Talk:Scale - Revision history

MBG at 18:21, 6 April 2024

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	Take how bulkhead from the animated series has the two versions of his toy; the one that comes with a headmaster unit is significantly larger than the original. What section should this be discussed in?[[User:Skadooshbag\|Skadooshbag]] ([[User talk:Skadooshbag\|talk]]) 15:12, 31 March 2020 (EDT)		Take how bulkhead from the animated series has the two versions of his toy; the one that comes with a headmaster unit is significantly larger than the original. What section should this be discussed in?[[User:Skadooshbag\|Skadooshbag]] ([[User talk:Skadooshbag\|talk]]) 15:12, 31 March 2020 (EDT)
	:We already have [[Scale#Multiple_scales_of_same_character]]. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 16:40, 31 March 2020 (EDT)		:We already have [[Scale#Multiple_scales_of_same_character]]. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 16:40, 31 March 2020 (EDT)

			== Constructicon scale ==
			This is just here as a note and a clarifier on already existing edits, as it's something I discovered while working on a scale chart. The wiki, and this article, repeatedly claims Long Haul to be a very large model of truck. As far as I can tell, this arose from the fact that people discovered how big a mining truck can get and then assumed Long Haul had to be that big as well. And, to be fair, the information on the sizing of what he actually turns into is very scarce, but pictures of the real truck certainly don't make it look like a towering monster. I managed to find a scale model of the truck, which are pretty common, and work backwards from there, which gave him a length of roughly 7.5 meters. This is by no means small--Optimus's truck cab is about six meters long--but it's half the length and about an eighth the bulk of the trucks this wiki usually used as an example of how big he "should" be (i.e. the Caterpillar 797 that ROTF Long Haul turns into in that famous Josh Nizzi concept).[[User:MBG\|MBG]] ([[User talk:MBG\|talk]]) 14:21, 6 April 2024 (EDT)

Khajidha: /* Characters with more than one version of their toy that're different size categories? */

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	Take how bulkhead from the animated series has the two versions of his toy; the one that comes with a headmaster unit is significantly larger than the original. What section should this be discussed in?[[User:Skadooshbag\|Skadooshbag]] ([[User talk:Skadooshbag\|talk]]) 15:12, 31 March 2020 (EDT)		Take how bulkhead from the animated series has the two versions of his toy; the one that comes with a headmaster unit is significantly larger than the original. What section should this be discussed in?[[User:Skadooshbag\|Skadooshbag]] ([[User talk:Skadooshbag\|talk]]) 15:12, 31 March 2020 (EDT)
			:We already have [[Scale#Multiple_scales_of_same_character]]. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 16:40, 31 March 2020 (EDT)

Skadooshbag: /* Characters with more than one version of their toy that're different size categories? */ new section

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	I don't know whether this is the right place for this, but, as someone who's never owned any Transformers toys, I've noticed this wiki doesn't really give me an idea of how big any of them are. For example, how tall is the average Autobot Car? How tall are "Deluxe" or "Mega" toys? How much bigger is a "Large Headmaster" than a "Small Headmaster"? It's really hard to judge without looking for information elsewhere, and a Transformers wiki really should have information like this. --[[User:Flicky1991\|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991\|1991]] 06:46, 2 June 2013 (EDT)		I don't know whether this is the right place for this, but, as someone who's never owned any Transformers toys, I've noticed this wiki doesn't really give me an idea of how big any of them are. For example, how tall is the average Autobot Car? How tall are "Deluxe" or "Mega" toys? How much bigger is a "Large Headmaster" than a "Small Headmaster"? It's really hard to judge without looking for information elsewhere, and a Transformers wiki really should have information like this. --[[User:Flicky1991\|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991\|1991]] 06:46, 2 June 2013 (EDT)

			== Characters with more than one version of their toy that're different size categories? ==

			Take how bulkhead from the animated series has the two versions of his toy; the one that comes with a headmaster unit is significantly larger than the original. What section should this be discussed in?[[User:Skadooshbag\|Skadooshbag]] ([[User talk:Skadooshbag\|talk]]) 15:12, 31 March 2020 (EDT)

Flicky1991: /* Actual toy size */ new section

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	The Snake-Eyes/Optimus Prime main picture doesn't seem like it has much of a scale problem. He looks like he would fit right into the driver's seat of that truck to me. It's not like it is super-exaggerated or anything. - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 21:27, 1 January 2012 (EST)		The Snake-Eyes/Optimus Prime main picture doesn't seem like it has much of a scale problem. He looks like he would fit right into the driver's seat of that truck to me. It's not like it is super-exaggerated or anything. - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 21:27, 1 January 2012 (EST)
	: If the cab is as small as you seem to be thinking it is, then Optimus Prime's head is as large as his own torso. ~--[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:39, 1 January 2012 (EST)		: If the cab is as small as you seem to be thinking it is, then Optimus Prime's head is as large as his own torso. ~--[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:39, 1 January 2012 (EST)

			== