Talk:Omni Productions - Revision history

JoseBxR: /* Notes */

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	==Notes==		==Notes==
	While I'm busy identifying G1 animation, I'll just mention that what was said by the source "dubbers" tracks with what I've always suspected about the work. I have a series on youtube called "Chop-Sucky: Bad Kung Fu Dubs" (long-running only because my free time is nil) because ever since the days I recorded this stuff on cassettes, I've been endlessly entertained by ersatz voice-over work on classic kung-fu flicks. Although this page credits Omni as if they did most if not all the dubs from 70's-80's, I don't believe that, as the "teams" involved from film to film are too varied for that. I may research the histories of other firms - I'm sure the legend Teddy Thomas had his own crew that included Rik for a time, and it's possibly the same with Vaughan Savidge - but the work we understand as "Omni" I recall to only exist maybe in the late 80's onward, usually in VHS kung-fu releases from Ocean Shores Video, and adaptations of the horrific martial films out of the Korean industry. I'm sure my series has some examples of these specific crews. As said previously, the results of these dubs could not be chalked up solely to a lack of talent and expertise. It's the assembly-line nature of the work that made these dubs uniquely awful. They simply had low budgets and what I call "a deadline of yesterday" to record and publish, much like the issues that plagued some of the animation, even from greatly talented people. We poke fun as I do, but I do understand the limitations involved. When Galvatron goes "You'll find out soo-LAW-HAWHAWHAWHAW!" I crack up because I realized immediately that Rik misjudged the timing of the laugh animation, but also that there just wasn't time enough to record and edit in a better take. That's one example of what made kung-fu dubs funny to me in a way that other dubs aren't. Additionally, these two lines under "Characteristics" - "The word 'idea' is consistently pronounced like 'idear' by several characters" and "'Decepticon' is sometimes pronounced by the narrator as 'Decepticun'" seem unfair to me because they could be seen as a remark of the dubs' quality, when it's simply a reflection of their English or Australian accents. Again, we poke fun, but I did make an edit there to point that out; hope you don't mind.		While I'm busy identifying G1 animation, I'll just mention that what was said by the source "dubbers" tracks with what I've always suspected about the work. I have a series on youtube called "Chop-Sucky: Bad Kung Fu Dubs" (long-running only because my free time is nil) because ever since the days I recorded this stuff on cassettes, I've been endlessly entertained by ersatz voice-over work on classic kung-fu flicks. Although this page credits Omni as if they did most if not all the dubs from 70's-80's, I don't believe that, as the "teams" involved from film to film are too varied for that. I may research the histories of other firms - I'm sure the legend Teddy Thomas had his own crew that included Rik for a time, and it's possibly the same with Vaughan Savidge - but the work we understand as "Omni" I recall to only exist maybe in the late 80's onward, usually in VHS kung-fu releases from Ocean Shores Video, and adaptations of the horrific martial films out of the Korean industry. I'm sure my series has some examples of these specific crews. As said previously, the results of these dubs could not be chalked up solely to a lack of talent and expertise. It's the assembly-line nature of the work that made these dubs uniquely awful. They simply had low budgets and what I call "a deadline of yesterday" to record and publish, much like the issues that plagued some of the animation, even from greatly talented people. We poke fun as I do, but I do understand the limitations involved. When Galvatron goes "You'll find out soo-LAW-HAWHAWHAWHAW!" I crack up because I realized immediately that Rik misjudged the timing of the laugh animation, but also that there just wasn't time enough to record and edit in a better take. That's one example of what made kung-fu dubs funny to me in a way that other dubs aren't. Additionally, these two lines under "Characteristics" - "The word 'idea' is consistently pronounced like 'idear' by several characters" and "'Decepticon' is sometimes pronounced by the narrator as 'Decepticun'" seem unfair to me because they could be seen as a remark of the dubs' quality, when it's simply a reflection of their English or Australian accents. Again, we poke fun, but I did make an edit there to point that out; hope you don't mind. [[User:JoseBxR\|JoseBxR]] ([[User talk:JoseBxR\|talk]]) 19:14, 23 April 2023 (EDT)

JoseBxR at 16:54, 23 April 2023

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	:Surprisingly, yes, these are official, seeing how they've appeared on official DVDs and how Hasbro currently now owns the rights to these dubs outside of Japan.[[User:DDog\|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog\|talk]]) 23:28, 7 June 2021 (EDT)		:Surprisingly, yes, these are official, seeing how they've appeared on official DVDs and how Hasbro currently now owns the rights to these dubs outside of Japan.[[User:DDog\|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog\|talk]]) 23:28, 7 June 2021 (EDT)
	I can understand why people would think it is a bootleg. The dub was really bad and had a lot of wrong names. [[User:Bergen08\|Bergen08]] ([[User talk:Bergen08\|talk]]) 01:47, 8 June 2021 (EDT)		I can understand why people would think it is a bootleg. The dub was really bad and had a lot of wrong names. [[User:Bergen08\|Bergen08]] ([[User talk:Bergen08\|talk]]) 01:47, 8 June 2021 (EDT)

