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	Sooo... we've got like 5 listings under this recent Official term/category and a ton under the previous Unofficial "Cybertronic wildlife." We need to pick one or another and combiner. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 17:44, 24 February 2012 (EST)		Sooo... we've got like 5 listings under this recent Official term/category and a ton under the previous Unofficial "Cybertronic wildlife." We need to pick one or another and combiner. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 17:44, 24 February 2012 (EST)
	:Why are we assuming "Cybertronic wildlife" is perfectly synonymous with "mechanimal"? The former is restricted to wildlife on Cybertron while the latter implies all robotic species. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)		:Why are we assuming "Cybertronic wildlife" is perfectly synonymous with "mechanimal"? The former is restricted to wildlife on Cybertron while the latter implies all robotic species. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)
	::Because it's used in canon to describe "mechanical animals from Cybertron." Any more limited definition you are giving it is coming from you. In canon it's been used exactly in the sense we are using the unoficial "Cybertronic wildlife" as in the discussion above there's no reason not to believe its definition isn't "Cybertronic wildlife" and every reason to believe it is.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:16, 24 February 2012 (EST)		::Because it's used in canon to describe "mechanical animals from Cybertron." Any more limited definition you are giving it is coming from you. In canon it's been used exactly in the sense we are using the unoficial "Cybertronic wildlife" as in the discussion above there's no reason not to believe its definition isn't "Cybertronic wildlife" and every reason to believe it is.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:16, 24 February 2012 (EST)
	:: That grumpiness out of my system I don't really care too much other than to say we have to pick one. The way they are now split is not good. I will say even by your definition (wich I don't think the text supports as well as the other) we should then change the name to the more official "Cybertronic Mechanimals"--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:21, 24 February 2012 (EST)		:: That grumpiness out of my system I don't really care too much other than to say we have to pick one. The way they are now split is not good. I will say even by your definition (wich I don't think the text supports as well as the other) we should then change the name to the more official "Cybertronic Mechanimals"--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:21, 24 February 2012 (EST)

			==Three definitions==
			:I was looking for places to insert the term "mechabeast", which is a BWII term for the Seacons as opposed to the Maximals' "beast" mode and I'm confused what I'm supposed to do here. On one hand, "mechanimal" is used to mean "Cybertronian wildlife", on the other "robot animals/animal robots", and from the beast mode page, an unexpected third hand gives "robot interpretation of an animal". There's overlap, but none of these mean the same thing.
			:I'm not saying to split, but would a "Conceptual history" section be appropriate to clarify that this article covers three principally distinct concepts? (And when I say, I do mean I can look into writing something.) [[User:BerylRoll\|BerylRoll]] ([[User talk:BerylRoll\|talk]]) 14:02, 24 December 2025 (EST)

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	:Why are we assuming "Cybertronic wildlife" is perfectly synonymous with "mechanimal"? The former is restricted to wildlife on Cybertron while the latter implies all robotic species. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)		:Why are we assuming "Cybertronic wildlife" is perfectly synonymous with "mechanimal"? The former is restricted to wildlife on Cybertron while the latter implies all robotic species. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)
	::Because it's used in canon to describe "mechanical animals from Cybertron." Any more limited definition you are giving it is coming from you. In canon it's been used exactly in the sense we are using the unoficial "Cybertronic wildlife" as in the discussion above there's no reason not to believe its definition isn't "Cybertronic wildlife" and every reason to believe it is.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:16, 24 February 2012 (EST)		::Because it's used in canon to describe "mechanical animals from Cybertron." Any more limited definition you are giving it is coming from you. In canon it's been used exactly in the sense we are using the unoficial "Cybertronic wildlife" as in the discussion above there's no reason not to believe its definition isn't "Cybertronic wildlife" and every reason to believe it is.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:16, 24 February 2012 (EST)
			:: That grumpiness out of my system I don't really care too much other than to say we have to pick one. The way they are now split is not good. I will say even by your definition (wich I don't think the text supports as well as the other) we should then change the name to the more official "Cybertronic Mechanimals"--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:21, 24 February 2012 (EST)

