Talk:Neutro - Revision history

Nevermore at 21:24, 25 May 2019

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	::So the American release of Groundbuster, who has no fiction, can stay on Neutro's page under the previous Sky High / Flanker precedent, while the Japanese release of Groundshaker, who has appeared alongside Neutro in ''Legends'', gets an independent page? I'm fine with that. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:31, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		::So the American release of Groundbuster, who has no fiction, can stay on Neutro's page under the previous Sky High / Flanker precedent, while the Japanese release of Groundshaker, who has appeared alongside Neutro in ''Legends'', gets an independent page? I'm fine with that. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:31, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
	:::That's what we did for a lot of ''Uprising'' split-out toy characters. Looks like it works here. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 15:54, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		:::That's what we did for a lot of ''Uprising'' split-out toy characters. Looks like it works here. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 15:54, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
			::::I may be a little late to this, but we previously decided to use common sense and assume "intent" by treating the names on the back of the ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)\|Cybertron]]'' [[Street Speed Mini-Con Team]]'s packaging as an error, assuming that [[Backtrack (Armada)#Cybertron\|Backtrack]] and [[Oval#Cybertron\|Oval]] were meant to keep the names of the ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)\|Armada]]'' figures they were retooled and redecoed from rather than having their names swapped. We did the same for "[[Air Raid (G1)#Universe (2008)\|Air Raid]]" and "[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)#Universe (2008)\|Skydive]]" from the 2008 ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)\|Universe]]'' [[Target]] exclusive "Aerial Rivals" five-pack, assuming the figure whose deco is inspired by ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)\|Generation 2]]'' [[Cyberjet]] Air Raid was meant to be named "Air Raid" and the one whose deco was inspired by the ''Generation 2'' redeco of G1 Skydive was meant to be named "Skydive", even though the back of the packaging as well as the instructions say otherwise. Would you also disagree with these decisions?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 17:24, 25 May 2019 (EDT)

S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 at 19:54, 25 May 2019

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	:I really don't see what the big issue here is. Is there something preventing Groundshaker from being his own unique person while Groundbuster continues to be Neutro? Is there something in Groundshaker's ''Legends'' toy bio that declares him to be the same person as his Hasbro-toy counterpart ''Generations Thrilling 30'' Groundbuster? There's already a precedent set by the Targetmaster partner of ''Legends'' Swerve, Phaser, being a different guy from his Hasbro-toy counterpart, Flanker, so why couldn't the same apply for the Hasbro and Takara releases of the Targetmaster partner(s) of Tailgate? These Targetmasters were even packaged together in the same Takara-released set, even. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 01:04, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		:I really don't see what the big issue here is. Is there something preventing Groundshaker from being his own unique person while Groundbuster continues to be Neutro? Is there something in Groundshaker's ''Legends'' toy bio that declares him to be the same person as his Hasbro-toy counterpart ''Generations Thrilling 30'' Groundbuster? There's already a precedent set by the Targetmaster partner of ''Legends'' Swerve, Phaser, being a different guy from his Hasbro-toy counterpart, Flanker, so why couldn't the same apply for the Hasbro and Takara releases of the Targetmaster partner(s) of Tailgate? These Targetmasters were even packaged together in the same Takara-released set, even. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 01:04, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
	::So the American release of Groundbuster, who has no fiction, can stay on Neutro's page under the previous Sky High / Flanker precedent, while the Japanese release of Groundshaker, who has appeared alongside Neutro in ''Legends'', gets an independent page? I'm fine with that. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:31, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		::So the American release of Groundbuster, who has no fiction, can stay on Neutro's page under the previous Sky High / Flanker precedent, while the Japanese release of Groundshaker, who has appeared alongside Neutro in ''Legends'', gets an independent page? I'm fine with that. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:31, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
			:::That's what we did for a lot of ''Uprising'' split-out toy characters. Looks like it works here. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 15:54, 25 May 2019 (EDT)

