Talk:Magnus Hammer - Revision history

https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AMagnus_Hammer Talk:Magnus Hammer - Revision history 2026-09-12T23:35:42Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Magnus_Hammer&diff=731779&oldid=prev Abates at 09:22, 13 July 2012 2012-07-13T09:22:50Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 09:22, 13 July 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l21">Line 21:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 21:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The [[AllSpark Almanac]] calls it a "Stormbreaker mass-hammer." Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:11, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The [[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac|</ins>AllSpark Almanac]] calls it a "Stormbreaker mass-hammer." Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:11, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:A? As in this is something there is possibly more than one of? Because that might be workable. The AllSpark's container was forged by '''a''' Stormbreaker mass-hammer, which subsequently became known as '''the''' Magnus Hammer, part of the regalia of the office of Magnus.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 12:17, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:A? As in this is something there is possibly more than one of? Because that might be workable. The AllSpark's container was forged by '''a''' Stormbreaker mass-hammer, which subsequently became known as '''the''' Magnus Hammer, part of the regalia of the office of Magnus.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 12:17, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Only if it absorbed a sliver of the AllSpark's power (possibly by design, even, to make the forging of the container possible at all), surely? All the 'toon references to it were not just as a symbol of office, but ALSO as a uniquely powerful weapon, ja? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:31, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Only if it absorbed a sliver of the AllSpark's power (possibly by design, even, to make the forging of the container possible at all), surely? All the 'toon references to it were not just as a symbol of office, but ALSO as a uniquely powerful weapon, ja? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:31, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Abates https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Magnus_Hammer&diff=354830&oldid=prev ItsWalky at 01:05, 22 August 2009 2009-08-22T01:05:07Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:05, 22 August 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l28">Line 28:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 28:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Glanced over the bringer/breaker bit at first there. Of course, it might have been a glitch while trying to rationalise the toy names, but given all the Thor jokes that have followed this around since its' introduction (especially Marvel-Thor jokes, down to this article's caption), I wonder if "Stormbreaker" isn't a Beta Ray Bill reference... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:48, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Glanced over the bringer/breaker bit at first there. Of course, it might have been a glitch while trying to rationalise the toy names, but given all the Thor jokes that have followed this around since its' introduction (especially Marvel-Thor jokes, down to this article's caption), I wonder if "Stormbreaker" isn't a Beta Ray Bill reference... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:48, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::I assume it's a genuine mistake. I don't think Jim Sorenson would make a purposeful error just to make a reference. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:05, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

ItsWalky https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Magnus_Hammer&diff=354772&oldid=prev SanityOrMadness at 22:48, 21 August 2009 2009-08-21T22:48:26Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:48, 21 August 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l19">Line 19:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 19:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Sounds more like "there's a [[micro-continuity]] where it was made by aliens and called Stormbringer - and Magnus took on a really ugly paint job and changed his ways so as not to get tonked by Shockwave - but that's not what happened in the cartoon". - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:11, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Sounds more like "there's a [[micro-continuity]] where it was made by aliens and called Stormbringer - and Magnus took on a really ugly paint job and changed his ways so as not to get tonked by Shockwave - but that's not what happened in the cartoon". - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:11, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I think it is a micro-continuity only if it contradicts events, such as Ultra Magnus taking on a new paint job (even then, he's not dead yet. It could still happen). I don't know why you are eager to relegate the alien craftmanship to micro-continuity. Any information to fill in a sparse backstory is good information to me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:34, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I think it is a micro-continuity only if it contradicts events, such as Ultra Magnus taking on a new paint job (even then, he's not dead yet. It could still happen). I don't know why you are eager to relegate the alien craftmanship to micro-continuity. Any information to fill in a sparse backstory is good information to me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:34, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The [[AllSpark Almanac]] calls it a "Stormbreaker mass-hammer." Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:11, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The [[AllSpark Almanac]] calls it a "Stormbreaker mass-hammer." Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:11, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l25">Line 25:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 26:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Thing is, it's now been called both a Storm'''bringer''' hammer and a Storm'''breaker''' hammer. And the Magnus Hammer. The Almanac writeup makes it sound like "Magnus Hammer" is the weapon's title, but "Stormbreaker mass-hammer" is what ... make/model it is? It controls local weather, and legend says it forged the AllSpark container way way long ago. Those last bits we knew. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:35, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Thing is, it's now been called both a Storm'''bringer''' hammer and a Storm'''breaker''' hammer. And the Magnus Hammer. The Almanac writeup makes it sound like "Magnus Hammer" is the weapon's title, but "Stormbreaker mass-hammer" is what ... make/model it is? It controls local weather, and legend says it forged the AllSpark container way way long ago. Those last bits we knew. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:35, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::That's my interpretation. That the mass-hammers were not unique objects, but this one took on special significance due to its role in being used to contain the AllSpark, and due to this significance went on to be passed down from Magnus to Magnus.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 18:41, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::That's my interpretation. That the mass-hammers were not unique objects, but this one took on special significance due to its role in being used to contain the AllSpark, and due to this significance went on to be passed down from Magnus to Magnus.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 18:41, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::Glanced over the bringer/breaker bit at first there. Of course, it might have been a glitch while trying to rationalise the toy names, but given all the Thor jokes that have followed this around since its' introduction (especially Marvel-Thor jokes, down to this article's caption), I wonder if "Stormbreaker" isn't a Beta Ray Bill reference... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:48, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

