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	:::::::::Cinefex's article on ROTF's special effects claims the ship is "hidden behind Saturn." --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 13 October 2009 (EDT)		:::::::::Cinefex's article on ROTF's special effects claims the ship is "hidden behind Saturn." --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
	::::::::::I say it is near Saturn, and the nebula was added just because it was pretty or to reinforce the idea that it's in space. Or maybe even deep space, which doesn't make sense, but eh. It's Bay, it doesn't have to make sense. Just my 2 cents. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196\|66.131.29.196]] 12:24, 23 December 2009 (EST)		::::::::::I say it is near Saturn, and the nebula was added just because it was pretty or to reinforce the idea that it's in space. Or maybe even deep space, which doesn't make sense, but eh. It's Bay, it doesn't have to make sense. Just my 2 cents. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196\|66.131.29.196]] 12:24, 23 December 2009 (EST)
			::::::::::To add to my previous comment, think of it as an equivalent to the space scenes in the Beast Wars cartoon, where we see the Trifid Nebula (M20, in Sagittarius) as we see it on photos, despite the fact that it's about 5000 lightyears away from us. It was just to show that it happened in space. I think we may have the same kind of situation here. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196\|66.131.29.196]] 12:31, 23 December 2009 (EST)

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	::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169\|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)		::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169\|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
	:::::::::Cinefex's article on ROTF's special effects claims the ship is "hidden behind Saturn." --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 13 October 2009 (EDT)		:::::::::Cinefex's article on ROTF's special effects claims the ship is "hidden behind Saturn." --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
	::::::::::I say it is near Saturn, and the nebula was added just ~~becaude~~ it was pretty or to reinforce the idea that it's in space. Or maybe even deep space, which doesn't make sense, but eh. It's Bay, it doesn't have to make sense. Just my 2 cents. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196\|66.131.29.196]] 12:24, 23 December 2009 (EST)		::::::::::I say it is near Saturn, and the nebula was added just because it was pretty or to reinforce the idea that it's in space. Or maybe even deep space, which doesn't make sense, but eh. It's Bay, it doesn't have to make sense. Just my 2 cents. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196\|66.131.29.196]] 12:24, 23 December 2009 (EST)

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	::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169\|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)		::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169\|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
	:::::::::Cinefex's article on ROTF's special effects claims the ship is "hidden behind Saturn." --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 13 October 2009 (EDT)		:::::::::Cinefex's article on ROTF's special effects claims the ship is "hidden behind Saturn." --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
			::::::::::I say it is near Saturn, and the nebula was added just becaude it was pretty or to reinforce the idea that it's in space. Or maybe even deep space, which doesn't make sense, but eh. It's Bay, it doesn't have to make sense. Just my 2 cents. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196\|66.131.29.196]] 12:24, 23 December 2009 (EST)

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	::::::::We do not source leaked information in articles on this wiki. However, recent "chatter in the network" about things which have been ''leaked, stolen or snuck'' leads me to believe that an upcoming Store Exclusive may support just that scenario. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:18, 14 July 2009 (EDT)		::::::::We do not source leaked information in articles on this wiki. However, recent "chatter in the network" about things which have been ''leaked, stolen or snuck'' leads me to believe that an upcoming Store Exclusive may support just that scenario. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:18, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
	::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169\|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)		::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169\|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
			:::::::::Cinefex's article on ROTF's special effects claims the ship is "hidden behind Saturn." --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

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	:::::::Well, seeing how Megatron flew there and flew back with Starscream and a protoform army in—at most—a couple of days, I would think it would have to be Saturn for it not to be an error, and even that is pushing it. We have no idea how or why it crashed anywhere, which is frustrating. I liked the idea it was in a dead star system, then it might have been a system where they previously used a harvester. Could a gas giant planet exist in a dead star system? I don't know. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 10:34, 11 July 2009 (EDT)		:::::::Well, seeing how Megatron flew there and flew back with Starscream and a protoform army in—at most—a couple of days, I would think it would have to be Saturn for it not to be an error, and even that is pushing it. We have no idea how or why it crashed anywhere, which is frustrating. I liked the idea it was in a dead star system, then it might have been a system where they previously used a harvester. Could a gas giant planet exist in a dead star system? I don't know. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 10:34, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
	::::::::We do not source leaked information in articles on this wiki. However, recent "chatter in the network" about things which have been ''leaked, stolen or snuck'' leads me to believe that an upcoming Store Exclusive may support just that scenario. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:18, 14 July 2009 (EDT)		::::::::We do not source leaked information in articles on this wiki. However, recent "chatter in the network" about things which have been ''leaked, stolen or snuck'' leads me to believe that an upcoming Store Exclusive may support just that scenario. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:18, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
			::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169\|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)

