Talk:Rainmaker - Revision history

Mattihase: /* Seige boxset occasionally packaged out of order */ new section

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Seige boxset occasionally packaged out of order: new section

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	Can I a caption for the Siege toys? I wanted to put in a joke. {{unsigned\|Skywarp Prime}}		Can I a caption for the Siege toys? I wanted to put in a joke. {{unsigned\|Skywarp Prime}}
	:You need to focus more on making substantive edits before considering adding jokes. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 08:59, 9 September 2019 (EDT)		:You need to focus more on making substantive edits before considering adding jokes. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 08:59, 9 September 2019 (EDT)

			== Seige boxset occasionally packaged out of order ==

			My instance of the set came with Acid Storm and Nova Storm swapped around in the packaging and searching around on google images you can find a couple other instances of this mispacking on listings, as well as when they put it on display at SDCC2019 https://news.tfw2005.com/2019/07/19/san-diego-comic-con-2019-siege-rainmakers-3-pack-micromaster-10-pack-images-392454

			Is this evidently not unique packaging error worth mentioning in the section on it?

Cyberlink420: /* Siege Caption */

2019-09-09T13:02:17Z

Siege Caption

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	Can I a caption for the Siege toys? I wanted to put in a joke.		Can I a caption for the Siege toys? I wanted to put in a joke. {{unsigned\|Skywarp Prime}}
	:You need to focus more on making substantive edits before considering adding jokes. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 08:59, 9 September 2019 (EDT)		:You need to focus more on making substantive edits before considering adding jokes. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 08:59, 9 September 2019 (EDT)

Khajidha: /* Siege Caption */

2019-09-09T12:59:59Z

Siege Caption

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	Can I a caption for the Siege toys? I wanted to put in a joke.		Can I a caption for the Siege toys? I wanted to put in a joke.
			:You need to focus more on making substantive edits before considering adding jokes. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 08:59, 9 September 2019 (EDT)

Skywarp Prime: /* Siege Caption */ new section

2019-09-09T01:13:29Z

Siege Caption: new section

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	::::They don't ''have'' to have a correct name. They can just be 'those three guys from MTMTE Pt 1, just like they have been for the last 29 years. This is just my opinion, but taking something where ''the people who actually made it'' have said "no, that shouldn't have been there, it's wrong" and treating it as fact and redefining a bunch of characters because of it seems ''incredibly'' silly. By all means note the error here, but we shouldn't be listing the 'welcoming committee' as new Rainmakers, IMO. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 14:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		::::They don't ''have'' to have a correct name. They can just be 'those three guys from MTMTE Pt 1, just like they have been for the last 29 years. This is just my opinion, but taking something where ''the people who actually made it'' have said "no, that shouldn't have been there, it's wrong" and treating it as fact and redefining a bunch of characters because of it seems ''incredibly'' silly. By all means note the error here, but we shouldn't be listing the 'welcoming committee' as new Rainmakers, IMO. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 14:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
	:::::We'll need to note this on the individual pages and the BotCon 2013 page as well.--[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 18:30, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		:::::We'll need to note this on the individual pages and the BotCon 2013 page as well.--[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 18:30, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

			== Siege Caption ==

			Can I a caption for the Siege toys? I wanted to put in a joke.

