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Saix: /* Untitled */clean up, replaced: Galvatronus (Generations) → Galvatronus (CW) (2)

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	I don't agree with putting the combiner on this page; they don't really share anything other than the name, and I GUESS the fact that they're both bigger bodies for Galvatron. It deserves to be two separate pages; [[Grand Galvatron (UW)]] and [[Grand Galvatron (Headmasters)]], I guess...? --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 10:09, 9 December 2015 (EST)		I don't agree with putting the combiner on this page; they don't really share anything other than the name, and I GUESS the fact that they're both bigger bodies for Galvatron. It deserves to be two separate pages; [[Grand Galvatron (UW)]] and [[Grand Galvatron (Headmasters)]], I guess...? --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 10:09, 9 December 2015 (EST)

	I agree with the above, but I wonder whether it could go on [[Galvatronus (~~Generations~~)\|Galvatronus]]' page. By this wiki's standards, is it the English name for Takara's guy, or are the limbs and deco enough to seperate them? [[User:Sky Shadow\|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow\|talk]]) 10:14, 9 December 2015 (EST)		I agree with the above, but I wonder whether it could go on [[Galvatronus (CW)\|Galvatronus]]' page. By this wiki's standards, is it the English name for Takara's guy, or are the limbs and deco enough to seperate them? [[User:Sky Shadow\|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow\|talk]]) 10:14, 9 December 2015 (EST)

	Isn't it a little early to be making this kind of determination? --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 12:18, 9 December 2015 (EST)		Isn't it a little early to be making this kind of determination? --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 12:18, 9 December 2015 (EST)
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	::::::::It's better than placing the two completely disparate ideas (Galvatron-possessed Cyclonus using limbs collected by Unicron should not be in the same article as a hypothetical Galvatron super-body inspired by Unicron, IMO) in the same article just for sharing a name and having dead people make them up in common. Since it seems, for all intents, that the Galvatron and Cyclonus here are G1 cartoon continuity, the merging of the combiner made of ''the'' G1 cartoon Cyclonus, albeit controlled by Galvatron, with the article of a hypothetical super-body for G1 Galvatron doesn't make sense. Names alone shouldn't dictate how we merge articles unless explicitly canonized as the same by a source. This toy makes much more sense on either Galvatron and Cyclonus' page or it's own article than it does here, where the only thing linking it to the original subject is the name.		::::::::It's better than placing the two completely disparate ideas (Galvatron-possessed Cyclonus using limbs collected by Unicron should not be in the same article as a hypothetical Galvatron super-body inspired by Unicron, IMO) in the same article just for sharing a name and having dead people make them up in common. Since it seems, for all intents, that the Galvatron and Cyclonus here are G1 cartoon continuity, the merging of the combiner made of ''the'' G1 cartoon Cyclonus, albeit controlled by Galvatron, with the article of a hypothetical super-body for G1 Galvatron doesn't make sense. Names alone shouldn't dictate how we merge articles unless explicitly canonized as the same by a source. This toy makes much more sense on either Galvatron and Cyclonus' page or it's own article than it does here, where the only thing linking it to the original subject is the name.

	::::::::We should be as informative and accurate as possible even in spite of being lax for an encyclopedia, and in that case I would support either spliting the combiner into it's own article (ala [[Optimus Maximus (G1)\|Optimus Maximus]] and [[Galvatronus (~~Generations~~)\|Galvatronus]]) or merging it with either Cyclonus or Galvatron's articles. Reworking this article is a compromise I can accept, though. [[User:MaximalBroadjaw\|MaximalBroadjaw]] ([[User talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|talk]]) 13:30, 10 December 2015 (EST)		::::::::We should be as informative and accurate as possible even in spite of being lax for an encyclopedia, and in that case I would support either spliting the combiner into it's own article (ala [[Optimus Maximus (G1)\|Optimus Maximus]] and [[Galvatronus (CW)\|Galvatronus]]) or merging it with either Cyclonus or Galvatron's articles. Reworking this article is a compromise I can accept, though. [[User:MaximalBroadjaw\|MaximalBroadjaw]] ([[User talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|talk]]) 13:30, 10 December 2015 (EST)