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	Sooo... we've got like 5 listings under this recent Official term/category and a ton under the previous Unofficial "Cybertronic wildlife." We need to pick one or another and combiner. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 17:44, 24 February 2012 (EST)		Sooo... we've got like 5 listings under this recent Official term/category and a ton under the previous Unofficial "Cybertronic wildlife." We need to pick one or another and combiner. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 17:44, 24 February 2012 (EST)
	:Why are we assuming "Cybertronic wildlife" is perfectly synonymous with "mechanimal"? The former is restricted to wildlife on Cybertron while the latter implies all robotic species. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)		:Why are we assuming "Cybertronic wildlife" is perfectly synonymous with "mechanimal"? The former is restricted to wildlife on Cybertron while the latter implies all robotic species. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)
			::Because it's used in canon to describe "mechanical animals from Cybertron." Any more limited definition you are giving it is coming from you. In canon it's been used exactly in the sense we are using the unoficial "Cybertronic wildlife" as in the discussion above there's no reason not to believe its definition isn't "Cybertronic wildlife" and every reason to believe it is.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:16, 24 February 2012 (EST)

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	Sooo... we've got like 5 listings under this recent Official term/category and a ton under the previous Unofficial "Cybertronic wildlife." We need to pick one or another and combiner. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 17:44, 24 February 2012 (EST)		Sooo... we've got like 5 listings under this recent Official term/category and a ton under the previous Unofficial "Cybertronic wildlife." We need to pick one or another and combiner. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 17:44, 24 February 2012 (EST)
			:Why are we assuming "Cybertronic wildlife" is perfectly synonymous with "mechanimal"? The former is restricted to wildlife on Cybertron while the latter implies all robotic species. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)

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	:Because thats how we do things. We've done similar in lots of situations. We use official terms for things if they exist. The only official term we have for cybertronian animal life is mechanimals. So baring any other such terms, it is what the wiki uses. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 16:14, 21 October 2011 (EDT)		:Because thats how we do things. We've done similar in lots of situations. We use official terms for things if they exist. The only official term we have for cybertronian animal life is mechanimals. So baring any other such terms, it is what the wiki uses. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 16:14, 21 October 2011 (EDT)
	::It seems like a reasonable inference to me. --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 18:05, 21 October 2011 (EDT)		::It seems like a reasonable inference to me. --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 18:05, 21 October 2011 (EDT)

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			Sooo... we've got like 5 listings under this recent Official term/category and a ton under the previous Unofficial "Cybertronic wildlife." We need to pick one or another and combiner. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 17:44, 24 February 2012 (EST)

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	:Because thats how we do things. We've done similar in lots of situations. We use official terms for things if they exist. The only official term we have for cybertronian animal life is mechanimals. So baring any other such terms, it is what the wiki uses. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 16:14, 21 October 2011 (EDT)		:Because thats how we do things. We've done similar in lots of situations. We use official terms for things if they exist. The only official term we have for cybertronian animal life is mechanimals. So baring any other such terms, it is what the wiki uses. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 16:14, 21 October 2011 (EDT)
			::It seems like a reasonable inference to me. --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 18:05, 21 October 2011 (EDT)

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	Wait, how is its use in one Wings Of Honor story suddenly making it applicable to every Cybertronian animal in every continuity? --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 15:36, 21 October 2011 (EDT)		Wait, how is its use in one Wings Of Honor story suddenly making it applicable to every Cybertronian animal in every continuity? --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 15:36, 21 October 2011 (EDT)

			:Because thats how we do things. We've done similar in lots of situations. We use official terms for things if they exist. The only official term we have for cybertronian animal life is mechanimals. So baring any other such terms, it is what the wiki uses. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 16:14, 21 October 2011 (EDT)