Khajidha at 22:30, 5 September 2013

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	::::I have no issue with declaring it an all out mistake, but it definitely should still be mentioned on this page. People who don't know will see the term on those toys and look it up, coming to this page. The link on the Botcon 2013 page actually takes you here which is how I noticed this.[[User:Riddlerj\|Riddlerj]] 14:30, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		::::I have no issue with declaring it an all out mistake, but it definitely should still be mentioned on this page. People who don't know will see the term on those toys and look it up, coming to this page. The link on the Botcon 2013 page actually takes you here which is how I noticed this.[[User:Riddlerj\|Riddlerj]] 14:30, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
	::::They don't ''have'' to have a correct name. They can just be 'those three guys from MTMTE Pt 1, just like they have been for the last 29 years. This is just my opinion, but taking something where ''the people who actually made it'' have said "no, that shouldn't have been there, it's wrong" and treating it as fact and redefining a bunch of characters because of it seems ''incredibly'' silly. By all means note the error here, but we shouldn't be listing the 'welcoming committee' as new Rainmakers, IMO. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 14:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		::::They don't ''have'' to have a correct name. They can just be 'those three guys from MTMTE Pt 1, just like they have been for the last 29 years. This is just my opinion, but taking something where ''the people who actually made it'' have said "no, that shouldn't have been there, it's wrong" and treating it as fact and redefining a bunch of characters because of it seems ''incredibly'' silly. By all means note the error here, but we shouldn't be listing the 'welcoming committee' as new Rainmakers, IMO. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 14:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
			:::::We'll need to note this on the individual pages and the BotCon 2013 page as well.--[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 18:30, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

Jalaguy at 18:32, 5 September 2013

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	:::Well then, did either the comic or a Funpub statement say what the team ''should'' be called? (IDK, haven't read it yet) All 3 of their pages still call their toys the "Rainmaker Set", so even adding the note "They're only called Rainmakers by mistake" won't dislodge that from people's minds. If Minerva hadn't been named anywhere other than here packaging, her name ''would'' effectively be Minelba, right? And even if authorial intent does give us a name, would it be official enough to trump "Rainmakers" by this wiki's standards? [[User:Bumblevivisector\|Bumblevivisector]] 14:09, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		:::Well then, did either the comic or a Funpub statement say what the team ''should'' be called? (IDK, haven't read it yet) All 3 of their pages still call their toys the "Rainmaker Set", so even adding the note "They're only called Rainmakers by mistake" won't dislodge that from people's minds. If Minerva hadn't been named anywhere other than here packaging, her name ''would'' effectively be Minelba, right? And even if authorial intent does give us a name, would it be official enough to trump "Rainmakers" by this wiki's standards? [[User:Bumblevivisector\|Bumblevivisector]] 14:09, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
	::::I have no issue with declaring it an all out mistake, but it definitely should still be mentioned on this page. People who don't know will see the term on those toys and look it up, coming to this page. The link on the Botcon 2013 page actually takes you here which is how I noticed this.[[User:Riddlerj\|Riddlerj]] 14:30, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		::::I have no issue with declaring it an all out mistake, but it definitely should still be mentioned on this page. People who don't know will see the term on those toys and look it up, coming to this page. The link on the Botcon 2013 page actually takes you here which is how I noticed this.[[User:Riddlerj\|Riddlerj]] 14:30, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
			::::They don't ''have'' to have a correct name. They can just be 'those three guys from MTMTE Pt 1, just like they have been for the last 29 years. This is just my opinion, but taking something where ''the people who actually made it'' have said "no, that shouldn't have been there, it's wrong" and treating it as fact and redefining a bunch of characters because of it seems ''incredibly'' silly. By all means note the error here, but we shouldn't be listing the 'welcoming committee' as new Rainmakers, IMO. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 14:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

Riddlerj at 18:30, 5 September 2013

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	::There's no reason for us to take what has been explicitly stated as an error by the people who made it as a fact. I mean, Minerva's packaging says Minelba on it, but we don't blindly say "oh yes, that must be her proper name". [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 13:46, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		::There's no reason for us to take what has been explicitly stated as an error by the people who made it as a fact. I mean, Minerva's packaging says Minelba on it, but we don't blindly say "oh yes, that must be her proper name". [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 13:46, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
	:::Well then, did either the comic or a Funpub statement say what the team ''should'' be called? (IDK, haven't read it yet) All 3 of their pages still call their toys the "Rainmaker Set", so even adding the note "They're only called Rainmakers by mistake" won't dislodge that from people's minds. If Minerva hadn't been named anywhere other than here packaging, her name ''would'' effectively be Minelba, right? And even if authorial intent does give us a name, would it be official enough to trump "Rainmakers" by this wiki's standards? [[User:Bumblevivisector\|Bumblevivisector]] 14:09, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		:::Well then, did either the comic or a Funpub statement say what the team ''should'' be called? (IDK, haven't read it yet) All 3 of their pages still call their toys the "Rainmaker Set", so even adding the note "They're only called Rainmakers by mistake" won't dislodge that from people's minds. If Minerva hadn't been named anywhere other than here packaging, her name ''would'' effectively be Minelba, right? And even if authorial intent does give us a name, would it be official enough to trump "Rainmakers" by this wiki's standards? [[User:Bumblevivisector\|Bumblevivisector]] 14:09, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
			::::I have no issue with declaring it an all out mistake, but it definitely should still be mentioned on this page. People who don't know will see the term on those toys and look it up, coming to this page. The link on the Botcon 2013 page actually takes you here which is how I noticed this.[[User:Riddlerj\|Riddlerj]] 14:30, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

