Talk:Pilot (Part 1) - Revision history

https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3APilot_%28Part_1%29 Talk:Pilot (Part 1) - Revision history 2026-09-16T03:13:19Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pilot_(Part_1)&diff=1597144&oldid=prev CBT: /* Kaon Plaza */ new section 2022-03-07T00:39:47Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Kaon Plaza: </span> new section</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:39, 7 March 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l16">Line 16:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 16:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Bumblebee was talking about human civilians, not Transformer civilians. How is that relevant? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:12, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Bumblebee was talking about human civilians, not Transformer civilians. How is that relevant? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:12, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Can we just assume the guards are Autobots or label them however you feel but as long as they are there because they did appear [[User:SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Can we just assume the guards are Autobots or label them however you feel but as long as they are there because they did appear [[User:SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== Kaon Plaza ==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Are the statues of the Thirteen Primes or of Team Prime? One statue looks like Bulkhead and another looks like Smokescreen, but the rest really do look like the Thirteen. [[User:CBT|CBT]] ([[User talk:CBT|talk]]) 19:39, 6 March 2022 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

CBT https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pilot_(Part_1)&diff=966785&oldid=prev Abates at 04:43, 6 May 2015 2015-05-06T04:43:33Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 04:43, 6 May 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:My justification for saying she's an Autobot is that neutrals haven't been established as existing in this continuity. While the Docent doesn't have an Autobot symbol, neither does Fixit, and Hasbro Studio's own promotional material refers to him as an Autobot. Plus she is working in a building with a huge Autobot insignia on it. If we don't call her an Autobot, I think the most we can do is keep it vague and refer to her as a "Transformer" without any particular alignment mentioned. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:26, 25 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:My justification for saying she's an Autobot is that neutrals haven't been established as existing in this continuity. While the Docent doesn't have an Autobot symbol, neither does Fixit, and Hasbro Studio's own promotional material refers to him as an Autobot. Plus she is working in a building with a huge Autobot insignia on it. If we don't call her an Autobot, I think the most we can do is keep it vague and refer to her as a "Transformer" without any particular alignment mentioned. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:26, 25 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I see your point but why are the Guards not included, but are all the random bots Autobots or just NAILS or Neutrals or could be listed as Others right, with the Docent, I will see if there is a symbol but what to do with the guards.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I see your point but why are the Guards not included, but are all the random bots Autobots or just NAILS or Neutrals or could be listed as Others right, with the Docent, I will see if there is a symbol but what to do with the guards.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[User<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</ins>SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hey abates can you tell me where do the guards go. [[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hey abates can you tell me where do the guards go. [[User<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</ins>SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The guards would presumably be kept vague too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:12, 26 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The guards would presumably be kept vague too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:12, 26 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Are you not going to add them as Autobots, all 5 had Autobot Insignia's[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Are you not going to add them as Autobots, all 5 had Autobot Insignia's[[User<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</ins>SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Did they? I checked after the question was raised over the Docent, and didn't see any insignia. I'm not seeing any [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-robots-disguise-prime-discussion/1034836-rid-s01e01-02-episode-discussion-spoilers-post12257152.html here] for instance. I'll check that scene again when I have a moment, but if the guards are Autobots, I'd definitely count that as a point in favour of the Docent being an Autobot too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:47, 26 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Did they? I checked after the question was raised over the Docent, and didn't see any insignia. I'm not seeing any [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-robots-disguise-prime-discussion/1034836-rid-s01e01-02-episode-discussion-spoilers-post12257152.html here] for instance. I'll check that scene again when I have a moment, but if the guards are Autobots, I'd definitely count that as a point in favour of the Docent being an Autobot too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:47, 26 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>They did.[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>They did.[[User<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</ins>SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I rewatched the scene and I don't see an Autobot insignia on either of the guards. Can you point to a screencap showing them? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:32, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I rewatched the scene and I don't see an Autobot insignia on either of the guards. Can you point to a screencap showing them? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:32, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::If they are all Transformers working in a big Autobot base I don't think it's unreasonable to assume they are Autobots. Sideswipe is an Autobot and he's a criminal; presumably if there were a meaningful neutral faction on RID-era Cybertron, he'd be one. -[[User:LV|LV]] ([[User talk:LV|talk]]) 18:03, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::If they are all Transformers working in a big Autobot base I don't think it's unreasonable to assume they are Autobots. Sideswipe is an Autobot and he's a criminal; presumably if there were a meaningful neutral faction on RID-era Cybertron, he'd be one. -[[User:LV|LV]] ([[User talk:LV|talk]]) 18:03, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Odd I cannot find it anymore, so where do you put them, if it helps when Grimlock was going to attack Bee said "There are Civilians, no threat" you can list them as others with the Docent or list them all as Autobots[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Odd I cannot find it anymore, so where do you put them, if it helps when Grimlock was going to attack Bee said "There are Civilians, no threat" you can list them as others with the Docent or list them all as Autobots[[User<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</ins>SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Bumblebee was talking about human civilians, not Transformer civilians. How is that relevant? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:12, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Bumblebee was talking about human civilians, not Transformer civilians. How is that relevant? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:12, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Can we just assume the guards are Autobots or label them however you feel but as long as they are there because they did appear [[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Can we just assume the guards are Autobots or label them however you feel but as long as they are there because they did appear [[User<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</ins>SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> </table>