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	:: I'd say that "mechanimal" seems to be a lot more vague than "Cybertronic wildlife," though. I mean, what constitutes a mechanimal? Is it just nonsentient wildlife like the Driller, Scraplets, etc., or do Transformers with robotic alien alternate modes (eg. the Terrorcons, Monsterbots) enter into it to? Do reengineered animals fall into their own seperate category? [[User:Tom Servo the Great\|Tom Servo the Great]] 14:18, 21 October 2011 (EDT)		:: I'd say that "mechanimal" seems to be a lot more vague than "Cybertronic wildlife," though. I mean, what constitutes a mechanimal? Is it just nonsentient wildlife like the Driller, Scraplets, etc., or do Transformers with robotic alien alternate modes (eg. the Terrorcons, Monsterbots) enter into it to? Do reengineered animals fall into their own seperate category? [[User:Tom Servo the Great\|Tom Servo the Great]] 14:18, 21 October 2011 (EDT)
	:::I think you are over thinking it. Mechanimal simply = animal. It's a simple substitution. Like using Turbofox for fox is. If there are specific terms for those sub catagories we don't know any, so until a writer makes one up and uses it in fiction there's no reason to catagorize them seperately on the wiki. Mechanimal is fine as a generic Cybertronian term for animal until a specific official term for any sub type is made up.		:::I think you are over thinking it. Mechanimal simply = animal. It's a simple substitution. Like using Turbofox for fox is. If there are specific terms for those sub catagories we don't know any, so until a writer makes one up and uses it in fiction there's no reason to catagorize them seperately on the wiki. Mechanimal is fine as a generic Cybertronian term for animal until a specific official term for any sub type is made up.


			Wait, how is its use in one Wings Of Honor story suddenly making it applicable to every Cybertronian animal in every continuity? --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 15:36, 21 October 2011 (EDT)

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	:: I'd say that "mechanimal" seems to be a lot more vague than "Cybertronic wildlife," though. I mean, what constitutes a mechanimal? Is it just nonsentient wildlife like the Driller, Scraplets, etc., or do Transformers with robotic alien alternate modes (eg. the Terrorcons, Monsterbots) enter into it to? Do reengineered animals fall into their own seperate category? [[User:Tom Servo the Great\|Tom Servo the Great]] 14:18, 21 October 2011 (EDT)		:: I'd say that "mechanimal" seems to be a lot more vague than "Cybertronic wildlife," though. I mean, what constitutes a mechanimal? Is it just nonsentient wildlife like the Driller, Scraplets, etc., or do Transformers with robotic alien alternate modes (eg. the Terrorcons, Monsterbots) enter into it to? Do reengineered animals fall into their own seperate category? [[User:Tom Servo the Great\|Tom Servo the Great]] 14:18, 21 October 2011 (EDT)
			:::I think you are over thinking it. Mechanimal simply = animal. It's a simple substitution. Like using Turbofox for fox is. If there are specific terms for those sub catagories we don't know any, so until a writer makes one up and uses it in fiction there's no reason to catagorize them seperately on the wiki. Mechanimal is fine as a generic Cybertronian term for animal until a specific official term for any sub type is made up.

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	:::::I was basing my point on the paragraph alone, I admit context clarifies the issue. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 13:05, 21 October 2011 (EDT)		:::::I was basing my point on the paragraph alone, I admit context clarifies the issue. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 13:05, 21 October 2011 (EDT)

			:: I'd say that "mechanimal" seems to be a lot more vague than "Cybertronic wildlife," though. I mean, what constitutes a mechanimal? Is it just nonsentient wildlife like the Driller, Scraplets, etc., or do Transformers with robotic alien alternate modes (eg. the Terrorcons, Monsterbots) enter into it to? Do reengineered animals fall into their own seperate category? [[User:Tom Servo the Great\|Tom Servo the Great]] 14:18, 21 October 2011 (EDT)

