Talk:Malleus Minotaurus - Revision history

Cyberlink420 at 21:21, 29 February 2024

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	::Yeah but you also can't arrive at "Techronomicon" by plugging "hammer minotaur" into English -> Latin Google Translate. I definitely think this is a coincidence - it's a Solus-Prime-themed Wrecker, there's no reason why they would be making witchcraft references for the name. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]])		::Yeah but you also can't arrive at "Techronomicon" by plugging "hammer minotaur" into English -> Latin Google Translate. I definitely think this is a coincidence - it's a Solus-Prime-themed Wrecker, there's no reason why they would be making witchcraft references for the name. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]])
	:::I am not saying it was a witchcraft reference - I am saying it is a famous historical literary term. Far more people have heard the term "Magna Carta" than know how those words translate. We would still know what to say about an in-story TF concept named the Pyra Magna Carta. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 16:16, 29 February 2024 (EST)		:::I am not saying it was a witchcraft reference - I am saying it is a famous historical literary term. Far more people have heard the term "Magna Carta" than know how those words translate. We would still know what to say about an in-story TF concept named the Pyra Magna Carta. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 16:16, 29 February 2024 (EST)
	:::It's really not that hard to imagine somebody using the Latin for "hammer" (which isn't that uncommon a word) and then adding "Minotaurus" to it to make a name that sounds like a typical individual's name in Latin. Basic alliteration can arise independently and not be a reference to something you assume is universal knowledge. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 16:10, 29 February 2024 (EST)		::::It's really not that hard to imagine somebody using the Latin for "hammer" (which isn't that uncommon a word) and then adding "Minotaurus" to it to make a name that sounds like a typical individual's name in Latin. Basic alliteration can arise independently and not be a reference to something you assume is universal knowledge. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 16:10, 29 February 2024 (EST)
			:::::Yeah, unless any sort of official statement to the contrary pops up, the Maleficarum reference feels like a bit of a stretch. I think Occam's Razor applies here. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 16:21, 29 February 2024 (EST)

Thylacine 2000: /* Latin reference */

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	:It is impossible to believe that an alliterative, Latin-styled, "Malleus Msomethingsomething" name is '''not''' meant to allude to the only other well-known example of such a name construction ever. It is not a name style that someone in this day and age would invent without having heard of the real historical literary example first. If there were a TF concept called the Techronomicon, we wouldn't need to wait for an Instagram post confirming it, we could just say the name was inspired by the well-known pre-existing literary concept. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 14:49, 29 February 2024 (EST)		:It is impossible to believe that an alliterative, Latin-styled, "Malleus Msomethingsomething" name is '''not''' meant to allude to the only other well-known example of such a name construction ever. It is not a name style that someone in this day and age would invent without having heard of the real historical literary example first. If there were a TF concept called the Techronomicon, we wouldn't need to wait for an Instagram post confirming it, we could just say the name was inspired by the well-known pre-existing literary concept. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 14:49, 29 February 2024 (EST)
	::Yeah but you also can't arrive at "Techronomicon" by plugging "hammer minotaur" into English -> Latin Google Translate. I definitely think this is a coincidence - it's a Solus-Prime-themed Wrecker, there's no reason why they would be making witchcraft references for the name. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]])		::Yeah but you also can't arrive at "Techronomicon" by plugging "hammer minotaur" into English -> Latin Google Translate. I definitely think this is a coincidence - it's a Solus-Prime-themed Wrecker, there's no reason why they would be making witchcraft references for the name. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]])
			:::I am not saying it was a witchcraft reference - I am saying it is a famous historical literary term. Far more people have heard the term "Magna Carta" than know how those words translate. We would still know what to say about an in-story TF concept named the Pyra Magna Carta. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 16:16, 29 February 2024 (EST)
	:::It's really not that hard to imagine somebody using the Latin for "hammer" (which isn't that uncommon a word) and then adding "Minotaurus" to it to make a name that sounds like a typical individual's name in Latin. Basic alliteration can arise independently and not be a reference to something you assume is universal knowledge. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 16:10, 29 February 2024 (EST)		:::It's really not that hard to imagine somebody using the Latin for "hammer" (which isn't that uncommon a word) and then adding "Minotaurus" to it to make a name that sounds like a typical individual's name in Latin. Basic alliteration can arise independently and not be a reference to something you assume is universal knowledge. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 16:10, 29 February 2024 (EST)

