Talk:Merchandise - Revision history

Geewunling at 18:33, 7 October 2009

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	I specifically created this section to determine once and for all what's Merchandise and what is toys. There already was previously a discussion about that here: ~~http~~:/~~/transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys~~#Merchandise but there wasn't any clear definition that come out of it. I suggest we first discuss in discussion about what make the difference between toys and merchandises, and only when we come to a general consensus, we will put it in the main article.--[[User:GUIGUI\|GUIGUI]] 19:36, 12 December 2007 (UTC)		I specifically created this section to determine once and for all what's Merchandise and what is toys. There already was previously a discussion about that here: [[Talk:Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Merchandise]], but there wasn't any clear definition that come out of it. I suggest we first discuss in discussion about what make the difference between toys and merchandises, and only when we come to a general consensus, we will put it in the main article.--[[User:GUIGUI\|GUIGUI]] 19:36, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

	== Let's start with... ==		== Let's start with... ==

	One of the actual classification I don't understand is, why [[~~Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys~~#Transformers_Music_Label\|Optimus Prime Music Label]] is considered as a toy, but [[~~Soundwave_%28G1%29~~#Merchandise\|Soundwave Music Label]] is considered as a merchandise.		One of the actual classification I don't understand is, why [[Optimus_Prime (G1)/toys#Transformers_Music_Label\|Optimus Prime Music Label]] is considered as a toy, but [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Merchandise\|Soundwave Music Label]] is considered as a merchandise.
	:I think they should both count as toys. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 20:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)		:I think they should both count as toys. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 20:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
	::Yeah, whomever wrote that entry put it in the wrong section. I consider toys to be the ones that Transform, but I let Titanium figurines and Attacktix in the toy section since they're Hasbro products. I'll go move Soundwave's thing. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 21:00, 12 December 2007 (UTC)		::Yeah, whomever wrote that entry put it in the wrong section. I consider toys to be the ones that Transform, but I let Titanium figurines and Attacktix in the toy section since they're Hasbro products. I'll go move Soundwave's thing. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 21:00, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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	:There don't seem to be hard-and-fast rules, which has led this wiki to be self-contradictory. [[Titanium]], [[MyClone]], and [[Robot Heroes]] have each been referred to as both toys and merchandise in various articles, and it would be good to make all that consistent throughout.		:There don't seem to be hard-and-fast rules, which has led this wiki to be self-contradictory. ''Titanium'', ''MyClone'', and ''Robot Heroes'' have each been referred to as both toys and merchandise in various articles, and it would be good to make all that consistent throughout.

	It's harder to draw a firm line than I would have thought. How can we consistently separate ActionMasters, Unleasheds, HOCs, and Robot Heroes? They've all gotten the mainstream toy aisle treatment. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 20:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)		It's harder to draw a firm line than I would have thought. How can we consistently separate ActionMasters, Unleasheds, HOCs, and Robot Heroes? They've all gotten the mainstream toy aisle treatment. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 20:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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	=="Merchandise" section: under "Toys" or not?==		=="Merchandise" section: under "Toys" or not?==
	Running [http://tinyurl.com/2nntrv a search on the word "merchandise,"] it looks like a pretty even split between people setting "Merchandise" apart as its own primary header, versus putting it under "Toys." If we're going to draw a distinction, I say NO HALF MEASURES. Putting it under "Toys" makes me wonder why we bother separating one from the other at all, given how fuzzy and contentious the difference can be. Thoughts? - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 22:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		Running [http://tinyurl.com/2nntrv a search on the word "merchandise,"] it looks like a pretty even split between people setting "Merchandise" apart as its own primary header, versus putting it under "Toys." If we're going to draw a distinction, I say NO HALF MEASURES. Putting it under "Toys" makes me wonder why we bother separating one from the other at all, given how fuzzy and contentious the difference can be. Thoughts? - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 22:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Jackpot: /* "Merchandise" section: under "Toys" or not? */ Changed URL for longer list of search results.

