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Khajidha: /* Suicide is painful */

2009-11-27T04:00:10Z

Suicide is painful

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	::That was my point, DM's change made the sentence make sense. Suicide being less painless means that it hurts worse than the treatment would, so that going to see Ratchet would be preferable. Suicide being less painful than Ratchet would mean that the patient would rather kill himself than be treated by Ratchet. The MASH reference comes through in either form (at least to me), but the contrast between dying and being treated by Ratchet is only clear in the "painful" version. Thankfully, Rosi's change has obviated the need for any more discussion of this. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:04, 25 November 2009 (EST)		::That was my point, DM's change made the sentence make sense. Suicide being less painless means that it hurts worse than the treatment would, so that going to see Ratchet would be preferable. Suicide being less painful than Ratchet would mean that the patient would rather kill himself than be treated by Ratchet. The MASH reference comes through in either form (at least to me), but the contrast between dying and being treated by Ratchet is only clear in the "painful" version. Thankfully, Rosi's change has obviated the need for any more discussion of this. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:04, 25 November 2009 (EST)
	:::Ah, OK. It just sounded like you thought the original was the version that "made sense" and I changed it myself to the version that didn't, so I figured I'd clarify. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 14:49, 25 November 2009 (EST)		:::Ah, OK. It just sounded like you thought the original was the version that "made sense" and I changed it myself to the version that didn't, so I figured I'd clarify. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 14:49, 25 November 2009 (EST)
			::::No problem, sometimes my verbosity seems to get in the way of clarity. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 23:00, 26 November 2009 (EST)

Jeysie at 19:49, 25 November 2009

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	:(Of course, Rosicrucian has gone and found a way to cleverly compromise around the matter, as is his wont.) --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 22:39, 24 November 2009 (EST)		:(Of course, Rosicrucian has gone and found a way to cleverly compromise around the matter, as is his wont.) --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 22:39, 24 November 2009 (EST)
	::That was my point, DM's change made the sentence make sense. Suicide being less painless means that it hurts worse than the treatment would, so that going to see Ratchet would be preferable. Suicide being less painful than Ratchet would mean that the patient would rather kill himself than be treated by Ratchet. The MASH reference comes through in either form (at least to me), but the contrast between dying and being treated by Ratchet is only clear in the "painful" version. Thankfully, Rosi's change has obviated the need for any more discussion of this. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:04, 25 November 2009 (EST)		::That was my point, DM's change made the sentence make sense. Suicide being less painless means that it hurts worse than the treatment would, so that going to see Ratchet would be preferable. Suicide being less painful than Ratchet would mean that the patient would rather kill himself than be treated by Ratchet. The MASH reference comes through in either form (at least to me), but the contrast between dying and being treated by Ratchet is only clear in the "painful" version. Thankfully, Rosi's change has obviated the need for any more discussion of this. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:04, 25 November 2009 (EST)
			:::Ah, OK. It just sounded like you thought the original was the version that "made sense" and I changed it myself to the version that didn't, so I figured I'd clarify. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 14:49, 25 November 2009 (EST)

Khajidha: /* Suicide is painful */

2009-11-25T16:04:57Z

Suicide is painful

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	:So, uh, basically, don't look at me if you don't like the way the caption was worded, as I was just restoring its original state.		:So, uh, basically, don't look at me if you don't like the way the caption was worded, as I was just restoring its original state.
	:(Of course, Rosicrucian has gone and found a way to cleverly compromise around the matter, as is his wont.) --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 22:39, 24 November 2009 (EST)		:(Of course, Rosicrucian has gone and found a way to cleverly compromise around the matter, as is his wont.) --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 22:39, 24 November 2009 (EST)
			::That was my point, DM's change made the sentence make sense. Suicide being less painless means that it hurts worse than the treatment would, so that going to see Ratchet would be preferable. Suicide being less painful than Ratchet would mean that the patient would rather kill himself than be treated by Ratchet. The MASH reference comes through in either form (at least to me), but the contrast between dying and being treated by Ratchet is only clear in the "painful" version. Thankfully, Rosi's change has obviated the need for any more discussion of this. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:04, 25 November 2009 (EST)

Jeysie at 03:39, 25 November 2009

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	:Dude. The Shattered Glass MASH* theme '''is''' ''Suicide is Painful''. Try to keep up! -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:18, 24 November 2009 (EST)		:Dude. The Shattered Glass MASH* theme '''is''' ''Suicide is Painful''. Try to keep up! -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:18, 24 November 2009 (EST)