	:::::::::This is off-topic, but [[Wheeljack (Armada)\|''Armada'' Wheeljack]] is actually called "Rampage" in Japan. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 13:50, 10 December 2015 (EST)		:::::::::This is off-topic, but [[Wheeljack (Armada)\|''Armada'' Wheeljack]] is actually called "Rampage" in Japan. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 13:50, 10 December 2015 (EST)

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	I don't agree with putting the combiner on this page; they don't really share anything other than the name, and I GUESS the fact that they're both bigger bodies for Galvatron. It deserves to be two separate pages; [[Grand Galvatron (UW)]] and [[Grand Galvatron (Headmasters)]], I guess...? --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 10:09, 9 December 2015 (EST)		I don't agree with putting the combiner on this page; they don't really share anything other than the name, and I GUESS the fact that they're both bigger bodies for Galvatron. It deserves to be two separate pages; [[Grand Galvatron (UW)]] and [[Grand Galvatron (Headmasters)]], I guess...? --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 10:09, 9 December 2015 (EST)

	I agree with the above, but I wonder whether it could go on [[Galvatronus]]' page. By this wiki's standards, is it the English name for Takara's guy, or are the limbs and deco enough to seperate them? [[User:Sky Shadow\|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow\|talk]]) 10:14, 9 December 2015 (EST)		I agree with the above, but I wonder whether it could go on [[Galvatronus (Generations)\|Galvatronus]]' page. By this wiki's standards, is it the English name for Takara's guy, or are the limbs and deco enough to seperate them? [[User:Sky Shadow\|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow\|talk]]) 10:14, 9 December 2015 (EST)

	Isn't it a little early to be making this kind of determination? --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 12:18, 9 December 2015 (EST)		Isn't it a little early to be making this kind of determination? --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 12:18, 9 December 2015 (EST)
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	::::::::It's better than placing the two completely disparate ideas (Galvatron-possessed Cyclonus using limbs collected by Unicron should not be in the same article as a hypothetical Galvatron super-body inspired by Unicron, IMO) in the same article just for sharing a name and having dead people make them up in common. Since it seems, for all intents, that the Galvatron and Cyclonus here are G1 cartoon continuity, the merging of the combiner made of ''the'' G1 cartoon Cyclonus, albeit controlled by Galvatron, with the article of a hypothetical super-body for G1 Galvatron doesn't make sense. Names alone shouldn't dictate how we merge articles unless explicitly canonized as the same by a source. This toy makes much more sense on either Galvatron and Cyclonus' page or it's own article than it does here, where the only thing linking it to the original subject is the name.		::::::::It's better than placing the two completely disparate ideas (Galvatron-possessed Cyclonus using limbs collected by Unicron should not be in the same article as a hypothetical Galvatron super-body inspired by Unicron, IMO) in the same article just for sharing a name and having dead people make them up in common. Since it seems, for all intents, that the Galvatron and Cyclonus here are G1 cartoon continuity, the merging of the combiner made of ''the'' G1 cartoon Cyclonus, albeit controlled by Galvatron, with the article of a hypothetical super-body for G1 Galvatron doesn't make sense. Names alone shouldn't dictate how we merge articles unless explicitly canonized as the same by a source. This toy makes much more sense on either Galvatron and Cyclonus' page or it's own article than it does here, where the only thing linking it to the original subject is the name.