Abates https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pilot_(Part_1)&diff=948412&oldid=prev SeanTF1967 at 05:29, 28 February 2015 2015-02-28T05:29:06Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 05:29, 28 February 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l15">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Odd I cannot find it anymore, so where do you put them, if it helps when Grimlock was going to attack Bee said "There are Civilians, no threat" you can list them as others with the Docent or list them all as Autobots[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Odd I cannot find it anymore, so where do you put them, if it helps when Grimlock was going to attack Bee said "There are Civilians, no threat" you can list them as others with the Docent or list them all as Autobots[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Bumblebee was talking about human civilians, not Transformer civilians. How is that relevant? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:12, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Bumblebee was talking about human civilians, not Transformer civilians. How is that relevant? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:12, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Can we just assume the guards are Autobots or label them however you feel but as long as they are there because they did appear [<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">UserSeanTF1967</del>|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Can we just assume the guards are Autobots or label them however you feel but as long as they are there because they did appear [<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[User SeanTF1967</ins>|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> </table>

SeanTF1967 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pilot_(Part_1)&diff=948410&oldid=prev SeanTF1967 at 05:27, 28 February 2015 2015-02-28T05:27:46Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 05:27, 28 February 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l15">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Odd I cannot find it anymore, so where do you put them, if it helps when Grimlock was going to attack Bee said "There are Civilians, no threat" you can list them as others with the Docent or list them all as Autobots[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Odd I cannot find it anymore, so where do you put them, if it helps when Grimlock was going to attack Bee said "There are Civilians, no threat" you can list them as others with the Docent or list them all as Autobots[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Bumblebee was talking about human civilians, not Transformer civilians. How is that relevant? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:12, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Bumblebee was talking about human civilians, not Transformer civilians. How is that relevant? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:12, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Can we just assume the guards are Autobots or label them however you feel but as long as they are there because they did appear [<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">User SeanTF1967</del>|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Can we just assume the guards are Autobots or label them however you feel but as long as they are there because they did appear [<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">UserSeanTF1967</ins>|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> </table>

SeanTF1967 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pilot_(Part_1)&diff=948408&oldid=prev SeanTF1967 at 05:26, 28 February 2015 2015-02-28T05:26:47Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 05:26, 28 February 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l15">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Odd I cannot find it anymore, so where do you put them, if it helps when Grimlock was going to attack Bee said "There are Civilians, no threat" you can list them as others with the Docent or list them all as Autobots[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Odd I cannot find it anymore, so where do you put them, if it helps when Grimlock was going to attack Bee said "There are Civilians, no threat" you can list them as others with the Docent or list them all as Autobots[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Bumblebee was talking about human civilians, not Transformer civilians. How is that relevant? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:12, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Bumblebee was talking about human civilians, not Transformer civilians. How is that relevant? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:12, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Can we just assume the guards are Autobots or label them however you feel but as long as they are there because they did appear [User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