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	=="Merchandise" section: under "Toys" or not?==		=="Merchandise" section: under "Toys" or not?==
	Running [http://~~transformers.wikia~~.com/~~wiki/Special:Search?search=Merchandise&fulltext=Search~~ a search on the word "merchandise,"] it looks like a pretty even split between people setting "Merchandise" apart as its own primary header, versus putting it under "Toys." If we're going to draw a distinction, I say NO HALF MEASURES. Putting it under "Toys" makes me wonder why we bother separating one from the other at all, given how fuzzy and contentious the difference can be. Thoughts? - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 22:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		Running [http://tinyurl.com/2nntrv a search on the word "merchandise,"] it looks like a pretty even split between people setting "Merchandise" apart as its own primary header, versus putting it under "Toys." If we're going to draw a distinction, I say NO HALF MEASURES. Putting it under "Toys" makes me wonder why we bother separating one from the other at all, given how fuzzy and contentious the difference can be. Thoughts? - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 22:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Jackpot: /* "Merchandise" section: under "Toys" or not? */

2008-02-23T22:44:49Z

"Merchandise" section: under "Toys" or not?

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	:There don't seem to be hard-and-fast rules, which has led this wiki to be self-contradictory. [[Titanium]], [[MyClone]], and [[Robot Heroes]] have each been referred to as both toys and merchandise in various articles, and it would be good to make all that consistent throughout.		:There don't seem to be hard-and-fast rules, which has led this wiki to be self-contradictory. [[Titanium]], [[MyClone]], and [[Robot Heroes]] have each been referred to as both toys and merchandise in various articles, and it would be good to make all that consistent throughout.

	It's harder to draw a firm line than I would have thought. How can we consistently separate ActionMasters, Unleasheds, HOCs, and Robot Heroes? They've all gotten the mainstream toy aisle treatment. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 20:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		It's harder to draw a firm line than I would have thought. How can we consistently separate ActionMasters, Unleasheds, HOCs, and Robot Heroes? They've all gotten the mainstream toy aisle treatment. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 20:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

			=="Merchandise" section: under "Toys" or not?==
			Running [http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=Merchandise&fulltext=Search a search on the word "merchandise,"] it looks like a pretty even split between people setting "Merchandise" apart as its own primary header, versus putting it under "Toys." If we're going to draw a distinction, I say NO HALF MEASURES. Putting it under "Toys" makes me wonder why we bother separating one from the other at all, given how fuzzy and contentious the difference can be. Thoughts? - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 22:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

FFN: /* Let's start with... */

2007-12-12T21:00:24Z

Let's start with...

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	One of the actual classification I don't understand is, why [[Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Transformers_Music_Label\|Optimus Prime Music Label]] is considered as a toy, but [[Soundwave_%28G1%29#Merchandise\|Soundwave Music Label]] is considered as a merchandise.		One of the actual classification I don't understand is, why [[Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Transformers_Music_Label\|Optimus Prime Music Label]] is considered as a toy, but [[Soundwave_%28G1%29#Merchandise\|Soundwave Music Label]] is considered as a merchandise.
	:I think they should both count as toys. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 20:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)		:I think they should both count as toys. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 20:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
			::Yeah, whomever wrote that entry put it in the wrong section. I consider toys to be the ones that Transform, but I let Titanium figurines and Attacktix in the toy section since they're Hasbro products. I'll go move Soundwave's thing. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 21:00, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

	== Revoltech's case ==		== Revoltech's case ==

Thylacine 2000 at 20:53, 12 December 2007

2007-12-12T20:53:47Z

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	One of the actual classification I don't understand is, why [[Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Transformers_Music_Label\|Optimus Prime Music Label]] is considered as a toy, but [[Soundwave_%28G1%29#Merchandise\|Soundwave Music Label]] is considered as a merchandise.		One of the actual classification I don't understand is, why [[Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Transformers_Music_Label\|Optimus Prime Music Label]] is considered as a toy, but [[Soundwave_%28G1%29#Merchandise\|Soundwave Music Label]] is considered as a merchandise.
			:I think they should both count as toys. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 20:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

	== Revoltech's case ==		== Revoltech's case ==

	It seem generally admitted on this wiki that [[Revoltech\|revoltechs]] are considered as toys despite the fact they aren't edited by Takaratomy nor by Hasbro, and doesn't even transform. Discuss.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		It seem generally admitted on this wiki that [[Revoltech\|revoltechs]] are considered as toys despite the fact they aren't edited by Takaratomy nor by Hasbro, and doesn't even transform. Discuss.