	::::::::We should be as informative and accurate as possible even in spite of being lax for an encyclopedia, and in that case I would support either spliting the combiner into it's own article (ala [[Optimus Maximus (G1)\|Optimus Maximus]] and [[Galvatronus]]) or merging it with either Cyclonus or Galvatron's articles. Reworking this article is a compromise I can accept, though. [[User:MaximalBroadjaw\|MaximalBroadjaw]] ([[User talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|talk]]) 13:30, 10 December 2015 (EST)		::::::::We should be as informative and accurate as possible even in spite of being lax for an encyclopedia, and in that case I would support either spliting the combiner into it's own article (ala [[Optimus Maximus (G1)\|Optimus Maximus]] and [[Galvatronus (Generations)\|Galvatronus]]) or merging it with either Cyclonus or Galvatron's articles. Reworking this article is a compromise I can accept, though. [[User:MaximalBroadjaw\|MaximalBroadjaw]] ([[User talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|talk]]) 13:30, 10 December 2015 (EST)

	:::::::::This is off-topic, but [[Wheeljack (Armada)\|''Armada'' Wheeljack]] is actually called "Rampage" in Japan. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 13:50, 10 December 2015 (EST)		:::::::::This is off-topic, but [[Wheeljack (Armada)\|''Armada'' Wheeljack]] is actually called "Rampage" in Japan. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 13:50, 10 December 2015 (EST)

Rosicrucian: /* Hello? */

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Hello?

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	::Okay. I just wanted to know what the was going on with this. It's probably best to let this discussion air out anyway; it was getting kinda heated. Maybe we'll revisit it when the Unite Warriors toy comes out. Cheers! -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 16:58, 12 December 2015 (EST)		::Okay. I just wanted to know what the was going on with this. It's probably best to let this discussion air out anyway; it was getting kinda heated. Maybe we'll revisit it when the Unite Warriors toy comes out. Cheers! -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 16:58, 12 December 2015 (EST)
	:::Putting this here... http://www.allspark.com/2015/12/unite-warriors-uw-06-grand-galvatron-mini-comic/ [[User:Poweredconvoy\|poweredconvoy]] ([[User talk:Poweredconvoy\|talk]]) 08:26, 16 December 2015 (EST)		:::Putting this here... http://www.allspark.com/2015/12/unite-warriors-uw-06-grand-galvatron-mini-comic/ [[User:Poweredconvoy\|poweredconvoy]] ([[User talk:Poweredconvoy\|talk]]) 08:26, 16 December 2015 (EST)
			::::Yeah, the comic directly references the planetoid Grand Galvatron, so that settles it. This belongs here.--[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian\|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 18:50, 16 December 2015 (EST)

Poweredconvoy: /* Hello? */

2015-12-16T13:26:28Z

Hello?

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	::Okay. I just wanted to know what the was going on with this. It's probably best to let this discussion air out anyway; it was getting kinda heated. Maybe we'll revisit it when the Unite Warriors toy comes out. Cheers! -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 16:58, 12 December 2015 (EST)		::Okay. I just wanted to know what the was going on with this. It's probably best to let this discussion air out anyway; it was getting kinda heated. Maybe we'll revisit it when the Unite Warriors toy comes out. Cheers! -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 16:58, 12 December 2015 (EST)
			:::Putting this here... http://www.allspark.com/2015/12/unite-warriors-uw-06-grand-galvatron-mini-comic/ [[User:Poweredconvoy\|poweredconvoy]] ([[User talk:Poweredconvoy\|talk]]) 08:26, 16 December 2015 (EST)

Foffy the Sheep at 21:58, 12 December 2015

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	Sooooooooo...has anything been decided yet? -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 15:44, 12 December 2015 (EST)		Sooooooooo...has anything been decided yet? -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 15:44, 12 December 2015 (EST)
	:I just tallied the vote for you. However, as I myself am trying to learn, a little patience never hurts. The page will get there in the end. --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 16:08, 12 December 2015 (EST)		:I just tallied the vote for you. However, as I myself am trying to learn, a little patience never hurts. The page will get there in the end. --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 16:08, 12 December 2015 (EST)

			::Okay. I just wanted to know what the was going on with this. It's probably best to let this discussion air out anyway; it was getting kinda heated. Maybe we'll revisit it when the Unite Warriors toy comes out. Cheers! -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 16:58, 12 December 2015 (EST)

Giggidy: /* Hello? */

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Hello?

