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AzimuthAcolyte: Big Convoy -> Big Convoy (BW) update

2026-04-04T21:56:31Z

Big Convoy -> Big Convoy (BW) update

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	== Optimus Prime's "Ice Age" Altmode? ==		== Optimus Prime's "Ice Age" Altmode? ==
	In the first chapter of this series, we get two brief glimpses of Optimus Prime's robot mode, from the "Ice Age Wars" era that preceded the Transformers' big sleep until the 19th century. He has two curved protusions over his shoulders that look a bit like an elephant or mammoth's trunk, split in half lengthwise. He looks a smidge like [[Big Convoy\|Big Convoy]], except that Big Convoy's trunk didn't split, it just came off entire. And yet, I could swear I've seen a toy whose robot mode had a split trunk like that. Can anyone else recall one? [[User:JW\|JW]] 17:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)		In the first chapter of this series, we get two brief glimpses of Optimus Prime's robot mode, from the "Ice Age Wars" era that preceded the Transformers' big sleep until the 19th century. He has two curved protusions over his shoulders that look a bit like an elephant or mammoth's trunk, split in half lengthwise. He looks a smidge like [[Big Convoy (BW)\|Big Convoy]], except that Big Convoy's trunk didn't split, it just came off entire. And yet, I could swear I've seen a toy whose robot mode had a split trunk like that. Can anyone else recall one? [[User:JW\|JW]] 17:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
	:BW Ironhide's (the elephant Magnaboss component) entire head split in half, including the trunk. - [[User:RolonBolon\|RolonBolon]] 21:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)		:BW Ironhide's (the elephant Magnaboss component) entire head split in half, including the trunk. - [[User:RolonBolon\|RolonBolon]] 21:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
	::He's a brachiosaurus. Guido Guidi says it himself [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=10074&view=findpost&p=266183 here].--[[User:MCRG\|MCRG]] 04:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC)		::He's a brachiosaurus. Guido Guidi says it himself [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=10074&view=findpost&p=266183 here].--[[User:MCRG\|MCRG]] 04:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Saix: clean up, replaced: → (70), * → * (3), Big Convoy (BWN) → Big Convoy

2016-03-12T21:20:17Z

clean up, replaced: → (70), * → * (3), Big Convoy (BWN) → Big Convoy

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Abates: /* Optimus Prime's "Ice Age" Altmode? */

2014-10-08T07:50:02Z

Optimus Prime's "Ice Age" Altmode?

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	== Optimus Prime's "Ice Age" Altmode? ==		== Optimus Prime's "Ice Age" Altmode? ==
	In the first chapter of this series, we get two brief glimpses of Optimus Prime's robot mode, from the "Ice Age Wars" era that preceded the Transformers' big sleep until the 19th century. He has two curved protusions over his shoulders that look a bit like an elephant or mammoth's trunk, split in half lengthwise. He looks a smidge like [[Big Convoy]], except that Big Convoy's trunk didn't split, it just came off entire. And yet, I could swear I've seen a toy whose robot mode had a split trunk like that. Can anyone else recall one? [[User:JW\|JW]] 17:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)		In the first chapter of this series, we get two brief glimpses of Optimus Prime's robot mode, from the "Ice Age Wars" era that preceded the Transformers' big sleep until the 19th century. He has two curved protusions over his shoulders that look a bit like an elephant or mammoth's trunk, split in half lengthwise. He looks a smidge like [[Big Convoy (BWN)\|Big Convoy]], except that Big Convoy's trunk didn't split, it just came off entire. And yet, I could swear I've seen a toy whose robot mode had a split trunk like that. Can anyone else recall one? [[User:JW\|JW]] 17:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
	:BW Ironhide's (the elephant Magnaboss component) entire head split in half, including the trunk. - [[User:RolonBolon\|RolonBolon]] 21:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)		:BW Ironhide's (the elephant Magnaboss component) entire head split in half, including the trunk. - [[User:RolonBolon\|RolonBolon]] 21:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
	::He's a brachiosaurus. Guido Guidi says it himself [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=10074&view=findpost&p=266183 here].--[[User:MCRG\|MCRG]] 04:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC)		::He's a brachiosaurus. Guido Guidi says it himself [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=10074&view=findpost&p=266183 here].--[[User:MCRG\|MCRG]] 04:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Deceptitran: BOT: replacing (2) links to "Evolutions" with "The Transformers: Evolutions"

