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	:::::"Liar" is Neale Davidson's middle name. "These are from Hasbro's notes that no one else in the world saw except for me" is one of his greatest hits. If his information is legit, my name is Fucko McBeandick. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 22 December 2009 (EST)		:::::"Liar" is Neale Davidson's middle name. "These are from Hasbro's notes that no one else in the world saw except for me" is one of his greatest hits. If his information is legit, my name is Fucko McBeandick. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	::::::For what it's worth, Bob Budiansky's notes contained full bios for Downshift, Camshaft and Overdrive (that don't match the Japanese ones) but nothing for the Tyco guys. --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:50, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::::::For what it's worth, Bob Budiansky's notes contained full bios for Downshift, Camshaft and Overdrive (that don't match the Japanese ones) but nothing for the Tyco guys. --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:50, 22 December 2009 (EST)
			::::::And really, the "tech specs" posted read more like Budiansky-wannabeism than Budiansky himself. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 21:52, 22 December 2009 (EST)

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	::::Well, preliminary names are listed elsewhere on the wiki. See [[Cliffjumper (G1)]] - preliminary name "Blow Out". If this is legit, these names should be listed SOMEWHERE on the relevant pages. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:43, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::::Well, preliminary names are listed elsewhere on the wiki. See [[Cliffjumper (G1)]] - preliminary name "Blow Out". If this is legit, these names should be listed SOMEWHERE on the relevant pages. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:43, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	:::::"Liar" is Neale Davidson's middle name. "These are from Hasbro's notes that no one else in the world saw except for me" is one of his greatest hits. If his information is legit, my name is Fucko McBeandick. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 22 December 2009 (EST)		:::::"Liar" is Neale Davidson's middle name. "These are from Hasbro's notes that no one else in the world saw except for me" is one of his greatest hits. If his information is legit, my name is Fucko McBeandick. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 22 December 2009 (EST)
			::::::For what it's worth, Bob Budiansky's notes contained full bios for Downshift, Camshaft and Overdrive (that don't match the Japanese ones) but nothing for the Tyco guys. --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:50, 22 December 2009 (EST)

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	::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	:::In a way, it doesn't matter. The commercial's status as a published source trumps unreleased sources weather or not they are official.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:35, 22 December 2009 (EST)		:::In a way, it doesn't matter. The commercial's status as a published source trumps unreleased sources weather or not they are official.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:35, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	::::"Liar" is Neale Davidson's middle name. "These are from Hasbro's notes that no one else in the world saw except for me" is one of his greatest hits. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	::::Well, preliminary names are listed elsewhere on the wiki. See [[Cliffjumper (G1)]] - preliminary name "Blow Out". If this is legit, these names should be listed SOMEWHERE on the relevant pages. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:43, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::::Well, preliminary names are listed elsewhere on the wiki. See [[Cliffjumper (G1)]] - preliminary name "Blow Out". If this is legit, these names should be listed SOMEWHERE on the relevant pages. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:43, 22 December 2009 (EST)
			:::::"Liar" is Neale Davidson's middle name. "These are from Hasbro's notes that no one else in the world saw except for me" is one of his greatest hits. If his information is legit, my name is Fucko McBeandick. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 22 December 2009 (EST)

ItsWalky: /* Names from elsewhere */

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	::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	:::In a way, it doesn't matter. The commercial's status as a published source trumps unreleased sources weather or not they are official.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:35, 22 December 2009 (EST)		:::In a way, it doesn't matter. The commercial's status as a published source trumps unreleased sources weather or not they are official.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:35, 22 December 2009 (EST)
			::::"Liar" is Neale Davidson's middle name. "These are from Hasbro's notes that no one else in the world saw except for me" is one of his greatest hits. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	::::Well, preliminary names are listed elsewhere on the wiki. See [[Cliffjumper (G1)]] - preliminary name "Blow Out". If this is legit, these names should be listed SOMEWHERE on the relevant pages. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:43, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::::Well, preliminary names are listed elsewhere on the wiki. See [[Cliffjumper (G1)]] - preliminary name "Blow Out". If this is legit, these names should be listed SOMEWHERE on the relevant pages. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:43, 22 December 2009 (EST)