			==Notes==
			While I'm busy identifying G1 animation, I'll just mention that what was said by the source "dubbers" tracks with what I've always suspected about the work. I have a series on youtube called "Chop-Sucky: Bad Kung Fu Dubs" (long-running only because my free time is nil) because ever since the days I recorded this stuff on cassettes, I've been endlessly entertained by ersatz voice-over work on classic kung-fu flicks. Although this page credits Omni as if they did most if not all the dubs from 70's-80's, I don't believe that, as the "teams" involved from film to film are too varied for that. I may research the histories of other firms - I'm sure the legend Teddy Thomas had his own crew that included Rik for a time, and it's possibly the same with Vaughan Savidge - but the work we understand as "Omni" I recall to only exist maybe in the late 80's onward, usually in VHS kung-fu releases from Ocean Shores Video, and adaptations of the horrific martial films out of the Korean industry. I'm sure my series has some examples of these specific crews. As said previously, the results of these dubs could not be chalked up solely to a lack of talent and expertise. It's the assembly-line nature of the work that made these dubs uniquely awful. They simply had low budgets and what I call "a deadline of yesterday" to record and publish, much like the issues that plagued some of the animation, even from greatly talented people. We poke fun as I do, but I do understand the limitations involved. When Galvatron goes "You'll find out soo-LAW-HAWHAWHAWHAW!" I crack up because I realized immediately that Rik misjudged the timing of the laugh animation, but also that there just wasn't time enough to record and edit in a better take. That's one example of what made kung-fu dubs funny to me in a way that other dubs aren't. Additionally, these two lines under "Characteristics" - "The word 'idea' is consistently pronounced like 'idear' by several characters" and "'Decepticon' is sometimes pronounced by the narrator as 'Decepticun'" seem unfair to me because they could be seen as a remark of the dubs' quality, when it's simply a reflection of their English or Australian accents. Again, we poke fun, but I did make an edit there to point that out; hope you don't mind.

Cyberlink420 at 05:24, 28 November 2021

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	== Related vid ==		== Related vid ==

	I posted this in the AllSpark thread, but I figured I'd put it here to make it easier to find. A poster on the Classic Horror Film board posted a clip which shows some dubbers in action, and some of the voices are familiar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlIPmXyHp1Y#t=341s --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 22:05, 18 March 2013 (EDT)		I posted this in the AllSpark thread, but I figured I'd put it here to make it easier to find. A poster on the Classic Horror Film board posted a clip which shows some dubbers in action, and some of the voices are familiar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlIPmXyHp1Y&t=341s --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 22:05, 18 March 2013 (EDT)

	== Saul, Garth, etc. ==		== Saul, Garth, etc. ==
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	First of all, there is a rather large mistake on this page. John Culkin is not in the Headmasters dub. All of the roles currently assigned to him were actually done by an actor named Pierre Tremblay. Here is Pierre dubbing an actor in the infamous Riki-Oh.		First of all, there is a rather large mistake on this page. John Culkin is not in the Headmasters dub. All of the roles currently assigned to him were actually done by an actor named Pierre Tremblay. Here is Pierre dubbing an actor in the infamous Riki-Oh.
	https://~~youtu~~.be/OyXohnrEXVA?t=31m9s		https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyXohnrEXVA&t=31m9s

	Sound familiar? It should because that is the exact same voice as Cyclonus.		Sound familiar? It should because that is the exact same voice as Cyclonus.
	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcfclhHnZKM#t=0m14s		https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcfclhHnZKM&t=0m14s

