https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ALaser_Cycle_%28Legacy%29Talk:Laser Cycle (Legacy) - Revision history2026-09-12T20:17:55ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.45.3https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Laser_Cycle_(Legacy)&diff=1851370&oldid=prevS.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 at 20:19, 11 July 20252025-07-11T20:19:50Z<p></p>
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</table>S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Laser_Cycle_(Legacy)&diff=1851352&oldid=prevS.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 at 19:16, 11 July 20252025-07-11T19:16:30Z<p></p>
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</table>S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Laser_Cycle_(Legacy)&diff=1851335&oldid=prevArren1234 at 18:20, 11 July 20252025-07-11T18:20:43Z<p></p>
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</table>Arren1234https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Laser_Cycle_(Legacy)&diff=1851301&oldid=prevS.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 at 12:57, 11 July 20252025-07-11T12:57:53Z<p></p>
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</table>S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Laser_Cycle_(Legacy)&diff=1715093&oldid=prevItsWalky at 04:33, 16 August 20232023-08-16T04:33:11Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::You know... Poliwag suggestion is the most sensible. I mean Mark Maher Instagram post is a thing, and so unless a retcon occur, I think were stuck at the moment.--[[User:Pizza-king1|Pizza-king1]] ([[User talk:Pizza-king1|talk]]) 22:35, 15 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::You know... Poliwag suggestion is the most sensible. I mean Mark Maher Instagram post is a thing, and so unless a retcon occur, I think were stuck at the moment.--[[User:Pizza-king1|Pizza-king1]] ([[User talk:Pizza-king1|talk]]) 22:35, 15 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
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</table>ItsWalkyhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Laser_Cycle_(Legacy)&diff=1715091&oldid=prevItsWalky at 04:30, 16 August 20232023-08-16T04:30:24Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::You know... Poliwag suggestion is the most sensible. I mean Mark Maher Instagram post is a thing, and so unless a retcon occur, I think were stuck at the moment.--[[User:Pizza-king1|Pizza-king1]] ([[User talk:Pizza-king1|talk]]) 22:35, 15 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::You know... Poliwag suggestion is the most sensible. I mean Mark Maher Instagram post is a thing, and so unless a retcon occur, I think were stuck at the moment.--[[User:Pizza-king1|Pizza-king1]] ([[User talk:Pizza-king1|talk]]) 22:35, 15 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</del>::Voyager Siege Prime and Leade Class Siege Prime not only didn't ship in the same case because they're different size classes, but also at different times in the toyline. That example is not analagous to this at all. It's one case of deluxes sold to a retailer, featuring two G2 Jazzes. One got disambiguated by using its subgroup name. Sometimes characters get named by their subgroup when a name isn't available. We're not making a separate "Insecticon" page for Robot Heroes Shrapnel. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 00:30, 16 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Voyager Siege Prime and Leade Class Siege Prime not only didn't ship in the same case because they're different size classes, but also at different times in the toyline. That example is not analagous to this at all. It's one case of deluxes sold to a retailer, featuring two G2 Jazzes. One got disambiguated by using its subgroup name. Sometimes characters get named by their subgroup when a name isn't available. We're not making a separate "Insecticon" page for Robot Heroes Shrapnel. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 00:30, 16 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
</table>ItsWalkyhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Laser_Cycle_(Legacy)&diff=1715090&oldid=prevItsWalky at 04:30, 16 August 20232023-08-16T04:30:16Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I think we should just treat them like a combination those Classic Heroes Team chars (who were both G1 and Aligned) and Shadowstrip-give Laser Cycle its own page but leave it on Jazz's page due to the shared connection. And then put a footnote like with the Magnaboss components about how they could be the same or whatnot, but to be safe we gave them separate pages. Do the same with Silverstreak.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 22:22, 15 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I think we should just treat them like a combination those Classic Heroes Team chars (who were both G1 and Aligned) and Shadowstrip-give Laser Cycle its own page but leave it on Jazz's page due to the shared connection. And then put a footnote like with the Magnaboss components about how they could be the same or whatnot, but to be safe we gave them separate pages. Do the same with Silverstreak.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 22:22, 15 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::You know... Poliwag suggestion is the most sensible. I mean Mark Maher Instagram post is a thing, and so unless a retcon occur, I think were stuck at the moment.--[[User:Pizza-king1|Pizza-king1]] ([[User talk:Pizza-king1|talk]]) 22:35, 15 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::You know... Poliwag suggestion is the most sensible. I mean Mark Maher Instagram post is a thing, and so unless a retcon occur, I think were stuck at the moment.--[[User:Pizza-king1|Pizza-king1]] ([[User talk:Pizza-king1|talk]]) 22:35, 15 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
