Talk:Megazarak (Universe) - Revision history

S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 at 01:48, 12 August 2015

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	== Continuity family of origin ==		== Continuity family of origin ==

	Has it been determined without a doubt what continuity family Megazarak comes from? His subordinates [[Dreadwind (RID)\|Dreadwind]] and [[Smokejumper]] are mentioned in [[The Official Transformers Collectors' Club Magazine issue 1\|the sole 3H Collectors' Club Magazine issue]] to be from the 2001 RID continuity family while [[Caliburn]] is mentioned in the 2015 ''Beast Wars: Uprising'' story "[[Broken Windshields]]". I think it was mentioned somewhere that the RID origin for Dreadwind and Smokejumper was an error? So then do we classify Megazarak as a G1 character? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 01:37, 7 April 2015 (EDT)		Has it been determined without a doubt what continuity family Megazarak comes from? His subordinates [[Dreadwind (RID)\|Dreadwind]] and [[Smokejumper]] are mentioned in [[The Official Transformers Collectors' Club Magazine issue 1\|the sole 3H Collectors' Club Magazine issue]] to be from the 2001 RID continuity family while [[Caliburn (Universe)\|Caliburn]] is mentioned in the 2015 ''Beast Wars: Uprising'' story "[[Broken Windshields]]". I think it was mentioned somewhere that the RID origin for Dreadwind and Smokejumper was an error? So then do we classify Megazarak as a G1 character? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 01:37, 7 April 2015 (EDT)
	:If it had been determined, it'd be on the friggin' page already dude. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky\|talk]]) 18:37, 29 April 2015 (EDT)		:If it had been determined, it'd be on the friggin' page already dude. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky\|talk]]) 18:37, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

	== Split ==		== Split ==

	Now with more information from [[Ask Vector Prime]], it seems logical to me that we need a [[Megazarak (RID)]] for the Matrix-hunting Megazarak and a [[Megazarak (Armada)]] for the one responsible for [[Nemesis Prime ~~(Universe)]]~~'s creation. Which by the way, Ask Vector Prime has also mentioned a warlord Megazarak who Vector Prime fought in [[Aurex 404.11 Kappa]]. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 18:01, 30 July 2015 (EDT)		Now with more information from [[Ask Vector Prime]], it seems logical to me that we need a "Megazarak (RID)" for the Matrix-hunting Megazarak and a "Megazarak (Armada)" for the one responsible for ''Universe'' Nemesis Prime's creation. Which by the way, Ask Vector Prime has also mentioned a warlord Megazarak who Vector Prime fought in [[Aurex 404.11 Kappa]]. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 18:01, 30 July 2015 (EDT)
	** It not that simple, since megazarak exist in the Viron cluster. so i suggest splitting the aurex cluster but keep the two that belongs to the viron cluster in that page.--[[User:Projectus\|Projectus]] ([[User talk:Projectus\|talk]]) 18:29, 30 July 2015 (EDT)		** It not that simple, since megazarak exist in the Viron cluster. so i suggest splitting the aurex cluster but keep the two that belongs to the viron cluster in that page.--[[User:Projectus\|Projectus]] ([[User talk:Projectus\|talk]]) 18:29, 30 July 2015 (EDT)

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S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47: S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 moved page Talk:Megazarak (Universe) to Talk:Megazarak (RID): RID 2001 and Unicron Trilogy versions both exist.

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S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 moved page Talk:Megazarak (Universe) to Talk:Megazarak (RID): RID 2001 and Unicron Trilogy versions both exist.

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Projectus at 22:29, 30 July 2015

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	Now with more information from [[Ask Vector Prime]], it seems logical to me that we need a [[Megazarak (RID)]] for the Matrix-hunting Megazarak and a [[Megazarak (Armada)]] for the one responsible for [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)]]'s creation. Which by the way, Ask Vector Prime has also mentioned a warlord Megazarak who Vector Prime fought in [[Aurex 404.11 Kappa]]. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 18:01, 30 July 2015 (EDT)		Now with more information from [[Ask Vector Prime]], it seems logical to me that we need a [[Megazarak (RID)]] for the Matrix-hunting Megazarak and a [[Megazarak (Armada)]] for the one responsible for [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)]]'s creation. Which by the way, Ask Vector Prime has also mentioned a warlord Megazarak who Vector Prime fought in [[Aurex 404.11 Kappa]]. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 18:01, 30 July 2015 (EDT)
	** It not that simple, since megazarak exist in the Viron cluster. so i suggest splitting the aurex cluster but keep the two that belongs to the viron cluster in that page.		** It not that simple, since megazarak exist in the Viron cluster. so i suggest splitting the aurex cluster but keep the two that belongs to the viron cluster in that page.--[[User:Projectus\|Projectus]] ([[User talk:Projectus\|talk]]) 18:29, 30 July 2015 (EDT)

