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	::{{disambig2\|the maker of Mankind\|used as an adjective\|God}}		::{{disambig2\|the maker of Mankind\|used as an adjective\|God}}
	::''God is a [[god]] in the [[Generation 1 (franchise)\|Generation 1]] and [[~~Movie~~ (franchise)\|Movie]] [[continuity family\|continuity families]].''		::''God is a [[god]] in the [[Generation 1 (franchise)\|Generation 1]] and [[Transformers (2007 franchise)\|Movie]] [[continuity family\|continuity families]].''
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	::'''God''' is the creator of [[human\|mankind]]. He may have, directly or indirectly, given [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]] the ability to [[Transformation\|transform]].		::'''God''' is the creator of [[human\|mankind]]. He may have, directly or indirectly, given [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]] the ability to [[Transformation\|transform]].

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Abates: /* Why only the Christian interpretation? */

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Why only the Christian interpretation?

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	== Why only the Christian interpretation? ==		== Why only the Christian interpretation? ==
	There are more supposed avatars or incarnations of God (or son thereof) other than Jesus. Bahá'u'lláh? Arnold Potter? Apollyonus? Krishna? The Buddha? Horus? Also, I'd like to point out that the Bible never designates December 25th as the birth day of Jesus (if he ever existed). December 25th was the birthday of many Pagan gods that predate the Jesus myth, yet this page doesn't mention any of these deities. Really, Christianity is only one religion of many. Either give other religions a minor mention, or the Jesus/December 25th thing is completely unnecessary. Just a minor suggestion which I think may improve the page. Otherwise, this page doesn't even need to exist (someone prove me wrong on this point, however).		There are more supposed avatars or incarnations of God (or son thereof) other than Jesus. Bahá'u'lláh? Arnold Potter? Apollyonus? Krishna? The Buddha? Horus? Also, I'd like to point out that the Bible never designates December 25th as the birth day of Jesus (if he ever existed). December 25th was the birthday of many Pagan gods that predate the Jesus myth, yet this page doesn't mention any of these deities. Really, Christianity is only one religion of many. Either give other religions a minor mention, or the Jesus/December 25th thing is completely unnecessary. Just a minor suggestion which I think may improve the page. Otherwise, this page doesn't even need to exist (someone prove me wrong on this point, however). {{unsigned\|64.252.183.157}}
	:Well, this article deals with god from a fictional point of view and the only one that's come up in fiction has been the judeo-christian monodeity, so... --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 17:54, 16 December 2011 (EST)		:Well, this article deals with god from a fictional point of view and the only one that's come up in fiction has been the judeo-christian monodeity, so... --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 17:54, 16 December 2011 (EST)
			::Yeah, if we started adding stuff from outside Transformers canon, this article would no longer be useful for learning ''about'' Transformers canon. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 17:58, 16 December 2011 (EST)

Detour: /* Why only the Christian interpretation? */

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Why only the Christian interpretation?

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	== Why only the Christian interpretation? ==		== Why only the Christian interpretation? ==
	There are more supposed avatars or incarnations of God (or son thereof) other than Jesus. Bahá'u'lláh? Arnold Potter? Apollyonus? Krishna? The Buddha? Horus? Also, I'd like to point out that the Bible never designates December 25th as the birth day of Jesus (if he ever existed). December 25th was the birthday of many Pagan gods that predate the Jesus myth, yet this page doesn't mention any of these deities. Really, Christianity is only one religion of many. Either give other religions a minor mention, or the Jesus/December 25th thing is completely unnecessary. Just a minor suggestion which I think may improve the page. Otherwise, this page doesn't even need to exist (someone prove me wrong on this point, however).		There are more supposed avatars or incarnations of God (or son thereof) other than Jesus. Bahá'u'lláh? Arnold Potter? Apollyonus? Krishna? The Buddha? Horus? Also, I'd like to point out that the Bible never designates December 25th as the birth day of Jesus (if he ever existed). December 25th was the birthday of many Pagan gods that predate the Jesus myth, yet this page doesn't mention any of these deities. Really, Christianity is only one religion of many. Either give other religions a minor mention, or the Jesus/December 25th thing is completely unnecessary. Just a minor suggestion which I think may improve the page. Otherwise, this page doesn't even need to exist (someone prove me wrong on this point, however).
			:Well, this article deals with god from a fictional point of view and the only one that's come up in fiction has been the judeo-christian monodeity, so... --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 17:54, 16 December 2011 (EST)

