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	So, in the movies, does Sam still have the power and knowledge from the Allspark? In the comics they say it was transferred to Matrix, what happened in the movie?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.243\|210.56.91.243]] 07:01, 27 January 2012 (EST)		So, in the movies, does Sam still have the power and knowledge from the Allspark? In the comics they say it was transferred to Matrix, what happened in the movie?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.243\|210.56.91.243]] 07:01, 27 January 2012 (EST)
	No one?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.87\|210.56.91.87]] 11:26, 28 January 2012 (EST)		No one?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.87\|210.56.91.87]] 11:26, 28 January 2012 (EST)
			:It's not addressed. It seems logical to assume that the same thing happened in the films as did in the comics and novel. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 11:45, 28 January 2012 (EST)

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	==Allspark power==		==Allspark power==
	So, in the movies, does Sam still have the power and knowledge from the Allspark? In the comics they say it was transferred to Matrix, what happened in the movie?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.243\|210.56.91.243]] 07:01, 27 January 2012 (EST)		So, in the movies, does Sam still have the power and knowledge from the Allspark? In the comics they say it was transferred to Matrix, what happened in the movie?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.243\|210.56.91.243]] 07:01, 27 January 2012 (EST)
			No one?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.87\|210.56.91.87]] 11:26, 28 January 2012 (EST)

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	:They're both canon. Put them both in the article. (Incidentally, the [[:Image:Witwickytree.jpg\|family tree from the first movie]] gives a birth year of 1992.) [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 02:09, 24 December 2009 (EST)		:They're both canon. Put them both in the article. (Incidentally, the [[:Image:Witwickytree.jpg\|family tree from the first movie]] gives a birth year of 1992.) [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 02:09, 24 December 2009 (EST)

	~~==Allspark power==~~
	So, in the movies, does Sam still have the power and knowledge from the Allspark? In the comics they say it was transferred to Matrix, what happened in the movie?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.243\|210.56.91.243]] 07:01, 27 January 2012 (EST)

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	With ''Dark of the Moon'''s release now behid us, anyone think Simmons' "That kid is an alien bad news magnet" quote would fit as a new main quote? It sort of just sums him up.		With ''Dark of the Moon'''s release now behid us, anyone think Simmons' "That kid is an alien bad news magnet" quote would fit as a new main quote? It sort of just sums him up.
	:- [[User:Queso\|¡Usa El Queso!]] <sup>[[User talk:Queso\|Complain here]]</sup> 01:01, 30 June 2011 (EDT)		:- [[User:Queso\|¡Usa El Queso!]] <sup>[[User talk:Queso\|Complain here]]</sup> 01:01, 30 June 2011 (EDT)

			==Allspark power==
			So, in the movies, does Sam still have the power and knowledge from the Allspark? In the comics they say it was transferred to Matrix, what happened in the movie?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.243\|210.56.91.243]] 07:01, 27 January 2012 (EST)

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Date of birth

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	During [[The Fallen]]'s message to humanity to turn Sam over to him, he shows several personal identifications, including his Social Security and driver's license. The driver's license says that Sam was born 09-13-91, not on October 20, 1991 Since both the film and Hasbro are considered pretty high on canon sources, which should we consider to be the canon birth date? -- [[User:SFH\|SFH]] 01:09, 24 December 2009 (EST)		During [[The Fallen]]'s message to humanity to turn Sam over to him, he shows several personal identifications, including his Social Security and driver's license. The driver's license says that Sam was born 09-13-91, not on October 20, 1991 Since both the film and Hasbro are considered pretty high on canon sources, which should we consider to be the canon birth date? -- [[User:SFH\|SFH]] 01:09, 24 December 2009 (EST)
	:They're both canon. Put them both in the article. (Incidentally, the [[:Image:Witwickytree.jpg\|family tree from the first movie]] gives a birth year of 1992.) [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 02:09, 24 December 2009 (EST)		:They're both canon. Put them both in the article. (Incidentally, the [[:Image:Witwickytree.jpg\|family tree from the first movie]] gives a birth year of 1992.) [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 02:09, 24 December 2009 (EST)

			==Allspark power==
			So, in the movies, does Sam still have the power and knowledge from the Allspark? In the comics they say it was transferred to Matrix, what happened in the movie?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.243\|210.56.91.243]] 07:01, 27 January 2012 (EST)

