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Magnoburst: /* Catchphrase */

2024-02-12T16:57:50Z

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	Xenophobic?--[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 11:43, 12 February 2024 (EST)		Xenophobic?--[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 11:43, 12 February 2024 (EST)
	: "Burning justice" is a nonsense phrase created to make fun of common anime tropes in an era where the fandom was much more close-minded to Japanese media and treated it as inherently inferior to the western output. That's not the vibe we want to perpetuate; it's the whole reason the page was overhauled in the first place. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]])		: "Burning justice" is a nonsense phrase created to make fun of common anime tropes in an era where the fandom was much more close-minded to Japanese media and treated it as inherently inferior to the western output. That's not the vibe we want to perpetuate; it's the whole reason the page was overhauled in the first place. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]])
			bad take but ok.--[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 11:57, 12 February 2024 (EST)

Cyberlink420: /* Catchphrase */

2024-02-12T16:53:49Z

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	: Hard no on that one. Burning spirit is both more accurate and less xenophobic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 11:11, 12 February 2024 (EST)		: Hard no on that one. Burning spirit is both more accurate and less xenophobic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 11:11, 12 February 2024 (EST)
	Xenophobic?--[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 11:43, 12 February 2024 (EST)		Xenophobic?--[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 11:43, 12 February 2024 (EST)
			: "Burning justice" is a nonsense phrase created to make fun of common anime tropes in an era where the fandom was much more close-minded to Japanese media and treated it as inherently inferior to the western output. That's not the vibe we want to perpetuate; it's the whole reason the page was overhauled in the first place. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]])

Magnoburst: /* Catchphrase */

2024-02-12T16:43:43Z

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	I know '''BURNING SPRIT''' is more accurate to his Japanese dialogue but I really like '''BURNING JUSTICE'''. could we change it back on a couple captions? particularly the OG figure, The spychanger, and the Haslab. I totally understand if the answer is no, but it would be pretty cool. --[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 09:57, 12 February 2024 (EST)		I know '''BURNING SPRIT''' is more accurate to his Japanese dialogue but I really like '''BURNING JUSTICE'''. could we change it back on a couple captions? particularly the OG figure, The spychanger, and the Haslab. I totally understand if the answer is no, but it would be pretty cool. --[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 09:57, 12 February 2024 (EST)
	: Hard no on that one. Burning spirit is both more accurate and less xenophobic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 11:11, 12 February 2024 (EST)		: Hard no on that one. Burning spirit is both more accurate and less xenophobic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 11:11, 12 February 2024 (EST)
			Xenophobic?--[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 11:43, 12 February 2024 (EST)

Cyberlink420: /* Catchphrase */

2024-02-12T16:11:01Z

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	==Catchphrase==		==Catchphrase==
	I know '''BURNING SPRIT''' is more accurate to his Japanese dialogue but I really like '''BURNING JUSTICE'''. could we change it back on a couple captions? particularly the OG figure, The spychanger, and the Haslab. I totally understand if the answer is no, but it would be pretty cool. --[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 09:57, 12 February 2024 (EST)		I know '''BURNING SPRIT''' is more accurate to his Japanese dialogue but I really like '''BURNING JUSTICE'''. could we change it back on a couple captions? particularly the OG figure, The spychanger, and the Haslab. I totally understand if the answer is no, but it would be pretty cool. --[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 09:57, 12 February 2024 (EST)
			: Hard no on that one. Burning spirit is both more accurate and less xenophobic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 11:11, 12 February 2024 (EST)

Magnoburst: /* Catchphrase */

2024-02-12T14:59:18Z

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	==Catchphrase==		==Catchphrase==
	I know '''BURNING SPRIT''' is more accurate to his Japanese dialogue but I really like ~~burning justice~~. could we change it back on a couple captions? particularly the OG figure, The spychanger, and the Haslab. I totally understand if the answer is no, but it would be pretty cool. --[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 09:57, 12 February 2024 (EST)		I know '''BURNING SPRIT''' is more accurate to his Japanese dialogue but I really like '''BURNING JUSTICE'''. could we change it back on a couple captions? particularly the OG figure, The spychanger, and the Haslab. I totally understand if the answer is no, but it would be pretty cool. --[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 09:57, 12 February 2024 (EST)