64.252.183.157: On the Jesus and December 25th thing. Why neglect to mention religions outside of Christianity?

2011-12-16T22:43:17Z

On the Jesus and December 25th thing. Why neglect to mention religions outside of Christianity?

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	:So far as I can tell, it's a fan character. I can't find any evidence of them appearing in official material. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 20:18, 25 March 2010 (EDT)		:So far as I can tell, it's a fan character. I can't find any evidence of them appearing in official material. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 20:18, 25 March 2010 (EDT)
	::Yes, that's exactly my problem. I looked it up again - she said Megadyne made his appearance in 1985 Transformers 'Metatisic' saga and that he was the Decepticon counterpart of Primus. Nobody knows what 'Metatisic' is, she doesn't answer my question and apparently nothing can be found about this so called official material. Maybe she really just made something up for reasons unknown... --[[Special:Contributions/212.183.117.184\|212.183.117.184]] 16:30, 4 April 2010 (EDT)		::Yes, that's exactly my problem. I looked it up again - she said Megadyne made his appearance in 1985 Transformers 'Metatisic' saga and that he was the Decepticon counterpart of Primus. Nobody knows what 'Metatisic' is, she doesn't answer my question and apparently nothing can be found about this so called official material. Maybe she really just made something up for reasons unknown... --[[Special:Contributions/212.183.117.184\|212.183.117.184]] 16:30, 4 April 2010 (EDT)

			== Why only the Christian interpretation? ==
			There are more supposed avatars or incarnations of God (or son thereof) other than Jesus. Bahá'u'lláh? Arnold Potter? Apollyonus? Krishna? The Buddha? Horus? Also, I'd like to point out that the Bible never designates December 25th as the birth day of Jesus (if he ever existed). December 25th was the birthday of many Pagan gods that predate the Jesus myth, yet this page doesn't mention any of these deities. Really, Christianity is only one religion of many. Either give other religions a minor mention, or the Jesus/December 25th thing is completely unnecessary. Just a minor suggestion which I think may improve the page. Otherwise, this page doesn't even need to exist (someone prove me wrong on this point, however).

212.183.117.184: /* Who is Megadyne? */

2010-04-04T20:30:05Z

Who is Megadyne?

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	Yes, I've been wondering about him a while now. I was told that he's a not so well known god who appeared in official material almost nobody knows about, but he doesn't even seem to be mentioned anywhere on this wiki or google. So who is he? --[[Special:Contributions/91.113.118.119\|91.113.118.119]] 19:39, 25 March 2010 (EDT)		Yes, I've been wondering about him a while now. I was told that he's a not so well known god who appeared in official material almost nobody knows about, but he doesn't even seem to be mentioned anywhere on this wiki or google. So who is he? --[[Special:Contributions/91.113.118.119\|91.113.118.119]] 19:39, 25 March 2010 (EDT)
	:So far as I can tell, it's a fan character. I can't find any evidence of them appearing in official material. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 20:18, 25 March 2010 (EDT)		:So far as I can tell, it's a fan character. I can't find any evidence of them appearing in official material. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 20:18, 25 March 2010 (EDT)
			::Yes, that's exactly my problem. I looked it up again - she said Megadyne made his appearance in 1985 Transformers 'Metatisic' saga and that he was the Decepticon counterpart of Primus. Nobody knows what 'Metatisic' is, she doesn't answer my question and apparently nothing can be found about this so called official material. Maybe she really just made something up for reasons unknown... --[[Special:Contributions/212.183.117.184\|212.183.117.184]] 16:30, 4 April 2010 (EDT)