SanityOrMadness https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Magnus_Hammer&diff=354769&oldid=prev Rosicrucian at 22:41, 21 August 2009 2009-08-21T22:41:31Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:41, 21 August 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l24">Line 24:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 24:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Only if it absorbed a sliver of the AllSpark's power (possibly by design, even, to make the forging of the container possible at all), surely? All the 'toon references to it were not just as a symbol of office, but ALSO as a uniquely powerful weapon, ja? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:31, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Only if it absorbed a sliver of the AllSpark's power (possibly by design, even, to make the forging of the container possible at all), surely? All the 'toon references to it were not just as a symbol of office, but ALSO as a uniquely powerful weapon, ja? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:31, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Thing is, it's now been called both a Storm'''bringer''' hammer and a Storm'''breaker''' hammer. And the Magnus Hammer. The Almanac writeup makes it sound like "Magnus Hammer" is the weapon's title, but "Stormbreaker mass-hammer" is what ... make/model it is? It controls local weather, and legend says it forged the AllSpark container way way long ago. Those last bits we knew. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:35, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Thing is, it's now been called both a Storm'''bringer''' hammer and a Storm'''breaker''' hammer. And the Magnus Hammer. The Almanac writeup makes it sound like "Magnus Hammer" is the weapon's title, but "Stormbreaker mass-hammer" is what ... make/model it is? It controls local weather, and legend says it forged the AllSpark container way way long ago. Those last bits we knew. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:35, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::That's my interpretation. That the mass-hammers were not unique objects, but this one took on special significance due to its role in being used to contain the AllSpark, and due to this significance went on to be passed down from Magnus to Magnus.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 18:41, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Rosicrucian https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Magnus_Hammer&diff=354765&oldid=prev ItsWalky at 22:35, 21 August 2009 2009-08-21T22:35:33Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:35, 21 August 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l23">Line 23:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 23:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:A? As in this is something there is possibly more than one of? Because that might be workable. The AllSpark's container was forged by '''a''' Stormbreaker mass-hammer, which subsequently became known as '''the''' Magnus Hammer, part of the regalia of the office of Magnus.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 12:17, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:A? As in this is something there is possibly more than one of? Because that might be workable. The AllSpark's container was forged by '''a''' Stormbreaker mass-hammer, which subsequently became known as '''the''' Magnus Hammer, part of the regalia of the office of Magnus.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 12:17, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Only if it absorbed a sliver of the AllSpark's power (possibly by design, even, to make the forging of the container possible at all), surely? All the 'toon references to it were not just as a symbol of office, but ALSO as a uniquely powerful weapon, ja? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:31, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Only if it absorbed a sliver of the AllSpark's power (possibly by design, even, to make the forging of the container possible at all), surely? All the 'toon references to it were not just as a symbol of office, but ALSO as a uniquely powerful weapon, ja? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:31, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::Thing is, it's now been called both a Storm'''bringer''' hammer and a Storm'''breaker''' hammer. And the Magnus Hammer. The Almanac writeup makes it sound like "Magnus Hammer" is the weapon's title, but "Stormbreaker mass-hammer" is what ... make/model it is? It controls local weather, and legend says it forged the AllSpark container way way long ago. Those last bits we knew. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:35, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

