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Saix moved page Talk:Sacred implement to Talk:Sacred treasure: Move to more widely accepted translation of Japanese term and away from Derik's weird idiosyncrasies

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	::::(I still think we should have a 'possible sacred implements' section, but I acknowledge that it would instantly be loaded down with every mystical gewgaw ever.) ...the Cyber Planet Keys totally count though. ;) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 11:10, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		::::(I still think we should have a 'possible sacred implements' section, but I acknowledge that it would instantly be loaded down with every mystical gewgaw ever.) ...the Cyber Planet Keys totally count though. ;) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 11:10, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
	::::: You havn't finished Exiles yet. It wont spoil you much just to say "Prime is wrong." --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 11:36, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		::::: You havn't finished Exiles yet. It wont spoil you much just to say "Prime is wrong." --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 11:36, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
			:::::: Oh good! I haven't been able to stop hearing the ''Prime'' cast as I read it and Peter Cullen's listless readings make me want to punch him in the voice. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 12:29, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

76.28.76.206: /* Artifacts of the Primes */

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	::::IIRC in Exiles the text seems to suggest (interrupting OP's train of thought just before he can get there) that the Star Saber fragments are the source of life on Velocitron. Which would put it in the range of function for Sacred Implements.		::::IIRC in Exiles the text seems to suggest (interrupting OP's train of thought just before he can get there) that the Star Saber fragments are the source of life on Velocitron. Which would put it in the range of function for Sacred Implements.
	::::(I still think we should have a 'possible sacred implements' section, but I acknowledge that it would instantly be loaded down with every mystical gewgaw ever.) ...the Cyber Planet Keys totally count though. ;) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 11:10, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		::::(I still think we should have a 'possible sacred implements' section, but I acknowledge that it would instantly be loaded down with every mystical gewgaw ever.) ...the Cyber Planet Keys totally count though. ;) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 11:10, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
			::::: You havn't finished Exiles yet. It wont spoil you much just to say "Prime is wrong." --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 11:36, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

Derik: /* Artifacts of the Primes */

2011-10-12T15:10:59Z

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	::So how do we define that, is what I'm asking? Something specifically made by Primus, Unicron, or the Chronachitect? What about the Star Saber where the Matrix is a part of it, but not what it's really about? Should we have an [[Artifacts of the Primes]] page for all their ancient magical weapons and icons then?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:34, 12 October 2011 (EDT).		::So how do we define that, is what I'm asking? Something specifically made by Primus, Unicron, or the Chronachitect? What about the Star Saber where the Matrix is a part of it, but not what it's really about? Should we have an [[Artifacts of the Primes]] page for all their ancient magical weapons and icons then?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:34, 12 October 2011 (EDT).
	:::Seems like the better bet. The sacred implements aren't just ancient mystical geegaws, they're for creating life. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 07:58, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		:::Seems like the better bet. The sacred implements aren't just ancient mystical geegaws, they're for creating life. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 07:58, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
			::::IIRC in Exiles the text seems to suggest (interrupting OP's train of thought just before he can get there) that the Star Saber fragments are the source of life on Velocitron. Which would put it in the range of function for Sacred Implements.
			::::(I still think we should have a 'possible sacred implements' section, but I acknowledge that it would instantly be loaded down with every mystical gewgaw ever.) ...the Cyber Planet Keys totally count though. ;) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 11:10, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