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 :::Yea, I wasn't very clear. I meant "Super-God Masterforce," "God Ginrai," "Godmaster," and "Godbomber" types of things. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:47, 3 October 2009 (EDT)
 ::::Oh, as part of TF names!  Yes, in that case, all of the above except "super-god" use the English word "god" as part of the names.  "Super-god" is a literal translation of "chōjin" (超神).--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:47, 3 October 2009 (EDT)

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			== Who is Megadyne? ==
			Yes, I've been wondering about him a while now. I was told that he's a not so well known god who appeared in official material almost nobody knows about, but he doesn't even seem to be mentioned anywhere on this wiki or google. So who is he? --[[Special:Contributions/91.113.118.119\|91.113.118.119]] 19:39, 25 March 2010 (EDT)


			== God ==

	How should we treat Epps' question in ROTF? - "You gotta wonder. If God made Man in his image, who made him?" This seems similar to Sam's "What would Jesus do?" question in the first film, so should God get his own page too? Not to mention that God was also mentioned in Masterforce episode 14, where Ginrai's friend Sam mentions that Ginrai's powers must've come from God. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 09:58, 3 October 2009 (EDT)		How should we treat Epps' question in ROTF? - "You gotta wonder. If God made Man in his image, who made him?" This seems similar to Sam's "What would Jesus do?" question in the first film, so should God get his own page too? Not to mention that God was also mentioned in Masterforce episode 14, where Ginrai's friend Sam mentions that Ginrai's powers must've come from God. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 09:58, 3 October 2009 (EDT)

Apcog: /* Japan */

2009-10-04T03:47:14Z

Japan

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	Stupid question: Is "god" as Japan uses it all over the place a translation from English or are they using the English word "god"? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 21:24, 3 October 2009 (EDT)		Stupid question: Is "god" as Japan uses it all over the place a translation from English or are they using the English word "god"? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 21:24, 3 October 2009 (EDT)
	:They're using the English word. {{unsigned\|173.71.84.186}}		:They're using the English word. {{unsigned\|173.71.84.186}}
	::How did you decided that? I've generally seen Primus referred to as the "creator" or "god", but with the Japanese equivalent words. Of course, you say "all over the place," Starfield, which means ANY use of the term "god", whether it refers to Primus or not, whether it's in a TF-related context or not. I'm guessing you meant strictly in relation to Primus. (I don't believe "god" has ever been used in reference to Unicron in Japan.)--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 22:37, 3 October 2009 (EDT)		::How did you decided that? I've generally seen Primus referred to as the "creator" or "god", but with the Japanese equivalent words.
			::Of course, you say "all over the place," Starfield, which means ANY use of the term "god", whether it refers to Primus or not, whether it's in a TF-related context or not. I'm guessing you meant strictly in relation to Primus. (I don't believe "god" has ever been used in reference to Unicron in Japan.)--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 22:37, 3 October 2009 (EDT)
	:::Yea, I wasn't very clear. I meant "Super-God Masterforce," "God Ginrai," "Godmaster," and "Godbomber" types of things. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 22:47, 3 October 2009 (EDT)		:::Yea, I wasn't very clear. I meant "Super-God Masterforce," "God Ginrai," "Godmaster," and "Godbomber" types of things. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 22:47, 3 October 2009 (EDT)
			::::Oh, as part of TF names! Yes, in that case, all of the above except "super-god" use the English word "god" as part of the names. "Super-god" is a literal translation of "chōjin" (超神).--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 23:47, 3 October 2009 (EDT)