	== Mutt? ==		== Mutt? ==

Queso: /* New quote? */ new section

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	Should we make mention of the indy jones fig? [[User:Hida Atarasi\|Hida Atarasi]] 21:15, 1 January 2010 (EST)		Should we make mention of the indy jones fig? [[User:Hida Atarasi\|Hida Atarasi]] 21:15, 1 January 2010 (EST)

			== New quote? ==

			With ''Dark of the Moon'''s release now behid us, anyone think Simmons' "That kid is an alien bad news magnet" quote would fit as a new main quote? It sort of just sums him up.
			:- [[User:Queso\|¡Usa El Queso!]] <sup>[[User talk:Queso\|Complain here]]</sup> 01:01, 30 June 2011 (EDT)

Interrobang at 04:44, 28 February 2010

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			"Samuel James Witwicky"? Where did "uel James" come from?

			Edit: Oh, the novelization. Nevermind. [[User:Awa64\|Awa64]] 07:32, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

			: NP, it looks like the full name is gonna be in movie dialog, otherwise I'd have made a specific note of the novelization. In 23 days (or whatever) it'll be moot. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 07:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

			Fixed the last of the links. -[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] 13:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

			''If 217 had the same meaning for Sam, that would make his date of birth February 2nd, 1990.''

			Do we know for sure the movie takes place in 2007 just because it was released this year? School's in and there's a 2009 Camaro just driving down the road, which I would think puts it in early fall 2008. -[[User:Rotty\|Rotty]] 20:36, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

			:...good point, I'll add another caveat in the trivia note. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

			::I looked at the trivia and the English was very mangled. I was going to clean it up, but... there's really no way to determine what year the movie takes place, as far as I can remember. We can only determine the "no earlier than" cutoff. I also don't recall any specific evidence as to Sam's actual age, which makes it even harder. All in all, this is a little too speculatory and unproveable to be trivia. I left the Michael Bay bit and that's all. --[[User:Sntint\|Sntint]] 04:07, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

			:::Sam's explicitly 17, though maybe that's the novelization and not film dialogue. The film is implicitly set during the Bush Administration (between the President's accent and the Bush sticker to the right of Glen Whitmann's computer monitor), with a 2009 Camaro on the road. Saying anything definitive would be fanon, though. -[[User:Rotty\|Rotty]] 04:14, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

			==(1990-)==

			What's the source for this? We know he's 17, and the film seems to be set around September of 2008 (school's in, everyone not in uniform dresses like it's summer, and there's a 2009 Camaro just driving through a highway tunnel). That could give him a birth year of either late 1990 or 1991, so from where did 1990 come? -[[User:Rotty\|Rotty]] 20:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

			:It's the birth year he wrote on his genealogy chart. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 01:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

			::I did nto know that at the time, I think i shall revert the trivia note with a footnote indicating where the year has been confirmed.
			::Meta thought- we call out footnotes section... but we're almost never them for citation. They probably ''should'' be called footnotes. If there was a consensus to change this could your bot do so? (I suspect the answer is yes-but-I-have-no-way-of-getting-a-list-of-articles-with-sections-called-references) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 01:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
			:::Can you ask that again in English? --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 01:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
			::::Can the Diagnostic Drone make a global change to all instances of a section title as well as changing links? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
			:::::Sure. It can do any text replacement I want. And while there's no way to get the list of articles with that section, as you say, I can just tell it to check every page on the wiki. I probably wouldn't babysit it while doing that, though. It would be slow. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 03:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

			== Nononononononononono ==

			He says it seven times throughout the film. I counted when I saw it in IMAX yesterday. Why delete this fact? Other Wiki entries here include humorous facts about their characters, and the fact that Shia says it multiple times throughout the film is just as noteworthy as any other entry here.
			:Apparently, you're the only one who thinks it is notable. -- [[User:SFH\|SFH]] 04:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
			::The only person in the last hour, perhaps. Your blatant and obvious flamebait notwithstanding, I have seen it mentioned on various TF boards as jokes, and thought it notable enough to note on the TF wiki. And again, it is no less notable than other wiki entries with joke captions and details in it, including this one about Sam getting a Porsche.
			:::It's not really funny or notable in oddness. Hell, I have a good memory for the inane and I can barely remember him saying it because its such a normal thing to say when faced with the situations he was in. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 04:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
			:::Simmons and Lennox ALSO say it. Whooptee-shit. Shall we also count all the variations of ''all'' common expressions of shock and alarm, like the various "my God"s? --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 16:32, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
			::::Nonononono (etc. etc. snipped for inanity)<small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:68.228.80.29\|68.228.80.29]] ([[User talk:68.228.80.29\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.228.80.29\|contribs]]){{#if:19:42, 9 October\| 19:42, 9 October\|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
			:::::Yeah, you're cruising for a block.--[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]] 20:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