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	:::::::Really, if we're going to get into it, this page should of been 5 split years ago if the idea that colors are enough to separate characters. The fact that only now the idea to split the page because of a singular cameo in one panel is utterly moronic. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:19, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		:::::::Really, if we're going to get into it, this page should of been 5 split years ago if the idea that colors are enough to separate characters. The fact that only now the idea to split the page because of a singular cameo in one panel is utterly moronic. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:19, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
	:I really don't see what the big issue here is. Is there something preventing Groundshaker from being his own unique person while Groundbuster continues to be Neutro? Is there something in Groundshaker's ''Legends'' toy bio that declares him to be the same person as his Hasbro-toy counterpart ''Generations Thrilling 30'' Groundbuster? There's already a precedent set by the Targetmaster partner of ''Legends'' Swerve, Phaser, being a different guy from his Hasbro-toy counterpart, Flanker, so why couldn't the same apply for the Hasbro and Takara releases of the Targetmaster partner(s) of Tailgate? These Targetmasters were even packaged together in the same Takara-released set, even. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 01:04, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		:I really don't see what the big issue here is. Is there something preventing Groundshaker from being his own unique person while Groundbuster continues to be Neutro? Is there something in Groundshaker's ''Legends'' toy bio that declares him to be the same person as his Hasbro-toy counterpart ''Generations Thrilling 30'' Groundbuster? There's already a precedent set by the Targetmaster partner of ''Legends'' Swerve, Phaser, being a different guy from his Hasbro-toy counterpart, Flanker, so why couldn't the same apply for the Hasbro and Takara releases of the Targetmaster partner(s) of Tailgate? These Targetmasters were even packaged together in the same Takara-released set, even. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 01:04, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
			::So the American release of Groundbuster, who has no fiction, can stay on Neutro's page under the previous Sky High / Flanker precedent, while the Japanese release of Groundshaker, who has appeared alongside Neutro in ''Legends'', gets an independent page? I'm fine with that. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:31, 25 May 2019 (EDT)

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	:::::::If this was in an IDW comic I'd feel the exact same way, so no. And is, in fact, in an IDW comic, with the previously given example of Dropshot. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:16, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		:::::::If this was in an IDW comic I'd feel the exact same way, so no. And is, in fact, in an IDW comic, with the previously given example of Dropshot. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:16, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
	:::::::Really, if we're going to get into it, this page should of been 5 split years ago if the idea that colors are enough to separate characters. The fact that only now the idea to split the page because of a singular cameo in one panel is utterly moronic. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:19, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		:::::::Really, if we're going to get into it, this page should of been 5 split years ago if the idea that colors are enough to separate characters. The fact that only now the idea to split the page because of a singular cameo in one panel is utterly moronic. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:19, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
			:I really don't see what the big issue here is. Is there something preventing Groundshaker from being his own unique person while Groundbuster continues to be Neutro? Is there something in Groundshaker's ''Legends'' toy bio that declares him to be the same person as his Hasbro-toy counterpart ''Generations Thrilling 30'' Groundbuster? There's already a precedent set by the Targetmaster partner of ''Legends'' Swerve, Phaser, being a different guy from his Hasbro-toy counterpart, Flanker, so why couldn't the same apply for the Hasbro and Takara releases of the Targetmaster partner(s) of Tailgate? These Targetmasters were even packaged together in the same Takara-released set, even. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 01:04, 25 May 2019 (EDT)

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	::::::I think things that actually happened should take precedent over things that were intended to happen, but didn't, or your entirely self-serving and circular dismissal of ''Legends''. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 23:49, 24 May 2019 (EDT)		::::::I think things that actually happened should take precedent over things that were intended to happen, but didn't, or your entirely self-serving and circular dismissal of ''Legends''. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 23:49, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
	:::::::If this was in an IDW comic I'd feel the exact same way, so no. And is, in fact, in an IDW comic, with the previously given example of Dropshot. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:16, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		:::::::If this was in an IDW comic I'd feel the exact same way, so no. And is, in fact, in an IDW comic, with the previously given example of Dropshot. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:16, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
			:::::::Really, if we're going to get into it, this page should of been 5 split years ago if the idea that colors are enough to separate characters. The fact that only now the idea to split the page because of a singular cameo in one panel is utterly moronic. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:19, 25 May 2019 (EDT)

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	:::::Dropshot's bio literally follows the same exact basic idea that "Dropshot likes to fight"; the reasons why are not important. As for Neutro, I think the actual designer for the toy's word is far more valuable than the gag-manga strip written and drawn by someone who, for all we know, has no idea they were meant to be the same character. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 May 2019 (EDT)		:::::Dropshot's bio literally follows the same exact basic idea that "Dropshot likes to fight"; the reasons why are not important. As for Neutro, I think the actual designer for the toy's word is far more valuable than the gag-manga strip written and drawn by someone who, for all we know, has no idea they were meant to be the same character. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
	::::::I think things that actually happened should take precedent over things that were intended to happen, but didn't, or your entirely self-serving and circular dismissal of ''Legends''. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 23:49, 24 May 2019 (EDT)		::::::I think things that actually happened should take precedent over things that were intended to happen, but didn't, or your entirely self-serving and circular dismissal of ''Legends''. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 23:49, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
			:::::::If this was in an IDW comic I'd feel the exact same way, so no. And is, in fact, in an IDW comic, with the previously given example of Dropshot. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:16, 25 May 2019 (EDT)

