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	:::::What distinction does it make between the two? That's not me being snitty, that's me really not knowing. All I've read of that is what the Kiss Players timeline says, where it's noted that a "Dimensional shockwave" makes them Micromasters (the point being not that they are Micromasters, but that they can transform, since they weren't able to being hit by it). - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 02:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)		:::::What distinction does it make between the two? That's not me being snitty, that's me really not knowing. All I've read of that is what the Kiss Players timeline says, where it's noted that a "Dimensional shockwave" makes them Micromasters (the point being not that they are Micromasters, but that they can transform, since they weren't able to being hit by it). - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 02:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	::::::If we're to believe the circular new Takara timeline, then the Collection characters appear to be the same characters as the Battlestars/OpComb incarnations of the SixTeams, who are called "Micro Transformers" in OpComb. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 04:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)		::::::If we're to believe the circular new Takara timeline, then the Collection characters appear to be the same characters as the Battlestars/OpComb incarnations of the SixTeams, who are called "Micro Transformers" in OpComb. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 04:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	:::::::The [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/d26f3338bed22f55?dmode=source&output=gplain Sixliner booklet] seems to link some mention of dimensional vibrations to the Micromasters. And the MC Collection ''is'' a timeline branch-- the Sixlinder components could well be Microtransformers in Op Com and Micromasters in MC even ''if'' they are two different things. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 06:32, 20 January 2008 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		:::::::The [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/d26f3338bed22f55?dmode=source&output=gplain Sixliner booklet] seems to link some mention of dimensional vibrations to the Micromasters. And the MC Collection ''is'' a timeline branch-- the Sixlinder components could well be Microtransformers in Op Com and Micromasters in MC even ''if'' they are two different things. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 06:32, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Derik: It took me more than 30 minutes in google to find this translation- I remembered it was buried in a different thread.

2008-01-20T06:32:52Z

It took me more than 30 minutes in google to find this translation- I remembered it was buried in a different thread.

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	::::Okay, whatever. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)		::::Okay, whatever. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	:::::What distinction does it make between the two? That's not me being snitty, that's me really not knowing. All I've read of that is what the Kiss Players timeline says, where it's noted that a "Dimensional shockwave" makes them Micromasters (the point being not that they are Micromasters, but that they can transform, since they weren't able to being hit by it). - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 02:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)		:::::What distinction does it make between the two? That's not me being snitty, that's me really not knowing. All I've read of that is what the Kiss Players timeline says, where it's noted that a "Dimensional shockwave" makes them Micromasters (the point being not that they are Micromasters, but that they can transform, since they weren't able to being hit by it). - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 02:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	::::::If we're to believe the circular new Takara timeline, then the Collection characters appear to be the same characters as the Battlestars/OpComb incarnations of the SixTeams, who are called "Micro Transformers" in OpComb. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 04:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::::::If we're to believe the circular new Takara timeline, then the Collection characters appear to be the same characters as the Battlestars/OpComb incarnations of the SixTeams, who are called "Micro Transformers" in OpComb. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 04:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
			:::::::The [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/d26f3338bed22f55?dmode=source&output=gplain Sixliner booklet] seems to link some mention of dimensional vibrations to the Micromasters. And the MC Collection ''is'' a timeline branch-- the Sixlinder components could well be Microtransformers in Op Com and Micromasters in MC even ''if'' they are two different things. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 06:32, 20 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

M Sipher: /* Merge */

2008-01-20T04:22:28Z

Merge

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	::::...so the fact the Micromaster Collection seems to establish that Micromasters are a separate thing,e ven in Japan is just... nto relevant?		::::...so the fact the Micromaster Collection seems to establish that Micromasters are a separate thing,e ven in Japan is just... nto relevant?
	::::Okay, whatever. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)		::::Okay, whatever. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	:::::What distinction does it make between the two? That's not me being snitty, that's me really not knowing. All I've read of that is what the Kiss Players timeline says, where it's noted that a "Dimensional shockwave" makes them Micromasters (the point being not that they are Micromasters, but that they can transform, since they weren't able to being hit by it). - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 02:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:::::What distinction does it make between the two? That's not me being snitty, that's me really not knowing. All I've read of that is what the Kiss Players timeline says, where it's noted that a "Dimensional shockwave" makes them Micromasters (the point being not that they are Micromasters, but that they can transform, since they weren't able to being hit by it). - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 02:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
			::::::If we're to believe the circular new Takara timeline, then the Collection characters appear to be the same characters as the Battlestars/OpComb incarnations of the SixTeams, who are called "Micro Transformers" in OpComb. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 04:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Chris McFeely at 02:49, 20 January 2008

