Talk:House (group) - Revision history

https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AHouse_%28group%29 Talk:House (group) - Revision history 2026-09-13T15:12:35Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:House_(group)&diff=1609852&oldid=prev Thylacine 2000 at 03:55, 8 May 2022 2022-05-08T03:55:11Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:55, 8 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l20">Line 20:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 20:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::In LOTR when Theoden cries about seeing the final days of his house, is he talking about the death of his only child? Or ''an actual house''?--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 23:17, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::In LOTR when Theoden cries about seeing the final days of his house, is he talking about the death of his only child? Or ''an actual house''?--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 23:17, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::::Have you read a single thing either of us have said? We've never said it's a literal fucking house, what we're saying is that it's not fucking likely that Roberts is deliberately referencing some random bit of dialogue that is just Furman having Bludgeon say random flowery bullshit like he always does. This is on the same level as Han Solo getting a backstory as being from Corellia because he said a random proper noun in a bit of throwaway dialogue to sound space-y. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:42, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::::Have you read a single thing either of us have said? We've never said it's a literal fucking house, what we're saying is that it's not fucking likely that Roberts is deliberately referencing some random bit of dialogue that is just Furman having Bludgeon say random flowery bullshit like he always does. This is on the same level as Han Solo getting a backstory as being from Corellia because he said a random proper noun in a bit of throwaway dialogue to sound space-y. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:42, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">EDT)</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::::::Uhhhh Saix pretty clearly did say it's "where they are" and "where they reside." And this page isn't about Roberts, it is about the facet of Cybertronian society where they use olde-tyme Middle Earth dialogue calling lineage groups "houses." I ask again: what was Theoden crying about? Was the meaning of "house" in any way unclear to the audience, or in any way different from what the way Bludgeon spoke?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::::::Uhhhh Saix pretty clearly did say it's "where they are" and "where they reside." And this page isn't about Roberts, it is about the facet of Cybertronian society where they use olde-tyme Middle Earth dialogue calling lineage groups "houses." I ask again: what was Theoden crying about? Was the meaning of "house" in any way unclear to the audience, or in any way different from what the way Bludgeon spoke?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::::::It's like [[planetary engine]] - turns out multiple authors can evoke it independently, one isn't more important than the other, and we note them all. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 23:54, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::::::It's like [[planetary engine]] - turns out multiple authors can evoke it independently, one isn't more important than the other, and we note them all. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 23:54, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Thylacine 2000 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:House_(group)&diff=1609851&oldid=prev Thylacine 2000: /* It's still a family group even if you don't name the family */ 2022-05-08T03:54:53Z

<p><span class="autocomment">It's still a family group even if you don't name the family</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:54, 8 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l20">Line 20:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 20:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::In LOTR when Theoden cries about seeing the final days of his house, is he talking about the death of his only child? Or ''an actual house''?--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 23:17, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::In LOTR when Theoden cries about seeing the final days of his house, is he talking about the death of his only child? Or ''an actual house''?--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 23:17, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::::Have you read a single thing either of us have said? We've never said it's a literal fucking house, what we're saying is that it's not fucking likely that Roberts is deliberately referencing some random bit of dialogue that is just Furman having Bludgeon say random flowery bullshit like he always does. This is on the same level as Han Solo getting a backstory as being from Corellia because he said a random proper noun in a bit of throwaway dialogue to sound space-y. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:42, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::::Have you read a single thing either of us have said? We've never said it's a literal fucking house, what we're saying is that it's not fucking likely that Roberts is deliberately referencing some random bit of dialogue that is just Furman having Bludgeon say random flowery bullshit like he always does. This is on the same level as Han Solo getting a backstory as being from Corellia because he said a random proper noun in a bit of throwaway dialogue to sound space-y. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:42, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::::::::Uhhhh Saix pretty clearly did say it's "where they are" and "where they reside." And this page isn't about Roberts, it is about the facet of Cybertronian society where they use olde-tyme Middle Earth dialogue calling lineage groups "houses." I ask again: what was Theoden crying about? Was the meaning of "house" in any way unclear to the audience, or in any way different from what the way Bludgeon spoke?</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::::::::It's like [[planetary engine]] - turns out multiple authors can evoke it independently, one isn't more important than the other, and we note them all. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 23:54, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Thylacine 2000 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:House_(group)&diff=1609850&oldid=prev Escargon: /* It's still a family group even if you don't name the family */ 2022-05-08T03:45:45Z

