Talk:List of Japanese ID numbers - Revision history

Payres at 09:11, 4 October 2021

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	:::"'''ID numbers''' are a classification system used throughout the [[Transformers brand]] to numerically identify each toy sold within a [[franchises\|franchise]]'s toyline. Historically, they have been used primarily by [[TakaraTomy]] (originally Takara), but [[Hasbro]] has been known to use its own systems as well. ID numbers provide a form of "order" to each toyline that uses them, allowing collectors to more easily identify specific figures."		:::"'''ID numbers''' are a classification system used throughout the [[Transformers brand]] to numerically identify each toy sold within a [[franchises\|franchise]]'s toyline. Historically, they have been used primarily by [[TakaraTomy]] (originally Takara), but [[Hasbro]] has been known to use its own systems as well. ID numbers provide a form of "order" to each toyline that uses them, allowing collectors to more easily identify specific figures."
	:::I used some of Saix's intro text at the end. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (EDT)		:::I used some of Saix's intro text at the end. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (EDT)

	~~Please keep it separate - it's JAPANESE ID numbers and a distinct subset of the overall ID Numbers. Link to it from a Hasbro ID Numers page, sure.~~

	And while we're on the subject..... PLEASE can we go back to the older table format which was much easier to use and look at? Yes I get it consumed space, but the layout worked. --[[User:payres\|payres]] ([[User talk:payres\|talk]]) 10:10, 04 October 2021 (BST)

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	As it stands, the other sections are going to need more fleshing out as we've been slowly moving this page to be more informative than just a page full of compiled lists (because ''[[Transformers Wiki:Policies#We Hate Lists\|We Hate Lists]]''). I started somewhat of a structure (with some tweaking by Nevermore) for the G1 section, but I'm a little bit lost when it comes to most of the other lines listed here, so people with the expertise who can help out on those would be very much appreciated. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 08:08, 8 September 2021 (EDT)		As it stands, the other sections are going to need more fleshing out as we've been slowly moving this page to be more informative than just a page full of compiled lists (because ''[[Transformers Wiki:Policies#We Hate Lists\|We Hate Lists]]''). I started somewhat of a structure (with some tweaking by Nevermore) for the G1 section, but I'm a little bit lost when it comes to most of the other lines listed here, so people with the expertise who can help out on those would be very much appreciated. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 08:08, 8 September 2021 (EDT)


			Please keep it separate - it's JAPANESE ID numbers and a distinct subset of the overall ID Numbers. Link to it from a Hasbro ID Numers page, sure.

			And while we're on the subject..... PLEASE can we go back to the older table format which was much easier to use and look at? Yes I get it consumed space, but the layout worked. --[[User:Payres\|Payres]] ([[User talk:Payres\|talk]]) 10:10, 04 October 2021 (BST)

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	:::"'''ID numbers''' are a classification system used throughout the [[Transformers brand]] to numerically identify each toy sold within a [[franchises\|franchise]]'s toyline. Historically, they have been used primarily by [[TakaraTomy]] (originally Takara), but [[Hasbro]] has been known to use its own systems as well. ID numbers provide a form of "order" to each toyline that uses them, allowing collectors to more easily identify specific figures."		:::"'''ID numbers''' are a classification system used throughout the [[Transformers brand]] to numerically identify each toy sold within a [[franchises\|franchise]]'s toyline. Historically, they have been used primarily by [[TakaraTomy]] (originally Takara), but [[Hasbro]] has been known to use its own systems as well. ID numbers provide a form of "order" to each toyline that uses them, allowing collectors to more easily identify specific figures."
	:::I used some of Saix's intro text at the end. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (EDT)		:::I used some of Saix's intro text at the end. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (EDT)

			Please keep it separate - it's JAPANESE ID numbers and a distinct subset of the overall ID Numbers. Link to it from a Hasbro ID Numers page, sure.