Chris McFeely: /* Artifacts of the Primes */

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	:Unless it's been specifically identified as a sacred implement/god item, it shouldn't be here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 07:31, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		:Unless it's been specifically identified as a sacred implement/god item, it shouldn't be here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 07:31, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
	::So how do we define that, is what I'm asking? Something specifically made by Primus, Unicron, or the Chronachitect? What about the Star Saber where the Matrix is a part of it, but not what it's really about? Should we have an [[Artifacts of the Primes]] page for all their ancient magical weapons and icons then?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:34, 12 October 2011 (EDT).		::So how do we define that, is what I'm asking? Something specifically made by Primus, Unicron, or the Chronachitect? What about the Star Saber where the Matrix is a part of it, but not what it's really about? Should we have an [[Artifacts of the Primes]] page for all their ancient magical weapons and icons then?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:34, 12 October 2011 (EDT).
	::;Seems like the better bet. The sacred implements aren't just ancient mystical geegaws, they're for creating life. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 07:58, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		:::Seems like the better bet. The sacred implements aren't just ancient mystical geegaws, they're for creating life. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 07:58, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

Chris McFeely: /* Artifacts of the Primes */

2011-10-12T11:58:21Z

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	:Unless it's been specifically identified as a sacred implement/god item, it shouldn't be here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 07:31, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		:Unless it's been specifically identified as a sacred implement/god item, it shouldn't be here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 07:31, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
	::So how do we define that, is what I'm asking? Something specifically made by Primus, Unicron, or the Chronachitect? What about the Star Saber where the Matrix is a part of it, but not what it's really about? Should we have an [[Artifacts of the Primes]] page for all their ancient magical weapons and icons then?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:34, 12 October 2011 (EDT).		::So how do we define that, is what I'm asking? Something specifically made by Primus, Unicron, or the Chronachitect? What about the Star Saber where the Matrix is a part of it, but not what it's really about? Should we have an [[Artifacts of the Primes]] page for all their ancient magical weapons and icons then?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:34, 12 October 2011 (EDT).
			::;Seems like the better bet. The sacred implements aren't just ancient mystical geegaws, they're for creating life. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 07:58, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

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	So should all the sacred artifacts of the Primes introduced in Exiles go here or on a seperate page? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:25, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		So should all the sacred artifacts of the Primes introduced in Exiles go here or on a seperate page? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:25, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
	:Unless it's been specifically identified as a sacred implement/god item, it shouldn't be here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 07:31, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		:Unless it's been specifically identified as a sacred implement/god item, it shouldn't be here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 07:31, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
			::So how do we define that, is what I'm asking? Something specifically made by Primus, Unicron, or the Chronachitect? What about the Star Saber where the Matrix is a part of it, but not what it's really about? Should we have an [[Artifacts of the Primes]] page for all their ancient magical weapons and icons then?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:34, 12 October 2011 (EDT).

Interrobang: /* Artifacts of the Primes */

2011-10-12T11:31:00Z

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	So should all the sacred artifacts of the Primes introduced in Exiles go here or on a seperate page? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:25, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		So should all the sacred artifacts of the Primes introduced in Exiles go here or on a seperate page? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:25, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
			:Unless it's been specifically identified as a sacred implement/god item, it shouldn't be here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 07:31, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

76.28.76.206: /* Artifacts of the Primes */ new section

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	::It's used to refer to the [[Wikipedia:Imperial Regalia of Japan\|Imperial Regalia of Japan]], which is where the "sacred treasures" thing comes from. The kanji themselves literally mean "god" and "device/vessel". This term is not used anywhere other than a now-deleted website, so I see little issue with sticking with its official (if subjectively stupid-sounding) translation in place of a contrived term Derik came up with. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 14:20, 18 August 2011 (EDT)		::It's used to refer to the [[Wikipedia:Imperial Regalia of Japan\|Imperial Regalia of Japan]], which is where the "sacred treasures" thing comes from. The kanji themselves literally mean "god" and "device/vessel". This term is not used anywhere other than a now-deleted website, so I see little issue with sticking with its official (if subjectively stupid-sounding) translation in place of a contrived term Derik came up with. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 14:20, 18 August 2011 (EDT)
	:::...I came up with "God Item?" Was I drunk at the time? That's terrible! -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:54, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		:::...I came up with "God Item?" Was I drunk at the time? That's terrible! -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:54, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

			== Artifacts of the Primes ==


			So should all the sacred artifacts of the Primes introduced in Exiles go here or on a seperate page? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:25, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

Interrobang: Talk:God item moved to Talk:Sacred implement over redirect: Ugh, never mind.