Bumblevivisector: Applying dash of semiotic exclusion principle to argument

2013-09-05T18:09:40Z

Applying dash of semiotic exclusion principle to argument

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	:The package says what it says. The BotCon guys aren't the D&C guys, but they are now Rainmakers. You could even argue that this makes Rainmaker the term for non-Conehead Seekers, but I wouldn't take it that far. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		:The package says what it says. The BotCon guys aren't the D&C guys, but they are now Rainmakers. You could even argue that this makes Rainmaker the term for non-Conehead Seekers, but I wouldn't take it that far. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
	::There's no reason for us to take what has been explicitly stated as an error by the people who made it as a fact. I mean, Minerva's packaging says Minelba on it, but we don't blindly say "oh yes, that must be her proper name". [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 13:46, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		::There's no reason for us to take what has been explicitly stated as an error by the people who made it as a fact. I mean, Minerva's packaging says Minelba on it, but we don't blindly say "oh yes, that must be her proper name". [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 13:46, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
			:::Well then, did either the comic or a Funpub statement say what the team ''should'' be called? (IDK, haven't read it yet) All 3 of their pages still call their toys the "Rainmaker Set", so even adding the note "They're only called Rainmakers by mistake" won't dislodge that from people's minds. If Minerva hadn't been named anywhere other than here packaging, her name ''would'' effectively be Minelba, right? And even if authorial intent does give us a name, would it be official enough to trump "Rainmakers" by this wiki's standards? [[User:Bumblevivisector\|Bumblevivisector]] 14:09, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

Jalaguy at 17:46, 5 September 2013

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	:The "Rainmakers" description on the toy bag and in the program was an error. They are not Rainmakers. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 11:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		:The "Rainmakers" description on the toy bag and in the program was an error. They are not Rainmakers. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 11:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
	:The package says what it says. The BotCon guys aren't the D&C guys, but they are now Rainmakers. You could even argue that this makes Rainmaker the term for non-Conehead Seekers, but I wouldn't take it that far. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		:The package says what it says. The BotCon guys aren't the D&C guys, but they are now Rainmakers. You could even argue that this makes Rainmaker the term for non-Conehead Seekers, but I wouldn't take it that far. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
			::There's no reason for us to take what has been explicitly stated as an error by the people who made it as a fact. I mean, Minerva's packaging says Minelba on it, but we don't blindly say "oh yes, that must be her proper name". [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 13:46, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

Khajidha at 15:36, 5 September 2013

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	:We've had, IIRC, comment from Fun Pub people that the pack being named 'Rainmakers' wasn't ever the intent and it wound up inadvertently happening somehow. So the people who made the set never intended to make them part of this existing team, for what it's worth... [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 11:25, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		:We've had, IIRC, comment from Fun Pub people that the pack being named 'Rainmakers' wasn't ever the intent and it wound up inadvertently happening somehow. So the people who made the set never intended to make them part of this existing team, for what it's worth... [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 11:25, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
	:The "Rainmakers" description on the toy bag and in the program was an error. They are not Rainmakers. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 11:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		:The "Rainmakers" description on the toy bag and in the program was an error. They are not Rainmakers. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 11:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
			:The package says what it says. The BotCon guys aren't the D&C guys, but they are now Rainmakers. You could even argue that this makes Rainmaker the term for non-Conehead Seekers, but I wouldn't take it that far. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