Khajidha: /* Names from elsewhere */

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	::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	:::In a way, it doesn't matter. The commercial's status as a published source trumps unreleased sources weather or not they are official.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:35, 22 December 2009 (EST)		:::In a way, it doesn't matter. The commercial's status as a published source trumps unreleased sources weather or not they are official.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:35, 22 December 2009 (EST)
			::::Well, preliminary names are listed elsewhere on the wiki. See [[Cliffjumper (G1)]] - preliminary name "Blow Out". If this is legit, these names should be listed SOMEWHERE on the relevant pages. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:43, 22 December 2009 (EST)

Jimsorenson: /* Names from elsewhere */

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	:A Google search brings up [http://www.vector-sigma.it/archivio/Specifiche_Tecniche/First_Generation_Tech_Specs.pdf this] document by Neale Davidson. I think any such claims probably orginated from this. For some reason, I'm under the impression that Neale is not a reliable source. So until someone can vouch for this info, I wouldn't add it to the page.--[[User:Tigerpaw28\|Tigerpaw28]] 19:32, 10 December 2009 (EST)		:A Google search brings up [http://www.vector-sigma.it/archivio/Specifiche_Tecniche/First_Generation_Tech_Specs.pdf this] document by Neale Davidson. I think any such claims probably orginated from this. For some reason, I'm under the impression that Neale is not a reliable source. So until someone can vouch for this info, I wouldn't add it to the page.--[[User:Tigerpaw28\|Tigerpaw28]] 19:32, 10 December 2009 (EST)
	::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)
			:::In a way, it doesn't matter. The commercial's status as a published source trumps unreleased sources weather or not they are official.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:35, 22 December 2009 (EST)

Khajidha: /* Names from elsewhere */

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	I don't know how accurate this is, but I've heard the Autobot referred to as Glowvolt, and the Decepticon referred to as Burnvolt before, possibly the names they were given in one or more countries outside the US. Has anyone else heard this previously as well? I haven't seen anything to back this up, but it was something I've heard from a couple of folk some years ago, just wondered if there was anything to it. - [[User:Kayb\|Kayb]] 06:24, 10 December 2009 (EST)		I don't know how accurate this is, but I've heard the Autobot referred to as Glowvolt, and the Decepticon referred to as Burnvolt before, possibly the names they were given in one or more countries outside the US. Has anyone else heard this previously as well? I haven't seen anything to back this up, but it was something I've heard from a couple of folk some years ago, just wondered if there was anything to it. - [[User:Kayb\|Kayb]] 06:24, 10 December 2009 (EST)
	:A Google search brings up [http://www.vector-sigma.it/archivio/Specifiche_Tecniche/First_Generation_Tech_Specs.pdf this] document by Neale Davidson. I think any such claims probably orginated from this. For some reason, I'm under the impression that Neale is not a reliable source. So until someone can vouch for this info, I wouldn't add it to the page.--[[User:Tigerpaw28\|Tigerpaw28]] 19:32, 10 December 2009 (EST)		:A Google search brings up [http://www.vector-sigma.it/archivio/Specifiche_Tecniche/First_Generation_Tech_Specs.pdf this] document by Neale Davidson. I think any such claims probably orginated from this. For some reason, I'm under the impression that Neale is not a reliable source. So until someone can vouch for this info, I wouldn't add it to the page.--[[User:Tigerpaw28\|Tigerpaw28]] 19:32, 10 December 2009 (EST)
			::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)