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	==Hello?==		==Hello?==
	Sooooooooo...has anything been decided yet? -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 15:44, 12 December 2015 (EST)		Sooooooooo...has anything been decided yet? -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 15:44, 12 December 2015 (EST)
			:I just tallied the vote for you. However, as I myself am trying to learn, a little patience never hurts. The page will get there in the end. --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 16:08, 12 December 2015 (EST)

Giggidy: /* Vote Results */

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	Since it's been a day with no activity, and Foffy is asking, I see the results as follows:		Since it's been a day with no activity, and Foffy is asking, I see the results as follows:

	#2: 6 votes - Thylacine 2000, S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47, Giggidy, Khajidha, Xaaron, Foffy the Sheep. Further, ~~Walky votes NOT 1, 3, 4, and~~ Riptide indicates 2 as a tolerable second choice.		*2: 6 votes - Thylacine 2000, S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47, Giggidy, Khajidha, Xaaron, Foffy the Sheep. Further, Riptide indicates 2 as a tolerable second choice.

	#5: 4 votes - Riptide, Powered Convoy, MaximalBroadJaw (split with #3), and Saix (split with #3)		*5: 4 votes - Riptide, Powered Convoy, MaximalBroadJaw (split with #3), and Saix (split with #3)

	#3: 4 votes - Sipher, MaximalBroadJaw (split with #5), Brave Max, Saix (split with #5). Further, Powered Convoy indicates 3 as a tolerable second choice.		*3: 4 votes - Sipher, MaximalBroadJaw (split with #5), Brave Max, Saix (split with #5). Further, Powered Convoy indicates 3 as a tolerable second choice, and Walky votes NOT 3 (also, not 1 and not 4)

			*1: No votes, but Khajidha's second choice.

			*4: No votes.

	So... looks like the plurality favor keeping things as they are. Shall we consider the matter resolved, barring new information? --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 16:05, 12 December 2015 (EST)		So... looks like the plurality favor keeping things as they are. Shall we consider the matter resolved, barring new information? --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 16:05, 12 December 2015 (EST)

Giggidy: /* Vote Results */

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	3 or 5. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 20:13, 11 December 2015 (EST)		3 or 5. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 20:13, 11 December 2015 (EST)

			===Vote Results===

			Since it's been a day with no activity, and Foffy is asking, I see the results as follows:

			#2: 6 votes - Thylacine 2000, S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47, Giggidy, Khajidha, Xaaron, Foffy the Sheep. Further, Walky votes NOT 1, 3, 4, and Riptide indicates 2 as a tolerable second choice.

			#5: 4 votes - Riptide, Powered Convoy, MaximalBroadJaw (split with #3), and Saix (split with #3)

			#3: 4 votes - Sipher, MaximalBroadJaw (split with #5), Brave Max, Saix (split with #5). Further, Powered Convoy indicates 3 as a tolerable second choice.

			So... looks like the plurality favor keeping things as they are. Shall we consider the matter resolved, barring new information? --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 16:05, 12 December 2015 (EST)

	==Sandbox?==		==Sandbox?==

Foffy the Sheep at 20:44, 12 December 2015

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	:::::::Yeah, that sounds awesome! You should go ahead and add that to [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/User_talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|your sandbox]]. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 22:11, 11 December 2015 (EST)		:::::::Yeah, that sounds awesome! You should go ahead and add that to [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/User_talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|your sandbox]]. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 22:11, 11 December 2015 (EST)

			==Hello?==
			Sooooooooo...has anything been decided yet? -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 15:44, 12 December 2015 (EST)

Foffy the Sheep: /* Sandbox? */

2015-12-12T03:11:45Z

Sandbox?