			==Main pic==
	If we ever get a jonez to replace the main image, I rather like [http://www.cinematical.com/photos/new-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-images/2016950/full/ this] one. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:46, 25 June 2009 (EDT)		If we ever get a jonez to replace the main image, I rather like [http://www.cinematical.com/photos/new-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-images/2016950/full/ this] one. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:46, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

Hida Atarasi at 02:15, 2 January 2010

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	During [[The Fallen]]'s message to humanity to turn Sam over to him, he shows several personal identifications, including his Social Security and driver's license. The driver's license says that Sam was born 09-13-91, not on October 20, 1991 Since both the film and Hasbro are considered pretty high on canon sources, which should we consider to be the canon birth date? -- [[User:SFH\|SFH]] 01:09, 24 December 2009 (EST)		During [[The Fallen]]'s message to humanity to turn Sam over to him, he shows several personal identifications, including his Social Security and driver's license. The driver's license says that Sam was born 09-13-91, not on October 20, 1991 Since both the film and Hasbro are considered pretty high on canon sources, which should we consider to be the canon birth date? -- [[User:SFH\|SFH]] 01:09, 24 December 2009 (EST)
	:They're both canon. Put them both in the article. (Incidentally, the [[:Image:Witwickytree.jpg\|family tree from the first movie]] gives a birth year of 1992.) [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 02:09, 24 December 2009 (EST)		:They're both canon. Put them both in the article. (Incidentally, the [[:Image:Witwickytree.jpg\|family tree from the first movie]] gives a birth year of 1992.) [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 02:09, 24 December 2009 (EST)

			== Mutt? ==

			Should we make mention of the indy jones fig? [[User:Hida Atarasi\|Hida Atarasi]] 21:15, 1 January 2010 (EST)

Interrobang: /* Date of birth */

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Date of birth

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	During [[The Fallen]]'s message to humanity to turn Sam over to him, he shows several personal identifications, including his Social Security and driver's license. The driver's license says that Sam was born 09-13-91, not on October 20, 1991 Since both the film and Hasbro are considered pretty high on canon sources, which should we consider to be the canon birth date? -- [[User:SFH\|SFH]] 01:09, 24 December 2009 (EST)		During [[The Fallen]]'s message to humanity to turn Sam over to him, he shows several personal identifications, including his Social Security and driver's license. The driver's license says that Sam was born 09-13-91, not on October 20, 1991 Since both the film and Hasbro are considered pretty high on canon sources, which should we consider to be the canon birth date? -- [[User:SFH\|SFH]] 01:09, 24 December 2009 (EST)
			:They're both canon. Put them both in the article. (Incidentally, the [[:Image:Witwickytree.jpg\|family tree from the first movie]] gives a birth year of 1992.) [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 02:09, 24 December 2009 (EST)

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	So, in the movies, does Sam still have the power and knowledge from the Allspark? In the comics they say it was transferred to Matrix, what happened in the movie?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.243\|210.56.91.243]] 07:01, 27 January 2012 (EST)		So, in the movies, does Sam still have the power and knowledge from the Allspark? In the comics they say it was transferred to Matrix, what happened in the movie?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.243\|210.56.91.243]] 07:01, 27 January 2012 (EST)
	No one?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.87\|210.56.91.87]] 11:26, 28 January 2012 (EST)		No one?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.87\|210.56.91.87]] 11:26, 28 January 2012 (EST)
			:It's not addressed. It seems logical to assume that the same thing happened in the films as did in the comics and novel. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 11:45, 28 January 2012 (EST)

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			"Samuel James Witwicky"? Where did "uel James" come from?