Starfield: /* Japan */

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Japan

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	:They're using the English word. {{unsigned\|173.71.84.186}}		:They're using the English word. {{unsigned\|173.71.84.186}}
	::How did you decided that? I've generally seen Primus referred to as the "creator" or "god", but with the Japanese equivalent words. Of course, you say "all over the place," Starfield, which means ANY use of the term "god", whether it refers to Primus or not, whether it's in a TF-related context or not. I'm guessing you meant strictly in relation to Primus. (I don't believe "god" has ever been used in reference to Unicron in Japan.)--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 22:37, 3 October 2009 (EDT)		::How did you decided that? I've generally seen Primus referred to as the "creator" or "god", but with the Japanese equivalent words. Of course, you say "all over the place," Starfield, which means ANY use of the term "god", whether it refers to Primus or not, whether it's in a TF-related context or not. I'm guessing you meant strictly in relation to Primus. (I don't believe "god" has ever been used in reference to Unicron in Japan.)--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 22:37, 3 October 2009 (EDT)
			:::Yea, I wasn't very clear. I meant "Super-God Masterforce," "God Ginrai," "Godmaster," and "Godbomber" types of things. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 22:47, 3 October 2009 (EDT)

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	Yes, I've been wondering about him a while now. I was told that he's a not so well known god who appeared in official material almost nobody knows about, but he doesn't even seem to be mentioned anywhere on this wiki or google. So who is he? --[[Special:Contributions/91.113.118.119\|91.113.118.119]] 19:39, 25 March 2010 (EDT)		Yes, I've been wondering about him a while now. I was told that he's a not so well known god who appeared in official material almost nobody knows about, but he doesn't even seem to be mentioned anywhere on this wiki or google. So who is he? --[[Special:Contributions/91.113.118.119\|91.113.118.119]] 19:39, 25 March 2010 (EDT)
	:So far as I can tell, it's a fan character. I can't find any evidence of them appearing in official material. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 20:18, 25 March 2010 (EDT)		:So far as I can tell, it's a fan character. I can't find any evidence of them appearing in official material. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 20:18, 25 March 2010 (EDT)
			::Yes, that's exactly my problem. I looked it up again - she said Megadyne made his appearance in 1985 Transformers 'Metatisic' saga and that he was the Decepticon counterpart of Primus. Nobody knows what 'Metatisic' is, she doesn't answer my question and apparently nothing can be found about this so called official material. Maybe she really just made something up for reasons unknown... --[[Special:Contributions/212.183.117.184\|212.183.117.184]] 16:30, 4 April 2010 (EDT)

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	::''God is a [[god]] in the [[Generation 1 (franchise)\|Generation 1]] and [[Movie (franchise)\|Movie]] [[continuity family\|continuity families]].''		::''God is a [[god]] in the [[Generation 1 (franchise)\|Generation 1]] and [[Movie (franchise)\|Movie]] [[continuity family\|continuity families]].''
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	::'''God''' is the creator of [[human\|mankind]]. He may have, directly or indirectly, given [[Ginrai]] the ability to [[Transformation\|transform]].		::'''God''' is the creator of [[human\|mankind]]. He may have, directly or indirectly, given [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]] the ability to [[Transformation\|transform]].
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	:::''Japanese name:'' '''Kami-sama''' (神様)		:::''Japanese name:'' '''Kami-sama''' (神様)
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	Just throwing it out there. --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 11:20, 3 October 2009 (EDT)		Just throwing it out there. --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 11:20, 3 October 2009 (EDT)

	:I'm pretty okay with that. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 12:06, 3 October 2009 (EDT)		:I'm pretty okay with that. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 12:06, 3 October 2009 (EDT)
	::Should we remove the Transformer gods from this article and put them in a "See also" section then? Or make a separate article for Transformer gods? -[[User:Mazenoise\|Mazenoise]] 12:16, 3 October 2009 (EDT)		::Should we remove the Transformer gods from this article and put them in a "See also" section then? Or make a separate article for Transformer gods? -[[User:Mazenoise\|Mazenoise]] 12:16, 3 October 2009 (EDT)

