Talk:Metroplex (SG) - Revision history

https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AMetroplex_%28SG%29 Talk:Metroplex (SG) - Revision history 2026-09-12T15:00:36Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Metroplex_(SG)&diff=1615086&oldid=prev M Sipher at 10:11, 8 June 2022 2022-06-08T10:11:23Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:11, 8 June 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Rude. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 12:36, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Rude. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 12:36, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::For the record I didn't actually see your name until you just pointed it out just now, I just saw Sipher's addition on the recent changes page. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:35, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::For the record I didn't actually see your name until you just pointed it out just now, I just saw Sipher's addition on the recent changes page. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:35, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::::For the record, ''I don't actually care which image is used and think this has gotten ridiculous''. Neither image is ''good'', neither appearance is currently "more notable", and neither is worth this much arglebargle. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 06:11, 8 June 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I'm in agreement with the comments here that the SD SG image, while it represents his first appearance and is great artwork, does not make for a good main image. We should not stick with a main pic just because it's the only art of their first appearance if there are better alternatives in terms of what we look for in a main pic. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:38, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I'm in agreement with the comments here that the SD SG image, while it represents his first appearance and is great artwork, does not make for a good main image. We should not stick with a main pic just because it's the only art of their first appearance if there are better alternatives in terms of what we look for in a main pic. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:38, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I also feel I should point out that the main difference between the SD and IDW looks is the colour scheme, and otherwise both looks are just G1 Metroplex in different art styles. It's not a wildly different design. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:55, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I also feel I should point out that the main difference between the SD and IDW looks is the colour scheme, and otherwise both looks are just G1 Metroplex in different art styles. It's not a wildly different design. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:55, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

M Sipher https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Metroplex_(SG)&diff=1614949&oldid=prev Abates at 20:55, 7 June 2022 2022-06-07T20:55:12Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:55, 7 June 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l15">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::For the record I didn't actually see your name until you just pointed it out just now, I just saw Sipher's addition on the recent changes page. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:35, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::For the record I didn't actually see your name until you just pointed it out just now, I just saw Sipher's addition on the recent changes page. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:35, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I'm in agreement with the comments here that the SD SG image, while it represents his first appearance and is great artwork, does not make for a good main image. We should not stick with a main pic just because it's the only art of their first appearance if there are better alternatives in terms of what we look for in a main pic. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:38, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I'm in agreement with the comments here that the SD SG image, while it represents his first appearance and is great artwork, does not make for a good main image. We should not stick with a main pic just because it's the only art of their first appearance if there are better alternatives in terms of what we look for in a main pic. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:38, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::I also feel I should point out that the main difference between the SD and IDW looks is the colour scheme, and otherwise both looks are just G1 Metroplex in different art styles. It's not a wildly different design. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:55, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Abates https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Metroplex_(SG)&diff=1614947&oldid=prev Abates at 20:38, 7 June 2022 2022-06-07T20:38:04Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:38, 7 June 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Rude. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 12:36, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Rude. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 12:36, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::For the record I didn't actually see your name until you just pointed it out just now, I just saw Sipher's addition on the recent changes page. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:35, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::For the record I didn't actually see your name until you just pointed it out just now, I just saw Sipher's addition on the recent changes page. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:35, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:I'm in agreement with the comments here that the SD SG image, while it represents his first appearance and is great artwork, does not make for a good main image. We should not stick with a main pic just because it's the only art of their first appearance if there are better alternatives in terms of what we look for in a main pic. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:38, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Abates https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Metroplex_(SG)&diff=1614916&oldid=prev Locoman at 17:35, 7 June 2022 2022-06-07T17:35:58Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:35, 7 June 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l7">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Seconded. Aligned Hot Shot and Bayverse Onslaught also don't use the first body rule. IMO it's a guideline, not a hard rule. [[User:Iacon0|Iacon0]] ([[User talk:Iacon0|talk]]) 20:55, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Seconded. Aligned Hot Shot and Bayverse Onslaught also don't use the first body rule. IMO it's a guideline, not a hard rule. [[User:Iacon0|Iacon0]] ([[User talk:Iacon0|talk]]) 20:55, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I'm personally in favor of IDW solely on the fact that the close-up (which is the only "first body" image available) makes for a TERRIBLE mainpic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 21:32, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I'm personally in favor of IDW solely on the fact that the close-up (which is the only "first body" image available) makes for a TERRIBLE mainpic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 21:32, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::: I'm fine with keeping the page as is until August, but this seems like a case of one of those "some fiction is more equal than others" scenarios in the making, and in this instance I'd be willing to use a picture from the series that gives him top billing versus the one page punchline from the gag strip. Like... depending on what happens in SGII, it's very likely that we'll have to rewrite the intro paragraph to reflect his personality, right? It'd be a bit misleading to pair that with a main image that's not even from the same series. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 13:35, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::The reason that the likes of The Fallen and AOE Hound are exceptions to the "first body" rule is because those are the first bodies they had in multi-million-dollar blockbuster feature films that pushed those forms of theirs into massively mainstream prominence across the globe. By contrast, the IDW SG comics haven't really been all that prominent. Just a short mini-series that's getting an expansion only just as the publisher is about to lose the license. While SD SG is nothing major either, I really wouldn't call IDW's SG series any kind of a big deal, either. Both are pretty lowkey and fairly obscure. Granted, IDW SG is arguably more known than SD SG, but if the next publisher doesn't continue it after IDW's final issue, it will have come and gone just like every short-lived Transformers comic series that didn't make much of a mark on the brand.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::The reason that the likes of The Fallen and AOE Hound are exceptions to the "first body" rule is because those are the first bodies they had in multi-million-dollar blockbuster feature films that pushed those forms of theirs into massively mainstream prominence across the globe. By contrast, the IDW SG comics haven't really been all that prominent. Just a short mini-series that's getting an expansion only just as the publisher is about to lose the license. While SD SG is nothing major either, I really wouldn't call IDW's SG series any kind of a big deal, either. Both are pretty lowkey and fairly obscure. Granted, IDW SG is arguably more known than SD SG, but if the next publisher doesn't continue it after IDW's final issue, it will have come and gone just like every short-lived Transformers comic series that didn't make much of a mark on the brand.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::In other words, I don't feel that either of SG Metroplex's depictions in SD SG or IDW SG are really that big of a deal for one to be deemed more prominent than the other (especially since the entirety of IDW SG Metroplex's appearances have been as lifeless scenery more than anything), to the point that I honestly don't feel that he currently qualifies as a notable exception to the "first body" rule like such major movie stars as The Fallen and Hound. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:25, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::In other words, I don't feel that either of SG Metroplex's depictions in SD SG or IDW SG are really that big of a deal for one to be deemed more prominent than the other (especially since the entirety of IDW SG Metroplex's appearances have been as lifeless scenery more than anything), to the point that I honestly don't feel that he currently qualifies as a notable exception to the "first body" rule like such major movie stars as The Fallen and Hound. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:25, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Locoman https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Metroplex_(SG)&diff=1614915&oldid=prev Escargon: /* Mainpic */ 2022-06-07T17:35:26Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Mainpic</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:35, 7 June 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l12">Line 12:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 12:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::And with admin weigh-in, I feel more comfortable reverting it to the SD SG pic. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:18, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::And with admin weigh-in, I feel more comfortable reverting it to the SD SG pic. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:18, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Rude. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 12:36, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Rude. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 12:36, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::For the record I didn't actually see your name until you just pointed it out just now, I just saw Sipher's addition on the recent changes page. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:35, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Escargon https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Metroplex_(SG)&diff=1614912&oldid=prev Cyberlink420: /* Mainpic */ 2022-06-07T16:36:15Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Mainpic</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:36, 7 June 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l11">Line 11:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Basically, this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 03:33, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Basically, this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 03:33, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::And with admin weigh-in, I feel more comfortable reverting it to the SD SG pic. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:18, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::And with admin weigh-in, I feel more comfortable reverting it to the SD SG pic. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:18, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::Rude. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 12:36, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Cyberlink420 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Metroplex_(SG)&diff=1614892&oldid=prev Escargon at 13:18, 7 June 2022 2022-06-07T13:18:09Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 13:18, 7 June 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l10">Line 10:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 10:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::In other words, I don't feel that either of SG Metroplex's depictions in SD SG or IDW SG are really that big of a deal for one to be deemed more prominent than the other (especially since the entirety of IDW SG Metroplex's appearances have been as lifeless scenery more than anything), to the point that I honestly don't feel that he currently qualifies as a notable exception to the "first body" rule like such major movie stars as The Fallen and Hound. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:25, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::In other words, I don't feel that either of SG Metroplex's depictions in SD SG or IDW SG are really that big of a deal for one to be deemed more prominent than the other (especially since the entirety of IDW SG Metroplex's appearances have been as lifeless scenery more than anything), to the point that I honestly don't feel that he currently qualifies as a notable exception to the "first body" rule like such major movie stars as The Fallen and Hound. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:25, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Basically, this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 03:33, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Basically, this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 03:33, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::And with admin weigh-in, I feel more comfortable reverting it to the SD SG pic. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:18, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Escargon https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Metroplex_(SG)&diff=1614881&oldid=prev M Sipher at 07:33, 7 June 2022 2022-06-07T07:33:43Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 07:33, 7 June 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l9">Line 9:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::The reason that the likes of The Fallen and AOE Hound are exceptions to the "first body" rule is because those are the first bodies they had in multi-million-dollar blockbuster feature films that pushed those forms of theirs into massively mainstream prominence across the globe. By contrast, the IDW SG comics haven't really been all that prominent. Just a short mini-series that's getting an expansion only just as the publisher is about to lose the license. While SD SG is nothing major either, I really wouldn't call IDW's SG series any kind of a big deal, either. Both are pretty lowkey and fairly obscure. Granted, IDW SG is arguably more known than SD SG, but if the next publisher doesn't continue it after IDW's final issue, it will have come and gone just like every short-lived Transformers comic series that didn't make much of a mark on the brand.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::The reason that the likes of The Fallen and AOE Hound are exceptions to the "first body" rule is because those are the first bodies they had in multi-million-dollar blockbuster feature films that pushed those forms of theirs into massively mainstream prominence across the globe. By contrast, the IDW SG comics haven't really been all that prominent. Just a short mini-series that's getting an expansion only just as the publisher is about to lose the license. While SD SG is nothing major either, I really wouldn't call IDW's SG series any kind of a big deal, either. Both are pretty lowkey and fairly obscure. Granted, IDW SG is arguably more known than SD SG, but if the next publisher doesn't continue it after IDW's final issue, it will have come and gone just like every short-lived Transformers comic series that didn't make much of a mark on the brand.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::In other words, I don't feel that either of SG Metroplex's depictions in SD SG or IDW SG are really that big of a deal for one to be deemed more prominent than the other (especially since the entirety of IDW SG Metroplex's appearances have been as lifeless scenery more than anything), to the point that I honestly don't feel that he currently qualifies as a notable exception to the "first body" rule like such major movie stars as The Fallen and Hound. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:25, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::In other words, I don't feel that either of SG Metroplex's depictions in SD SG or IDW SG are really that big of a deal for one to be deemed more prominent than the other (especially since the entirety of IDW SG Metroplex's appearances have been as lifeless scenery more than anything), to the point that I honestly don't feel that he currently qualifies as a notable exception to the "first body" rule like such major movie stars as The Fallen and Hound. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:25, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::Basically, this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 03:33, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