			Edit: Oh, the novelization. Nevermind. [[User:Awa64\|Awa64]] 07:32, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

			: NP, it looks like the full name is gonna be in movie dialog, otherwise I'd have made a specific note of the novelization. In 23 days (or whatever) it'll be moot. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 07:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

			Fixed the last of the links. -[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] 13:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

			''If 217 had the same meaning for Sam, that would make his date of birth February 2nd, 1990.''

			Do we know for sure the movie takes place in 2007 just because it was released this year? School's in and there's a 2009 Camaro just driving down the road, which I would think puts it in early fall 2008. -[[User:Rotty\|Rotty]] 20:36, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

			:...good point, I'll add another caveat in the trivia note. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

			::I looked at the trivia and the English was very mangled. I was going to clean it up, but... there's really no way to determine what year the movie takes place, as far as I can remember. We can only determine the "no earlier than" cutoff. I also don't recall any specific evidence as to Sam's actual age, which makes it even harder. All in all, this is a little too speculatory and unproveable to be trivia. I left the Michael Bay bit and that's all. --[[User:Sntint\|Sntint]] 04:07, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

			:::Sam's explicitly 17, though maybe that's the novelization and not film dialogue. The film is implicitly set during the Bush Administration (between the President's accent and the Bush sticker to the right of Glen Whitmann's computer monitor), with a 2009 Camaro on the road. Saying anything definitive would be fanon, though. -[[User:Rotty\|Rotty]] 04:14, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

			==(1990-)==

			What's the source for this? We know he's 17, and the film seems to be set around September of 2008 (school's in, everyone not in uniform dresses like it's summer, and there's a 2009 Camaro just driving through a highway tunnel). That could give him a birth year of either late 1990 or 1991, so from where did 1990 come? -[[User:Rotty\|Rotty]] 20:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

			:It's the birth year he wrote on his genealogy chart. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 01:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

			::I did nto know that at the time, I think i shall revert the trivia note with a footnote indicating where the year has been confirmed.
			::Meta thought- we call out footnotes section... but we're almost never them for citation. They probably ''should'' be called footnotes. If there was a consensus to change this could your bot do so? (I suspect the answer is yes-but-I-have-no-way-of-getting-a-list-of-articles-with-sections-called-references) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 01:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
			:::Can you ask that again in English? --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 01:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
			::::Can the Diagnostic Drone make a global change to all instances of a section title as well as changing links? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
			:::::Sure. It can do any text replacement I want. And while there's no way to get the list of articles with that section, as you say, I can just tell it to check every page on the wiki. I probably wouldn't babysit it while doing that, though. It would be slow. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 03:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

			== Nononononononononono ==

			He says it seven times throughout the film. I counted when I saw it in IMAX yesterday. Why delete this fact? Other Wiki entries here include humorous facts about their characters, and the fact that Shia says it multiple times throughout the film is just as noteworthy as any other entry here.
			:Apparently, you're the only one who thinks it is notable. -- [[User:SFH\|SFH]] 04:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
			::The only person in the last hour, perhaps. Your blatant and obvious flamebait notwithstanding, I have seen it mentioned on various TF boards as jokes, and thought it notable enough to note on the TF wiki. And again, it is no less notable than other wiki entries with joke captions and details in it, including this one about Sam getting a Porsche.
			:::It's not really funny or notable in oddness. Hell, I have a good memory for the inane and I can barely remember him saying it because its such a normal thing to say when faced with the situations he was in. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 04:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
			:::Simmons and Lennox ALSO say it. Whooptee-shit. Shall we also count all the variations of ''all'' common expressions of shock and alarm, like the various "my God"s? --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 16:32, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
			::::Nonononono (etc. etc. snipped for inanity)<small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:68.228.80.29\|68.228.80.29]] ([[User talk:68.228.80.29\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.228.80.29\|contribs]]){{#if:19:42, 9 October\| 19:42, 9 October\|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
			:::::Yeah, you're cruising for a block.--[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]] 20:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

			==Main pic==
	If we ever get a jonez to replace the main image, I rather like [http://www.cinematical.com/photos/new-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-images/2016950/full/ this] one. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:46, 25 June 2009 (EDT)		If we ever get a jonez to replace the main image, I rather like [http://www.cinematical.com/photos/new-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-images/2016950/full/ this] one. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:46, 25 June 2009 (EDT)