Magnoburst at 14:58, 12 February 2024

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	While he does indeed have the split window of the Fuso, that's likely more due to the way he transforms, requiring the window to split to form his legs. Additionally, I think it's reasonable to think that, since the other three major new Autobot/Cybertron designs for this series were all spitting images of real-world vehicles (to the point where Dodge required the Viper logo to appear on RiD Side Burn's packaging), Convoy/Prime would be based upon an existing vehicle that would probably be pretty familiar to fans in Japan. (this is literally the first thing I've ever contributed to a Wiki so I apologize if I've done it wrong! I don't know what it says about me that I was this motivated to discuss what truck Fire Convoy turns into.) --[[User:Flash1087\|Flash1087]] 10:50, 20 Jan 2023 (UTC)		While he does indeed have the split window of the Fuso, that's likely more due to the way he transforms, requiring the window to split to form his legs. Additionally, I think it's reasonable to think that, since the other three major new Autobot/Cybertron designs for this series were all spitting images of real-world vehicles (to the point where Dodge required the Viper logo to appear on RiD Side Burn's packaging), Convoy/Prime would be based upon an existing vehicle that would probably be pretty familiar to fans in Japan. (this is literally the first thing I've ever contributed to a Wiki so I apologize if I've done it wrong! I don't know what it says about me that I was this motivated to discuss what truck Fire Convoy turns into.) --[[User:Flash1087\|Flash1087]] 10:50, 20 Jan 2023 (UTC)

			==Catchphrase==
			I know '''BURNING SPRIT''' is more accurate to his Japanese dialogue but I really like burning justice. could we change it back on a couple captions? particularly the OG figure, The spychanger, and the Haslab. I totally understand if the answer is no, but it would be pretty cool. --[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 09:57, 12 February 2024 (EST)

Magnoburst: /* Catchphrase */ moving this to the bottom of the page.

2024-02-12T14:58:07Z

Catchphrase: moving this to the bottom of the page.

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	Much as I dig the Universe incarnation coloration... I think we should probably use an "original" color picture. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 01:25, 12 September 2006 (UTC)		Much as I dig the Universe incarnation coloration... I think we should probably use an "original" color picture. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 01:25, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

	~~==Catchphrase==~~
	I know '''BURNING SPRIT''' is more accurate to his Japanese dialogue but I really like burning justice. could we change it back on a couple captions? particularly the OG figure, The spychanger, and the Haslab. I totally understand if the answer is no, but it would be pretty cool. --[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 09:57, 12 February 2024 (EST)

	==Universe RiD mini-Prime?==		==Universe RiD mini-Prime?==

Magnoburst: /* Catchphrase */

2024-02-12T14:57:04Z

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	==Catchphrase==		==Catchphrase==
	I know '''BURNING SPRIT''' is more accurate to his Japanese dialogue but I really like burning justice. could we change it back on a couple captions? particularly the OG figure, The spychanger, and the Haslab. I totally understand if the answer is no, but it would be pretty cool.		I know '''BURNING SPRIT''' is more accurate to his Japanese dialogue but I really like burning justice. could we change it back on a couple captions? particularly the OG figure, The spychanger, and the Haslab. I totally understand if the answer is no, but it would be pretty cool. --[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 09:57, 12 February 2024 (EST)

	==Universe RiD mini-Prime?==		==Universe RiD mini-Prime?==

Magnoburst at 14:56, 12 February 2024

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	Much as I dig the Universe incarnation coloration... I think we should probably use an "original" color picture. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 01:25, 12 September 2006 (UTC)		Much as I dig the Universe incarnation coloration... I think we should probably use an "original" color picture. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 01:25, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

			==Catchphrase==
			I know '''BURNING SPRIT''' is more accurate to his Japanese dialogue but I really like burning justice. could we change it back on a couple captions? particularly the OG figure, The spychanger, and the Haslab. I totally understand if the answer is no, but it would be pretty cool.

	==Universe RiD mini-Prime?==		==Universe RiD mini-Prime?==

Flash1087: /* Alt mode? */

2023-01-20T15:50:18Z

Alt mode?

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	Hi everyone! I'd like to open a (very friendly and loving!) discussion about Fire Convoy/RiD Prime's alt mode. The belief in some fan circles is that he turns into a late-90s Hino fire truck of some kind, likely the Aerial/Profia (https://www.globalpartnersjp.com/japanese-used-hino-profia-truck_16385.html). An ancient TFW2005 thread (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/someone-please-post-a-pic-link-of-the-real-life-rid-op-prime-japanese-firetruck.92208/) has a few images of a truck closer in color to Fire Convoy, but there's no specific information on the model (and the model name 'Brandlier' gets thrown around a lot, although any search for that term tends to largely bring up TF-related results, so it's hard to say for sure). This picture of a Hino ladder truck in Shinjuku is closer to Fire Convoy's color scheme, although no model is given: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2008-09-10-shinjuku-24CH1815.JPG		Hi everyone! I'd like to open a (very friendly and loving!) discussion about Fire Convoy/RiD Prime's alt mode. The belief in some fan circles is that he turns into a late-90s Hino fire truck of some kind, likely the Aerial/Profia (https://www.globalpartnersjp.com/japanese-used-hino-profia-truck_16385.html). An ancient TFW2005 thread (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/someone-please-post-a-pic-link-of-the-real-life-rid-op-prime-japanese-firetruck.92208/) has a few images of a truck closer in color to Fire Convoy, but there's no specific information on the model (and the model name 'Brandlier' gets thrown around a lot, although any search for that term tends to largely bring up TF-related results, so it's hard to say for sure). This picture of a Hino ladder truck in Shinjuku is closer to Fire Convoy's color scheme, although no model is given: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2008-09-10-shinjuku-24CH1815.JPG

