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Xaaron: /* IDW Skywarp and Thundercracker */

2018-01-22T14:40:28Z

IDW Skywarp and Thundercracker

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	:They're named as outliers in the [[Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook]]. I don't believe they've been confirmed as Constructed Cold, but when questioned on it, James Roberts pointed to the Senate's experiments on sparks in Elegant Chaos. --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 08:13, 22 January 2018 (EST)		:They're named as outliers in the [[Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook]]. I don't believe they've been confirmed as Constructed Cold, but when questioned on it, James Roberts pointed to the Senate's experiments on sparks in Elegant Chaos. --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 08:13, 22 January 2018 (EST)
	::Yeah, it looks like somebody added all the Seekers to Constructed Cold just because of TAAO #12. I don't think that's viable. Just because Constructed Cold sparks were being put in Seeker-type bodies doesn't mean ONLY CC bots can be Seeker-types. Forged 'bots could have taken those bodies as well, like say the Aerial Corps had a "uniform". I'm removing the Seekers from being automatically-assumed CCs. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:26, 22 January 2018 (EST)		::Yeah, it looks like somebody added all the Seekers to Constructed Cold just because of TAAO #12. I don't think that's viable. Just because Constructed Cold sparks were being put in Seeker-type bodies doesn't mean ONLY CC bots can be Seeker-types. Forged 'bots could have taken those bodies as well, like say the Aerial Corps had a "uniform". I'm removing the Seekers from being automatically-assumed CCs. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:26, 22 January 2018 (EST)
			::EDIT: I also added a Note to Skywarp and Thundercracker's IDW pages about the ambiguity. Can someone add a footnote to them citing Roberts' Twitter post about Elegant Chaos? --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:40, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Xaaron: /* IDW Skywarp and Thundercracker */

2018-01-22T14:26:36Z

IDW Skywarp and Thundercracker

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	There's an inconsistency with these two, as both are listed as Outliers, and I cannot imagine Skywarp in particular to NOT be an outlier, but they're also listed as first wave constructed cold. I can't find any evidence of being names as Outliers (beyond being able to teleport), or any evidence of being constructed cold (Beyond looking exactly like Starscream etc, who we know WAS constructed cold)--[[User:Pit_fishes\|Pit_fishes]] ([[User talk:RedWingGladiator\|talk]]) 13:07, 22 Jan 2018 (GMT)		There's an inconsistency with these two, as both are listed as Outliers, and I cannot imagine Skywarp in particular to NOT be an outlier, but they're also listed as first wave constructed cold. I can't find any evidence of being names as Outliers (beyond being able to teleport), or any evidence of being constructed cold (Beyond looking exactly like Starscream etc, who we know WAS constructed cold)--[[User:Pit_fishes\|Pit_fishes]] ([[User talk:RedWingGladiator\|talk]]) 13:07, 22 Jan 2018 (GMT)
	:They're named as outliers in the [[Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook]]. I don't believe they've been confirmed as Constructed Cold, but when questioned on it, James Roberts pointed to the Senate's experiments on sparks in Elegant Chaos. --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 08:13, 22 January 2018 (EST)		:They're named as outliers in the [[Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook]]. I don't believe they've been confirmed as Constructed Cold, but when questioned on it, James Roberts pointed to the Senate's experiments on sparks in Elegant Chaos. --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 08:13, 22 January 2018 (EST)
			::Yeah, it looks like somebody added all the Seekers to Constructed Cold just because of TAAO #12. I don't think that's viable. Just because Constructed Cold sparks were being put in Seeker-type bodies doesn't mean ONLY CC bots can be Seeker-types. Forged 'bots could have taken those bodies as well, like say the Aerial Corps had a "uniform". I'm removing the Seekers from being automatically-assumed CCs. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:26, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Broadside: /* IDW Skywarp and Thundercracker */