	The best course of action might be to simply rename the John Culkin page to Pierre Tremblay. Although since I haven't seen the dubs of the other two series I can't speak as to whether or not John actually is in those. I'll leave this up to someone who has seen those dubs and can confirm whether or not those voices sound like the ones in Headmasters.		The best course of action might be to simply rename the John Culkin page to Pierre Tremblay. Although since I haven't seen the dubs of the other two series I can't speak as to whether or not John actually is in those. I'll leave this up to someone who has seen those dubs and can confirm whether or not those voices sound like the ones in Headmasters.
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	I've already brought up Pierre Tremblay while Rik Thomas and Simon Broad are pretty self-evident as well. There is potentially one more guy here. He plays Scorponok, Spike, Chromedome, possibly Ultra Magnus and... uh... nobody else far as I can tell. Given the minuscule amount of roles this guy has I think it's fairly safe to say this is actually one of the other guys here and I fell most confident that it's Simon for a few reasons. Reason 1 is that Fortress Maximus sounds an awful lot like Scorponok in episode 13, the one where he fights that plant monster. Reason 2 is Ultra Magnus, who seems to flip flop between sounding like Spike and sounding like Highbrow. Reason 3 is Simon's natural voice, which is actually quite deep and not too far a cry from Scorponok. YOu can hear it in this interview.		I've already brought up Pierre Tremblay while Rik Thomas and Simon Broad are pretty self-evident as well. There is potentially one more guy here. He plays Scorponok, Spike, Chromedome, possibly Ultra Magnus and... uh... nobody else far as I can tell. Given the minuscule amount of roles this guy has I think it's fairly safe to say this is actually one of the other guys here and I fell most confident that it's Simon for a few reasons. Reason 1 is that Fortress Maximus sounds an awful lot like Scorponok in episode 13, the one where he fights that plant monster. Reason 2 is Ultra Magnus, who seems to flip flop between sounding like Spike and sounding like Highbrow. Reason 3 is Simon's natural voice, which is actually quite deep and not too far a cry from Scorponok. YOu can hear it in this interview.
	https://~~youtu~~.be/fl3Tli41JHY		https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl3Tli41JHY

	So yeah, that's pretty much it. [[User:Nightmare Crusher\|Nightmare Crusher]] ([[User talk:Nightmare Crusher\|talk]]) 13:01, 2 December 2016 (EST)		So yeah, that's pretty much it. [[User:Nightmare Crusher\|Nightmare Crusher]] ([[User talk:Nightmare Crusher\|talk]]) 13:01, 2 December 2016 (EST)

Bergen08 at 05:47, 8 June 2021

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	Is the Omni Productions really official? I thought they were bootleg. Does Tfwiki allow bootleg info? [[User:Tylerwu\|Tylerwu]] ([[User talk:Tylerwu\|talk]]) 22:55, 7 June 2021 (EDT)		Is the Omni Productions really official? I thought they were bootleg. Does Tfwiki allow bootleg info? [[User:Tylerwu\|Tylerwu]] ([[User talk:Tylerwu\|talk]]) 22:55, 7 June 2021 (EDT)
	:Surprisingly, yes, these are official, seeing how they've appeared on official DVDs and how Hasbro currently now owns the rights to these dubs outside of Japan.[[User:DDog\|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog\|talk]]) 23:28, 7 June 2021 (EDT)		:Surprisingly, yes, these are official, seeing how they've appeared on official DVDs and how Hasbro currently now owns the rights to these dubs outside of Japan.[[User:DDog\|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog\|talk]]) 23:28, 7 June 2021 (EDT)
			I can understand why people would think it is a bootleg. The dub was really bad and had a lot of wrong names. [[User:Bergen08\|Bergen08]] ([[User talk:Bergen08\|talk]]) 01:47, 8 June 2021 (EDT)

DDog: /* Is this legit? */

2021-06-08T03:28:07Z

Is this legit?

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	==Is this legit?==		==Is this legit?==
	Is the Omni Productions really official? I thought they were bootleg. Does Tfwiki allow bootleg info? [[User:Tylerwu\|Tylerwu]] ([[User talk:Tylerwu\|talk]]) 22:55, 7 June 2021 (EDT)		Is the Omni Productions really official? I thought they were bootleg. Does Tfwiki allow bootleg info? [[User:Tylerwu\|Tylerwu]] ([[User talk:Tylerwu\|talk]]) 22:55, 7 June 2021 (EDT)
			:Surprisingly, yes, these are official, seeing how they've appeared on official DVDs and how Hasbro currently now owns the rights to these dubs outside of Japan.[[User:DDog\|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog\|talk]]) 23:28, 7 June 2021 (EDT)

Tylerwu at 02:55, 8 June 2021

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	[[User:Nightmare Crusher\|Nightmare Crusher]] ([[User talk:Nightmare Crusher\|talk]]) 9:29, 23 November 2019 (EST)		[[User:Nightmare Crusher\|Nightmare Crusher]] ([[User talk:Nightmare Crusher\|talk]]) 9:29, 23 November 2019 (EST)
	:: Late reply but once again, thank you. Energizier 00:43, 13 April 2021 (EDT)		:: Late reply but once again, thank you. Energizier 00:43, 13 April 2021 (EDT)

			==Is this legit?==
			Is the Omni Productions really official? I thought they were bootleg. Does Tfwiki allow bootleg info? [[User:Tylerwu\|Tylerwu]] ([[User talk:Tylerwu\|talk]]) 22:55, 7 June 2021 (EDT)

Energizer: /* Corrections + More Dubber Info */

2021-04-13T04:43:36Z

Corrections + More Dubber Info

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	[[User:Nightmare Crusher\|Nightmare Crusher]] ([[User talk:Nightmare Crusher\|talk]]) 9:29, 23 November 2019 (EST)		[[User:Nightmare Crusher\|Nightmare Crusher]] ([[User talk:Nightmare Crusher\|talk]]) 9:29, 23 November 2019 (EST)
			:: Late reply but once again, thank you. Energizier 00:43, 13 April 2021 (EDT)

Abates: /* Things */

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Things

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	So hurray, legitimacy!		So hurray, legitimacy!

