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		<title>Dark T Zeratul at 23:13, 16 August 2021</title>
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		<updated>2021-08-16T23:13:56Z</updated>

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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 23:13, 16 August 2021&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l8&quot;&gt;Line 8:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:After the talk on Discord, I&amp;#039;m all for merging this in with [[Ginrai (robot)]]. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 19:03, 15 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:After the talk on Discord, I&amp;#039;m all for merging this in with [[Ginrai (robot)]]. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 19:03, 15 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::Fully agree that this is an odd page, because the facts aren&amp;#039;t really &amp;quot;competing&amp;quot; at all. A toy that plainly started life as a Delta Magnus/Magna Convoy thing but was then just swapped out for Ginrai when that mold became a thing. The fictional ins and outs of the character (namely that he probably is two separate guys rather than a guy and a transtector) are irrelevant—heck, they&amp;#039;re just on the same level as every other western reinterpretation of a Japan-original character. Just fold it in and put this stuff in a sane way in the notes. —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 17:43, 16 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::Fully agree that this is an odd page, because the facts aren&amp;#039;t really &amp;quot;competing&amp;quot; at all. A toy that plainly started life as a Delta Magnus/Magna Convoy thing but was then just swapped out for Ginrai when that mold became a thing. The fictional ins and outs of the character (namely that he probably is two separate guys rather than a guy and a transtector) are irrelevant—heck, they&amp;#039;re just on the same level as every other western reinterpretation of a Japan-original character. Just fold it in and put this stuff in a sane way in the notes. —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 17:43, 16 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:::I took a stab at rewriting that section to make it more clear that the figure is definitely Ginrai but probably started as Ultra Magnus. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 19:13, 16 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Dark T Zeratul</name></author>
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		<title>The Wadapan at 21:43, 16 August 2021</title>
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		<updated>2021-08-16T21:43:43Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l7&quot;&gt;Line 7:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#039;ve got a hankering for some shipshaping, but I know if I just do it someone will complain, so checking in here before I go ahead. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 14:36, 15 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#039;ve got a hankering for some shipshaping, but I know if I just do it someone will complain, so checking in here before I go ahead. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 14:36, 15 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:After the talk on Discord, I&amp;#039;m all for merging this in with [[Ginrai (robot)]]. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 19:03, 15 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:After the talk on Discord, I&amp;#039;m all for merging this in with [[Ginrai (robot)]]. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 19:03, 15 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::Fully agree that this is an odd page, because the facts aren&#039;t really &quot;competing&quot; at all. A toy that plainly started life as a Delta Magnus/Magna Convoy thing but was then just swapped out for Ginrai when that mold became a thing. The fictional ins and outs of the character (namely that he probably is two separate guys rather than a guy and a transtector) are irrelevant—heck, they&#039;re just on the same level as every other western reinterpretation of a Japan-original character. Just fold it in and put this stuff in a sane way in the notes. —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 17:43, 16 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>The Wadapan</name></author>
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		<title>Fanofcoolstuff27 at 23:03, 15 August 2021</title>
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		<updated>2021-08-15T23:03:30Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l6&quot;&gt;Line 6:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*&amp;quot;Some pre-release info suggested there was going to be a blue guy called &amp;#039;Magnus Prime (Super Ginrai)&amp;#039;!&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*&amp;quot;Some pre-release info suggested there was going to be a blue guy called &amp;#039;Magnus Prime (Super Ginrai)&amp;#039;!&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#039;ve got a hankering for some shipshaping, but I know if I just do it someone will complain, so checking in here before I go ahead. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 14:36, 15 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#039;ve got a hankering for some shipshaping, but I know if I just do it someone will complain, so checking in here before I go ahead. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 14:36, 15 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:After the talk on Discord, I&#039;m all for merging this in with [[Ginrai (robot)]]. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 19:03, 15 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Sky Shadow: Identity is pretty much settled at this point</title>
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		<updated>2021-08-15T18:36:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Identity is pretty much settled at this point&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Identity is pretty much settled at this point==&lt;br /&gt;
Some pals and I were goofin&amp;#039; around online when we started riffing on this page. Now that I actually look at the notes, though, its continued existence is kind of obscene. To paraphrase each of them:&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;He could be Ultra Magnus! Note: John Warden said it is not Ultra Magnus.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;John Warden ALSO said he was essentially Ginrai, and that he goes on your chunky Optimus shelf.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;It has Ginrai as a partner according to the Titan Master Crunch collector sheet! It could also be Ginrai, or the transtector who is also also called Ginrai.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Some pre-release info suggested there was going to be a blue guy called &amp;#039;Magnus Prime (Super Ginrai)&amp;#039;!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
I&amp;#039;ve got a hankering for some shipshaping, but I know if I just do it someone will complain, so checking in here before I go ahead. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 14:36, 15 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sky Shadow</name></author>
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