Tigerpaw28: /* Names from elsewhere */

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	I don't know how accurate this is, but I've heard the Autobot referred to as Glowvolt, and the Decepticon referred to as Burnvolt before, possibly the names they were given in one or more countries outside the US. Has anyone else heard this previously as well? I haven't seen anything to back this up, but it was something I've heard from a couple of folk some years ago, just wondered if there was anything to it. - [[User:Kayb\|Kayb]] 06:24, 10 December 2009 (EST)		I don't know how accurate this is, but I've heard the Autobot referred to as Glowvolt, and the Decepticon referred to as Burnvolt before, possibly the names they were given in one or more countries outside the US. Has anyone else heard this previously as well? I haven't seen anything to back this up, but it was something I've heard from a couple of folk some years ago, just wondered if there was anything to it. - [[User:Kayb\|Kayb]] 06:24, 10 December 2009 (EST)
			:A Google search brings up [http://www.vector-sigma.it/archivio/Specifiche_Tecniche/First_Generation_Tech_Specs.pdf this] document by Neale Davidson. I think any such claims probably orginated from this. For some reason, I'm under the impression that Neale is not a reliable source. So until someone can vouch for this info, I wouldn't add it to the page.--[[User:Tigerpaw28\|Tigerpaw28]] 19:32, 10 December 2009 (EST)

Kayb: /* Names from elsewhere */

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	== Names from elsewhere ==		== Names from elsewhere ==

	I don't know how accurate this is, but I've heard the Autobot referred to as Glowvolt, and the Decepticon referred to as Burnvolt before, possibly the names they were given in one or more countries outside the US. Has anyone else heard this previously as well? I haven't seen anything to back this up, but it was something I've heard from a couple of folk some years ago, just wondered if there was anything to it. - Kayb 10~~/Dec/09 9:30pm AEST~~		I don't know how accurate this is, but I've heard the Autobot referred to as Glowvolt, and the Decepticon referred to as Burnvolt before, possibly the names they were given in one or more countries outside the US. Has anyone else heard this previously as well? I haven't seen anything to back this up, but it was something I've heard from a couple of folk some years ago, just wondered if there was anything to it. - [[User:Kayb\|Kayb]] 06:24, 10 December 2009 (EST)

Kayb: /* Names from elsewhere */

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	== Names from elsewhere ==		== Names from elsewhere ==

	I don't know how accurate this is, but I've heard the Autobot referred to as Glowvolt, and the Decepticon referred to as Burnvolt before, possibly the names they were given in one or more countries outside the US. Has anyone else heard this previously as well? I haven't seen anything to back this up, but it was something I've heard from a couple of folk some years ago, just wondered if there was anything to it.		I don't know how accurate this is, but I've heard the Autobot referred to as Glowvolt, and the Decepticon referred to as Burnvolt before, possibly the names they were given in one or more countries outside the US. Has anyone else heard this previously as well? I haven't seen anything to back this up, but it was something I've heard from a couple of folk some years ago, just wondered if there was anything to it. - Kayb 10/Dec/09 9:30pm AEST

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	:::::"Liar" is Neale Davidson's middle name. "These are from Hasbro's notes that no one else in the world saw except for me" is one of his greatest hits. If his information is legit, my name is Fucko McBeandick. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 22 December 2009 (EST)		:::::"Liar" is Neale Davidson's middle name. "These are from Hasbro's notes that no one else in the world saw except for me" is one of his greatest hits. If his information is legit, my name is Fucko McBeandick. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	::::::For what it's worth, Bob Budiansky's notes contained full bios for Downshift, Camshaft and Overdrive (that don't match the Japanese ones) but nothing for the Tyco guys. --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:50, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::::::For what it's worth, Bob Budiansky's notes contained full bios for Downshift, Camshaft and Overdrive (that don't match the Japanese ones) but nothing for the Tyco guys. --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:50, 22 December 2009 (EST)
			::::::And really, the "tech specs" posted read more like Budiansky-wannabeism than Budiansky himself. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 21:52, 22 December 2009 (EST)