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	::::I think you're grasping for straws now. (I agree with him about Dropshot, but that's not the point of this particular discussion.) [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 20:15, 24 May 2019 (EDT)		::::I think you're grasping for straws now. (I agree with him about Dropshot, but that's not the point of this particular discussion.) [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 20:15, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
	:::::Dropshot's bio literally follows the same exact basic idea that "Dropshot likes to fight"; the reasons why are not important. As for Neutro, I think the actual designer for the toy's word is far more valuable than the gag-manga strip written and drawn by someone who, for all we know, has no idea they were meant to be the same character. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 May 2019 (EDT)		:::::Dropshot's bio literally follows the same exact basic idea that "Dropshot likes to fight"; the reasons why are not important. As for Neutro, I think the actual designer for the toy's word is far more valuable than the gag-manga strip written and drawn by someone who, for all we know, has no idea they were meant to be the same character. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
			::::::I think things that actually happened should take precedent over things that were intended to happen, but didn't, or your entirely self-serving and circular dismissal of ''Legends''. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 23:49, 24 May 2019 (EDT)

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	:::...except for the fact that Dropshots bio explicitly made him the same character, and the only reason why he was split was because of a one panel cameo in Spotlight Hardhead. And again, Neutro appears separately for one singular panel. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 17:59, 24 May 2019 (EDT)		:::...except for the fact that Dropshots bio explicitly made him the same character, and the only reason why he was split was because of a one panel cameo in Spotlight Hardhead. And again, Neutro appears separately for one singular panel. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 17:59, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
	::::I think you're grasping for straws now. (I agree with him about Dropshot, but that's not the point of this particular discussion.) [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 20:15, 24 May 2019 (EDT)		::::I think you're grasping for straws now. (I agree with him about Dropshot, but that's not the point of this particular discussion.) [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 20:15, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
			:::::Dropshot's bio literally follows the same exact basic idea that "Dropshot likes to fight"; the reasons why are not important. As for Neutro, I think the actual designer for the toy's word is far more valuable than the gag-manga strip written and drawn by someone who, for all we know, has no idea they were meant to be the same character. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 20:49, 24 May 2019 (EDT)

Saix at 00:15, 25 May 2019

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	::Ah, yes. There he is. Then yeah, I agree with Saix, going back to my argument from https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Dropshot_(G1) -- if ONE source ''explicitly'' shows these guys as separate characters, and NO source ''explicitly'' identifies them as the same character...then they should be on different pages. (And, frankly, I don't see why the Dropshot decision was reversed either). --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 17:02, 24 May 2019 (EDT)		::Ah, yes. There he is. Then yeah, I agree with Saix, going back to my argument from https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Dropshot_(G1) -- if ONE source ''explicitly'' shows these guys as separate characters, and NO source ''explicitly'' identifies them as the same character...then they should be on different pages. (And, frankly, I don't see why the Dropshot decision was reversed either). --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 17:02, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
	:::...except for the fact that Dropshots bio explicitly made him the same character, and the only reason why he was split was because of a one panel cameo in Spotlight Hardhead. And again, Neutro appears separately for one singular panel. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 17:59, 24 May 2019 (EDT)		:::...except for the fact that Dropshots bio explicitly made him the same character, and the only reason why he was split was because of a one panel cameo in Spotlight Hardhead. And again, Neutro appears separately for one singular panel. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 17:59, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
			::::I think you're grasping for straws now. (I agree with him about Dropshot, but that's not the point of this particular discussion.) [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 20:15, 24 May 2019 (EDT)