2018-01-22T13:13:55Z

IDW Skywarp and Thundercracker

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	There's an inconsistency with these two, as both are listed as Outliers, and I cannot imagine Skywarp in particular to NOT be an outlier, but they're also listed as first wave constructed cold. I can't find any evidence of being names as Outliers (beyond being able to teleport), or any evidence of being constructed cold (Beyond looking exactly like Starscream etc, who we know WAS constructed cold)--[[User:Pit_fishes\|Pit_fishes]] ([[User talk:RedWingGladiator\|talk]]) 13:07, 22 Jan 2018 (GMT)		There's an inconsistency with these two, as both are listed as Outliers, and I cannot imagine Skywarp in particular to NOT be an outlier, but they're also listed as first wave constructed cold. I can't find any evidence of being names as Outliers (beyond being able to teleport), or any evidence of being constructed cold (Beyond looking exactly like Starscream etc, who we know WAS constructed cold)--[[User:Pit_fishes\|Pit_fishes]] ([[User talk:RedWingGladiator\|talk]]) 13:07, 22 Jan 2018 (GMT)
			:They're named as outliers in the [[Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook]]. I don't believe they've been confirmed as Constructed Cold, but when questioned on it, James Roberts pointed to the Senate's experiments on sparks in Elegant Chaos. --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 08:13, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Pit fishes at 13:09, 22 January 2018

2018-01-22T13:09:38Z

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	Doesn't Megatron mention at some point that the Constructicons were built in a cave?--[[User:RedWingGladiator\|RedWingGladiator]] ([[User talk:RedWingGladiator\|talk]]) 13:20, 28 May 2016 (EDT)		Doesn't Megatron mention at some point that the Constructicons were built in a cave?--[[User:RedWingGladiator\|RedWingGladiator]] ([[User talk:RedWingGladiator\|talk]]) 13:20, 28 May 2016 (EDT)

			== IDW Skywarp and Thundercracker ==

			There's an inconsistency with these two, as both are listed as Outliers, and I cannot imagine Skywarp in particular to NOT be an outlier, but they're also listed as first wave constructed cold. I can't find any evidence of being names as Outliers (beyond being able to teleport), or any evidence of being constructed cold (Beyond looking exactly like Starscream etc, who we know WAS constructed cold)--[[User:Pit_fishes\|Pit_fishes]] ([[User talk:RedWingGladiator\|talk]]) 13:07, 22 Jan 2018 (GMT)

RedWingGladiator: /* G1 Constructicons */

2016-05-28T17:21:23Z

G1 Constructicons

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	== G1 Constructicons ==		== G1 Constructicons ==

	Doesn't Megatron mention at some point that the Constructicons were built in a cave?[[User:RedWingGladiator\|RedWingGladiator]] ([[User talk:RedWingGladiator\|talk]]) 13:20, 28 May 2016 (EDT)		Doesn't Megatron mention at some point that the Constructicons were built in a cave?--[[User:RedWingGladiator\|RedWingGladiator]] ([[User talk:RedWingGladiator\|talk]]) 13:20, 28 May 2016 (EDT)

RedWingGladiator at 17:20, 28 May 2016

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	I think the IDW section should be moved to the infusion section because you need a spark from the matrix or vector sigma, you can't just build a body and turn it on. It seems to be more along the lines of the aerialbots and stunticons creation which is covered in the infusion section. [[User:Omegatron\|omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron\|talk]]) 08:47, 8 March 2015 (EDT)		I think the IDW section should be moved to the infusion section because you need a spark from the matrix or vector sigma, you can't just build a body and turn it on. It seems to be more along the lines of the aerialbots and stunticons creation which is covered in the infusion section. [[User:Omegatron\|omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron\|talk]]) 08:47, 8 March 2015 (EDT)

			== G1 Constructicons ==

			Doesn't Megatron mention at some point that the Constructicons were built in a cave?[[User:RedWingGladiator\|RedWingGladiator]] ([[User talk:RedWingGladiator\|talk]]) 13:20, 28 May 2016 (EDT)