			:Actually, the caption ''originally'' said "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painless than this guy". Dead Metal changed it to "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painful than this guy", and I reverted his change because I figured that whoever the original caption writer was, had probably meant to make a MAS*H reference.
			:So, uh, basically, don't look at me if you don't like the way the caption was worded, as I was just restoring its original state.
			:(Of course, Rosicrucian has gone and found a way to cleverly compromise around the matter, as is his wont.) --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 22:39, 24 November 2009 (EST)

Derik at 18:18, 24 November 2009

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	Jeysie had changed the caption of the main picture from "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painful than this guy" to "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painless than this guy" on the grounds that it was a "Suicide is Painless (MASH theme)" reference. While I thing Jeysie was right on the ref, the resulting statement didn't convey the proper meaning. "Less painless" would mean that suicide hurts a lot more than going to see Ratchet, which is the exact opposite of what was intended (Aren't double negatives fun?). Perhaps a better way of phrasing this caption can be found? [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:34, 24 November 2009 (EST) (Had misremembered who changed it)[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:35, 24 November 2009 (EST)		Jeysie had changed the caption of the main picture from "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painful than this guy" to "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painless than this guy" on the grounds that it was a "Suicide is Painless (MASH theme)" reference. While I thing Jeysie was right on the ref, the resulting statement didn't convey the proper meaning. "Less painless" would mean that suicide hurts a lot more than going to see Ratchet, which is the exact opposite of what was intended (Aren't double negatives fun?). Perhaps a better way of phrasing this caption can be found? [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:34, 24 November 2009 (EST) (Had misremembered who changed it)[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:35, 24 November 2009 (EST)
	:''facepalm'' --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:13, 24 November 2009 (EST)		:''facepalm'' --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:13, 24 November 2009 (EST)

			:Dude. The Shattered Glass MASH* theme '''is''' ''Suicide is Painful''. Try to keep up! -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:18, 24 November 2009 (EST)

ItsWalky: /* Suicide is painful */

2009-11-24T18:13:14Z

Suicide is painful

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	Jeysie had changed the caption of the main picture from "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painful than this guy" to "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painless than this guy" on the grounds that it was a "Suicide is Painless (MASH theme)" reference. While I thing Jeysie was right on the ref, the resulting statement didn't convey the proper meaning. "Less painless" would mean that suicide hurts a lot more than going to see Ratchet, which is the exact opposite of what was intended (Aren't double negatives fun?). Perhaps a better way of phrasing this caption can be found? [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:34, 24 November 2009 (EST) (Had misremembered who changed it)[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:35, 24 November 2009 (EST)		Jeysie had changed the caption of the main picture from "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painful than this guy" to "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painless than this guy" on the grounds that it was a "Suicide is Painless (MASH theme)" reference. While I thing Jeysie was right on the ref, the resulting statement didn't convey the proper meaning. "Less painless" would mean that suicide hurts a lot more than going to see Ratchet, which is the exact opposite of what was intended (Aren't double negatives fun?). Perhaps a better way of phrasing this caption can be found? [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:34, 24 November 2009 (EST) (Had misremembered who changed it)[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:35, 24 November 2009 (EST)
			:''facepalm'' --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:13, 24 November 2009 (EST)

Khajidha at 17:35, 24 November 2009

2009-11-24T17:35:36Z

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	== Suicide is painful ==		== Suicide is painful ==

	~~Dead Metal~~ had changed the caption of the main picture from "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painful than this guy" to "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painless than this guy" on the grounds that it was a "Suicide is Painless (MASH theme)" reference. While I thing DM was right on the ref, the resulting statement didn't convey the proper meaning. "Less painless" would mean that suicide hurts a lot more than going to see Ratchet, which is the exact opposite of what was intended (Aren't double negatives fun?). Perhaps a better way of phrasing this caption can be found? [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:34, 24 November 2009 (EST)		Jeysie had changed the caption of the main picture from "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painful than this guy" to "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painless than this guy" on the grounds that it was a "Suicide is Painless (MASH theme)" reference. While I thing Jeysie was right on the ref, the resulting statement didn't convey the proper meaning. "Less painless" would mean that suicide hurts a lot more than going to see Ratchet, which is the exact opposite of what was intended (Aren't double negatives fun?). Perhaps a better way of phrasing this caption can be found? [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:34, 24 November 2009 (EST) (Had misremembered who changed it)[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:35, 24 November 2009 (EST)

Khajidha: Suicide is painful

2009-11-24T17:34:12Z

Suicide is painful

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== Suicide is painful ==

Dead Metal had changed the caption of the main picture from "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painful than this guy" to "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painless than this guy" on the grounds that it was a "Suicide is Painless (MASH theme)" reference. While I thing DM was right on the ref, the resulting statement didn't convey the proper meaning. "Less painless" would mean that suicide hurts a lot more than going to see Ratchet, which is the exact opposite of what was intended (Aren't double negatives fun?). Perhaps a better way of phrasing this caption can be found? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:34, 24 November 2009 (EST)