2011-10-30T16:09:05Z

BOT: replacing (2) links to "Evolutions" with "The Transformers: Evolutions"

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	* The current way seems to be to add on to G1 articles, since HoS is kinda similar to G1. So, we have an "IDW 'Hearts of Steel' continuity" section in the [[Bumblebee (G1)]] article.		* The current way seems to be to add on to G1 articles, since HoS is kinda similar to G1. So, we have an "IDW 'Hearts of Steel' continuity" section in the [[Bumblebee (G1)]] article.
	* Or, since anything under the [[Evolutions]] banner is ''explicitly'' a new continuity, we could create new pages, with titles like "Bumblebee (HoS)" (or possibly "Bumblebee (E:HoS)" so all Evolutions are grouped together).		* Or, since anything under the [[The Transformers: Evolutions\|Evolutions]] banner is ''explicitly'' a new continuity, we could create new pages, with titles like "Bumblebee (HoS)" (or possibly "Bumblebee (E:HoS)" so all Evolutions are grouped together).
	* Or, third, since presumably there will be more Evolutions titles, and (also presumably) they will be all relatively small continuities, with short articles, we could create pages with titles like "Bumblebee (Evolutions)", with a "Hearts of Steel continuity" subheader, and put everything about every Evolutions variation of Bumblebee on that page.		* Or, third, since presumably there will be more Evolutions titles, and (also presumably) they will be all relatively small continuities, with short articles, we could create pages with titles like "Bumblebee (Evolutions)", with a "Hearts of Steel continuity" subheader, and put everything about every Evolutions variation of Bumblebee on that page.

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	::(Just wait for the fight about whether or not to place Animated in G1...) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:14, 18 August 2007 (UTC)		::(Just wait for the fight about whether or not to place Animated in G1...) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:14, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

	I'll grant the "E:HoS stuff should be filed under G1" point, for now, though it may bear revisiting after we see the future of [[Evolutions]]. [[User:JW\|JW]] 15:14, 20 August 2007 (UTC)		I'll grant the "E:HoS stuff should be filed under G1" point, for now, though it may bear revisiting after we see the future of [[The Transformers: Evolutions\|Evolutions]]. [[User:JW\|JW]] 15:14, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
	:(But if I should ever get to write TF comics, I'll be sure to throw in a few Sky-Bytes and Longviews next to my Bumblebees, just to mess with you guys.) [[User:JW\|JW]] 15:17, 20 August 2007 (UTC)		:(But if I should ever get to write TF comics, I'll be sure to throw in a few Sky-Bytes and Longviews next to my Bumblebees, just to mess with you guys.) [[User:JW\|JW]] 15:17, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Geewunling at 14:06, 12 December 2010

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	== Optimus Prime's "Ice Age" Altmode? ==		== Optimus Prime's "Ice Age" Altmode? ==