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	::::Well, preliminary names are listed elsewhere on the wiki. See [[Cliffjumper (G1)]] - preliminary name "Blow Out". If this is legit, these names should be listed SOMEWHERE on the relevant pages. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:43, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::::Well, preliminary names are listed elsewhere on the wiki. See [[Cliffjumper (G1)]] - preliminary name "Blow Out". If this is legit, these names should be listed SOMEWHERE on the relevant pages. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:43, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	:::::"Liar" is Neale Davidson's middle name. "These are from Hasbro's notes that no one else in the world saw except for me" is one of his greatest hits. If his information is legit, my name is Fucko McBeandick. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 22 December 2009 (EST)		:::::"Liar" is Neale Davidson's middle name. "These are from Hasbro's notes that no one else in the world saw except for me" is one of his greatest hits. If his information is legit, my name is Fucko McBeandick. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 22 December 2009 (EST)
			::::::For what it's worth, Bob Budiansky's notes contained full bios for Downshift, Camshaft and Overdrive (that don't match the Japanese ones) but nothing for the Tyco guys. --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:50, 22 December 2009 (EST)

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	::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	:::In a way, it doesn't matter. The commercial's status as a published source trumps unreleased sources weather or not they are official.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:35, 22 December 2009 (EST)		:::In a way, it doesn't matter. The commercial's status as a published source trumps unreleased sources weather or not they are official.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:35, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	::::"Liar" is Neale Davidson's middle name. "These are from Hasbro's notes that no one else in the world saw except for me" is one of his greatest hits. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	::::Well, preliminary names are listed elsewhere on the wiki. See [[Cliffjumper (G1)]] - preliminary name "Blow Out". If this is legit, these names should be listed SOMEWHERE on the relevant pages. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:43, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::::Well, preliminary names are listed elsewhere on the wiki. See [[Cliffjumper (G1)]] - preliminary name "Blow Out". If this is legit, these names should be listed SOMEWHERE on the relevant pages. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:43, 22 December 2009 (EST)
			:::::"Liar" is Neale Davidson's middle name. "These are from Hasbro's notes that no one else in the world saw except for me" is one of his greatest hits. If his information is legit, my name is Fucko McBeandick. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 22 December 2009 (EST)

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	::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	:::In a way, it doesn't matter. The commercial's status as a published source trumps unreleased sources weather or not they are official.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:35, 22 December 2009 (EST)		:::In a way, it doesn't matter. The commercial's status as a published source trumps unreleased sources weather or not they are official.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:35, 22 December 2009 (EST)
			::::"Liar" is Neale Davidson's middle name. "These are from Hasbro's notes that no one else in the world saw except for me" is one of his greatest hits. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:45, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	::::Well, preliminary names are listed elsewhere on the wiki. See [[Cliffjumper (G1)]] - preliminary name "Blow Out". If this is legit, these names should be listed SOMEWHERE on the relevant pages. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:43, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::::Well, preliminary names are listed elsewhere on the wiki. See [[Cliffjumper (G1)]] - preliminary name "Blow Out". If this is legit, these names should be listed SOMEWHERE on the relevant pages. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:43, 22 December 2009 (EST)

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	::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)		::I don't know, the actual text says that "though these bios were never realized, the tech-specs given in this book are from Hasbro's notes about these two obscure characters." Sounds official, unless he's lying. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:14, 22 December 2009 (EST)
	:::In a way, it doesn't matter. The commercial's status as a published source trumps unreleased sources weather or not they are official.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:35, 22 December 2009 (EST)		:::In a way, it doesn't matter. The commercial's status as a published source trumps unreleased sources weather or not they are official.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 21:35, 22 December 2009 (EST)
			::::Well, preliminary names are listed elsewhere on the wiki. See [[Cliffjumper (G1)]] - preliminary name "Blow Out". If this is legit, these names should be listed SOMEWHERE on the relevant pages. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:43, 22 December 2009 (EST)