			And while we're on the subject..... PLEASE can we go back to the older table format which was much easier to use and look at? Yes I get it consumed space, but the layout worked. --[[User:payres\|payres]] ([[User talk:payres\|talk]]) 10:10, 04 October 2021 (BST)

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Fanofcoolstuff27: /* Move continued and fleshing out */ new section

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	:::"'''ID numbers''' are a classification system used throughout the [[Transformers brand]] to numerically identify each toy sold within a [[franchises\|franchise]]'s toyline. Historically, they have been used primarily by [[TakaraTomy]] (originally Takara), but [[Hasbro]] has been known to use its own systems as well. ID numbers provide a form of "order" to each toyline that uses them, allowing collectors to more easily identify specific figures."		:::"'''ID numbers''' are a classification system used throughout the [[Transformers brand]] to numerically identify each toy sold within a [[franchises\|franchise]]'s toyline. Historically, they have been used primarily by [[TakaraTomy]] (originally Takara), but [[Hasbro]] has been known to use its own systems as well. ID numbers provide a form of "order" to each toyline that uses them, allowing collectors to more easily identify specific figures."
	:::I used some of Saix's intro text at the end. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (EDT)		:::I used some of Saix's intro text at the end. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (EDT)

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			So just to reiterate what was said above and on the main page, Hasbro has used ID numbers off and on for years now with things like ''Alternators'' and ''Cyberverse'' (the DOTM/''Prime''-era ''[[Cyberverse (toyline)\|Cyberverse]]'', not the most recent series). The idea we had on Discord was to move this to "List of ID numbers" so that we can include the Hasbro ones in the mix.

			''If'' this page starts to get a bit unwieldy, then the other plan is to move this to "List of TakaraTomy ID numbers" and to make a suite with "List of Hasbro ID numbers" split out onto a separate page. As far as I'm aware the page is still alright in terms of length and doesn't cause too much issue, so I think we'll be good including the Hasbro stuff here in the mean time.

			As it stands, the other sections are going to need more fleshing out as we've been slowly moving this page to be more informative than just a page full of compiled lists (because ''[[Transformers Wiki:Policies#We Hate Lists\|We Hate Lists]]''). I started somewhat of a structure (with some tweaking by Nevermore) for the G1 section, but I'm a little bit lost when it comes to most of the other lines listed here, so people with the expertise who can help out on those would be very much appreciated. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 08:08, 8 September 2021 (EDT)

Sabrblade: /* Move */

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	:Here's an idea. What if we move it to simply "ID number", add an informative intro at the top about what ID numbers are and summarize their role in the history of the brand, making this into a full-blown article unto itself instead just a glorified list page? --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 14:15, 20 August 2021 (EDT)		:Here's an idea. What if we move it to simply "ID number", add an informative intro at the top about what ID numbers are and summarize their role in the history of the brand, making this into a full-blown article unto itself instead just a glorified list page? --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 14:15, 20 August 2021 (EDT)
	::If you're willing to write something up, then I'm all for it. It's a lot easier to justify a list like this if there's explanatory prose to accompany it. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 00:25, 21 August 2021 (EDT)		::If you're willing to write something up, then I'm all for it. It's a lot easier to justify a list like this if there's explanatory prose to accompany it. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 00:25, 21 August 2021 (EDT)
			:::Something like this as a start:
			:::"'''ID numbers''' are a classification system used throughout the [[Transformers brand]] to numerically identify each toy sold within a [[franchises\|franchise]]'s toyline. Historically, they have been used primarily by [[TakaraTomy]] (originally Takara), but [[Hasbro]] has been known to use its own systems as well. ID numbers provide a form of "order" to each toyline that uses them, allowing collectors to more easily identify specific figures."
			:::I used some of Saix's intro text at the end. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (EDT)