Projectus at 22:29, 30 July 2015

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	Now with more information from [[Ask Vector Prime]], it seems logical to me that we need a [[Megazarak (RID)]] for the Matrix-hunting Megazarak and a [[Megazarak (Armada)]] for the one responsible for [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)]]'s creation. Which by the way, Ask Vector Prime has also mentioned a warlord Megazarak who Vector Prime fought in [[Aurex 404.11 Kappa]]. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 18:01, 30 July 2015 (EDT)		Now with more information from [[Ask Vector Prime]], it seems logical to me that we need a [[Megazarak (RID)]] for the Matrix-hunting Megazarak and a [[Megazarak (Armada)]] for the one responsible for [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)]]'s creation. Which by the way, Ask Vector Prime has also mentioned a warlord Megazarak who Vector Prime fought in [[Aurex 404.11 Kappa]]. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 18:01, 30 July 2015 (EDT)
			** It not that simple, since megazarak exist in the Viron cluster. so i suggest splitting the aurex cluster but keep the two that belongs to the viron cluster in that page.

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	Has it been determined without a doubt what continuity family Megazarak comes from? His subordinates [[Dreadwind (RID)\|Dreadwind]] and [[Smokejumper]] are mentioned in [[The Official Transformers Collectors' Club Magazine issue 1\|the sole 3H Collectors' Club Magazine issue]] to be from the 2001 RID continuity family while [[Caliburn]] is mentioned in the 2015 ''Beast Wars: Uprising'' story "[[Broken Windshields]]". I think it was mentioned somewhere that the RID origin for Dreadwind and Smokejumper was an error? So then do we classify Megazarak as a G1 character? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 01:37, 7 April 2015 (EDT)		Has it been determined without a doubt what continuity family Megazarak comes from? His subordinates [[Dreadwind (RID)\|Dreadwind]] and [[Smokejumper]] are mentioned in [[The Official Transformers Collectors' Club Magazine issue 1\|the sole 3H Collectors' Club Magazine issue]] to be from the 2001 RID continuity family while [[Caliburn]] is mentioned in the 2015 ''Beast Wars: Uprising'' story "[[Broken Windshields]]". I think it was mentioned somewhere that the RID origin for Dreadwind and Smokejumper was an error? So then do we classify Megazarak as a G1 character? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 01:37, 7 April 2015 (EDT)
	:If it had been determined, it'd be on the friggin' page already dude. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky\|talk]]) 18:37, 29 April 2015 (EDT)		:If it had been determined, it'd be on the friggin' page already dude. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky\|talk]]) 18:37, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

			== Split ==

			Now with more information from [[Ask Vector Prime]], it seems logical to me that we need a [[Megazarak (RID)]] for the Matrix-hunting Megazarak and a [[Megazarak (Armada)]] for the one responsible for [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)]]'s creation. Which by the way, Ask Vector Prime has also mentioned a warlord Megazarak who Vector Prime fought in [[Aurex 404.11 Kappa]]. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 18:01, 30 July 2015 (EDT)

ItsWalky: /* Continuity family of origin */

2015-04-29T22:37:17Z

Continuity family of origin

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	Has it been determined without a doubt what continuity family Megazarak comes from? His subordinates [[Dreadwind (RID)\|Dreadwind]] and [[Smokejumper]] are mentioned in [[The Official Transformers Collectors' Club Magazine issue 1\|the sole 3H Collectors' Club Magazine issue]] to be from the 2001 RID continuity family while [[Caliburn]] is mentioned in the 2015 ''Beast Wars: Uprising'' story "[[Broken Windshields]]". I think it was mentioned somewhere that the RID origin for Dreadwind and Smokejumper was an error? So then do we classify Megazarak as a G1 character? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 01:37, 7 April 2015 (EDT)		Has it been determined without a doubt what continuity family Megazarak comes from? His subordinates [[Dreadwind (RID)\|Dreadwind]] and [[Smokejumper]] are mentioned in [[The Official Transformers Collectors' Club Magazine issue 1\|the sole 3H Collectors' Club Magazine issue]] to be from the 2001 RID continuity family while [[Caliburn]] is mentioned in the 2015 ''Beast Wars: Uprising'' story "[[Broken Windshields]]". I think it was mentioned somewhere that the RID origin for Dreadwind and Smokejumper was an error? So then do we classify Megazarak as a G1 character? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 01:37, 7 April 2015 (EDT)
			:If it had been determined, it'd be on the friggin' page already dude. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky\|talk]]) 18:37, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