ItsWalky https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Magnus_Hammer&diff=354762&oldid=prev SanityOrMadness at 22:31, 21 August 2009 2009-08-21T22:31:12Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:31, 21 August 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l22">Line 22:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 22:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The [[AllSpark Almanac]] calls it a "Stormbreaker mass-hammer." Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:11, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The [[AllSpark Almanac]] calls it a "Stormbreaker mass-hammer." Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:11, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:A? As in this is something there is possibly more than one of? Because that might be workable. The AllSpark's container was forged by '''a''' Stormbreaker mass-hammer, which subsequently became known as '''the''' Magnus Hammer, part of the regalia of the office of Magnus.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 12:17, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:A? As in this is something there is possibly more than one of? Because that might be workable. The AllSpark's container was forged by '''a''' Stormbreaker mass-hammer, which subsequently became known as '''the''' Magnus Hammer, part of the regalia of the office of Magnus.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 12:17, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::Only if it absorbed a sliver of the AllSpark's power (possibly by design, even, to make the forging of the container possible at all), surely? All the 'toon references to it were not just as a symbol of office, but ALSO as a uniquely powerful weapon, ja? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:31, 21 August 2009 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

SanityOrMadness https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Magnus_Hammer&diff=354056&oldid=prev Rosicrucian at 16:17, 20 August 2009 2009-08-20T16:17:22Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:17, 20 August 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l21">Line 21:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 21:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The [[AllSpark Almanac]] calls it a "Stormbreaker mass-hammer." Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:11, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The [[AllSpark Almanac]] calls it a "Stormbreaker mass-hammer." Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:11, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:A? As in this is something there is possibly more than one of? Because that might be workable. The AllSpark's container was forged by '''a''' Stormbreaker mass-hammer, which subsequently became known as '''the''' Magnus Hammer, part of the regalia of the office of Magnus.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 12:17, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Rosicrucian https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Magnus_Hammer&diff=354051&oldid=prev ItsWalky at 16:11, 20 August 2009 2009-08-20T16:11:37Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:11, 20 August 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l19">Line 19:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 19:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Sounds more like "there's a [[micro-continuity]] where it was made by aliens and called Stormbringer - and Magnus took on a really ugly paint job and changed his ways so as not to get tonked by Shockwave - but that's not what happened in the cartoon". - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:11, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Sounds more like "there's a [[micro-continuity]] where it was made by aliens and called Stormbringer - and Magnus took on a really ugly paint job and changed his ways so as not to get tonked by Shockwave - but that's not what happened in the cartoon". - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:11, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I think it is a micro-continuity only if it contradicts events, such as Ultra Magnus taking on a new paint job (even then, he's not dead yet. It could still happen). I don't know why you are eager to relegate the alien craftmanship to micro-continuity. Any information to fill in a sparse backstory is good information to me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:34, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I think it is a micro-continuity only if it contradicts events, such as Ultra Magnus taking on a new paint job (even then, he's not dead yet. It could still happen). I don't know why you are eager to relegate the alien craftmanship to micro-continuity. Any information to fill in a sparse backstory is good information to me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:34, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The [[AllSpark Almanac]] calls it a "Stormbreaker mass-hammer." Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:11, 20 August 2009 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

ItsWalky https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Magnus_Hammer&diff=300334&oldid=prev Starfield at 22:34, 26 May 2009 2009-05-26T22:34:42Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:34, 26 May 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l18">Line 18:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 18:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::If by "all along" you mean "not at all for the first two seasons". - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 18:06, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::If by "all along" you mean "not at all for the first two seasons". - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 18:06, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Sounds more like "there's a [[micro-continuity]] where it was made by aliens and called Stormbringer - and Magnus took on a really ugly paint job and changed his ways so as not to get tonked by Shockwave - but that's not what happened in the cartoon". - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:11, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Sounds more like "there's a [[micro-continuity]] where it was made by aliens and called Stormbringer - and Magnus took on a really ugly paint job and changed his ways so as not to get tonked by Shockwave - but that's not what happened in the cartoon". - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:11, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::I think it is a micro-continuity only if it contradicts events, such as Ultra Magnus taking on a new paint job (even then, he's not dead yet. It could still happen). I don't know why you are eager to relegate the alien craftmanship to micro-continuity. Any information to fill in a sparse backstory is good information to me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:34, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Starfield https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Magnus_Hammer&diff=300324&oldid=prev SanityOrMadness at 22:11, 26 May 2009 2009-05-26T22:11:54Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:11, 26 May 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l17">Line 17:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 17:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:So it sounds like you are saying "Stormbringer" was the name all along, and doesn't just refer to the Roadbuster recolor. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:53, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:So it sounds like you are saying "Stormbringer" was the name all along, and doesn't just refer to the Roadbuster recolor. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:53, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::If by "all along" you mean "not at all for the first two seasons". - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 18:06, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::If by "all along" you mean "not at all for the first two seasons". - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 18:06, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::Sounds more like "there's a [[micro-continuity]] where it was made by aliens and called Stormbringer - and Magnus took on a really ugly paint job and changed his ways so as not to get tonked by Shockwave - but that's not what happened in the cartoon". - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:11, 26 May 2009 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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