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	:::::I had a thought regarding the clunky-wording issue caused by Roller's ever-so-inconvenient choice to be not-dead: what if the wording was made to ''emphasize'' how random the choice of characters who make up the limbs are, rather than try to hide it? Like something along the lines of "using battered cybertronians to construct himself a new body, Galvatron became '''Grand Galvatron'''", or maybe "with battered Transformers forming the limbs of his new combiner body, Galvatron became '''Grand Galvatron'''". It's not perfect, but I thought I'd throw that out there. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 21:41, 11 December 2015 (EST)		:::::I had a thought regarding the clunky-wording issue caused by Roller's ever-so-inconvenient choice to be not-dead: what if the wording was made to ''emphasize'' how random the choice of characters who make up the limbs are, rather than try to hide it? Like something along the lines of "using battered cybertronians to construct himself a new body, Galvatron became '''Grand Galvatron'''", or maybe "with battered Transformers forming the limbs of his new combiner body, Galvatron became '''Grand Galvatron'''". It's not perfect, but I thought I'd throw that out there. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 21:41, 11 December 2015 (EST)
	::::::That's still a little weirdly worded, though. Maybe "With a set of revitalized Cybertronians from across the multiverse, Galvatron's spirit infuses Cyclonus with the ability to form '''Grand Galvatron''', a mighty gestalt warrior in the image of the fierce Decepticon." is a bit better? It's not implying all the components are dead, but doesn't cause a need for any clunky wording. [[User:MaximalBroadjaw\|MaximalBroadjaw]] ([[User talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|talk]]) 21:57, 11 December 2015 (EST)		::::::That's still a little weirdly worded, though. Maybe "With a set of revitalized Cybertronians from across the multiverse, Galvatron's spirit infuses Cyclonus with the ability to form '''Grand Galvatron''', a mighty gestalt warrior in the image of the fierce Decepticon." is a bit better? It's not implying all the components are dead, but doesn't cause a need for any clunky wording. [[User:MaximalBroadjaw\|MaximalBroadjaw]] ([[User talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|talk]]) 21:57, 11 December 2015 (EST)

			:::::::Yeah, that sounds awesome! You should go ahead and add that to [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/User_talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|your sandbox]]. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 22:11, 11 December 2015 (EST)

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	I don't agree with putting the combiner on this page; they don't really share anything other than the name, and I GUESS the fact that they're both bigger bodies for Galvatron. It deserves to be two separate pages; [[Grand Galvatron (UW)]] and [[Grand Galvatron (Headmasters)]], I guess...? --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 10:09, 9 December 2015 (EST)		I don't agree with putting the combiner on this page; they don't really share anything other than the name, and I GUESS the fact that they're both bigger bodies for Galvatron. It deserves to be two separate pages; [[Grand Galvatron (UW)]] and [[Grand Galvatron (Headmasters)]], I guess...? --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 10:09, 9 December 2015 (EST)

	I agree with the above, but I wonder whether it could go on [[Galvatronus (~~Generations~~)\|Galvatronus]]' page. By this wiki's standards, is it the English name for Takara's guy, or are the limbs and deco enough to seperate them? [[User:Sky Shadow\|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow\|talk]]) 10:14, 9 December 2015 (EST)		I agree with the above, but I wonder whether it could go on [[Galvatronus (CW)\|Galvatronus]]' page. By this wiki's standards, is it the English name for Takara's guy, or are the limbs and deco enough to seperate them? [[User:Sky Shadow\|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow\|talk]]) 10:14, 9 December 2015 (EST)