	In the first chapter of this series, we get two brief glimpses of Optimus Prime's robot mode, from the "Ice Age Wars" era that preceded the Transformers' big sleep until the 19th century. He has two curved protusions over his shoulders that look a bit like an elephant or mammoth's trunk, split in half lengthwise. He looks a smidge like [[Big Convoy]], except that Big Convoy's trunk didn't split, it just came off entire. And yet, I could swear I've seen a toy whose robot mode had a split trunk like that. Can anyone else recall one? [[User:JW\|JW]] 17:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)		In the first chapter of this series, we get two brief glimpses of Optimus Prime's robot mode, from the "Ice Age Wars" era that preceded the Transformers' big sleep until the 19th century. He has two curved protusions over his shoulders that look a bit like an elephant or mammoth's trunk, split in half lengthwise. He looks a smidge like [[Big Convoy]], except that Big Convoy's trunk didn't split, it just came off entire. And yet, I could swear I've seen a toy whose robot mode had a split trunk like that. Can anyone else recall one? [[User:JW\|JW]] 17:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
	:BW Ironhide's (the elephant Magnaboss component) entire head split in half, including the trunk. - [[User:RolonBolon\|RolonBolon]] 21:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)		:BW Ironhide's (the elephant Magnaboss component) entire head split in half, including the trunk. - [[User:RolonBolon\|RolonBolon]] 21:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
	::He's a brachiosaurus. Guido Guidi says it himself [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=10074&view=findpost&p=266183 here].--[[User:MCRG\|MCRG]] 04:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC)		::He's a brachiosaurus. Guido Guidi says it himself [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=10074&view=findpost&p=266183 here].--[[User:MCRG\|MCRG]] 04:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

	== New Continuity, or G1, or . . . ? ==		== New Continuity, or G1, or . . . ? ==

	So, there are three ways we can handle articles related to Hearts of Steel:		So, there are three ways we can handle articles related to Hearts of Steel:

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	== Identifying characters ==		== Identifying characters ==
			Hey, is that [[Tarantulas (BW)\|Tarantulas]] in the lower-left corner of p2 (the Ice Age Wars 2-page spread)? Who else has a head like that? [[User:JW\|JW]] 11:16, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
	Hey, is that [[Tarantulas]] in the lower-left corner of p2 (the Ice Age Wars 2-page spread)? Who else has a head like that? [[User:JW\|JW]] 11:16, 21 August 2007 (UTC)		: I'm not sure who you're talking about. There's no good shot of any head in the lower-left corner, and the back of the head of the guy we do see doesn't look like Tarantulas to me. Guy in the bottom right corner is Soundwave, though. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 04:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
	: I'm not sure who you're talking about. There's no good shot of any head in the lower-left corner, and the back of the head of the guy we do see doesn't look like Tarantulas to me. Guy in the bottom right corner is Soundwave, though. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 04:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

	==Date==		==Date==

Geewunling: /* New Continuity, or G1, or . . . ? */

2009-04-07T18:19:41Z

New Continuity, or G1, or . . . ?

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	::That's absolutely fair and reasonable. But the eager fanboy in me wants to start doing HoS writeups ''now'', and I would rather do them in the right place to begin with . . . but I can wait, if necessary. [[User:JW\|JW]] 15:12, 18 August 2007 (UTC)		::That's absolutely fair and reasonable. But the eager fanboy in me wants to start doing HoS writeups ''now'', and I would rather do them in the right place to begin with . . . but I can wait, if necessary. [[User:JW\|JW]] 15:12, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
	:::Eh, I'll let someone who's logged in more time on this wiki than me weigh in then. Has the next Evolutions series been announced so far?--[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]] 15:14, 18 August 2007 (UTC)		:::Eh, I'll let someone who's logged in more time on this wiki than me weigh in then. Has the next Evolutions series been announced so far?--[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]] 15:14, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
	:Not every new continuity gets a character page spin-off. We don't have [[Bumblebee (Marvel Comics)]] or [[Bumblebee (G1 cartoon)]] or [[Bumblebee (Find Your Fate)]]. Hearts of Steel is just another G1 continuity, among several. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:44, 18 August 2007 (UTC)		:Not every new continuity gets a character page spin-off. We don't have <nowiki>[[Bumblebee (Marvel Comics)]] or [[Bumblebee (G1 cartoon)]] or [[Bumblebee (Find Your Fate)]]</nowiki>. Hearts of Steel is just another G1 continuity, among several. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:44, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
	::I point out that the G1 cartoon, Marvel comics, and Find Your Fate continuities have a lot more in common with each other than they do with HoS. I think the idea that HoS is a "G1 continuity" is at least slightly suspect, and contributes to the continuing bloat of the G1 pages.		::I point out that the G1 cartoon, Marvel comics, and Find Your Fate continuities have a lot more in common with each other than they do with HoS. I think the idea that HoS is a "G1 continuity" is at least slightly suspect, and contributes to the continuing bloat of the G1 pages.