Cyberlink420: /* Move */

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	Feel free to speak up if you feel otherwise. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 20:13, 19 August 2021 (EDT)		Feel free to speak up if you feel otherwise. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 20:13, 19 August 2021 (EDT)
	:Here's an idea. What if we move it to simply "ID number", add an informative intro at the top about what ID numbers are and summarize their role in the history of the brand, making this into a full-blown article unto itself instead just a glorified list page? --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 14:15, 20 August 2021 (EDT)		:Here's an idea. What if we move it to simply "ID number", add an informative intro at the top about what ID numbers are and summarize their role in the history of the brand, making this into a full-blown article unto itself instead just a glorified list page? --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 14:15, 20 August 2021 (EDT)
			::If you're willing to write something up, then I'm all for it. It's a lot easier to justify a list like this if there's explanatory prose to accompany it. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 00:25, 21 August 2021 (EDT)

Sabrblade: /* Move */

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	Feel free to speak up if you feel otherwise. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 20:13, 19 August 2021 (EDT)		Feel free to speak up if you feel otherwise. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 20:13, 19 August 2021 (EDT)
	:Here's ~~a thought~~. What if we move it to simply "ID number", add an informative intro at the top about what ID numbers are and summarize their role in the history of the brand, making this into a full-blown article unto itself instead just a glorified list page? --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 14:15, 20 August 2021 (EDT)		:Here's an idea. What if we move it to simply "ID number", add an informative intro at the top about what ID numbers are and summarize their role in the history of the brand, making this into a full-blown article unto itself instead just a glorified list page? --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 14:15, 20 August 2021 (EDT)

Sabrblade: /* Move */

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	Feel free to speak up if you feel otherwise. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 20:13, 19 August 2021 (EDT)		Feel free to speak up if you feel otherwise. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 20:13, 19 August 2021 (EDT)
			:Here's a thought. What if we move it to simply "ID number", add an informative intro at the top about what ID numbers are and summarize their role in the history of the brand, making this into a full-blown article unto itself instead just a glorified list page? --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 14:15, 20 August 2021 (EDT)

Dark T Zeratul at 04:51, 20 August 2021

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	::I could be wrong, but didn't the live-action film toylines opt to call the characters and factions by their English names rather than "Cybertrons" and "Destrons"? [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 00:44, 20 August 2021 (EDT)		::I could be wrong, but didn't the live-action film toylines opt to call the characters and factions by their English names rather than "Cybertrons" and "Destrons"? [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 00:44, 20 August 2021 (EDT)
	:::If our own pages are to be believed, yes. Animated as well. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 00:50, 20 August 2021 (EDT)		:::If our own pages are to be believed, yes. Animated as well. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 00:50, 20 August 2021 (EDT)
	::::Ah, good to know. I'~~m done for~~ the ~~night but I can fix that real quick~~. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 00:51, 20 August 2021 (EDT)		::::Ah, good to know. I'll remember that in the future. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 00:51, 20 August 2021 (EDT)

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Dark T Zeratul at 04:51, 20 August 2021

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	::I could be wrong, but didn't the live-action film toylines opt to call the characters and factions by their English names rather than "Cybertrons" and "Destrons"? [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 00:44, 20 August 2021 (EDT)		::I could be wrong, but didn't the live-action film toylines opt to call the characters and factions by their English names rather than "Cybertrons" and "Destrons"? [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 00:44, 20 August 2021 (EDT)
	:::If our own pages are to be believed, yes. Animated as well. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 00:50, 20 August 2021 (EDT)		:::If our own pages are to be believed, yes. Animated as well. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 00:50, 20 August 2021 (EDT)
			::::Ah, good to know. I'm done for the night but I can fix that real quick. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 00:51, 20 August 2021 (EDT)

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	Just thought I should let you all know, there was a discussion on Discord that suggested we move the page to "List of ID numbers" due to Hasbro having their own numbering system with the current toylines, that way we can document both systems which are pretty different from each other and show off the differences. I am for this change.		Just thought I should let you all know, there was a discussion on Discord that suggested we move the page to "List of ID numbers" due to Hasbro having their own numbering system with the current toylines, that way we can document both systems which are pretty different from each other and show off the differences. I am for this change.