	Isn't it a little early to be making this kind of determination? --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 12:18, 9 December 2015 (EST)		Isn't it a little early to be making this kind of determination? --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 12:18, 9 December 2015 (EST)
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	::::::::It's better than placing the two completely disparate ideas (Galvatron-possessed Cyclonus using limbs collected by Unicron should not be in the same article as a hypothetical Galvatron super-body inspired by Unicron, IMO) in the same article just for sharing a name and having dead people make them up in common. Since it seems, for all intents, that the Galvatron and Cyclonus here are G1 cartoon continuity, the merging of the combiner made of ''the'' G1 cartoon Cyclonus, albeit controlled by Galvatron, with the article of a hypothetical super-body for G1 Galvatron doesn't make sense. Names alone shouldn't dictate how we merge articles unless explicitly canonized as the same by a source. This toy makes much more sense on either Galvatron and Cyclonus' page or it's own article than it does here, where the only thing linking it to the original subject is the name.		::::::::It's better than placing the two completely disparate ideas (Galvatron-possessed Cyclonus using limbs collected by Unicron should not be in the same article as a hypothetical Galvatron super-body inspired by Unicron, IMO) in the same article just for sharing a name and having dead people make them up in common. Since it seems, for all intents, that the Galvatron and Cyclonus here are G1 cartoon continuity, the merging of the combiner made of ''the'' G1 cartoon Cyclonus, albeit controlled by Galvatron, with the article of a hypothetical super-body for G1 Galvatron doesn't make sense. Names alone shouldn't dictate how we merge articles unless explicitly canonized as the same by a source. This toy makes much more sense on either Galvatron and Cyclonus' page or it's own article than it does here, where the only thing linking it to the original subject is the name.

	::::::::We should be as informative and accurate as possible even in spite of being lax for an encyclopedia, and in that case I would support either spliting the combiner into it's own article (ala [[Optimus Maximus (G1)\|Optimus Maximus]] and [[Galvatronus (~~Generations~~)\|Galvatronus]]) or merging it with either Cyclonus or Galvatron's articles. Reworking this article is a compromise I can accept, though. [[User:MaximalBroadjaw\|MaximalBroadjaw]] ([[User talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|talk]]) 13:30, 10 December 2015 (EST)		::::::::We should be as informative and accurate as possible even in spite of being lax for an encyclopedia, and in that case I would support either spliting the combiner into it's own article (ala [[Optimus Maximus (G1)\|Optimus Maximus]] and [[Galvatronus (CW)\|Galvatronus]]) or merging it with either Cyclonus or Galvatron's articles. Reworking this article is a compromise I can accept, though. [[User:MaximalBroadjaw\|MaximalBroadjaw]] ([[User talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|talk]]) 13:30, 10 December 2015 (EST)

	:::::::::This is off-topic, but [[Wheeljack (Armada)\|''Armada'' Wheeljack]] is actually called "Rampage" in Japan. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 13:50, 10 December 2015 (EST)		:::::::::This is off-topic, but [[Wheeljack (Armada)\|''Armada'' Wheeljack]] is actually called "Rampage" in Japan. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 13:50, 10 December 2015 (EST)

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	I don't agree with putting the combiner on this page; they don't really share anything other than the name, and I GUESS the fact that they're both bigger bodies for Galvatron. It deserves to be two separate pages; [[Grand Galvatron (UW)]] and [[Grand Galvatron (Headmasters)]], I guess...? --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 10:09, 9 December 2015 (EST)		I don't agree with putting the combiner on this page; they don't really share anything other than the name, and I GUESS the fact that they're both bigger bodies for Galvatron. It deserves to be two separate pages; [[Grand Galvatron (UW)]] and [[Grand Galvatron (Headmasters)]], I guess...? --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 10:09, 9 December 2015 (EST)

	I agree with the above, but I wonder whether it could go on [[Galvatronus]]' page. By this wiki's standards, is it the English name for Takara's guy, or are the limbs and deco enough to seperate them? [[User:Sky Shadow\|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow\|talk]]) 10:14, 9 December 2015 (EST)		I agree with the above, but I wonder whether it could go on [[Galvatronus (Generations)\|Galvatronus]]' page. By this wiki's standards, is it the English name for Takara's guy, or are the limbs and deco enough to seperate them? [[User:Sky Shadow\|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow\|talk]]) 10:14, 9 December 2015 (EST)