Deceptitran: /* Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 - */

2009-03-24T15:33:33Z

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	Shouldn't this page mention the dude who was originally tagged to do the art, whose name I forget at this moment? Preferably with that awesome concept piece he drew? --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 15:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)		Shouldn't this page mention the dude who was originally tagged to do the art, whose name I forget at this moment? Preferably with that awesome concept piece he drew? --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 15:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
	:Ted McKeever. And yeah, we probably should. - [[User:RolonBolon\|RolonBolon]] 16:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		:Ted McKeever. And yeah, we probably should. - [[User:RolonBolon\|RolonBolon]] 16:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

RolonBolon at 16:07, 4 April 2008

2008-04-04T16:07:17Z

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	==Original artist?==		==Original artist?==
	Shouldn't this page mention the dude who was originally tagged to do the art, whose name I forget at this moment? Preferably with that awesome concept piece he drew? --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 15:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		Shouldn't this page mention the dude who was originally tagged to do the art, whose name I forget at this moment? Preferably with that awesome concept piece he drew? --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 15:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
			:Ted McKeever. And yeah, we probably should. - [[User:RolonBolon\|RolonBolon]] 16:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

M Sipher at 15:58, 4 April 2008

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	I'm the guy who came up with 1867 on [[Mark Twain]]'s page based on stuff I read on the Internet. I was reading through some of his writings for the local paper and where he lived at what times, and I thought he was also in San Francisco in 1867, perhaps after he went to Europe or something. I did pick the date rather arbitrarily. Probably should have said so and written down my reasoning because I sure as hell can't remember now. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 04:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)		I'm the guy who came up with 1867 on [[Mark Twain]]'s page based on stuff I read on the Internet. I was reading through some of his writings for the local paper and where he lived at what times, and I thought he was also in San Francisco in 1867, perhaps after he went to Europe or something. I did pick the date rather arbitrarily. Probably should have said so and written down my reasoning because I sure as hell can't remember now. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 04:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
	:[shrug] As near as I can tell from skimming a few Twain bios, he didn't have a daughter until he lived in New York, so any date we pick is going to be wrong. 1867 is as good a choice as any. [[User:JW\|JW]] 13:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:[shrug] As near as I can tell from skimming a few Twain bios, he didn't have a daughter until he lived in New York, so any date we pick is going to be wrong. 1867 is as good a choice as any. [[User:JW\|JW]] 13:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

			==Original artist?==
			Shouldn't this page mention the dude who was originally tagged to do the art, whose name I forget at this moment? Preferably with that awesome concept piece he drew? --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 15:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

JW: /* Date */ Good a choice as any.

2007-09-16T13:24:19Z

Date: Good a choice as any.

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	==Date==		==Date==
	I'm the guy who came up with 1867 on [[Mark Twain]]'s page based on stuff I read on the Internet. I was reading through some of his writings for the local paper and where he lived at what times, and I thought he was also in San Francisco in 1867, perhaps after he went to Europe or something. I did pick the date rather arbitrarily. Probably should have said so and written down my reasoning because I sure as hell can't remember now. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 04:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		I'm the guy who came up with 1867 on [[Mark Twain]]'s page based on stuff I read on the Internet. I was reading through some of his writings for the local paper and where he lived at what times, and I thought he was also in San Francisco in 1867, perhaps after he went to Europe or something. I did pick the date rather arbitrarily. Probably should have said so and written down my reasoning because I sure as hell can't remember now. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 04:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
			:[shrug] As near as I can tell from skimming a few Twain bios, he didn't have a daughter until he lived in New York, so any date we pick is going to be wrong. 1867 is as good a choice as any. [[User:JW\|JW]] 13:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>