	Also, an article on dubbing in Hong Kong from the [[Omni_Productions/SCMP\|South China Morning Post]] mentioning Omni Productions, but it might not strictly apply to the company as it was when it dubbed TF if the above comments are of any indication... --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 10:43, 15 January 2012 (EST)		Also, an article on dubbing in Hong Kong from the [[Source:Omni_Productions/SCMP\|South China Morning Post]] mentioning Omni Productions, but it might not strictly apply to the company as it was when it dubbed TF if the above comments are of any indication... --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 10:43, 15 January 2012 (EST)

	== Related vid ==		== Related vid ==

Nightmare Crusher: /* Corrections + More Dubber Info */

2019-11-23T14:30:17Z

Corrections + More Dubber Info

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	[[User:Nightmare Crusher\|Nightmare Crusher]]		[[User:Nightmare Crusher\|Nightmare Crusher]]
	:: You're doing Primus's work son. [[User:Energizer\|Energizer]] ([[User talk:Energizer\|talk]]) 18:40, 18 August 2018 (EDT)		:: You're doing Primus's work son. [[User:Energizer\|Energizer]] ([[User talk:Energizer\|talk]]) 18:40, 18 August 2018 (EDT)


			Hi, I'm back again. I've now seen Masterforce and Victory's dubs in their entirety. I've come to say I was slightly wrong before. Turns out John Culkin and Pierre Tremblay are both in these dubs. The quick and dirty breakdown is basically that they're similar sounding, but John has a more distinct accent and Pierre is really raspy. Or, to put it another way, if it sounds like Headmasters Hot Rod it's John, if it sounds like Headmasters Optimus or Cyclonus it's Pierre. A decent way to learn their differences is to watch that episode of Victory where Leozack is disguised as Star Saber. John voices the real one, Pierre voices the fake.

			Also of note is that while the work is split between them for Headmasters and Victory only John is in Masterforce.

			Links

			Me talking about Masterforce dub + Comprehensive cast list.
			https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/forums/showpost.php?p=159469&postcount=1

			Me explaining the John vs Pierre thing in greater detail + Breakdown of most of who did what in Headmasters.
			https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/forums/showpost.php?p=160466&postcount=16

			My comprehensive Victory cast list.
			https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/forums/showpost.php?p=162235&postcount=1

			I'm not gonna impose my findings upon the wiki. If you trust me go ahead and use them. If you have any questions feel free to ask.

			[[User:Nightmare Crusher\|Nightmare Crusher]] ([[User talk:Nightmare Crusher\|talk]]) 9:29, 23 November 2019 (EST)

Energizer: /* Corrections + More Dubber Info */

2018-08-18T22:40:57Z

Corrections + More Dubber Info

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	[[User:Nightmare Crusher\|Nightmare Crusher]]		[[User:Nightmare Crusher\|Nightmare Crusher]]
			:: You're doing Primus's work son. [[User:Energizer\|Energizer]] ([[User talk:Energizer\|talk]]) 18:40, 18 August 2018 (EDT)

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	Is the Omni Productions really official? I thought they were bootleg. Does Tfwiki allow bootleg info? [[User:Tylerwu\|Tylerwu]] ([[User talk:Tylerwu\|talk]]) 22:55, 7 June 2021 (EDT)		Is the Omni Productions really official? I thought they were bootleg. Does Tfwiki allow bootleg info? [[User:Tylerwu\|Tylerwu]] ([[User talk:Tylerwu\|talk]]) 22:55, 7 June 2021 (EDT)
	:Surprisingly, yes, these are official, seeing how they've appeared on official DVDs and how Hasbro currently now owns the rights to these dubs outside of Japan.[[User:DDog\|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog\|talk]]) 23:28, 7 June 2021 (EDT)		:Surprisingly, yes, these are official, seeing how they've appeared on official DVDs and how Hasbro currently now owns the rights to these dubs outside of Japan.[[User:DDog\|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog\|talk]]) 23:28, 7 June 2021 (EDT)
			I can understand why people would think it is a bootleg. The dub was really bad and had a lot of wrong names. [[User:Bergen08\|Bergen08]] ([[User talk:Bergen08\|talk]]) 01:47, 8 June 2021 (EDT)