Saix: /* Latin reference */

2024-02-29T21:10:56Z

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	:It is impossible to believe that an alliterative, Latin-styled, "Malleus Msomethingsomething" name is '''not''' meant to allude to the only other well-known example of such a name construction ever. It is not a name style that someone in this day and age would invent without having heard of the real historical literary example first. If there were a TF concept called the Techronomicon, we wouldn't need to wait for an Instagram post confirming it, we could just say the name was inspired by the well-known pre-existing literary concept. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 14:49, 29 February 2024 (EST)		:It is impossible to believe that an alliterative, Latin-styled, "Malleus Msomethingsomething" name is '''not''' meant to allude to the only other well-known example of such a name construction ever. It is not a name style that someone in this day and age would invent without having heard of the real historical literary example first. If there were a TF concept called the Techronomicon, we wouldn't need to wait for an Instagram post confirming it, we could just say the name was inspired by the well-known pre-existing literary concept. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 14:49, 29 February 2024 (EST)
	::Yeah but you also can't arrive at "Techronomicon" by plugging "hammer minotaur" into English -> Latin Google Translate. I definitely think this is a coincidence - it's a Solus-Prime-themed Wrecker, there's no reason why they would be making witchcraft references for the name. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]])		::Yeah but you also can't arrive at "Techronomicon" by plugging "hammer minotaur" into English -> Latin Google Translate. I definitely think this is a coincidence - it's a Solus-Prime-themed Wrecker, there's no reason why they would be making witchcraft references for the name. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]])
			:::It's really not that hard to imagine somebody using the Latin for "hammer" (which isn't that uncommon a word) and then adding "Minotaurus" to it to make a name that sounds like a typical individual's name in Latin. Basic alliteration can arise independently and not be a reference to something you assume is universal knowledge. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 16:10, 29 February 2024 (EST)

Jalaguy at 20:56, 29 February 2024

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	"Malleus Minotaurus" is a generically-structured Latin name. There's nothing to indicate it's based on "Malleus Maleficarum" beyond the second word also starting with 'M' and this character has shown no relation whatsoever with witchcraft. Ratchet works as a double pun because Ratched is a nurse and ratchets are used for mechanical repair (along with it being confirmed by pre-production documents). This doesn't. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 13:00, 29 February 2024 (EST)		"Malleus Minotaurus" is a generically-structured Latin name. There's nothing to indicate it's based on "Malleus Maleficarum" beyond the second word also starting with 'M' and this character has shown no relation whatsoever with witchcraft. Ratchet works as a double pun because Ratched is a nurse and ratchets are used for mechanical repair (along with it being confirmed by pre-production documents). This doesn't. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 13:00, 29 February 2024 (EST)
	:It is impossible to believe that an alliterative, Latin-styled, "Malleus Msomethingsomething" name is '''not''' meant to allude to the only other well-known example of such a name construction ever. It is not a name style that someone in this day and age would invent without having heard of the real historical literary example first. If there were a TF concept called the Techronomicon, we wouldn't need to wait for an Instagram post confirming it, we could just say the name was inspired by the well-known pre-existing literary concept. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 14:49, 29 February 2024 (EST)		:It is impossible to believe that an alliterative, Latin-styled, "Malleus Msomethingsomething" name is '''not''' meant to allude to the only other well-known example of such a name construction ever. It is not a name style that someone in this day and age would invent without having heard of the real historical literary example first. If there were a TF concept called the Techronomicon, we wouldn't need to wait for an Instagram post confirming it, we could just say the name was inspired by the well-known pre-existing literary concept. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 14:49, 29 February 2024 (EST)
			::Yeah but you also can't arrive at "Techronomicon" by plugging "hammer minotaur" into English -> Latin Google Translate. I definitely think this is a coincidence - it's a Solus-Prime-themed Wrecker, there's no reason why they would be making witchcraft references for the name. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]])