	While he does indeed have the split window of the Fuso, that's likely more due to the way he transforms, requiring the window to split to form his legs. Additionally, I think it's reasonable to think that, since the other three major new Autobot/Cybertron designs for this series were all spitting images of real-world vehicles (to the point where Dodge required the Viper logo to appear on RiD Side Burn's packaging), Convoy/Prime would be based upon an existing vehicle that would probably be pretty familiar to fans in Japan. (this is literally the first thing I've ever contributed to a Wiki so I apologize if I've done it wrong! I don't know what it says about me that I was this motivated to discuss what truck Fire Convoy turns into.)		While he does indeed have the split window of the Fuso, that's likely more due to the way he transforms, requiring the window to split to form his legs. Additionally, I think it's reasonable to think that, since the other three major new Autobot/Cybertron designs for this series were all spitting images of real-world vehicles (to the point where Dodge required the Viper logo to appear on RiD Side Burn's packaging), Convoy/Prime would be based upon an existing vehicle that would probably be pretty familiar to fans in Japan. (this is literally the first thing I've ever contributed to a Wiki so I apologize if I've done it wrong! I don't know what it says about me that I was this motivated to discuss what truck Fire Convoy turns into.) --[[User:Flash1087\|Flash1087]] 10:50, 20 Jan 2023 (UTC)

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	Xenophobic?--[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 11:43, 12 February 2024 (EST)		Xenophobic?--[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 11:43, 12 February 2024 (EST)
	: "Burning justice" is a nonsense phrase created to make fun of common anime tropes in an era where the fandom was much more close-minded to Japanese media and treated it as inherently inferior to the western output. That's not the vibe we want to perpetuate; it's the whole reason the page was overhauled in the first place. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]])		: "Burning justice" is a nonsense phrase created to make fun of common anime tropes in an era where the fandom was much more close-minded to Japanese media and treated it as inherently inferior to the western output. That's not the vibe we want to perpetuate; it's the whole reason the page was overhauled in the first place. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]])
			bad take but ok.--[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 11:57, 12 February 2024 (EST)

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	: Hard no on that one. Burning spirit is both more accurate and less xenophobic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 11:11, 12 February 2024 (EST)		: Hard no on that one. Burning spirit is both more accurate and less xenophobic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 11:11, 12 February 2024 (EST)
	Xenophobic?--[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 11:43, 12 February 2024 (EST)		Xenophobic?--[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 11:43, 12 February 2024 (EST)
			: "Burning justice" is a nonsense phrase created to make fun of common anime tropes in an era where the fandom was much more close-minded to Japanese media and treated it as inherently inferior to the western output. That's not the vibe we want to perpetuate; it's the whole reason the page was overhauled in the first place. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]])

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	I know '''BURNING SPRIT''' is more accurate to his Japanese dialogue but I really like '''BURNING JUSTICE'''. could we change it back on a couple captions? particularly the OG figure, The spychanger, and the Haslab. I totally understand if the answer is no, but it would be pretty cool. --[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 09:57, 12 February 2024 (EST)		I know '''BURNING SPRIT''' is more accurate to his Japanese dialogue but I really like '''BURNING JUSTICE'''. could we change it back on a couple captions? particularly the OG figure, The spychanger, and the Haslab. I totally understand if the answer is no, but it would be pretty cool. --[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 09:57, 12 February 2024 (EST)
	: Hard no on that one. Burning spirit is both more accurate and less xenophobic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 11:11, 12 February 2024 (EST)		: Hard no on that one. Burning spirit is both more accurate and less xenophobic. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 11:11, 12 February 2024 (EST)
			Xenophobic?--[[User:Magnoburst\|Magnoburst]] ([[User talk:Magnoburst\|talk]]) 11:43, 12 February 2024 (EST)