<p><span class="autocomment">It's still a family group even if you don't name the family</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:45, 8 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l19">Line 19:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 19:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::So you ''also'' think Bludgeon summoned a demon to break windows in an actual literal house, and not to kill his enemies? </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::So you ''also'' think Bludgeon summoned a demon to break windows in an actual literal house, and not to kill his enemies? </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::In LOTR when Theoden cries about seeing the final days of his house, is he talking about the death of his only child? Or ''an actual house''?--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 23:17, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::In LOTR when Theoden cries about seeing the final days of his house, is he talking about the death of his only child? Or ''an actual house''?--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 23:17, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::::Have you read a single thing either of us have said? We've never said it's a literal fucking house, what we're saying is that it's not fucking likely that Roberts is deliberately referencing some random bit of dialogue that is just Furman having Bludgeon say random flowery bullshit like he always does. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:42, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::::Have you read a single thing either of us have said? We've never said it's a literal fucking house, what we're saying is that it's not fucking likely that Roberts is deliberately referencing some random bit of dialogue that is just Furman having Bludgeon say random flowery bullshit like he always does<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. This is on the same level as Han Solo getting a backstory as being from Corellia because he said a random proper noun in a bit of throwaway dialogue to sound space-y</ins>. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:42, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Escargon https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:House_(group)&diff=1609849&oldid=prev Escargon: /* It's still a family group even if you don't name the family */ 2022-05-08T03:42:08Z

<p><span class="autocomment">It's still a family group even if you don't name the family</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:42, 8 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l19">Line 19:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 19:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::So you ''also'' think Bludgeon summoned a demon to break windows in an actual literal house, and not to kill his enemies? </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::So you ''also'' think Bludgeon summoned a demon to break windows in an actual literal house, and not to kill his enemies? </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::In LOTR when Theoden cries about seeing the final days of his house, is he talking about the death of his only child? Or ''an actual house''?--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 23:17, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::In LOTR when Theoden cries about seeing the final days of his house, is he talking about the death of his only child? Or ''an actual house''?--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 23:17, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::::::Have you read a single thing either of us have said? We've never said it's a literal fucking house, what we're saying is that it's not fucking likely that Roberts is deliberately referencing some random bit of dialogue that is just Furman having Bludgeon say random flowery bullshit like he always does. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:42, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Escargon https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:House_(group)&diff=1609846&oldid=prev Thylacine 2000: /* It's still a family group even if you don't name the family */ 2022-05-08T03:17:56Z

<p><span class="autocomment">It's still a family group even if you don't name the family</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:17, 8 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l17">Line 17:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 17:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::I'm with Thy. This is obviously playing off Biblical language such as 2 Chronicles 22:8 - "And when Jehu was executing judgment on the house of Ahab, he met the princes of Judah and the sons of Ahaziah’s brothers, who attended Ahaziah, and he killed them." --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 21:35, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::I'm with Thy. This is obviously playing off Biblical language such as 2 Chronicles 22:8 - "And when Jehu was executing judgment on the house of Ahab, he met the princes of Judah and the sons of Ahaziah’s brothers, who attended Ahaziah, and he killed them." --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 21:35, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::Literally not once has anyone here disagreed that it's supposed to be evoking that. What's being argued over is the idea that some random throwaway line of dialogue from a writer who did that all the time is meant to be the same thing as the actual defined concept, which is A: stupid, and B: not supported by any outside comments from either writer. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 22:59, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::Literally not once has anyone here disagreed that it's supposed to be evoking that. What's being argued over is the idea that some random throwaway line of dialogue from a writer who did that all the time is meant to be the same thing as the actual defined concept, which is A: stupid, and B: not supported by any outside comments from either writer. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 22:59, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::::So you ''also'' think Bludgeon summoned a demon to break windows in an actual literal house, and not to kill his enemies? </ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::::In LOTR when Theoden cries about seeing the final days of his house, is he talking about the death of his only child? Or ''an actual house''?--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 23:17, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Thylacine 2000 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:House_(group)&diff=1609830&oldid=prev Escargon: /* It's still a family group even if you don't name the family */ 2022-05-08T02:59:11Z

