (we even have a fiction section for it right there) and I don't think any of those story pages were retconned into taking place after G-2. So it looks like Galvatron II did a couple hops. First to the pre-2005 point in the timeline so he could act as Megatron's subordinate in those old story pages, then he either hopped again or took the long way and waited so he coule appear in the post G-2 bios and mini comics. Either way, the Galvatron seen in those story pages was retconned into Galvatron II, and those pages take place pre-2005, so I don't think that trivia note is exactly inaccurate. --[[User:DrSpengler\|DrSpengler]] 08:45, 24 January 2010 (EST)		:Well, Ichikawa's retcon made it so that the Galvatron who appeared in various story pages alongside Megatron and Prime was a dimension-hopping Galvatron II (we even have a fiction section for it right there) and I don't think any of those story pages were retconned into taking place after G-2. So it looks like Galvatron II did a couple hops. First to the pre-2005 point in the timeline so he could act as Megatron's subordinate in those old story pages, then he either hopped again or took the long way and waited so he coule appear in the post G-2 bios and mini comics. Either way, the Galvatron seen in those story pages was retconned into Galvatron II, and those pages take place pre-2005, so I don't think that trivia note is exactly inaccurate. --[[User:DrSpengler\|DrSpengler]] 08:45, 24 January 2010 (EST)

			In one of the Japanese childrens book series (Kodansha no Terebi Ehon #93), the Galvatron appearing is in his toy colors all the way through. There are not two different Galvatrons within the story. Could this be considered an appearance of II, or just normal Galvatron in toy colors? [[User:HydraDW\|HydraDW]] 23:35, 22 March 2012 (EDT)

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	In one of the Japanese childrens book series (Kodansha no Terebi Ehon #93), the Galvatron appearing is in his toy colors all the way through. There are not two different Galvatrons within the story. Could this be considered an appearance of II, or just normal Galvatron in toy colors? [[User:HydraDW\|HydraDW]] 23:35, 22 March 2012 (EDT)		In one of the Japanese childrens book series (Kodansha no Terebi Ehon #93), the Galvatron appearing is in his toy colors all the way through. There are not two different Galvatrons within the story. Could this be considered an appearance of II, or just normal Galvatron in toy colors? [[User:HydraDW\|HydraDW]] 23:35, 22 March 2012 (EDT)
	:Normal Galvatron can be in toy colors, like the one who was in the Marvel UK material, so I'd imagine he's just normal Galvatron, unless there's some strong evidence otherwise. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 23:51, 22 March 2012 (EDT)		:Normal Galvatron can be in toy colors, like the one who was in the Marvel UK material, so I'd imagine he's just normal Galvatron, unless there's some strong evidence otherwise. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 23:51, 22 March 2012 (EDT)
			::Do we have that series documented on the wiki? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 16:38, 8 December 2012 (EST)

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	Um, I may be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure that Galvatron II didn't dimension-hop into the timeline before Galvatron I's creation. He dimension-hopped into Japanese G-2, right? Which takes place after Zone in 2015 or so? So, uh, I feel like we need to nix that bit, but I want to be sure. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 24 January 2010 (EST)		Um, I may be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure that Galvatron II didn't dimension-hop into the timeline before Galvatron I's creation. He dimension-hopped into Japanese G-2, right? Which takes place after Zone in 2015 or so? So, uh, I feel like we need to nix that bit, but I want to be sure. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 24 January 2010 (EST)
	:Well, Ichikawa's retcon made it so that the Galvatron who appeared in various story pages alongside Megatron and Prime was a dimension-hopping Galvatron II (we even have a fiction section for it right there) and I don't think any of those story pages were retconned into taking place after G-2. So it looks like Galvatron II did a couple hops. First to the pre-2005 point in the timeline so he could act as Megatron's subordinate in those old story pages, then he either hopped again or took the long way and waited so he coule appear in the post G-2 bios and mini comics. Either way, the Galvatron seen in those story pages was retconned into Galvatron II, and those pages take place pre-2005, so I don't think that trivia note is exactly inaccurate. --[[User:DrSpengler\|DrSpengler]] 08:45, 24 January 2010 (EST)		:Well, Ichikawa's retcon made it so that the Galvatron who appeared in various story pages alongside Megatron and Prime was a dimension-hopping Galvatron II (we even have a fiction section for it right there) and I don't think any of those story pages were retconned into taking place after G-2. So it looks like Galvatron II did a couple hops. First to the pre-2005 point in the timeline so he could act as Megatron's subordinate in those old story pages, then he either hopped again or took the long way and waited so he coule appear in the post G-2 bios and mini comics. Either way, the Galvatron seen in those story pages was retconned into Galvatron II, and those pages take place pre-2005, so I don't think that trivia note is exactly inaccurate. --[[User:DrSpengler\|DrSpengler]] 08:45, 24 January 2010 (EST)

			In one of the Japanese childrens book series (Kodansha no Terebi Ehon #93), the Galvatron appearing is in his toy colors all the way through. There are not two different Galvatrons within the story. Could this be considered an appearance of II, or just normal Galvatron in toy colors? [[User:HydraDW\|HydraDW]] 23:35, 22 March 2012 (EDT)