	Isn't it a little early to be making this kind of determination? --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 12:18, 9 December 2015 (EST)		Isn't it a little early to be making this kind of determination? --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 12:18, 9 December 2015 (EST)
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	::::::::It's better than placing the two completely disparate ideas (Galvatron-possessed Cyclonus using limbs collected by Unicron should not be in the same article as a hypothetical Galvatron super-body inspired by Unicron, IMO) in the same article just for sharing a name and having dead people make them up in common. Since it seems, for all intents, that the Galvatron and Cyclonus here are G1 cartoon continuity, the merging of the combiner made of ''the'' G1 cartoon Cyclonus, albeit controlled by Galvatron, with the article of a hypothetical super-body for G1 Galvatron doesn't make sense. Names alone shouldn't dictate how we merge articles unless explicitly canonized as the same by a source. This toy makes much more sense on either Galvatron and Cyclonus' page or it's own article than it does here, where the only thing linking it to the original subject is the name.		::::::::It's better than placing the two completely disparate ideas (Galvatron-possessed Cyclonus using limbs collected by Unicron should not be in the same article as a hypothetical Galvatron super-body inspired by Unicron, IMO) in the same article just for sharing a name and having dead people make them up in common. Since it seems, for all intents, that the Galvatron and Cyclonus here are G1 cartoon continuity, the merging of the combiner made of ''the'' G1 cartoon Cyclonus, albeit controlled by Galvatron, with the article of a hypothetical super-body for G1 Galvatron doesn't make sense. Names alone shouldn't dictate how we merge articles unless explicitly canonized as the same by a source. This toy makes much more sense on either Galvatron and Cyclonus' page or it's own article than it does here, where the only thing linking it to the original subject is the name.

	::::::::We should be as informative and accurate as possible even in spite of being lax for an encyclopedia, and in that case I would support either spliting the combiner into it's own article (ala [[Optimus Maximus (G1)\|Optimus Maximus]] and [[Galvatronus]]) or merging it with either Cyclonus or Galvatron's articles. Reworking this article is a compromise I can accept, though. [[User:MaximalBroadjaw\|MaximalBroadjaw]] ([[User talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|talk]]) 13:30, 10 December 2015 (EST)		::::::::We should be as informative and accurate as possible even in spite of being lax for an encyclopedia, and in that case I would support either spliting the combiner into it's own article (ala [[Optimus Maximus (G1)\|Optimus Maximus]] and [[Galvatronus (Generations)\|Galvatronus]]) or merging it with either Cyclonus or Galvatron's articles. Reworking this article is a compromise I can accept, though. [[User:MaximalBroadjaw\|MaximalBroadjaw]] ([[User talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|talk]]) 13:30, 10 December 2015 (EST)

	:::::::::This is off-topic, but [[Wheeljack (Armada)\|''Armada'' Wheeljack]] is actually called "Rampage" in Japan. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 13:50, 10 December 2015 (EST)		:::::::::This is off-topic, but [[Wheeljack (Armada)\|''Armada'' Wheeljack]] is actually called "Rampage" in Japan. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 13:50, 10 December 2015 (EST)