<p><span class="autocomment">It's still a family group even if you don't name the family</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 02:59, 8 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l16">Line 16:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 16:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Do you think every instance of "house" in poetic language refers to families? It's just a figurative way of saying "kill my enemies where they are". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:11, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Do you think every instance of "house" in poetic language refers to families? It's just a figurative way of saying "kill my enemies where they are". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:11, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::I'm with Thy. This is obviously playing off Biblical language such as 2 Chronicles 22:8 - "And when Jehu was executing judgment on the house of Ahab, he met the princes of Judah and the sons of Ahaziah’s brothers, who attended Ahaziah, and he killed them." --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 21:35, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::I'm with Thy. This is obviously playing off Biblical language such as 2 Chronicles 22:8 - "And when Jehu was executing judgment on the house of Ahab, he met the princes of Judah and the sons of Ahaziah’s brothers, who attended Ahaziah, and he killed them." --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 21:35, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::Literally not once has anyone here disagreed that it's supposed to be evoking that. What's being argued over is the idea that some random throwaway line of dialogue from a writer who did that all the time is meant to be the same thing as the actual defined concept, which is A: stupid, and B: not supported by any outside comments from either writer. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 22:59, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Escargon https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:House_(group)&diff=1609811&oldid=prev Khajidha: /* It's still a family group even if you don't name the family */ 2022-05-08T01:35:34Z

<p><span class="autocomment">It's still a family group even if you don't name the family</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:35, 8 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l15">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::So you think Bludgeon summoned a demon to, like, break windows in a physical house, and not to kill his enemies? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:57, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::So you think Bludgeon summoned a demon to, like, break windows in a physical house, and not to kill his enemies? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:57, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Do you think every instance of "house" in poetic language refers to families? It's just a figurative way of saying "kill my enemies where they are". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:11, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Do you think every instance of "house" in poetic language refers to families? It's just a figurative way of saying "kill my enemies where they are". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:11, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::I'm with Thy. This is obviously playing off Biblical language such as 2 Chronicles 22:8 - "And when Jehu was executing judgment on the house of Ahab, he met the princes of Judah and the sons of Ahaziah’s brothers, who attended Ahaziah, and he killed them." --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 21:35, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Khajidha https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:House_(group)&diff=1609713&oldid=prev Saix: /* It's still a family group even if you don't name the family */ 2022-05-07T20:15:32Z

<p><span class="autocomment">It's still a family group even if you don't name the family</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:15, 7 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Yes, words can mean different things in different contexts. Nobody here is disputing what "House of" means because that's not the language being used here. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:45, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Yes, words can mean different things in different contexts. Nobody here is disputing what "House of" means because that's not the language being used here. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:45, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::So you think Bludgeon summoned a demon to, like, break windows in a physical house, and not to kill his enemies? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:57, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::So you think Bludgeon summoned a demon to, like, break windows in a physical house, and not to kill his enemies? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:57, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Do you think every instance of "house" in poetic language refers to families? It's just a <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">metaphorical </del>way of saying "kill my enemies where they are". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:11, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Do you think every instance of "house" in poetic language refers to families? It's just a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">figurative </ins>way of saying "kill my enemies where they are". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:11, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Saix https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:House_(group)&diff=1609712&oldid=prev Saix: /* It's still a family group even if you don't name the family */ 2022-05-07T20:14:23Z

<p><span class="autocomment">It's still a family group even if you don't name the family</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:14, 7 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Yes, words can mean different things in different contexts. Nobody here is disputing what "House of" means because that's not the language being used here. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:45, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Yes, words can mean different things in different contexts. Nobody here is disputing what "House of" means because that's not the language being used here. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:45, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::So you think Bludgeon summoned a demon to, like, break windows in a physical house, and not to kill his enemies? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:57, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::So you think Bludgeon summoned a demon to, like, break windows in a physical house, and not to kill his enemies? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:57, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Do you think every instance of "house" in poetic language refers to families? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:11, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Do you think every instance of "house" in poetic language refers to families? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">It's just a metaphorical way of saying "kill my enemies where they are". </ins>[[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:11, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Saix https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:House_(group)&diff=1609711&oldid=prev Saix: /* It's still a family group even if you don't name the family */ 2022-05-07T20:11:31Z

<p><span class="autocomment">It's still a family group even if you don't name the family</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:11, 7 May 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Yes, words can mean different things in different contexts. Nobody here is disputing what "House of" means because that's not the language being used here. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:45, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Yes, words can mean different things in different contexts. Nobody here is disputing what "House of" means because that's not the language being used here. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:45, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::So you think Bludgeon summoned a demon to, like, break windows in a physical house, and not to kill his enemies? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:57, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::So you think Bludgeon summoned a demon to, like, break windows in a physical house, and not to kill his enemies? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:57, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::Do you think every instance of "house" in poetic language refers to families? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:11, 7 May 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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