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Deceptitran: BOT: replacing (1) links to "The Reign of Starscream" with "Transformers: The Reign of Starscream"

2011-11-05T09:03:04Z

BOT: replacing (1) links to "The Reign of Starscream" with "Transformers: The Reign of Starscream"

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	::::::Starscream is there. Can he travel between star systems? How much time is occurring between issues if Megatron and Starscream are traveling back and forth to other systems? Maybe it's a moon of Jupiter or something. I thought reading the movie adaptation would make things make more sense, not less. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:46, 2 June 2009 (EDT)		::::::Starscream is there. Can he travel between star systems? How much time is occurring between issues if Megatron and Starscream are traveling back and forth to other systems? Maybe it's a moon of Jupiter or something. I thought reading the movie adaptation would make things make more sense, not less. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:46, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
	::::::I say we wait for the movie to hopefully explain all this. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 06:25, 3 June 2009 (EDT)		::::::I say we wait for the movie to hopefully explain all this. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 06:25, 3 June 2009 (EDT)
	{{quote\|The Decepticon's ship is not called ''NEMESIS''. Instead it has no name and is whatever you want to call it.\|[[The Reign of Starscream]] TPB bonus material.}}		{{quote\|The Decepticon's ship is not called ''NEMESIS''. Instead it has no name and is whatever you want to call it.\|[[Transformers: The Reign of Starscream\|The Reign of Starscream]] TPB bonus material.}}
	Which is it, "it has no name" or it "is whatever you want to call it"? Does that mean if the wiki wanted to call the ship ''The Scurvy Dog'', that would be its canonical name? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 20:43, 15 June 2009 (EDT)		Which is it, "it has no name" or it "is whatever you want to call it"? Does that mean if the wiki wanted to call the ship ''The Scurvy Dog'', that would be its canonical name? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 20:43, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
	:I suspect the intended sentiment is more like, "Whatever makes your Personal Canon happy." --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 15 June 2009 (EDT)		:I suspect the intended sentiment is more like, "Whatever makes your Personal Canon happy." --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

Starfield at 18:34, 22 October 2009

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	::It makes a certain amount of sense. More sense than anything else IMO, if the comics are really in continuity with the film. There really isn't room in the comic story for the ROTF Nemesis to just come out of nowhere with a protoform Decepticon army. If they are both the same ship, there is just a little fudging of facts around the edges. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 14:01, 22 October 2009 (EDT)		::It makes a certain amount of sense. More sense than anything else IMO, if the comics are really in continuity with the film. There really isn't room in the comic story for the ROTF Nemesis to just come out of nowhere with a protoform Decepticon army. If they are both the same ship, there is just a little fudging of facts around the edges. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 14:01, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
	:::No, it doesn't make any sense for all the reasons I posted months ago. One ship was launched years and years ago carrying The Fallen, Soundwave a large crew of Decepticons, and then crash-landed somewhere that was not Mars. Then Starscream's crew launch a different ship later that was later totally blown up, half on Cybertron and half on Mars. That means there are simply two ships with the same design, and the DVD people fucked up. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 14:15, 22 October 2009 (EDT)		:::No, it doesn't make any sense for all the reasons I posted months ago. One ship was launched years and years ago carrying The Fallen, Soundwave a large crew of Decepticons, and then crash-landed somewhere that was not Mars. Then Starscream's crew launch a different ship later that was later totally blown up, half on Cybertron and half on Mars. That means there are simply two ships with the same design, and the DVD people fucked up. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 14:15, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
			::::So where did Starscream get his ship, did he pull it out of his exhaust port? The Decepticons had to built the ROTF Nemesis in order to leave Cybertron. What is the the bigger retcon, a whole new ship that wasn't there before, or that Starscream somehow retrieved Soundwave's ship, patched it up, and flew it to Mars, where it wasn't ''entirely'' blown up and half of it didn't land on Cybertron. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 14:34, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