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	::Okay. I just wanted to know what the was going on with this. It's probably best to let this discussion air out anyway; it was getting kinda heated. Maybe we'll revisit it when the Unite Warriors toy comes out. Cheers! -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 16:58, 12 December 2015 (EST)		::Okay. I just wanted to know what the was going on with this. It's probably best to let this discussion air out anyway; it was getting kinda heated. Maybe we'll revisit it when the Unite Warriors toy comes out. Cheers! -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 16:58, 12 December 2015 (EST)
	:::Putting this here... http://www.allspark.com/2015/12/unite-warriors-uw-06-grand-galvatron-mini-comic/ [[User:Poweredconvoy\|poweredconvoy]] ([[User talk:Poweredconvoy\|talk]]) 08:26, 16 December 2015 (EST)		:::Putting this here... http://www.allspark.com/2015/12/unite-warriors-uw-06-grand-galvatron-mini-comic/ [[User:Poweredconvoy\|poweredconvoy]] ([[User talk:Poweredconvoy\|talk]]) 08:26, 16 December 2015 (EST)
			::::Yeah, the comic directly references the planetoid Grand Galvatron, so that settles it. This belongs here.--[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian\|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 18:50, 16 December 2015 (EST)

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	Sooooooooo...has anything been decided yet? -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 15:44, 12 December 2015 (EST)		Sooooooooo...has anything been decided yet? -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 15:44, 12 December 2015 (EST)
	:I just tallied the vote for you. However, as I myself am trying to learn, a little patience never hurts. The page will get there in the end. --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 16:08, 12 December 2015 (EST)		:I just tallied the vote for you. However, as I myself am trying to learn, a little patience never hurts. The page will get there in the end. --[[User:Giggidy\|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy\|talk]]) 16:08, 12 December 2015 (EST)

			::Okay. I just wanted to know what the was going on with this. It's probably best to let this discussion air out anyway; it was getting kinda heated. Maybe we'll revisit it when the Unite Warriors toy comes out. Cheers! -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 16:58, 12 December 2015 (EST)

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	:::::I had a thought regarding the clunky-wording issue caused by Roller's ever-so-inconvenient choice to be not-dead: what if the wording was made to ''emphasize'' how random the choice of characters who make up the limbs are, rather than try to hide it? Like something along the lines of "using battered cybertronians to construct himself a new body, Galvatron became '''Grand Galvatron'''", or maybe "with battered Transformers forming the limbs of his new combiner body, Galvatron became '''Grand Galvatron'''". It's not perfect, but I thought I'd throw that out there. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 21:41, 11 December 2015 (EST)		:::::I had a thought regarding the clunky-wording issue caused by Roller's ever-so-inconvenient choice to be not-dead: what if the wording was made to ''emphasize'' how random the choice of characters who make up the limbs are, rather than try to hide it? Like something along the lines of "using battered cybertronians to construct himself a new body, Galvatron became '''Grand Galvatron'''", or maybe "with battered Transformers forming the limbs of his new combiner body, Galvatron became '''Grand Galvatron'''". It's not perfect, but I thought I'd throw that out there. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 21:41, 11 December 2015 (EST)
	::::::That's still a little weirdly worded, though. Maybe "With a set of revitalized Cybertronians from across the multiverse, Galvatron's spirit infuses Cyclonus with the ability to form '''Grand Galvatron''', a mighty gestalt warrior in the image of the fierce Decepticon." is a bit better? It's not implying all the components are dead, but doesn't cause a need for any clunky wording. [[User:MaximalBroadjaw\|MaximalBroadjaw]] ([[User talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|talk]]) 21:57, 11 December 2015 (EST)		::::::That's still a little weirdly worded, though. Maybe "With a set of revitalized Cybertronians from across the multiverse, Galvatron's spirit infuses Cyclonus with the ability to form '''Grand Galvatron''', a mighty gestalt warrior in the image of the fierce Decepticon." is a bit better? It's not implying all the components are dead, but doesn't cause a need for any clunky wording. [[User:MaximalBroadjaw\|MaximalBroadjaw]] ([[User talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|talk]]) 21:57, 11 December 2015 (EST)

			:::::::Yeah, that sounds awesome! You should go ahead and add that to [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/User_talk:MaximalBroadjaw\|your sandbox]]. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep\|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep\|talk]]) 22:11, 11 December 2015 (EST)