Thylacine 2000: /* Latin reference */

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	==Latin reference==		==Latin reference==
	"Malleus Minotaurus" is a generically-structured Latin name. There's nothing to indicate it's based on "Malleus Maleficarum" beyond the second word also starting with 'M' and this character has shown no relation whatsoever with witchcraft. Ratchet works as a double pun because Ratched is a nurse and ratchets are used for mechanical repair (along with it being confirmed by pre-production documents). This doesn't. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 13:00, 29 February 2024 (EST)		"Malleus Minotaurus" is a generically-structured Latin name. There's nothing to indicate it's based on "Malleus Maleficarum" beyond the second word also starting with 'M' and this character has shown no relation whatsoever with witchcraft. Ratchet works as a double pun because Ratched is a nurse and ratchets are used for mechanical repair (along with it being confirmed by pre-production documents). This doesn't. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 13:00, 29 February 2024 (EST)
			:It is impossible to believe that an alliterative, Latin-styled, "Malleus Msomethingsomething" name is '''not''' meant to allude to the only other well-known example of such a name construction ever. It is not a name style that someone in this day and age would invent without having heard of the real historical literary example first. If there were a TF concept called the Techronomicon, we wouldn't need to wait for an Instagram post confirming it, we could just say the name was inspired by the well-known pre-existing literary concept. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 14:49, 29 February 2024 (EST)

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==Latin reference==
"Malleus Minotaurus" is a generically-structured Latin name. There's nothing to indicate it's based on "Malleus Maleficarum" beyond the second word also starting with 'M' and this character has shown no relation whatsoever with witchcraft. Ratchet works as a double pun because Ratched is a nurse and ratchets are used for mechanical repair (along with it being confirmed by pre-production documents). This doesn't. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:00, 29 February 2024 (EST)

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	::Yeah but you also can't arrive at "Techronomicon" by plugging "hammer minotaur" into English -> Latin Google Translate. I definitely think this is a coincidence - it's a Solus-Prime-themed Wrecker, there's no reason why they would be making witchcraft references for the name. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]])		::Yeah but you also can't arrive at "Techronomicon" by plugging "hammer minotaur" into English -> Latin Google Translate. I definitely think this is a coincidence - it's a Solus-Prime-themed Wrecker, there's no reason why they would be making witchcraft references for the name. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]])
	:::I am not saying it was a witchcraft reference - I am saying it is a famous historical literary term. Far more people have heard the term "Magna Carta" than know how those words translate. We would still know what to say about an in-story TF concept named the Pyra Magna Carta. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 16:16, 29 February 2024 (EST)		:::I am not saying it was a witchcraft reference - I am saying it is a famous historical literary term. Far more people have heard the term "Magna Carta" than know how those words translate. We would still know what to say about an in-story TF concept named the Pyra Magna Carta. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 16:16, 29 February 2024 (EST)
	:::It's really not that hard to imagine somebody using the Latin for "hammer" (which isn't that uncommon a word) and then adding "Minotaurus" to it to make a name that sounds like a typical individual's name in Latin. Basic alliteration can arise independently and not be a reference to something you assume is universal knowledge. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 16:10, 29 February 2024 (EST)		::::It's really not that hard to imagine somebody using the Latin for "hammer" (which isn't that uncommon a word) and then adding "Minotaurus" to it to make a name that sounds like a typical individual's name in Latin. Basic alliteration can arise independently and not be a reference to something you assume is universal knowledge. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 16:10, 29 February 2024 (EST)
			:::::Yeah, unless any sort of official statement to the contrary pops up, the Maleficarum reference feels like a bit of a stretch. I think Occam's Razor applies here. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 16:21, 29 February 2024 (EST)