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	::::::So I take that to mean "no, I don't have a citation Saturn?" -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:01, 6 July 2009 (EDT)		::::::So I take that to mean "no, I don't have a citation Saturn?" -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:01, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
	:::::::Well, seeing how Megatron flew there and flew back with Starscream and a protoform army in—at most—a couple of days, I would think it would have to be Saturn for it not to be an error, and even that is pushing it. We have no idea how or why it crashed anywhere, which is frustrating. I liked the idea it was in a dead star system, then it might have been a system where they previously used a harvester. Could a gas giant planet exist in a dead star system? I don't know. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 10:34, 11 July 2009 (EDT)		:::::::Well, seeing how Megatron flew there and flew back with Starscream and a protoform army in—at most—a couple of days, I would think it would have to be Saturn for it not to be an error, and even that is pushing it. We have no idea how or why it crashed anywhere, which is frustrating. I liked the idea it was in a dead star system, then it might have been a system where they previously used a harvester. Could a gas giant planet exist in a dead star system? I don't know. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 10:34, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
			::::::::We do not source leaked information in articles on this wiki. However, recent "chatter in the network" about things which have been ''leaked, stolen or snuck'' leads me to believe that an upcoming Store Exclusive may support just that scenario. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:18, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

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	:::::Post another screenshot from a pirated copy of the movie, and you're banned from this site. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 16:22, 6 July 2009 (EDT)		:::::Post another screenshot from a pirated copy of the movie, and you're banned from this site. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 16:22, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
	::::::So I take that to mean "no, I don't have a citation Saturn?" -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:01, 6 July 2009 (EDT)		::::::So I take that to mean "no, I don't have a citation Saturn?" -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:01, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
			:::::::Well, seeing how Megatron flew there and flew back with Starscream and a protoform army in—at most—a couple of days, I would think it would have to be Saturn for it not to be an error, and even that is pushing it. We have no idea how or why it crashed anywhere, which is frustrating. I liked the idea it was in a dead star system, then it might have been a system where they previously used a harvester. Could a gas giant planet exist in a dead star system? I don't know. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 10:34, 11 July 2009 (EDT)

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	::::Do you have any citation for this planet being Saturn ''beyond'' 'butterstotch planet with rings'? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:56, 6 July 2009 (EDT)		::::Do you have any citation for this planet being Saturn ''beyond'' 'butterstotch planet with rings'? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:56, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
	:::::Post another screenshot from a pirated copy of the movie, and you're banned from this site. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 16:22, 6 July 2009 (EDT)		:::::Post another screenshot from a pirated copy of the movie, and you're banned from this site. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 16:22, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
			::::::So I take that to mean "no, I don't have a citation Saturn?" -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:01, 6 July 2009 (EDT)

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	::::Is this like Energon? "We warped into another galaxy on the outer reaches of the solar system."		::::Is this like Energon? "We warped into another galaxy on the outer reaches of the solar system."
	::::Do you have any citation for this planet being Saturn ''beyond'' 'butterstotch planet with rings'? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:56, 6 July 2009 (EDT)		::::Do you have any citation for this planet being Saturn ''beyond'' 'butterstotch planet with rings'? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:56, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
			:::::Post another screenshot from a pirated copy of the movie, and you're banned from this site. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 16:22, 6 July 2009 (EDT)

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	::The various novels make it clear that the ice world the nemesis is crashed on is in another solar system. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 14:58, 6 July 2009 (EDT)		::The various novels make it clear that the ice world the nemesis is crashed on is in another solar system. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 14:58, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
	:::And in the movie, it's on a moon plainly in front of Saturn. It's just another thing different between the movies and the adaptations. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:15, 6 July 2009 (EDT)		:::And in the movie, it's on a moon plainly in front of Saturn. It's just another thing different between the movies and the adaptations. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:15, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
			::::I guess I didn't realize that '''Saturn''' was located [http://emopanda.com/tmp/not_saturn.jpg so close to a '''nebula.''']
			::::Is this like Energon? "We warped into another galaxy on the outer reaches of the solar system."
			::::Do you have any citation for this planet being Saturn ''beyond'' 'butterstotch planet with rings'? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:56, 6 July 2009 (EDT)