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	::::::Yes, the Dead Matrix was made from the Matrix of Leadership carried by the Prime that Megazarak killed. The one Nemesis Prime's bio said Megazarak left behind to rot inside the Prime's body, while "Shell Game" contrarily states that that Matrix was not inside that Prime's body when Megazarak killed him. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 10:43, 30 October 2013 (EDT)		::::::Yes, the Dead Matrix was made from the Matrix of Leadership carried by the Prime that Megazarak killed. The one Nemesis Prime's bio said Megazarak left behind to rot inside the Prime's body, while "Shell Game" contrarily states that that Matrix was not inside that Prime's body when Megazarak killed him. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 10:43, 30 October 2013 (EDT)
	:::::::Now, stop me if you think this is crazy, but what if this was the case: Megazarak is a dimension hopper, killing the first Prime, and not finding his Matrix (possibly finally killing Defensor) and the killed the second Prime leaving him and his Matrix to rot, which Unicron uses to create his Dead Matrix. [[User:Amalgamous Prime\|Amalgamous Prime]] ([[User talk:Amalgamous Prime\|talk]]) 00:32, 8 July 2014 (EDT)		:::::::Now, stop me if you think this is crazy, but what if this was the case: Megazarak is a dimension hopper, killing the first Prime, and not finding his Matrix (possibly finally killing Defensor) and the killed the second Prime leaving him and his Matrix to rot, which Unicron uses to create his Dead Matrix. [[User:Amalgamous Prime\|Amalgamous Prime]] ([[User talk:Amalgamous Prime\|talk]]) 00:32, 8 July 2014 (EDT)

			== Continuity family of origin ==

			Has it been determined without a doubt what continuity family Megazarak comes from? His subordinates [[Dreadwind (RID)\|Dreadwind]] and [[Smokejumper]] are mentioned in [[The Official Transformers Collectors' Club Magazine issue 1\|the sole 3H Collectors' Club Magazine issue]] to be from the 2001 RID continuity family while [[Caliburn]] is mentioned in the 2015 ''Beast Wars: Uprising'' story "[[Broken Windshields]]". I think it was mentioned somewhere that the RID origin for Dreadwind and Smokejumper was an error? So then do we classify Megazarak as a G1 character? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 01:37, 7 April 2015 (EDT)

Amalgamous Prime: /* Just a question... */

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Just a question...

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	:::::I like Escargon's explanation. Megazarak killed Prime and then tore him open to find the matrix... Only to discover that it wasn't there. It fits all the available sources as you described them... Unless Nemesis Prime had to be found with the Matrix on him for that to work? Was his Dead Matrix explicitly a corrupted normal matrix, or could it have been created entirely by Unicron?--[[User:BraveMax\|BraveMax]] 01:25, 30 October 2013 (EDT)		:::::I like Escargon's explanation. Megazarak killed Prime and then tore him open to find the matrix... Only to discover that it wasn't there. It fits all the available sources as you described them... Unless Nemesis Prime had to be found with the Matrix on him for that to work? Was his Dead Matrix explicitly a corrupted normal matrix, or could it have been created entirely by Unicron?--[[User:BraveMax\|BraveMax]] 01:25, 30 October 2013 (EDT)
	::::::Yes, the Dead Matrix was made from the Matrix of Leadership carried by the Prime that Megazarak killed. The one Nemesis Prime's bio said Megazarak left behind to rot inside the Prime's body, while "Shell Game" contrarily states that that Matrix was not inside that Prime's body when Megazarak killed him. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 10:43, 30 October 2013 (EDT)		::::::Yes, the Dead Matrix was made from the Matrix of Leadership carried by the Prime that Megazarak killed. The one Nemesis Prime's bio said Megazarak left behind to rot inside the Prime's body, while "Shell Game" contrarily states that that Matrix was not inside that Prime's body when Megazarak killed him. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 10:43, 30 October 2013 (EDT)
			:::::::Now, stop me if you think this is crazy, but what if this was the case: Megazarak is a dimension hopper, killing the first Prime, and not finding his Matrix (possibly finally killing Defensor) and the killed the second Prime leaving him and his Matrix to rot, which Unicron uses to create his Dead Matrix. [[User:Amalgamous Prime\|Amalgamous Prime]] ([[User talk:Amalgamous Prime\|talk]]) 00:32, 8 July 2014 (EDT)

Sabrblade: /* Just a question... */

2013-10-30T14:43:42Z

Just a question...