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	Sooo... we've got like 5 listings under this recent Official term/category and a ton under the previous Unofficial "Cybertronic wildlife." We need to pick one or another and combiner. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 17:44, 24 February 2012 (EST)		Sooo... we've got like 5 listings under this recent Official term/category and a ton under the previous Unofficial "Cybertronic wildlife." We need to pick one or another and combiner. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 17:44, 24 February 2012 (EST)
	:Why are we assuming "Cybertronic wildlife" is perfectly synonymous with "mechanimal"? The former is restricted to wildlife on Cybertron while the latter implies all robotic species. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)		:Why are we assuming "Cybertronic wildlife" is perfectly synonymous with "mechanimal"? The former is restricted to wildlife on Cybertron while the latter implies all robotic species. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)
	::Because it's used in canon to describe "mechanical animals from Cybertron." Any more limited definition you are giving it is coming from you. In canon it's been used exactly in the sense we are using the unoficial "Cybertronic wildlife" as in the discussion above there's no reason not to believe its definition isn't "Cybertronic wildlife" and every reason to believe it is.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:16, 24 February 2012 (EST)		::Because it's used in canon to describe "mechanical animals from Cybertron." Any more limited definition you are giving it is coming from you. In canon it's been used exactly in the sense we are using the unoficial "Cybertronic wildlife" as in the discussion above there's no reason not to believe its definition isn't "Cybertronic wildlife" and every reason to believe it is.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:16, 24 February 2012 (EST)
	:: That grumpiness out of my system I don't really care too much other than to say we have to pick one. The way they are now split is not good. I will say even by your definition (wich I don't think the text supports as well as the other) we should then change the name to the more official "Cybertronic Mechanimals"--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:21, 24 February 2012 (EST)		:: That grumpiness out of my system I don't really care too much other than to say we have to pick one. The way they are now split is not good. I will say even by your definition (wich I don't think the text supports as well as the other) we should then change the name to the more official "Cybertronic Mechanimals"--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:21, 24 February 2012 (EST)

			==Three definitions==
			:I was looking for places to insert the term "mechabeast", which is a BWII term for the Seacons as opposed to the Maximals' "beast" mode and I'm confused what I'm supposed to do here. On one hand, "mechanimal" is used to mean "Cybertronian wildlife", on the other "robot animals/animal robots", and from the beast mode page, an unexpected third hand gives "robot interpretation of an animal". There's overlap, but none of these mean the same thing.
			:I'm not saying to split, but would a "Conceptual history" section be appropriate to clarify that this article covers three principally distinct concepts? (And when I say, I do mean I can look into writing something.) [[User:BerylRoll\|BerylRoll]] ([[User talk:BerylRoll\|talk]]) 14:02, 24 December 2025 (EST)

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	:Why are we assuming "Cybertronic wildlife" is perfectly synonymous with "mechanimal"? The former is restricted to wildlife on Cybertron while the latter implies all robotic species. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)		:Why are we assuming "Cybertronic wildlife" is perfectly synonymous with "mechanimal"? The former is restricted to wildlife on Cybertron while the latter implies all robotic species. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)
	::Because it's used in canon to describe "mechanical animals from Cybertron." Any more limited definition you are giving it is coming from you. In canon it's been used exactly in the sense we are using the unoficial "Cybertronic wildlife" as in the discussion above there's no reason not to believe its definition isn't "Cybertronic wildlife" and every reason to believe it is.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:16, 24 February 2012 (EST)		::Because it's used in canon to describe "mechanical animals from Cybertron." Any more limited definition you are giving it is coming from you. In canon it's been used exactly in the sense we are using the unoficial "Cybertronic wildlife" as in the discussion above there's no reason not to believe its definition isn't "Cybertronic wildlife" and every reason to believe it is.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:16, 24 February 2012 (EST)
			:: That grumpiness out of my system I don't really care too much other than to say we have to pick one. The way they are now split is not good. I will say even by your definition (wich I don't think the text supports as well as the other) we should then change the name to the more official "Cybertronic Mechanimals"--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:21, 24 February 2012 (EST)

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	Sooo... we've got like 5 listings under this recent Official term/category and a ton under the previous Unofficial "Cybertronic wildlife." We need to pick one or another and combiner. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 17:44, 24 February 2012 (EST)		Sooo... we've got like 5 listings under this recent Official term/category and a ton under the previous Unofficial "Cybertronic wildlife." We need to pick one or another and combiner. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 17:44, 24 February 2012 (EST)
	:Why are we assuming "Cybertronic wildlife" is perfectly synonymous with "mechanimal"? The former is restricted to wildlife on Cybertron while the latter implies all robotic species. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)		:Why are we assuming "Cybertronic wildlife" is perfectly synonymous with "mechanimal"? The former is restricted to wildlife on Cybertron while the latter implies all robotic species. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)
			::Because it's used in canon to describe "mechanical animals from Cybertron." Any more limited definition you are giving it is coming from you. In canon it's been used exactly in the sense we are using the unoficial "Cybertronic wildlife" as in the discussion above there's no reason not to believe its definition isn't "Cybertronic wildlife" and every reason to believe it is.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 18:16, 24 February 2012 (EST)