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	:::::::::Cinefex's article on ROTF's special effects claims the ship is "hidden behind Saturn." --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 13 October 2009 (EDT)		:::::::::Cinefex's article on ROTF's special effects claims the ship is "hidden behind Saturn." --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
	::::::::::I say it is near Saturn, and the nebula was added just because it was pretty or to reinforce the idea that it's in space. Or maybe even deep space, which doesn't make sense, but eh. It's Bay, it doesn't have to make sense. Just my 2 cents. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196\|66.131.29.196]] 12:24, 23 December 2009 (EST)		::::::::::I say it is near Saturn, and the nebula was added just because it was pretty or to reinforce the idea that it's in space. Or maybe even deep space, which doesn't make sense, but eh. It's Bay, it doesn't have to make sense. Just my 2 cents. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196\|66.131.29.196]] 12:24, 23 December 2009 (EST)
			::::::::::To add to my previous comment, think of it as an equivalent to the space scenes in the Beast Wars cartoon, where we see the Trifid Nebula (M20, in Sagittarius) as we see it on photos, despite the fact that it's about 5000 lightyears away from us. It was just to show that it happened in space. I think we may have the same kind of situation here. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196\|66.131.29.196]] 12:31, 23 December 2009 (EST)

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	::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169\|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)		::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169\|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
	:::::::::Cinefex's article on ROTF's special effects claims the ship is "hidden behind Saturn." --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 13 October 2009 (EDT)		:::::::::Cinefex's article on ROTF's special effects claims the ship is "hidden behind Saturn." --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
	::::::::::I say it is near Saturn, and the nebula was added just ~~becaude~~ it was pretty or to reinforce the idea that it's in space. Or maybe even deep space, which doesn't make sense, but eh. It's Bay, it doesn't have to make sense. Just my 2 cents. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196\|66.131.29.196]] 12:24, 23 December 2009 (EST)		::::::::::I say it is near Saturn, and the nebula was added just because it was pretty or to reinforce the idea that it's in space. Or maybe even deep space, which doesn't make sense, but eh. It's Bay, it doesn't have to make sense. Just my 2 cents. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196\|66.131.29.196]] 12:24, 23 December 2009 (EST)

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	::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169\|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)		::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169\|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
	:::::::::Cinefex's article on ROTF's special effects claims the ship is "hidden behind Saturn." --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 13 October 2009 (EDT)		:::::::::Cinefex's article on ROTF's special effects claims the ship is "hidden behind Saturn." --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
			::::::::::I say it is near Saturn, and the nebula was added just becaude it was pretty or to reinforce the idea that it's in space. Or maybe even deep space, which doesn't make sense, but eh. It's Bay, it doesn't have to make sense. Just my 2 cents. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196\|66.131.29.196]] 12:24, 23 December 2009 (EST)

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	::::::::We do not source leaked information in articles on this wiki. However, recent "chatter in the network" about things which have been ''leaked, stolen or snuck'' leads me to believe that an upcoming Store Exclusive may support just that scenario. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:18, 14 July 2009 (EDT)		::::::::We do not source leaked information in articles on this wiki. However, recent "chatter in the network" about things which have been ''leaked, stolen or snuck'' leads me to believe that an upcoming Store Exclusive may support just that scenario. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:18, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
	::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169\|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)		::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169\|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
			:::::::::Cinefex's article on ROTF's special effects claims the ship is "hidden behind Saturn." --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

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	:::::::Well, seeing how Megatron flew there and flew back with Starscream and a protoform army in—at most—a couple of days, I would think it would have to be Saturn for it not to be an error, and even that is pushing it. We have no idea how or why it crashed anywhere, which is frustrating. I liked the idea it was in a dead star system, then it might have been a system where they previously used a harvester. Could a gas giant planet exist in a dead star system? I don't know. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 10:34, 11 July 2009 (EDT)		:::::::Well, seeing how Megatron flew there and flew back with Starscream and a protoform army in—at most—a couple of days, I would think it would have to be Saturn for it not to be an error, and even that is pushing it. We have no idea how or why it crashed anywhere, which is frustrating. I liked the idea it was in a dead star system, then it might have been a system where they previously used a harvester. Could a gas giant planet exist in a dead star system? I don't know. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 10:34, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
	::::::::We do not source leaked information in articles on this wiki. However, recent "chatter in the network" about things which have been ''leaked, stolen or snuck'' leads me to believe that an upcoming Store Exclusive may support just that scenario. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:18, 14 July 2009 (EDT)		::::::::We do not source leaked information in articles on this wiki. However, recent "chatter in the network" about things which have been ''leaked, stolen or snuck'' leads me to believe that an upcoming Store Exclusive may support just that scenario. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:18, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
			::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169\|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)