FFN at 18:15, 22 October 2009

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	:Goddammit. That doesn't even make sense. Don't tell me they saw Defiance and The Reign of Starscream and got confused. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 13:49, 22 October 2009 (EDT)		:Goddammit. That doesn't even make sense. Don't tell me they saw Defiance and The Reign of Starscream and got confused. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 13:49, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
	::It makes a certain amount of sense. More sense than anything else IMO, if the comics are really in continuity with the film. There really isn't room in the comic story for the ROTF Nemesis to just come out of nowhere with a protoform Decepticon army. If they are both the same ship, there is just a little fudging of facts around the edges. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 14:01, 22 October 2009 (EDT)		::It makes a certain amount of sense. More sense than anything else IMO, if the comics are really in continuity with the film. There really isn't room in the comic story for the ROTF Nemesis to just come out of nowhere with a protoform Decepticon army. If they are both the same ship, there is just a little fudging of facts around the edges. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 14:01, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
			:::No, it doesn't make any sense for all the reasons I posted months ago. One ship was launched years and years ago carrying The Fallen, Soundwave a large crew of Decepticons, and then crash-landed somewhere that was not Mars. Then Starscream's crew launch a different ship later that was later totally blown up, half on Cybertron and half on Mars. That means there are simply two ships with the same design, and the DVD people fucked up. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 14:15, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

Starfield at 18:01, 22 October 2009

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	:Goddammit. That doesn't even make sense. Don't tell me they saw Defiance and The Reign of Starscream and got confused. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 13:49, 22 October 2009 (EDT)		:Goddammit. That doesn't even make sense. Don't tell me they saw Defiance and The Reign of Starscream and got confused. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 13:49, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
			::It makes a certain amount of sense. More sense than anything else IMO, if the comics are really in continuity with the film. There really isn't room in the comic story for the ROTF Nemesis to just come out of nowhere with a protoform Decepticon army. If they are both the same ship, there is just a little fudging of facts around the edges. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 14:01, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

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	[[Nemesis (ROTF)\|ROTF Nemesis]] was also wrecked on Mars<ref>ROTF DVD bonus material.</ref>. Coincidence? A case of life imitating Starfield's fanon? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 13:39, 22 October 2009 (EDT)		[[Nemesis (ROTF)\|ROTF Nemesis]] was also wrecked on Mars<ref>ROTF DVD bonus material.</ref>. Coincidence? A case of life imitating Starfield's fanon? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 13:39, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
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			:Goddammit. That doesn't even make sense. Don't tell me they saw Defiance and The Reign of Starscream and got confused. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 13:49, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

Starfield at 17:39, 22 October 2009

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	:I suspect the intended sentiment is more like, "Whatever makes your Personal Canon happy." --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 15 June 2009 (EDT)		:I suspect the intended sentiment is more like, "Whatever makes your Personal Canon happy." --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
	::Defiance didn't help by cribbing this design for the actual Nemesis. God, what a mess that series was. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 02:12, 16 June 2009 (EDT)		::Defiance didn't help by cribbing this design for the actual Nemesis. God, what a mess that series was. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 02:12, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
			[[Nemesis (ROTF)\|ROTF Nemesis]] was also wrecked on Mars<ref>ROTF DVD bonus material.</ref>. Coincidence? A case of life imitating Starfield's fanon? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 13:39, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
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FFN at 06:12, 16 June 2009

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	Which is it, "it has no name" or it "is whatever you want to call it"? Does that mean if the wiki wanted to call the ship ''The Scurvy Dog'', that would be its canonical name? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 20:43, 15 June 2009 (EDT)		Which is it, "it has no name" or it "is whatever you want to call it"? Does that mean if the wiki wanted to call the ship ''The Scurvy Dog'', that would be its canonical name? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 20:43, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
	:I suspect the intended sentiment is more like, "Whatever makes your Personal Canon happy." --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 15 June 2009 (EDT)		:I suspect the intended sentiment is more like, "Whatever makes your Personal Canon happy." --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
			::Defiance didn't help by cribbing this design for the actual Nemesis. God, what a mess that series was. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 02:12, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

Jeysie at 00:51, 16 June 2009

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	{{quote\|The Decepticon's ship is not called ''NEMESIS''. Instead it has no name and is whatever you want to call it.\|[[The Reign of Starscream]] TPB bonus material.}}		{{quote\|The Decepticon's ship is not called ''NEMESIS''. Instead it has no name and is whatever you want to call it.\|[[The Reign of Starscream]] TPB bonus material.}}
	Which is it, "it has no name" or it "is whatever you want to call it"? Does that mean if the wiki wanted to call the ship ''The Scurvy Dog'', that would be its canonical name? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 20:43, 15 June 2009 (EDT)		Which is it, "it has no name" or it "is whatever you want to call it"? Does that mean if the wiki wanted to call the ship ''The Scurvy Dog'', that would be its canonical name? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 20:43, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
			:I suspect the intended sentiment is more like, "Whatever makes your Personal Canon happy." --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