M Sipher https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Metroplex_(SG)&diff=1614870&oldid=prev Sabrblade: /* Mainpic */ 2022-06-07T04:25:48Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Mainpic</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 04:25, 7 June 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l7">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Seconded. Aligned Hot Shot and Bayverse Onslaught also don't use the first body rule. IMO it's a guideline, not a hard rule. [[User:Iacon0|Iacon0]] ([[User talk:Iacon0|talk]]) 20:55, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Seconded. Aligned Hot Shot and Bayverse Onslaught also don't use the first body rule. IMO it's a guideline, not a hard rule. [[User:Iacon0|Iacon0]] ([[User talk:Iacon0|talk]]) 20:55, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I'm personally in favor of IDW solely on the fact that the close-up (which is the only "first body" image available) makes for a TERRIBLE mainpic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 21:32, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I'm personally in favor of IDW solely on the fact that the close-up (which is the only "first body" image available) makes for a TERRIBLE mainpic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 21:32, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::The reason that the likes of The Fallen and AOE Hound are exceptions to the "first body" rule is because those are the first bodies they had in multi-million-dollar blockbuster feature films that pushed those forms of theirs into massively mainstream prominence across the globe. By contrast, the IDW SG comics haven't really been all that prominent. Just a short mini-series that's getting an expansion only just as the publisher is about to lose the license. While SD SG is nothing major either, I really wouldn't call IDW's SG series any kind of a big deal, either. Both are pretty lowkey and fairly obscure. Granted, IDW SG is arguably more known than SD SG, but if the next publisher doesn't continue it after IDW's final issue, it will have come and gone just like every short-lived Transformers comic series that didn't make much of a mark on the brand.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::In other words, I don't feel that either of SG Metroplex's depictions in SD SG or IDW SG are really that big of a deal for one to be deemed more prominent than the other (especially since the entirety of IDW SG Metroplex's appearances have been as lifeless scenery more than anything), to the point that I honestly don't feel that he currently qualifies as a notable exception to the "first body" rule like such major movie stars as The Fallen and Hound. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:25, 7 June 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Sabrblade https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Metroplex_(SG)&diff=1614817&oldid=prev Escargon at 23:33, 6 June 2022 2022-06-06T23:33:29Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:33, 6 June 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l4">Line 4:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Brought online as a servant yes, but the act is framed as essentially the central figure the present day material of the miniseries is built around. Not on the same level as the gag strip at all. [[User:McBaggins|McBaggins]] ([[User talk:McBaggins|talk]]) 21:13, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Brought online as a servant yes, but the act is framed as essentially the central figure the present day material of the miniseries is built around. Not on the same level as the gag strip at all. [[User:McBaggins|McBaggins]] ([[User talk:McBaggins|talk]]) 21:13, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I agree with Jenny, personally, but don't have a great argument beyond what she's said. I think it's almost certain we'll have full-body Metrotitan-coloured panels galore in the next miniseries, which will make the first-body rule more specious in this case. It just feels odd to give precedence to this new colour scheme over the original one. --[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 23:36, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I agree with Jenny, personally, but don't have a great argument beyond what she's said. I think it's almost certain we'll have full-body Metrotitan-coloured panels galore in the next miniseries, which will make the first-body rule more specious in this case. It just feels odd to give precedence to this new colour scheme over the original one. --[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 23:36, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::Also...it is just straight up Guido Guidi drawing a G1 Metroplex and it being colored as Metrotitan. Which we have main pics for on Metrotitan's page. We don't have one now of the unique original colors for SG Metroplex. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:33, 6 June 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Seconded. Aligned Hot Shot and Bayverse Onslaught also don't use the first body rule. IMO it's a guideline, not a hard rule. [[User:Iacon0|Iacon0]] ([[User talk:Iacon0|talk]]) 20:55, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Seconded. Aligned Hot Shot and Bayverse Onslaught also don't use the first body rule. IMO it's a guideline, not a hard rule. [[User:Iacon0|Iacon0]] ([[User talk:Iacon0|talk]]) 20:55, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I'm personally in favor of IDW solely on the fact that the close-up (which is the only "first body" image available) makes for a TERRIBLE mainpic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 21:32, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I'm personally in favor of IDW solely on the fact that the close-up (which is the only "first body" image available) makes for a TERRIBLE mainpic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 21:32, 5 June 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

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