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	::::I have no issue with declaring it an all out mistake, but it definitely should still be mentioned on this page. People who don't know will see the term on those toys and look it up, coming to this page. The link on the Botcon 2013 page actually takes you here which is how I noticed this.[[User:Riddlerj\|Riddlerj]] 14:30, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		::::I have no issue with declaring it an all out mistake, but it definitely should still be mentioned on this page. People who don't know will see the term on those toys and look it up, coming to this page. The link on the Botcon 2013 page actually takes you here which is how I noticed this.[[User:Riddlerj\|Riddlerj]] 14:30, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
	::::They don't ''have'' to have a correct name. They can just be 'those three guys from MTMTE Pt 1, just like they have been for the last 29 years. This is just my opinion, but taking something where ''the people who actually made it'' have said "no, that shouldn't have been there, it's wrong" and treating it as fact and redefining a bunch of characters because of it seems ''incredibly'' silly. By all means note the error here, but we shouldn't be listing the 'welcoming committee' as new Rainmakers, IMO. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 14:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		::::They don't ''have'' to have a correct name. They can just be 'those three guys from MTMTE Pt 1, just like they have been for the last 29 years. This is just my opinion, but taking something where ''the people who actually made it'' have said "no, that shouldn't have been there, it's wrong" and treating it as fact and redefining a bunch of characters because of it seems ''incredibly'' silly. By all means note the error here, but we shouldn't be listing the 'welcoming committee' as new Rainmakers, IMO. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 14:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
			:::::We'll need to note this on the individual pages and the BotCon 2013 page as well.--[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 18:30, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

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	:::Well then, did either the comic or a Funpub statement say what the team ''should'' be called? (IDK, haven't read it yet) All 3 of their pages still call their toys the "Rainmaker Set", so even adding the note "They're only called Rainmakers by mistake" won't dislodge that from people's minds. If Minerva hadn't been named anywhere other than here packaging, her name ''would'' effectively be Minelba, right? And even if authorial intent does give us a name, would it be official enough to trump "Rainmakers" by this wiki's standards? [[User:Bumblevivisector\|Bumblevivisector]] 14:09, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		:::Well then, did either the comic or a Funpub statement say what the team ''should'' be called? (IDK, haven't read it yet) All 3 of their pages still call their toys the "Rainmaker Set", so even adding the note "They're only called Rainmakers by mistake" won't dislodge that from people's minds. If Minerva hadn't been named anywhere other than here packaging, her name ''would'' effectively be Minelba, right? And even if authorial intent does give us a name, would it be official enough to trump "Rainmakers" by this wiki's standards? [[User:Bumblevivisector\|Bumblevivisector]] 14:09, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
	::::I have no issue with declaring it an all out mistake, but it definitely should still be mentioned on this page. People who don't know will see the term on those toys and look it up, coming to this page. The link on the Botcon 2013 page actually takes you here which is how I noticed this.[[User:Riddlerj\|Riddlerj]] 14:30, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		::::I have no issue with declaring it an all out mistake, but it definitely should still be mentioned on this page. People who don't know will see the term on those toys and look it up, coming to this page. The link on the Botcon 2013 page actually takes you here which is how I noticed this.[[User:Riddlerj\|Riddlerj]] 14:30, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
			::::They don't ''have'' to have a correct name. They can just be 'those three guys from MTMTE Pt 1, just like they have been for the last 29 years. This is just my opinion, but taking something where ''the people who actually made it'' have said "no, that shouldn't have been there, it's wrong" and treating it as fact and redefining a bunch of characters because of it seems ''incredibly'' silly. By all means note the error here, but we shouldn't be listing the 'welcoming committee' as new Rainmakers, IMO. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 14:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