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	::::I doubt that as well, and instead think that this was just a case of miscommunication between the two parties. Or a retcon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 20:57, 29 October 2013 (EDT)		::::I doubt that as well, and instead think that this was just a case of miscommunication between the two parties. Or a retcon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 20:57, 29 October 2013 (EDT)
	:::::I like Escargon's explanation. Megazarak killed Prime and then tore him open to find the matrix... Only to discover that it wasn't there. It fits all the available sources as you described them... Unless Nemesis Prime had to be found with the Matrix on him for that to work? Was his Dead Matrix explicitly a corrupted normal matrix, or could it have been created entirely by Unicron?--[[User:BraveMax\|BraveMax]] 01:25, 30 October 2013 (EDT)		:::::I like Escargon's explanation. Megazarak killed Prime and then tore him open to find the matrix... Only to discover that it wasn't there. It fits all the available sources as you described them... Unless Nemesis Prime had to be found with the Matrix on him for that to work? Was his Dead Matrix explicitly a corrupted normal matrix, or could it have been created entirely by Unicron?--[[User:BraveMax\|BraveMax]] 01:25, 30 October 2013 (EDT)
			::::::Yes, the Dead Matrix was made from the Matrix of Leadership carried by the Prime that Megazarak killed. The one Nemesis Prime's bio said Megazarak left behind to rot inside the Prime's body, while "Shell Game" contrarily states that that Matrix was not inside that Prime's body when Megazarak killed him. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 10:43, 30 October 2013 (EDT)

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	:::::I like Escargon's explanation. Megazarak killed Prime and then tore him open to find the matrix... Only to discover that it wasn't there. It fits all the available sources as you described them... Unless Nemesis Prime had to be found with the Matrix on him for that to work? Was his Dead Matrix explicitly a corrupted normal matrix, or could it have been created entirely by Unicron?--[[User:BraveMax\|BraveMax]] 01:25, 30 October 2013 (EDT)		:::::I like Escargon's explanation. Megazarak killed Prime and then tore him open to find the matrix... Only to discover that it wasn't there. It fits all the available sources as you described them... Unless Nemesis Prime had to be found with the Matrix on him for that to work? Was his Dead Matrix explicitly a corrupted normal matrix, or could it have been created entirely by Unicron?--[[User:BraveMax\|BraveMax]] 01:25, 30 October 2013 (EDT)
	::::::Yes, the Dead Matrix was made from the Matrix of Leadership carried by the Prime that Megazarak killed. The one Nemesis Prime's bio said Megazarak left behind to rot inside the Prime's body, while "Shell Game" contrarily states that that Matrix was not inside that Prime's body when Megazarak killed him. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 10:43, 30 October 2013 (EDT)		::::::Yes, the Dead Matrix was made from the Matrix of Leadership carried by the Prime that Megazarak killed. The one Nemesis Prime's bio said Megazarak left behind to rot inside the Prime's body, while "Shell Game" contrarily states that that Matrix was not inside that Prime's body when Megazarak killed him. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 10:43, 30 October 2013 (EDT)
			:::::::Now, stop me if you think this is crazy, but what if this was the case: Megazarak is a dimension hopper, killing the first Prime, and not finding his Matrix (possibly finally killing Defensor) and the killed the second Prime leaving him and his Matrix to rot, which Unicron uses to create his Dead Matrix. [[User:Amalgamous Prime\|Amalgamous Prime]] ([[User talk:Amalgamous Prime\|talk]]) 00:32, 8 July 2014 (EDT)

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	::::I doubt that as well, and instead think that this was just a case of miscommunication between the two parties. Or a retcon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 20:57, 29 October 2013 (EDT)		::::I doubt that as well, and instead think that this was just a case of miscommunication between the two parties. Or a retcon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 20:57, 29 October 2013 (EDT)
	:::::I like Escargon's explanation. Megazarak killed Prime and then tore him open to find the matrix... Only to discover that it wasn't there. It fits all the available sources as you described them... Unless Nemesis Prime had to be found with the Matrix on him for that to work? Was his Dead Matrix explicitly a corrupted normal matrix, or could it have been created entirely by Unicron?--[[User:BraveMax\|BraveMax]] 01:25, 30 October 2013 (EDT)		:::::I like Escargon's explanation. Megazarak killed Prime and then tore him open to find the matrix... Only to discover that it wasn't there. It fits all the available sources as you described them... Unless Nemesis Prime had to be found with the Matrix on him for that to work? Was his Dead Matrix explicitly a corrupted normal matrix, or could it have been created entirely by Unicron?--[[User:BraveMax\|BraveMax]] 01:25, 30 October 2013 (EDT)
			::::::Yes, the Dead Matrix was made from the Matrix of Leadership carried by the Prime that Megazarak killed. The one Nemesis Prime's bio said Megazarak left behind to rot inside the Prime's body, while "Shell Game" contrarily states that that Matrix was not inside that Prime's body when Megazarak killed him. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 10:43, 30 October 2013 (EDT)