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	::That was my point, DM's change made the sentence make sense. Suicide being less painless means that it hurts worse than the treatment would, so that going to see Ratchet would be preferable. Suicide being less painful than Ratchet would mean that the patient would rather kill himself than be treated by Ratchet. The MASH reference comes through in either form (at least to me), but the contrast between dying and being treated by Ratchet is only clear in the "painful" version. Thankfully, Rosi's change has obviated the need for any more discussion of this. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:04, 25 November 2009 (EST)		::That was my point, DM's change made the sentence make sense. Suicide being less painless means that it hurts worse than the treatment would, so that going to see Ratchet would be preferable. Suicide being less painful than Ratchet would mean that the patient would rather kill himself than be treated by Ratchet. The MASH reference comes through in either form (at least to me), but the contrast between dying and being treated by Ratchet is only clear in the "painful" version. Thankfully, Rosi's change has obviated the need for any more discussion of this. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:04, 25 November 2009 (EST)
	:::Ah, OK. It just sounded like you thought the original was the version that "made sense" and I changed it myself to the version that didn't, so I figured I'd clarify. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 14:49, 25 November 2009 (EST)		:::Ah, OK. It just sounded like you thought the original was the version that "made sense" and I changed it myself to the version that didn't, so I figured I'd clarify. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 14:49, 25 November 2009 (EST)
			::::No problem, sometimes my verbosity seems to get in the way of clarity. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 23:00, 26 November 2009 (EST)

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	:(Of course, Rosicrucian has gone and found a way to cleverly compromise around the matter, as is his wont.) --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 22:39, 24 November 2009 (EST)		:(Of course, Rosicrucian has gone and found a way to cleverly compromise around the matter, as is his wont.) --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 22:39, 24 November 2009 (EST)
	::That was my point, DM's change made the sentence make sense. Suicide being less painless means that it hurts worse than the treatment would, so that going to see Ratchet would be preferable. Suicide being less painful than Ratchet would mean that the patient would rather kill himself than be treated by Ratchet. The MASH reference comes through in either form (at least to me), but the contrast between dying and being treated by Ratchet is only clear in the "painful" version. Thankfully, Rosi's change has obviated the need for any more discussion of this. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:04, 25 November 2009 (EST)		::That was my point, DM's change made the sentence make sense. Suicide being less painless means that it hurts worse than the treatment would, so that going to see Ratchet would be preferable. Suicide being less painful than Ratchet would mean that the patient would rather kill himself than be treated by Ratchet. The MASH reference comes through in either form (at least to me), but the contrast between dying and being treated by Ratchet is only clear in the "painful" version. Thankfully, Rosi's change has obviated the need for any more discussion of this. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:04, 25 November 2009 (EST)
			:::Ah, OK. It just sounded like you thought the original was the version that "made sense" and I changed it myself to the version that didn't, so I figured I'd clarify. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 14:49, 25 November 2009 (EST)

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	Jeysie had changed the caption of the main picture from "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painful than this guy" to "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painless than this guy" on the grounds that it was a "Suicide is Painless (MASH theme)" reference. While I thing Jeysie was right on the ref, the resulting statement didn't convey the proper meaning. "Less painless" would mean that suicide hurts a lot more than going to see Ratchet, which is the exact opposite of what was intended (Aren't double negatives fun?). Perhaps a better way of phrasing this caption can be found? [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:34, 24 November 2009 (EST) (Had misremembered who changed it)[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:35, 24 November 2009 (EST)		Jeysie had changed the caption of the main picture from "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painful than this guy" to "Suicide is a hell of a lot less painless than this guy" on the grounds that it was a "Suicide is Painless (MASH theme)" reference. While I thing Jeysie was right on the ref, the resulting statement didn't convey the proper meaning. "Less painless" would mean that suicide hurts a lot more than going to see Ratchet, which is the exact opposite of what was intended (Aren't double negatives fun?). Perhaps a better way of phrasing this caption can be found? [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:34, 24 November 2009 (EST) (Had misremembered who changed it)[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:35, 24 November 2009 (EST)
	:''facepalm'' --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:13, 24 November 2009 (EST)		:''facepalm'' --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 13:13, 24 November 2009 (EST)

			:Dude. The Shattered Glass MASH* theme '''is''' ''Suicide is Painful''. Try to keep up! -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:18, 24 November 2009 (EST)