2008-01-20T02:49:05Z

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	:::"Acting goofier" describes just about the entire cast of ''any'' TF anime. Never mind that character [[scale]] is perpetually fucked-up in TFs anyway. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 01:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)		:::"Acting goofier" describes just about the entire cast of ''any'' TF anime. Never mind that character [[scale]] is perpetually fucked-up in TFs anyway. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 01:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	::::...so the fact the Micromaster Collection seems to establish that Micromasters are a separate thing,e ven in Japan is just... nto relevant?		::::...so the fact the Micromaster Collection seems to establish that Micromasters are a separate thing,e ven in Japan is just... nto relevant?
	::::Okay, whatever. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::::Okay, whatever. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
			:::::What distinction does it make between the two? That's not me being snitty, that's me really not knowing. All I've read of that is what the Kiss Players timeline says, where it's noted that a "Dimensional shockwave" makes them Micromasters (the point being not that they are Micromasters, but that they can transform, since they weren't able to being hit by it). - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 02:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Derik at 02:23, 20 January 2008

2008-01-20T02:23:50Z

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	::I ''really'' don't think that them being a bit smaller and acting goofier is cause to consider them two irreconcilably different things. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]]		::I ''really'' don't think that them being a bit smaller and acting goofier is cause to consider them two irreconcilably different things. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]]
	:::"Acting goofier" describes just about the entire cast of ''any'' TF anime. Never mind that character [[scale]] is perpetually fucked-up in TFs anyway. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 01:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:::"Acting goofier" describes just about the entire cast of ''any'' TF anime. Never mind that character [[scale]] is perpetually fucked-up in TFs anyway. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 01:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
			::::...so the fact the Micromaster Collection seems to establish that Micromasters are a separate thing,e ven in Japan is just... nto relevant?
			::::Okay, whatever. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

M Sipher at 01:49, 20 January 2008

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	::The Micromaster Collection story seems to indicate there's an actual difference- IIRC something happened to the Protoforms in that continuity that caused them to 'become' Micromasters. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)		::The Micromaster Collection story seems to indicate there's an actual difference- IIRC something happened to the Protoforms in that continuity that caused them to 'become' Micromasters. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

	::I ''really'' don't think that them being a bit smaller and acting goofier is cause to consider them two irreconcilably different things. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::I ''really'' don't think that them being a bit smaller and acting goofier is cause to consider them two irreconcilably different things. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]]
			:::"Acting goofier" describes just about the entire cast of ''any'' TF anime. Never mind that character [[scale]] is perpetually fucked-up in TFs anyway. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 01:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Chris McFeely at 01:08, 20 January 2008

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	::Micromasters are smaller and not Juvenile TF's.		::Micromasters are smaller and not Juvenile TF's.
	::The Micromaster Collection story seems to indicate there's an actual difference- IIRC something happened to the Protoforms in that continuity that caused them to 'become' Micromasters. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::The Micromaster Collection story seems to indicate there's an actual difference- IIRC something happened to the Protoforms in that continuity that caused them to 'become' Micromasters. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

			::I ''really'' don't think that them being a bit smaller and acting goofier is cause to consider them two irreconcilably different things. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Derik at 00:34, 20 January 2008

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	It's possible some of the content at Micromaster belongs here though. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 23:37, 19 January 2008 (UTC)		It's possible some of the content at Micromaster belongs here though. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 23:37, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

	:What exactly is the difference? They're... small Transformers. There's really nothing else to either group. In fact, the deviation in name, to my mind, only seems to ''support'' their similarity. They're not called "Micromasters" in Japan because they have nothing to do with the Planet Master. Japanese fiction could have changed them in some radical way to associate them with Master, and let them keep the name - but they didn't. They just did exactly the same thing with them that American fiction does - presents them as ordinary-but-small Transformers, and changed the name so that it wouldn't contradict all the previous Japanese -master stuff. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 23:59, 19 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:What exactly is the difference? They're... small Transformers. There's really nothing else to either group. In fact, the deviation in name, to my mind, only seems to ''support'' their similarity. They're not called "Micromasters" in Japan because they have nothing to do with the Planet Master. Japanese fiction could have changed them in some radical way to associate them with Master, and let them keep the name - but they didn't. They just did exactly the same thing with them that American fiction does - presents them as ordinary-but-small Transformers, and changed the name so that it wouldn't contradict all the previous Japanese -master stuff. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 23:59, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

			::Micromasters are smaller and not Juvenile TF's.
			::The Micromaster Collection story seems to indicate there's an actual difference- IIRC something happened to the Protoforms in that continuity that caused them to 'become' Micromasters. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Chris McFeely at 23:59, 19 January 2008

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	I would oppose merging this article with micromaster because... they're not the same thing. Represented by the same toys or not-- they are different concepts that don't exist side-by-side in continuity. Even the awful DW mini seemed to recognize the difference-- the only Japanese Micros it borrowed as crowdfiller were the ones released under the Micromaster Collection.		I would oppose merging this article with micromaster because... they're not the same thing. Represented by the same toys or not-- they are different concepts that don't exist side-by-side in continuity. Even the awful DW mini seemed to recognize the difference-- the only Japanese Micros it borrowed as crowdfiller were the ones released under the Micromaster Collection.