Omegatron: /* IDW: Mechanical construction vs infusion */ new section

2015-03-08T12:47:43Z

IDW: Mechanical construction vs infusion: new section

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	Similar question: more and more robots are getting ID'ed as Forged or Constructed Cold. Do we want to continue listing all the revelations in paragraph form, or shift it into a list format? --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 08:34, 10 July 2014 (EDT)		Similar question: more and more robots are getting ID'ed as Forged or Constructed Cold. Do we want to continue listing all the revelations in paragraph form, or shift it into a list format? --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 08:34, 10 July 2014 (EDT)
	:I had a crack at tabulating it - there's probably a couple I missed though --[[User:Emvee\|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee\|talk]]) 17:29, 12 July 2014 (EDT)		:I had a crack at tabulating it - there's probably a couple I missed though --[[User:Emvee\|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee\|talk]]) 17:29, 12 July 2014 (EDT)

			== IDW: Mechanical construction vs infusion ==

			I think the IDW section should be moved to the infusion section because you need a spark from the matrix or vector sigma, you can't just build a body and turn it on. It seems to be more along the lines of the aerialbots and stunticons creation which is covered in the infusion section. [[User:Omegatron\|omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron\|talk]]) 08:47, 8 March 2015 (EDT)

Abates: /* Matrix Flame and Magnus ? */

2015-03-01T21:01:26Z

Matrix Flame and Magnus ?

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	Where does the part about the Matrix Flame being able to create life and being used to make Magnus come from. I've heard it before , but I looked through Target 2006 and I don't see it in there. All that is shown in there is that the Matrix Flame acts as an "indicator light" for the status of the matrix. There's nothing about it creating life or Magnus that I can see. Citation? -[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 13:28, 20 November 2006 (UTC)		Where does the part about the Matrix Flame being able to create life and being used to make Magnus come from. I've heard it before , but I looked through Target 2006 and I don't see it in there. All that is shown in there is that the Matrix Flame acts as an "indicator light" for the status of the matrix. There's nothing about it creating life or Magnus that I can see. Citation? -[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 13:28, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
	:[http://transfans.~~net~~/comics_guide_detail.php?id=93&page=5 Here.] -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)		:[http://transfans.co.uk/comics_guide_detail.php?id=93&page=5 Here.] -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 00:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

	::Ah thanks. That's what get for looking in the TPB and not the actual issues. :).		::Ah thanks. That's what get for looking in the TPB and not the actual issues. :).

Emvee at 21:29, 12 July 2014

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	Similar question: more and more robots are getting ID'ed as Forged or Constructed Cold. Do we want to continue listing all the revelations in paragraph form, or shift it into a list format? --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 08:34, 10 July 2014 (EDT)		Similar question: more and more robots are getting ID'ed as Forged or Constructed Cold. Do we want to continue listing all the revelations in paragraph form, or shift it into a list format? --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 08:34, 10 July 2014 (EDT)
			:I had a crack at tabulating it - there's probably a couple I missed though --[[User:Emvee\|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee\|talk]]) 17:29, 12 July 2014 (EDT)

Xaaron: /* Forged / Cold Split? */

2014-07-10T12:34:04Z

Forged / Cold Split?

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	According to Tyrest, they were stockpiling new sparks from the Matrix faster than they could build new bodies. So even though the Matrix vanished during Nova Prime's reign, they may have continued pumping out "Constructed Cold" Cybertronians for some time after that. (Especially since they couldn't actually acknowledge publically that the Matrix was missing.) So we don't know WHEN the last Constructed Cold 'bot finally rolled off the assembly line, except that by the time of Nominus Prime's assassination, Senator Shockwave had begun lobbying for a return to the Spark-Splicing program. So all Constructed Cold 'bots ''definitely'' predate Sentinel Prime, but may have continued coming alive for some time during Nominus Prime's reign. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 08:29, 21 November 2013 (EST)		According to Tyrest, they were stockpiling new sparks from the Matrix faster than they could build new bodies. So even though the Matrix vanished during Nova Prime's reign, they may have continued pumping out "Constructed Cold" Cybertronians for some time after that. (Especially since they couldn't actually acknowledge publically that the Matrix was missing.) So we don't know WHEN the last Constructed Cold 'bot finally rolled off the assembly line, except that by the time of Nominus Prime's assassination, Senator Shockwave had begun lobbying for a return to the Spark-Splicing program. So all Constructed Cold 'bots ''definitely'' predate Sentinel Prime, but may have continued coming alive for some time during Nominus Prime's reign. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 08:29, 21 November 2013 (EST)

			== Forged / Cold Split? ==

			We're getting more and more information about the IDW birthing process. Is it time to consider splitting these concepts onto a separate page(s), instead of redirecting into the Reproduction article?