			:There don't seem to be hard-and-fast rules, which has led this wiki to be self-contradictory. [[Titanium]], [[MyClone]], and [[Robot Heroes]] have each been referred to as both toys and merchandise in various articles, and it would be good to make all that consistent throughout.

			It's harder to draw a firm line than I would have thought. How can we consistently separate ActionMasters, Unleasheds, HOCs, and Robot Heroes? They've all gotten the mainstream toy aisle treatment. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 20:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

GUIGUI: Revoltech's case

2007-12-12T19:45:49Z

Revoltech's case

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	== Let's start with... ==		== Let's start with... ==

	One of the actual classification I don't understand is, why [[Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Transformers_Music_Label\|Optimus Prime Music Label]] is considered as a toy, but [[Soundwave_%28G1%29#Merchandise\|Soundwave Music Label]] is considered as a merchandise.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		One of the actual classification I don't understand is, why [[Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Transformers_Music_Label\|Optimus Prime Music Label]] is considered as a toy, but [[Soundwave_%28G1%29#Merchandise\|Soundwave Music Label]] is considered as a merchandise.

			== Revoltech's case ==

			It seem generally admitted on this wiki that [[Revoltech\|revoltechs]] are considered as toys despite the fact they aren't edited by Takaratomy nor by Hasbro, and doesn't even transform. Discuss.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

GUIGUI at 19:42, 12 December 2007

2007-12-12T19:42:31Z

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	One of the actual classification I don't understand is, why [[Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Transformers_Music_Label\|Optimus Prime Music Label]] is considered as a toy, but ~~the~~ [[Soundwave_%28G1%29#Merchandise\|Soundwave Music Label]] is considered as a merchandise.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		One of the actual classification I don't understand is, why [[Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Transformers_Music_Label\|Optimus Prime Music Label]] is considered as a toy, but [[Soundwave_%28G1%29#Merchandise\|Soundwave Music Label]] is considered as a merchandise.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

GUIGUI at 19:41, 12 December 2007

2007-12-12T19:41:14Z

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	I specifically created this section to determine once and for all what's Merchandise, and what is toys. There already was previously a discussion about that here: http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Merchandise but there wasn't any clear definition that come out of it. I suggest we first discuss in discussion about what make the difference between toys and merchandises, and only when we come to a general consensus, we will put it in the main article.--[[User:GUIGUI\|GUIGUI]] 19:36, 12 December 2007 (UTC)		I specifically created this section to determine once and for all what's Merchandise and what is toys. There already was previously a discussion about that here: http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Merchandise but there wasn't any clear definition that come out of it. I suggest we first discuss in discussion about what make the difference between toys and merchandises, and only when we come to a general consensus, we will put it in the main article.--[[User:GUIGUI\|GUIGUI]] 19:36, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

	== Let's start with... ==		== Let's start with... ==

	One of the actual classification I don't understand is, why [[Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Transformers_Music_Label\|Optimus Prime Music Label]] is considered as a toy, but the [[Soundwave_%28G1%29#Merchandise\|Soundwave Music Label]] is considered as a merchandise.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		One of the actual classification I don't understand is, why [[Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Transformers_Music_Label\|Optimus Prime Music Label]] is considered as a toy, but the [[Soundwave_%28G1%29#Merchandise\|Soundwave Music Label]] is considered as a merchandise.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

GUIGUI: Let's start with...

2007-12-12T19:40:42Z

Let's start with...

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	I specifically created this section to determine once and for all what's Merchandise, and what is toys. There already was previously a discussion about that here: http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Merchandise but there wasn't any clear definition that come out of it. I suggest we first discuss in discussion about what make the difference between toys and merchandises, and only when we come to a general consensus, we will put it in the main article.--[[User:GUIGUI\|GUIGUI]] 19:36, 12 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		I specifically created this section to determine once and for all what's Merchandise, and what is toys. There already was previously a discussion about that here: http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Merchandise but there wasn't any clear definition that come out of it. I suggest we first discuss in discussion about what make the difference between toys and merchandises, and only when we come to a general consensus, we will put it in the main article.--[[User:GUIGUI\|GUIGUI]] 19:36, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

			== Let's start with... ==

			One of the actual classification I don't understand is, why [[Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29_toys#Transformers_Music_Label\|Optimus Prime Music Label]] is considered as a toy, but the [[Soundwave_%28G1%29#Merchandise\|Soundwave Music Label]] is considered as a merchandise.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>