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	::There's no reason for us to take what has been explicitly stated as an error by the people who made it as a fact. I mean, Minerva's packaging says Minelba on it, but we don't blindly say "oh yes, that must be her proper name". [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 13:46, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		::There's no reason for us to take what has been explicitly stated as an error by the people who made it as a fact. I mean, Minerva's packaging says Minelba on it, but we don't blindly say "oh yes, that must be her proper name". [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 13:46, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
	:::Well then, did either the comic or a Funpub statement say what the team ''should'' be called? (IDK, haven't read it yet) All 3 of their pages still call their toys the "Rainmaker Set", so even adding the note "They're only called Rainmakers by mistake" won't dislodge that from people's minds. If Minerva hadn't been named anywhere other than here packaging, her name ''would'' effectively be Minelba, right? And even if authorial intent does give us a name, would it be official enough to trump "Rainmakers" by this wiki's standards? [[User:Bumblevivisector\|Bumblevivisector]] 14:09, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		:::Well then, did either the comic or a Funpub statement say what the team ''should'' be called? (IDK, haven't read it yet) All 3 of their pages still call their toys the "Rainmaker Set", so even adding the note "They're only called Rainmakers by mistake" won't dislodge that from people's minds. If Minerva hadn't been named anywhere other than here packaging, her name ''would'' effectively be Minelba, right? And even if authorial intent does give us a name, would it be official enough to trump "Rainmakers" by this wiki's standards? [[User:Bumblevivisector\|Bumblevivisector]] 14:09, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
			::::I have no issue with declaring it an all out mistake, but it definitely should still be mentioned on this page. People who don't know will see the term on those toys and look it up, coming to this page. The link on the Botcon 2013 page actually takes you here which is how I noticed this.[[User:Riddlerj\|Riddlerj]] 14:30, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

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	:The package says what it says. The BotCon guys aren't the D&C guys, but they are now Rainmakers. You could even argue that this makes Rainmaker the term for non-Conehead Seekers, but I wouldn't take it that far. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		:The package says what it says. The BotCon guys aren't the D&C guys, but they are now Rainmakers. You could even argue that this makes Rainmaker the term for non-Conehead Seekers, but I wouldn't take it that far. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
	::There's no reason for us to take what has been explicitly stated as an error by the people who made it as a fact. I mean, Minerva's packaging says Minelba on it, but we don't blindly say "oh yes, that must be her proper name". [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 13:46, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		::There's no reason for us to take what has been explicitly stated as an error by the people who made it as a fact. I mean, Minerva's packaging says Minelba on it, but we don't blindly say "oh yes, that must be her proper name". [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 13:46, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
			:::Well then, did either the comic or a Funpub statement say what the team ''should'' be called? (IDK, haven't read it yet) All 3 of their pages still call their toys the "Rainmaker Set", so even adding the note "They're only called Rainmakers by mistake" won't dislodge that from people's minds. If Minerva hadn't been named anywhere other than here packaging, her name ''would'' effectively be Minelba, right? And even if authorial intent does give us a name, would it be official enough to trump "Rainmakers" by this wiki's standards? [[User:Bumblevivisector\|Bumblevivisector]] 14:09, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

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	:The "Rainmakers" description on the toy bag and in the program was an error. They are not Rainmakers. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 11:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		:The "Rainmakers" description on the toy bag and in the program was an error. They are not Rainmakers. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 11:32, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
	:The package says what it says. The BotCon guys aren't the D&C guys, but they are now Rainmakers. You could even argue that this makes Rainmaker the term for non-Conehead Seekers, but I wouldn't take it that far. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 5 September 2013 (EDT)		:The package says what it says. The BotCon guys aren't the D&C guys, but they are now Rainmakers. You could even argue that this makes Rainmaker the term for non-Conehead Seekers, but I wouldn't take it that far. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
			::There's no reason for us to take what has been explicitly stated as an error by the people who made it as a fact. I mean, Minerva's packaging says Minelba on it, but we don't blindly say "oh yes, that must be her proper name". [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 13:46, 5 September 2013 (EDT)