2011-10-12T09:01:36Z

Talk:God item moved to Talk:Sacred implement over redirect: Ugh, never mind.

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	::::(I still think we should have a 'possible sacred implements' section, but I acknowledge that it would instantly be loaded down with every mystical gewgaw ever.) ...the Cyber Planet Keys totally count though. ;) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 11:10, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		::::(I still think we should have a 'possible sacred implements' section, but I acknowledge that it would instantly be loaded down with every mystical gewgaw ever.) ...the Cyber Planet Keys totally count though. ;) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 11:10, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
	::::: You havn't finished Exiles yet. It wont spoil you much just to say "Prime is wrong." --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 11:36, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		::::: You havn't finished Exiles yet. It wont spoil you much just to say "Prime is wrong." --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 11:36, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
			:::::: Oh good! I haven't been able to stop hearing the ''Prime'' cast as I read it and Peter Cullen's listless readings make me want to punch him in the voice. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 12:29, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

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	:Unless it's been specifically identified as a sacred implement/god item, it shouldn't be here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 07:31, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		:Unless it's been specifically identified as a sacred implement/god item, it shouldn't be here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 07:31, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
	::So how do we define that, is what I'm asking? Something specifically made by Primus, Unicron, or the Chronachitect? What about the Star Saber where the Matrix is a part of it, but not what it's really about? Should we have an [[Artifacts of the Primes]] page for all their ancient magical weapons and icons then?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:34, 12 October 2011 (EDT).		::So how do we define that, is what I'm asking? Something specifically made by Primus, Unicron, or the Chronachitect? What about the Star Saber where the Matrix is a part of it, but not what it's really about? Should we have an [[Artifacts of the Primes]] page for all their ancient magical weapons and icons then?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:34, 12 October 2011 (EDT).
	::;Seems like the better bet. The sacred implements aren't just ancient mystical geegaws, they're for creating life. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 07:58, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		:::Seems like the better bet. The sacred implements aren't just ancient mystical geegaws, they're for creating life. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 07:58, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

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	:Unless it's been specifically identified as a sacred implement/god item, it shouldn't be here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 07:31, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		:Unless it's been specifically identified as a sacred implement/god item, it shouldn't be here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 07:31, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
	::So how do we define that, is what I'm asking? Something specifically made by Primus, Unicron, or the Chronachitect? What about the Star Saber where the Matrix is a part of it, but not what it's really about? Should we have an [[Artifacts of the Primes]] page for all their ancient magical weapons and icons then?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:34, 12 October 2011 (EDT).		::So how do we define that, is what I'm asking? Something specifically made by Primus, Unicron, or the Chronachitect? What about the Star Saber where the Matrix is a part of it, but not what it's really about? Should we have an [[Artifacts of the Primes]] page for all their ancient magical weapons and icons then?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:34, 12 October 2011 (EDT).
			::;Seems like the better bet. The sacred implements aren't just ancient mystical geegaws, they're for creating life. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 07:58, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

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	So should all the sacred artifacts of the Primes introduced in Exiles go here or on a seperate page? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:25, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		So should all the sacred artifacts of the Primes introduced in Exiles go here or on a seperate page? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:25, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
	:Unless it's been specifically identified as a sacred implement/god item, it shouldn't be here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 07:31, 12 October 2011 (EDT)		:Unless it's been specifically identified as a sacred implement/god item, it shouldn't be here. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 07:31, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
			::So how do we define that, is what I'm asking? Something specifically made by Primus, Unicron, or the Chronachitect? What about the Star Saber where the Matrix is a part of it, but not what it's really about? Should we have an [[Artifacts of the Primes]] page for all their ancient magical weapons and icons then?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 07:34, 12 October 2011 (EDT).