Starfield at 00:43, 16 June 2009

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	::::::Starscream is there. Can he travel between star systems? How much time is occurring between issues if Megatron and Starscream are traveling back and forth to other systems? Maybe it's a moon of Jupiter or something. I thought reading the movie adaptation would make things make more sense, not less. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:46, 2 June 2009 (EDT)		::::::Starscream is there. Can he travel between star systems? How much time is occurring between issues if Megatron and Starscream are traveling back and forth to other systems? Maybe it's a moon of Jupiter or something. I thought reading the movie adaptation would make things make more sense, not less. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:46, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
	::::::I say we wait for the movie to hopefully explain all this. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 06:25, 3 June 2009 (EDT)		::::::I say we wait for the movie to hopefully explain all this. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 06:25, 3 June 2009 (EDT)
			{{quote\|The Decepticon's ship is not called ''NEMESIS''. Instead it has no name and is whatever you want to call it.\|[[The Reign of Starscream]] TPB bonus material.}}
			Which is it, "it has no name" or it "is whatever you want to call it"? Does that mean if the wiki wanted to call the ship ''The Scurvy Dog'', that would be its canonical name? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 20:43, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

FFN at 10:25, 3 June 2009

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	:::::Unless the artist for Revenge of the Fallen's comic and IDW in general are following Michael Bay's ignorance of Mars, Mars doesn't have a sky like that. Mars has two tiny captured, irregularly shaped potato-like moons, and the sun doesn't appear in Mars' sky ''anywhere'' near as large as on Earth. So I think it's fairly reasonable to assume this planet is not Mars. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 16:34, 2 June 2009 (EDT)		:::::Unless the artist for Revenge of the Fallen's comic and IDW in general are following Michael Bay's ignorance of Mars, Mars doesn't have a sky like that. Mars has two tiny captured, irregularly shaped potato-like moons, and the sun doesn't appear in Mars' sky ''anywhere'' near as large as on Earth. So I think it's fairly reasonable to assume this planet is not Mars. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 16:34, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
	::::::Starscream is there. Can he travel between star systems? How much time is occurring between issues if Megatron and Starscream are traveling back and forth to other systems? Maybe it's a moon of Jupiter or something. I thought reading the movie adaptation would make things make more sense, not less. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:46, 2 June 2009 (EDT)		::::::Starscream is there. Can he travel between star systems? How much time is occurring between issues if Megatron and Starscream are traveling back and forth to other systems? Maybe it's a moon of Jupiter or something. I thought reading the movie adaptation would make things make more sense, not less. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:46, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
			::::::I say we wait for the movie to hopefully explain all this. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 06:25, 3 June 2009 (EDT)

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	::::::Starscream is there. Can he travel between star systems? How much time is occurring between issues if Megatron and Starscream are traveling back and forth to other systems? Maybe it's a moon of Jupiter or something. I thought reading the movie adaptation would make things make more sense, not less. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:46, 2 June 2009 (EDT)		::::::Starscream is there. Can he travel between star systems? How much time is occurring between issues if Megatron and Starscream are traveling back and forth to other systems? Maybe it's a moon of Jupiter or something. I thought reading the movie adaptation would make things make more sense, not less. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:46, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
	::::::I say we wait for the movie to hopefully explain all this. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 06:25, 3 June 2009 (EDT)		::::::I say we wait for the movie to hopefully explain all this. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 06:25, 3 June 2009 (EDT)
	{{quote\|The Decepticon's ship is not called ''NEMESIS''. Instead it has no name and is whatever you want to call it.\|[[The Reign of Starscream]] TPB bonus material.}}		{{quote\|The Decepticon's ship is not called ''NEMESIS''. Instead it has no name and is whatever you want to call it.\|[[Transformers: The Reign of Starscream\|The Reign of Starscream]] TPB bonus material.}}
	Which is it, "it has no name" or it "is whatever you want to call it"? Does that mean if the wiki wanted to call the ship ''The Scurvy Dog'', that would be its canonical name? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 20:43, 15 June 2009 (EDT)		Which is it, "it has no name" or it "is whatever you want to call it"? Does that mean if the wiki wanted to call the ship ''The Scurvy Dog'', that would be its canonical name? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 20:43, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
	:I suspect the intended sentiment is more like, "Whatever makes your Personal Canon happy." --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 15 June 2009 (EDT)		:I suspect the intended sentiment is more like, "Whatever makes your Personal Canon happy." --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