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	:Yellow Neutro and blue Groundshaker show up as separate characters in the Big Powered prologue comic. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 15:43, 24 May 2019 (EDT)		:Yellow Neutro and blue Groundshaker show up as separate characters in the Big Powered prologue comic. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 15:43, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
	::Ah, yes. There he is. Then yeah, I agree with Saix, going back to my argument from https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Dropshot_(G1) -- if ONE source ''explicitly'' shows these guys as separate characters, and NO source ''explicitly'' identifies them as the same character...then they should be on different pages. (And, frankly, I don't see why the Dropshot decision was reversed either). --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 17:02, 24 May 2019 (EDT)		::Ah, yes. There he is. Then yeah, I agree with Saix, going back to my argument from https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Dropshot_(G1) -- if ONE source ''explicitly'' shows these guys as separate characters, and NO source ''explicitly'' identifies them as the same character...then they should be on different pages. (And, frankly, I don't see why the Dropshot decision was reversed either). --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 17:02, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
			:::...except for the fact that Dropshots bio explicitly made him the same character, and the only reason why he was split was because of a one panel cameo in Spotlight Hardhead. And again, Neutro appears separately for one singular panel. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 17:59, 24 May 2019 (EDT)

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	::So the American release of Groundbuster, who has no fiction, can stay on Neutro's page under the previous Sky High / Flanker precedent, while the Japanese release of Groundshaker, who has appeared alongside Neutro in ''Legends'', gets an independent page? I'm fine with that. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:31, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		::So the American release of Groundbuster, who has no fiction, can stay on Neutro's page under the previous Sky High / Flanker precedent, while the Japanese release of Groundshaker, who has appeared alongside Neutro in ''Legends'', gets an independent page? I'm fine with that. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:31, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
	:::That's what we did for a lot of ''Uprising'' split-out toy characters. Looks like it works here. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 15:54, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		:::That's what we did for a lot of ''Uprising'' split-out toy characters. Looks like it works here. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 15:54, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
			::::I may be a little late to this, but we previously decided to use common sense and assume "intent" by treating the names on the back of the ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)\|Cybertron]]'' [[Street Speed Mini-Con Team]]'s packaging as an error, assuming that [[Backtrack (Armada)#Cybertron\|Backtrack]] and [[Oval#Cybertron\|Oval]] were meant to keep the names of the ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)\|Armada]]'' figures they were retooled and redecoed from rather than having their names swapped. We did the same for "[[Air Raid (G1)#Universe (2008)\|Air Raid]]" and "[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)#Universe (2008)\|Skydive]]" from the 2008 ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)\|Universe]]'' [[Target]] exclusive "Aerial Rivals" five-pack, assuming the figure whose deco is inspired by ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)\|Generation 2]]'' [[Cyberjet]] Air Raid was meant to be named "Air Raid" and the one whose deco was inspired by the ''Generation 2'' redeco of G1 Skydive was meant to be named "Skydive", even though the back of the packaging as well as the instructions say otherwise. Would you also disagree with these decisions?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 17:24, 25 May 2019 (EDT)

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	:I really don't see what the big issue here is. Is there something preventing Groundshaker from being his own unique person while Groundbuster continues to be Neutro? Is there something in Groundshaker's ''Legends'' toy bio that declares him to be the same person as his Hasbro-toy counterpart ''Generations Thrilling 30'' Groundbuster? There's already a precedent set by the Targetmaster partner of ''Legends'' Swerve, Phaser, being a different guy from his Hasbro-toy counterpart, Flanker, so why couldn't the same apply for the Hasbro and Takara releases of the Targetmaster partner(s) of Tailgate? These Targetmasters were even packaged together in the same Takara-released set, even. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 01:04, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		:I really don't see what the big issue here is. Is there something preventing Groundshaker from being his own unique person while Groundbuster continues to be Neutro? Is there something in Groundshaker's ''Legends'' toy bio that declares him to be the same person as his Hasbro-toy counterpart ''Generations Thrilling 30'' Groundbuster? There's already a precedent set by the Targetmaster partner of ''Legends'' Swerve, Phaser, being a different guy from his Hasbro-toy counterpart, Flanker, so why couldn't the same apply for the Hasbro and Takara releases of the Targetmaster partner(s) of Tailgate? These Targetmasters were even packaged together in the same Takara-released set, even. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 01:04, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
	::So the American release of Groundbuster, who has no fiction, can stay on Neutro's page under the previous Sky High / Flanker precedent, while the Japanese release of Groundshaker, who has appeared alongside Neutro in ''Legends'', gets an independent page? I'm fine with that. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:31, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		::So the American release of Groundbuster, who has no fiction, can stay on Neutro's page under the previous Sky High / Flanker precedent, while the Japanese release of Groundshaker, who has appeared alongside Neutro in ''Legends'', gets an independent page? I'm fine with that. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:31, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
			:::That's what we did for a lot of ''Uprising'' split-out toy characters. Looks like it works here. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 15:54, 25 May 2019 (EDT)