	It's possible some of the content at Micromaster belongs here though. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 23:37, 19 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		It's possible some of the content at Micromaster belongs here though. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 23:37, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

			:What exactly is the difference? They're... small Transformers. There's really nothing else to either group. In fact, the deviation in name, to my mind, only seems to ''support'' their similarity. They're not called "Micromasters" in Japan because they have nothing to do with the Planet Master. Japanese fiction could have changed them in some radical way to associate them with Master, and let them keep the name - but they didn't. They just did exactly the same thing with them that American fiction does - presents them as ordinary-but-small Transformers, and changed the name so that it wouldn't contradict all the previous Japanese -master stuff. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 23:59, 19 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Derik: New page: ==Merge== I would oppose merging this article with micromaster because... they're not the same thing. Represented by the same toys or not-- they are different concepts that don't exist si...

2008-01-19T23:37:06Z

New page: ==Merge== I would oppose merging this article with micromaster because... they're not the same thing. Represented by the same toys or not-- they are different concepts that don't exist si...

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==Merge==
I would oppose merging this article with micromaster because... they're not the same thing. Represented by the same toys or not-- they are different concepts that don't exist side-by-side in continuity. Even the awful DW mini seemed to recognize the difference-- the only Japanese Micros it borrowed as crowdfiller were the ones released under the Micromaster Collection.

It's possible some of the content at Micromaster belongs here though. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:37, 19 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	:::::What distinction does it make between the two? That's not me being snitty, that's me really not knowing. All I've read of that is what the Kiss Players timeline says, where it's noted that a "Dimensional shockwave" makes them Micromasters (the point being not that they are Micromasters, but that they can transform, since they weren't able to being hit by it). - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 02:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)		:::::What distinction does it make between the two? That's not me being snitty, that's me really not knowing. All I've read of that is what the Kiss Players timeline says, where it's noted that a "Dimensional shockwave" makes them Micromasters (the point being not that they are Micromasters, but that they can transform, since they weren't able to being hit by it). - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 02:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	::::::If we're to believe the circular new Takara timeline, then the Collection characters appear to be the same characters as the Battlestars/OpComb incarnations of the SixTeams, who are called "Micro Transformers" in OpComb. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 04:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)		::::::If we're to believe the circular new Takara timeline, then the Collection characters appear to be the same characters as the Battlestars/OpComb incarnations of the SixTeams, who are called "Micro Transformers" in OpComb. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 04:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	:::::::The [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/d26f3338bed22f55?dmode=source&output=gplain Sixliner booklet] seems to link some mention of dimensional vibrations to the Micromasters. And the MC Collection ''is'' a timeline branch-- the Sixlinder components could well be Microtransformers in Op Com and Micromasters in MC even ''if'' they are two different things. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 06:32, 20 January 2008 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		:::::::The [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/d26f3338bed22f55?dmode=source&output=gplain Sixliner booklet] seems to link some mention of dimensional vibrations to the Micromasters. And the MC Collection ''is'' a timeline branch-- the Sixlinder components could well be Microtransformers in Op Com and Micromasters in MC even ''if'' they are two different things. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 06:32, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

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	::::Okay, whatever. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)		::::Okay, whatever. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	:::::What distinction does it make between the two? That's not me being snitty, that's me really not knowing. All I've read of that is what the Kiss Players timeline says, where it's noted that a "Dimensional shockwave" makes them Micromasters (the point being not that they are Micromasters, but that they can transform, since they weren't able to being hit by it). - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 02:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)		:::::What distinction does it make between the two? That's not me being snitty, that's me really not knowing. All I've read of that is what the Kiss Players timeline says, where it's noted that a "Dimensional shockwave" makes them Micromasters (the point being not that they are Micromasters, but that they can transform, since they weren't able to being hit by it). - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 02:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
	::::::If we're to believe the circular new Takara timeline, then the Collection characters appear to be the same characters as the Battlestars/OpComb incarnations of the SixTeams, who are called "Micro Transformers" in OpComb. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 04:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::::::If we're to believe the circular new Takara timeline, then the Collection characters appear to be the same characters as the Battlestars/OpComb incarnations of the SixTeams, who are called "Micro Transformers" in OpComb. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 04:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
			:::::::The [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/d26f3338bed22f55?dmode=source&output=gplain Sixliner booklet] seems to link some mention of dimensional vibrations to the Micromasters. And the MC Collection ''is'' a timeline branch-- the Sixlinder components could well be Microtransformers in Op Com and Micromasters in MC even ''if'' they are two different things. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 06:32, 20 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	::The Micromaster Collection story seems to indicate there's an actual difference- IIRC something happened to the Protoforms in that continuity that caused them to 'become' Micromasters. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)		::The Micromaster Collection story seems to indicate there's an actual difference- IIRC something happened to the Protoforms in that continuity that caused them to 'become' Micromasters. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

	::I ''really'' don't think that them being a bit smaller and acting goofier is cause to consider them two irreconcilably different things. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::I ''really'' don't think that them being a bit smaller and acting goofier is cause to consider them two irreconcilably different things. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]]
			:::"Acting goofier" describes just about the entire cast of ''any'' TF anime. Never mind that character [[scale]] is perpetually fucked-up in TFs anyway. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 01:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>