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	:It is impossible to believe that an alliterative, Latin-styled, "Malleus Msomethingsomething" name is '''not''' meant to allude to the only other well-known example of such a name construction ever. It is not a name style that someone in this day and age would invent without having heard of the real historical literary example first. If there were a TF concept called the Techronomicon, we wouldn't need to wait for an Instagram post confirming it, we could just say the name was inspired by the well-known pre-existing literary concept. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 14:49, 29 February 2024 (EST)		:It is impossible to believe that an alliterative, Latin-styled, "Malleus Msomethingsomething" name is '''not''' meant to allude to the only other well-known example of such a name construction ever. It is not a name style that someone in this day and age would invent without having heard of the real historical literary example first. If there were a TF concept called the Techronomicon, we wouldn't need to wait for an Instagram post confirming it, we could just say the name was inspired by the well-known pre-existing literary concept. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 14:49, 29 February 2024 (EST)
	::Yeah but you also can't arrive at "Techronomicon" by plugging "hammer minotaur" into English -> Latin Google Translate. I definitely think this is a coincidence - it's a Solus-Prime-themed Wrecker, there's no reason why they would be making witchcraft references for the name. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]])		::Yeah but you also can't arrive at "Techronomicon" by plugging "hammer minotaur" into English -> Latin Google Translate. I definitely think this is a coincidence - it's a Solus-Prime-themed Wrecker, there's no reason why they would be making witchcraft references for the name. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]])
			:::I am not saying it was a witchcraft reference - I am saying it is a famous historical literary term. Far more people have heard the term "Magna Carta" than know how those words translate. We would still know what to say about an in-story TF concept named the Pyra Magna Carta. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 16:16, 29 February 2024 (EST)
	:::It's really not that hard to imagine somebody using the Latin for "hammer" (which isn't that uncommon a word) and then adding "Minotaurus" to it to make a name that sounds like a typical individual's name in Latin. Basic alliteration can arise independently and not be a reference to something you assume is universal knowledge. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 16:10, 29 February 2024 (EST)		:::It's really not that hard to imagine somebody using the Latin for "hammer" (which isn't that uncommon a word) and then adding "Minotaurus" to it to make a name that sounds like a typical individual's name in Latin. Basic alliteration can arise independently and not be a reference to something you assume is universal knowledge. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 16:10, 29 February 2024 (EST)

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	:It is impossible to believe that an alliterative, Latin-styled, "Malleus Msomethingsomething" name is '''not''' meant to allude to the only other well-known example of such a name construction ever. It is not a name style that someone in this day and age would invent without having heard of the real historical literary example first. If there were a TF concept called the Techronomicon, we wouldn't need to wait for an Instagram post confirming it, we could just say the name was inspired by the well-known pre-existing literary concept. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 14:49, 29 February 2024 (EST)		:It is impossible to believe that an alliterative, Latin-styled, "Malleus Msomethingsomething" name is '''not''' meant to allude to the only other well-known example of such a name construction ever. It is not a name style that someone in this day and age would invent without having heard of the real historical literary example first. If there were a TF concept called the Techronomicon, we wouldn't need to wait for an Instagram post confirming it, we could just say the name was inspired by the well-known pre-existing literary concept. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 14:49, 29 February 2024 (EST)
	::Yeah but you also can't arrive at "Techronomicon" by plugging "hammer minotaur" into English -> Latin Google Translate. I definitely think this is a coincidence - it's a Solus-Prime-themed Wrecker, there's no reason why they would be making witchcraft references for the name. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]])		::Yeah but you also can't arrive at "Techronomicon" by plugging "hammer minotaur" into English -> Latin Google Translate. I definitely think this is a coincidence - it's a Solus-Prime-themed Wrecker, there's no reason why they would be making witchcraft references for the name. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]])
			:::It's really not that hard to imagine somebody using the Latin for "hammer" (which isn't that uncommon a word) and then adding "Minotaurus" to it to make a name that sounds like a typical individual's name in Latin. Basic alliteration can arise independently and not be a reference to something you assume is universal knowledge. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 16:10, 29 February 2024 (EST)