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</table>ItsWalkyhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Laser_Cycle_(Legacy)&diff=1715082&oldid=prevPizza-king1 at 02:35, 16 August 20232023-08-16T02:35:08Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Why is it that we still are not considering ''Legacy: Evolution'' Laser Cycle to be a separate character? "G2 Universe Laser Cycle" was released with its own name side-by-side with "Jazz Universe Jazz". That says to me Hasbro considers them to be different in contrast to ''Siege'' "Optimus Prime" and "Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime" who are the same. Hasbro did not name this toy "Cycle Jazz" or "Jazz Cycle Mode" or whatnot just as Cloudcover was not called "G2 Universe Ramjet" when it would have been easy for Hasbro not to assign Cloudcover a new-character trademark. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:16, 15 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Why is it that we still are not considering ''Legacy: Evolution'' Laser Cycle to be a separate character? "G2 Universe Laser Cycle" was released with its own name side-by-side with "Jazz Universe Jazz". That says to me Hasbro considers them to be different in contrast to ''Siege'' "Optimus Prime" and "Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime" who are the same. Hasbro did not name this toy "Cycle Jazz" or "Jazz Cycle Mode" or whatnot just as Cloudcover was not called "G2 Universe Ramjet" when it would have been easy for Hasbro not to assign Cloudcover a new-character trademark. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:16, 15 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I think we should just treat them like a combination those Classic Heroes Team chars (who were both G1 and Aligned) and Shadowstrip-give Laser Cycle its own page but leave it on Jazz's page due to the shared connection. And then put a footnote like with the Magnaboss components about how they could be the same or whatnot, but to be safe we gave them separate pages. Do the same with Silverstreak.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 22:22, 15 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I think we should just treat them like a combination those Classic Heroes Team chars (who were both G1 and Aligned) and Shadowstrip-give Laser Cycle its own page but leave it on Jazz's page due to the shared connection. And then put a footnote like with the Magnaboss components about how they could be the same or whatnot, but to be safe we gave them separate pages. Do the same with Silverstreak.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 22:22, 15 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Pizza-king1https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Laser_Cycle_(Legacy)&diff=1715080&oldid=prevPoliwag06 at 02:22, 16 August 20232023-08-16T02:22:39Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Why is it that we still are not considering ''Legacy: Evolution'' Laser Cycle to be a separate character? "G2 Universe Laser Cycle" was released with its own name side-by-side with "Jazz Universe Jazz". That says to me Hasbro considers them to be different in contrast to ''Siege'' "Optimus Prime" and "Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime" who are the same. Hasbro did not name this toy "Cycle Jazz" or "Jazz Cycle Mode" or whatnot just as Cloudcover was not called "G2 Universe Ramjet" when it would have been easy for Hasbro not to assign Cloudcover a new-character trademark. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:16, 15 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Why is it that we still are not considering ''Legacy: Evolution'' Laser Cycle to be a separate character? "G2 Universe Laser Cycle" was released with its own name side-by-side with "Jazz Universe Jazz". That says to me Hasbro considers them to be different in contrast to ''Siege'' "Optimus Prime" and "Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime" who are the same. Hasbro did not name this toy "Cycle Jazz" or "Jazz Cycle Mode" or whatnot just as Cloudcover was not called "G2 Universe Ramjet" when it would have been easy for Hasbro not to assign Cloudcover a new-character trademark. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:16, 15 August 2023 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
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