SeanTF1967 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pilot_(Part_1)&diff=948354&oldid=prev Abates at 00:12, 28 February 2015 2015-02-28T00:12:55Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:12, 28 February 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::If they are all Transformers working in a big Autobot base I don't think it's unreasonable to assume they are Autobots. Sideswipe is an Autobot and he's a criminal; presumably if there were a meaningful neutral faction on RID-era Cybertron, he'd be one. -[[User:LV|LV]] ([[User talk:LV|talk]]) 18:03, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::If they are all Transformers working in a big Autobot base I don't think it's unreasonable to assume they are Autobots. Sideswipe is an Autobot and he's a criminal; presumably if there were a meaningful neutral faction on RID-era Cybertron, he'd be one. -[[User:LV|LV]] ([[User talk:LV|talk]]) 18:03, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Odd I cannot find it anymore, so where do you put them, if it helps when Grimlock was going to attack Bee said "There are Civilians, no threat" you can list them as others with the Docent or list them all as Autobots[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Odd I cannot find it anymore, so where do you put them, if it helps when Grimlock was going to attack Bee said "There are Civilians, no threat" you can list them as others with the Docent or list them all as Autobots[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Bumblebee was talking about human civilians, not Transformer civilians. How is that relevant? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:12, 27 February 2015 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Abates https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pilot_(Part_1)&diff=948339&oldid=prev SeanTF1967 at 23:05, 27 February 2015 2015-02-27T23:05:58Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:05, 27 February 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l13">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I rewatched the scene and I don't see an Autobot insignia on either of the guards. Can you point to a screencap showing them? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:32, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I rewatched the scene and I don't see an Autobot insignia on either of the guards. Can you point to a screencap showing them? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:32, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::If they are all Transformers working in a big Autobot base I don't think it's unreasonable to assume they are Autobots. Sideswipe is an Autobot and he's a criminal; presumably if there were a meaningful neutral faction on RID-era Cybertron, he'd be one. -[[User:LV|LV]] ([[User talk:LV|talk]]) 18:03, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::If they are all Transformers working in a big Autobot base I don't think it's unreasonable to assume they are Autobots. Sideswipe is an Autobot and he's a criminal; presumably if there were a meaningful neutral faction on RID-era Cybertron, he'd be one. -[[User:LV|LV]] ([[User talk:LV|talk]]) 18:03, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Odd I cannot find it anymore, so where do you put them, if it helps when Grimlock was going to attack Bee said "There are Civilians, no threat" you can list them as others with the Docent or list them all as Autobots[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

SeanTF1967 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pilot_(Part_1)&diff=948338&oldid=prev LV at 23:03, 27 February 2015 2015-02-27T23:03:37Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:03, 27 February 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l12">Line 12:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 12:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>They did.[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>They did.[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I rewatched the scene and I don't see an Autobot insignia on either of the guards. Can you point to a screencap showing them? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:32, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I rewatched the scene and I don't see an Autobot insignia on either of the guards. Can you point to a screencap showing them? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:32, 27 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::If they are all Transformers working in a big Autobot base I don't think it's unreasonable to assume they are Autobots. Sideswipe is an Autobot and he's a criminal; presumably if there were a meaningful neutral faction on RID-era Cybertron, he'd be one. -[[User:LV|LV]] ([[User talk:LV|talk]]) 18:03, 27 February 2015 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

LV https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pilot_(Part_1)&diff=948302&oldid=prev Abates at 20:32, 27 February 2015 2015-02-27T20:32:23Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:32, 27 February 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l11">Line 11:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Did they? I checked after the question was raised over the Docent, and didn't see any insignia. I'm not seeing any [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-robots-disguise-prime-discussion/1034836-rid-s01e01-02-episode-discussion-spoilers-post12257152.html here] for instance. I'll check that scene again when I have a moment, but if the guards are Autobots, I'd definitely count that as a point in favour of the Docent being an Autobot too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:47, 26 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Did they? I checked after the question was raised over the Docent, and didn't see any insignia. I'm not seeing any [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-robots-disguise-prime-discussion/1034836-rid-s01e01-02-episode-discussion-spoilers-post12257152.html here] for instance. I'll check that scene again when I have a moment, but if the guards are Autobots, I'd definitely count that as a point in favour of the Docent being an Autobot too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:47, 26 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>They did.[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>They did.[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:I rewatched the scene and I don't see an Autobot insignia on either of the guards. Can you point to a screencap showing them? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:32, 27 February 2015 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Abates https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pilot_(Part_1)&diff=948243&oldid=prev SeanTF1967 at 13:06, 27 February 2015 2015-02-27T13:06:06Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 13:06, 27 February 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l10">Line 10:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 10:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Are you not going to add them as Autobots, all 5 had Autobot Insignia's[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Are you not going to add them as Autobots, all 5 had Autobot Insignia's[[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Did they? I checked after the question was raised over the Docent, and didn't see any insignia. I'm not seeing any [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-robots-disguise-prime-discussion/1034836-rid-s01e01-02-episode-discussion-spoilers-post12257152.html here] for instance. I'll check that scene again when I have a moment, but if the guards are Autobots, I'd definitely count that as a point in favour of the Docent being an Autobot too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:47, 26 February 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Did they? I checked after the question was raised over the Docent, and didn't see any insignia. I'm not seeing any [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-robots-disguise-prime-discussion/1034836-rid-s01e01-02-episode-discussion-spoilers-post12257152.html here] for instance. I'll check that scene again when I have a moment, but if the guards are Autobots, I'd definitely count that as a point in favour of the Docent being an Autobot too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:47, 26 February 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>They did.[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>They did.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[</ins>[User SeanTF1967|SeanTF1967]]</div></td></tr> </table>

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