			Similar question: more and more robots are getting ID'ed as Forged or Constructed Cold. Do we want to continue listing all the revelations in paragraph form, or shift it into a list format? --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 08:34, 10 July 2014 (EDT)

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	:They're named as outliers in the [[Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook]]. I don't believe they've been confirmed as Constructed Cold, but when questioned on it, James Roberts pointed to the Senate's experiments on sparks in Elegant Chaos. --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 08:13, 22 January 2018 (EST)		:They're named as outliers in the [[Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook]]. I don't believe they've been confirmed as Constructed Cold, but when questioned on it, James Roberts pointed to the Senate's experiments on sparks in Elegant Chaos. --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 08:13, 22 January 2018 (EST)
	::Yeah, it looks like somebody added all the Seekers to Constructed Cold just because of TAAO #12. I don't think that's viable. Just because Constructed Cold sparks were being put in Seeker-type bodies doesn't mean ONLY CC bots can be Seeker-types. Forged 'bots could have taken those bodies as well, like say the Aerial Corps had a "uniform". I'm removing the Seekers from being automatically-assumed CCs. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:26, 22 January 2018 (EST)		::Yeah, it looks like somebody added all the Seekers to Constructed Cold just because of TAAO #12. I don't think that's viable. Just because Constructed Cold sparks were being put in Seeker-type bodies doesn't mean ONLY CC bots can be Seeker-types. Forged 'bots could have taken those bodies as well, like say the Aerial Corps had a "uniform". I'm removing the Seekers from being automatically-assumed CCs. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:26, 22 January 2018 (EST)
			::EDIT: I also added a Note to Skywarp and Thundercracker's IDW pages about the ambiguity. Can someone add a footnote to them citing Roberts' Twitter post about Elegant Chaos? --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:40, 22 January 2018 (EST)

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	There's an inconsistency with these two, as both are listed as Outliers, and I cannot imagine Skywarp in particular to NOT be an outlier, but they're also listed as first wave constructed cold. I can't find any evidence of being names as Outliers (beyond being able to teleport), or any evidence of being constructed cold (Beyond looking exactly like Starscream etc, who we know WAS constructed cold)--[[User:Pit_fishes\|Pit_fishes]] ([[User talk:RedWingGladiator\|talk]]) 13:07, 22 Jan 2018 (GMT)		There's an inconsistency with these two, as both are listed as Outliers, and I cannot imagine Skywarp in particular to NOT be an outlier, but they're also listed as first wave constructed cold. I can't find any evidence of being names as Outliers (beyond being able to teleport), or any evidence of being constructed cold (Beyond looking exactly like Starscream etc, who we know WAS constructed cold)--[[User:Pit_fishes\|Pit_fishes]] ([[User talk:RedWingGladiator\|talk]]) 13:07, 22 Jan 2018 (GMT)
	:They're named as outliers in the [[Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook]]. I don't believe they've been confirmed as Constructed Cold, but when questioned on it, James Roberts pointed to the Senate's experiments on sparks in Elegant Chaos. --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 08:13, 22 January 2018 (EST)		:They're named as outliers in the [[Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook]]. I don't believe they've been confirmed as Constructed Cold, but when questioned on it, James Roberts pointed to the Senate's experiments on sparks in Elegant Chaos. --[[User:Riptide\|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide\|talk]]) 08:13, 22 January 2018 (EST)
			::Yeah, it looks like somebody added all the Seekers to Constructed Cold just because of TAAO #12. I don't think that's viable. Just because Constructed Cold sparks were being put in Seeker-type bodies doesn't mean ONLY CC bots can be Seeker-types. Forged 'bots could have taken those bodies as well, like say the Aerial Corps had a "uniform". I'm removing the Seekers from being automatically-assumed CCs. --[[User:Xaaron\|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron\|talk]]) 09:26, 22 January 2018 (EST)