	Feel free to speak up if you feel otherwise. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 20:13, 19 August 2021 (EDT)		Feel free to speak up if you feel otherwise. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 20:13, 19 August 2021 (EDT)

Cyberlink420 at 04:50, 20 August 2021

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	:I got most of the Beast Wars section, though I'm not sure what that table at the end is after the VS sets. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 15:56, 19 August 2021 (EDT)		:I got most of the Beast Wars section, though I'm not sure what that table at the end is after the VS sets. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 15:56, 19 August 2021 (EDT)
	::I could be wrong, but didn't the live-action film toylines opt to call the characters and factions by their English names rather than "Cybertrons" and "Destrons"? [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 00:44, 20 August 2021 (EDT)		::I could be wrong, but didn't the live-action film toylines opt to call the characters and factions by their English names rather than "Cybertrons" and "Destrons"? [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 00:44, 20 August 2021 (EDT)
			:::If our own pages are to be believed, yes. Animated as well. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 00:50, 20 August 2021 (EDT)
	==Move==		==Move==
	Just thought I should let you all know, there was a discussion on Discord that suggested we move the page to "List of ID numbers" due to Hasbro having their own numbering system with the current toylines, that way we can document both systems which are pretty different from each other and show off the differences. I am for this change.		Just thought I should let you all know, there was a discussion on Discord that suggested we move the page to "List of ID numbers" due to Hasbro having their own numbering system with the current toylines, that way we can document both systems which are pretty different from each other and show off the differences. I am for this change.

	Feel free to speak up if you feel otherwise. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 20:13, 19 August 2021 (EDT)		Feel free to speak up if you feel otherwise. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 20:13, 19 August 2021 (EDT)

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	:Here's an idea. What if we move it to simply "ID number", add an informative intro at the top about what ID numbers are and summarize their role in the history of the brand, making this into a full-blown article unto itself instead just a glorified list page? --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 14:15, 20 August 2021 (EDT)		:Here's an idea. What if we move it to simply "ID number", add an informative intro at the top about what ID numbers are and summarize their role in the history of the brand, making this into a full-blown article unto itself instead just a glorified list page? --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 14:15, 20 August 2021 (EDT)
	::If you're willing to write something up, then I'm all for it. It's a lot easier to justify a list like this if there's explanatory prose to accompany it. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 00:25, 21 August 2021 (EDT)		::If you're willing to write something up, then I'm all for it. It's a lot easier to justify a list like this if there's explanatory prose to accompany it. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 00:25, 21 August 2021 (EDT)
			:::Something like this as a start:
			:::"'''ID numbers''' are a classification system used throughout the [[Transformers brand]] to numerically identify each toy sold within a [[franchises\|franchise]]'s toyline. Historically, they have been used primarily by [[TakaraTomy]] (originally Takara), but [[Hasbro]] has been known to use its own systems as well. ID numbers provide a form of "order" to each toyline that uses them, allowing collectors to more easily identify specific figures."
			:::I used some of Saix's intro text at the end. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 00:51, 21 August 2021 (EDT)

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	Feel free to speak up if you feel otherwise. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 20:13, 19 August 2021 (EDT)		Feel free to speak up if you feel otherwise. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27\|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27\|talk]]) 20:13, 19 August 2021 (EDT)
	:Here's an idea. What if we move it to simply "ID number", add an informative intro at the top about what ID numbers are and summarize their role in the history of the brand, making this into a full-blown article unto itself instead just a glorified list page? --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 14:15, 20 August 2021 (EDT)		:Here's an idea. What if we move it to simply "ID number", add an informative intro at the top about what ID numbers are and summarize their role in the history of the brand, making this into a full-blown article unto itself instead just a glorified list page? --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 14:15, 20 August 2021 (EDT)
			::If you're willing to write something up, then I'm all for it. It's a lot easier to justify a list like this if there's explanatory prose to accompany it. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 00:25, 21 August 2021 (EDT)