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	== Japan ==		== Japan ==

	Stupid question: Is "god" as Japan uses it all over the place a translation from English or are they using the English word "god"? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 21:24, 3 October 2009 (EDT)		Stupid question: Is "god" as Japan uses it all over the place a translation from English or are they using the English word "god"? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 21:24, 3 October 2009 (EDT)
	:They're using the English word. {{unsigned\|173.71.84.186}}		:They're using the English word. {{unsigned\|173.71.84.186}}
	::How did you decided that? I've generally seen Primus referred to as the "creator" or "god", but with the Japanese equivalent words.		::How did you decided that? I've generally seen Primus referred to as the "creator" or "god", but with the Japanese equivalent words.
	::Of course, you say "all over the place," Starfield, which means ANY use of the term "god", whether it refers to Primus or not, whether it's in a TF-related context or not. I'm guessing you meant strictly in relation to Primus. (I don't believe "god" has ever been used in reference to Unicron in Japan.)--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 22:37, 3 October 2009 (EDT)		::Of course, you say "all over the place," Starfield, which means ANY use of the term "god", whether it refers to Primus or not, whether it's in a TF-related context or not. I'm guessing you meant strictly in relation to Primus. (I don't believe "god" has ever been used in reference to Unicron in Japan.)--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 22:37, 3 October 2009 (EDT)
	:::Yea, I wasn't very clear. I meant "Super-God Masterforce," "God Ginrai," "Godmaster," and "Godbomber" types of things. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 22:47, 3 October 2009 (EDT)		:::Yea, I wasn't very clear. I meant "Super-God Masterforce," "God Ginrai," "Godmaster," and "Godbomber" types of things. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 22:47, 3 October 2009 (EDT)
	::::Oh, as part of TF names! Yes, in that case, all of the above except "super-god" use the English word "god" as part of the names. "Super-god" is a literal translation of "chōjin" (超神).--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 23:47, 3 October 2009 (EDT)		::::Oh, as part of TF names! Yes, in that case, all of the above except "super-god" use the English word "god" as part of the names. "Super-god" is a literal translation of "chōjin" (超神).--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 23:47, 3 October 2009 (EDT)

	== Who is Megadyne? ==		== Who is Megadyne? ==
	Yes, I've been wondering about him a while now. I was told that he's a not so well known god who appeared in official material almost nobody knows about, but he doesn't even seem to be mentioned anywhere on this wiki or google. So who is he? --[[Special:Contributions/91.113.118.119\|91.113.118.119]] 19:39, 25 March 2010 (EDT)		Yes, I've been wondering about him a while now. I was told that he's a not so well known god who appeared in official material almost nobody knows about, but he doesn't even seem to be mentioned anywhere on this wiki or google. So who is he? --[[Special:Contributions/91.113.118.119\|91.113.118.119]] 19:39, 25 March 2010 (EDT)
	:So far as I can tell, it's a fan character. I can't find any evidence of them appearing in official material. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 20:18, 25 March 2010 (EDT)		:So far as I can tell, it's a fan character. I can't find any evidence of them appearing in official material. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 20:18, 25 March 2010 (EDT)
	::Yes, that's exactly my problem. I looked it up again - she said Megadyne made his appearance in 1985 Transformers 'Metatisic' saga and that he was the Decepticon counterpart of Primus. Nobody knows what 'Metatisic' is, she doesn't answer my question and apparently nothing can be found about this so called official material. Maybe she really just made something up for reasons unknown... --[[Special:Contributions/212.183.117.184\|212.183.117.184]] 16:30, 4 April 2010 (EDT)		::Yes, that's exactly my problem. I looked it up again - she said Megadyne made his appearance in 1985 Transformers 'Metatisic' saga and that he was the Decepticon counterpart of Primus. Nobody knows what 'Metatisic' is, she doesn't answer my question and apparently nothing can be found about this so called official material. Maybe she really just made something up for reasons unknown... --[[Special:Contributions/212.183.117.184\|212.183.117.184]] 16:30, 4 April 2010 (EDT)