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	::It makes a certain amount of sense. More sense than anything else IMO, if the comics are really in continuity with the film. There really isn't room in the comic story for the ROTF Nemesis to just come out of nowhere with a protoform Decepticon army. If they are both the same ship, there is just a little fudging of facts around the edges. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 14:01, 22 October 2009 (EDT)		::It makes a certain amount of sense. More sense than anything else IMO, if the comics are really in continuity with the film. There really isn't room in the comic story for the ROTF Nemesis to just come out of nowhere with a protoform Decepticon army. If they are both the same ship, there is just a little fudging of facts around the edges. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 14:01, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
	:::No, it doesn't make any sense for all the reasons I posted months ago. One ship was launched years and years ago carrying The Fallen, Soundwave a large crew of Decepticons, and then crash-landed somewhere that was not Mars. Then Starscream's crew launch a different ship later that was later totally blown up, half on Cybertron and half on Mars. That means there are simply two ships with the same design, and the DVD people fucked up. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 14:15, 22 October 2009 (EDT)		:::No, it doesn't make any sense for all the reasons I posted months ago. One ship was launched years and years ago carrying The Fallen, Soundwave a large crew of Decepticons, and then crash-landed somewhere that was not Mars. Then Starscream's crew launch a different ship later that was later totally blown up, half on Cybertron and half on Mars. That means there are simply two ships with the same design, and the DVD people fucked up. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 14:15, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
			::::So where did Starscream get his ship, did he pull it out of his exhaust port? The Decepticons had to built the ROTF Nemesis in order to leave Cybertron. What is the the bigger retcon, a whole new ship that wasn't there before, or that Starscream somehow retrieved Soundwave's ship, patched it up, and flew it to Mars, where it wasn't ''entirely'' blown up and half of it didn't land on Cybertron. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 14:34, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

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	:Goddammit. That doesn't even make sense. Don't tell me they saw Defiance and The Reign of Starscream and got confused. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 13:49, 22 October 2009 (EDT)		:Goddammit. That doesn't even make sense. Don't tell me they saw Defiance and The Reign of Starscream and got confused. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 13:49, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
	::It makes a certain amount of sense. More sense than anything else IMO, if the comics are really in continuity with the film. There really isn't room in the comic story for the ROTF Nemesis to just come out of nowhere with a protoform Decepticon army. If they are both the same ship, there is just a little fudging of facts around the edges. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 14:01, 22 October 2009 (EDT)		::It makes a certain amount of sense. More sense than anything else IMO, if the comics are really in continuity with the film. There really isn't room in the comic story for the ROTF Nemesis to just come out of nowhere with a protoform Decepticon army. If they are both the same ship, there is just a little fudging of facts around the edges. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 14:01, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
			:::No, it doesn't make any sense for all the reasons I posted months ago. One ship was launched years and years ago carrying The Fallen, Soundwave a large crew of Decepticons, and then crash-landed somewhere that was not Mars. Then Starscream's crew launch a different ship later that was later totally blown up, half on Cybertron and half on Mars. That means there are simply two ships with the same design, and the DVD people fucked up. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 14:15, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

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	Which is it, "it has no name" or it "is whatever you want to call it"? Does that mean if the wiki wanted to call the ship ''The Scurvy Dog'', that would be its canonical name? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 20:43, 15 June 2009 (EDT)		Which is it, "it has no name" or it "is whatever you want to call it"? Does that mean if the wiki wanted to call the ship ''The Scurvy Dog'', that would be its canonical name? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 20:43, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
	:I suspect the intended sentiment is more like, "Whatever makes your Personal Canon happy." --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 15 June 2009 (EDT)		:I suspect the intended sentiment is more like, "Whatever makes your Personal Canon happy." --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
			::Defiance didn't help by cribbing this design for the actual Nemesis. God, what a mess that series was. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 02:12, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

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	{{quote\|The Decepticon's ship is not called ''NEMESIS''. Instead it has no name and is whatever you want to call it.\|[[The Reign of Starscream]] TPB bonus material.}}		{{quote\|The Decepticon's ship is not called ''NEMESIS''. Instead it has no name and is whatever you want to call it.\|[[The Reign of Starscream]] TPB bonus material.}}
	Which is it, "it has no name" or it "is whatever you want to call it"? Does that mean if the wiki wanted to call the ship ''The Scurvy Dog'', that would be its canonical name? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 20:43, 15 June 2009 (EDT)		Which is it, "it has no name" or it "is whatever you want to call it"? Does that mean if the wiki wanted to call the ship ''The Scurvy Dog'', that would be its canonical name? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 20:43, 15 June 2009 (EDT)
			:I suspect the intended sentiment is more like, "Whatever makes your Personal Canon happy." --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 15 June 2009 (EDT)