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	:::::::Really, if we're going to get into it, this page should of been 5 split years ago if the idea that colors are enough to separate characters. The fact that only now the idea to split the page because of a singular cameo in one panel is utterly moronic. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:19, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		:::::::Really, if we're going to get into it, this page should of been 5 split years ago if the idea that colors are enough to separate characters. The fact that only now the idea to split the page because of a singular cameo in one panel is utterly moronic. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:19, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
	:I really don't see what the big issue here is. Is there something preventing Groundshaker from being his own unique person while Groundbuster continues to be Neutro? Is there something in Groundshaker's ''Legends'' toy bio that declares him to be the same person as his Hasbro-toy counterpart ''Generations Thrilling 30'' Groundbuster? There's already a precedent set by the Targetmaster partner of ''Legends'' Swerve, Phaser, being a different guy from his Hasbro-toy counterpart, Flanker, so why couldn't the same apply for the Hasbro and Takara releases of the Targetmaster partner(s) of Tailgate? These Targetmasters were even packaged together in the same Takara-released set, even. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 01:04, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		:I really don't see what the big issue here is. Is there something preventing Groundshaker from being his own unique person while Groundbuster continues to be Neutro? Is there something in Groundshaker's ''Legends'' toy bio that declares him to be the same person as his Hasbro-toy counterpart ''Generations Thrilling 30'' Groundbuster? There's already a precedent set by the Targetmaster partner of ''Legends'' Swerve, Phaser, being a different guy from his Hasbro-toy counterpart, Flanker, so why couldn't the same apply for the Hasbro and Takara releases of the Targetmaster partner(s) of Tailgate? These Targetmasters were even packaged together in the same Takara-released set, even. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 01:04, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
			::So the American release of Groundbuster, who has no fiction, can stay on Neutro's page under the previous Sky High / Flanker precedent, while the Japanese release of Groundshaker, who has appeared alongside Neutro in ''Legends'', gets an independent page? I'm fine with that. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:31, 25 May 2019 (EDT)

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	:::::::If this was in an IDW comic I'd feel the exact same way, so no. And is, in fact, in an IDW comic, with the previously given example of Dropshot. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:16, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		:::::::If this was in an IDW comic I'd feel the exact same way, so no. And is, in fact, in an IDW comic, with the previously given example of Dropshot. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:16, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
	:::::::Really, if we're going to get into it, this page should of been 5 split years ago if the idea that colors are enough to separate characters. The fact that only now the idea to split the page because of a singular cameo in one panel is utterly moronic. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:19, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		:::::::Really, if we're going to get into it, this page should of been 5 split years ago if the idea that colors are enough to separate characters. The fact that only now the idea to split the page because of a singular cameo in one panel is utterly moronic. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:19, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
			:I really don't see what the big issue here is. Is there something preventing Groundshaker from being his own unique person while Groundbuster continues to be Neutro? Is there something in Groundshaker's ''Legends'' toy bio that declares him to be the same person as his Hasbro-toy counterpart ''Generations Thrilling 30'' Groundbuster? There's already a precedent set by the Targetmaster partner of ''Legends'' Swerve, Phaser, being a different guy from his Hasbro-toy counterpart, Flanker, so why couldn't the same apply for the Hasbro and Takara releases of the Targetmaster partner(s) of Tailgate? These Targetmasters were even packaged together in the same Takara-released set, even. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 01:04, 25 May 2019 (EDT)

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	::::::I think things that actually happened should take precedent over things that were intended to happen, but didn't, or your entirely self-serving and circular dismissal of ''Legends''. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 23:49, 24 May 2019 (EDT)		::::::I think things that actually happened should take precedent over things that were intended to happen, but didn't, or your entirely self-serving and circular dismissal of ''Legends''. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 23:49, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
	:::::::If this was in an IDW comic I'd feel the exact same way, so no. And is, in fact, in an IDW comic, with the previously given example of Dropshot. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:16, 25 May 2019 (EDT)		:::::::If this was in an IDW comic I'd feel the exact same way, so no. And is, in fact, in an IDW comic, with the previously given example of Dropshot. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:16, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
			:::::::Really, if we're going to get into it, this page should of been 5 split years ago if the idea that colors are enough to separate characters. The fact that only now the idea to split the page because of a singular cameo in one panel is utterly moronic. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 00:19, 25 May 2019 (EDT)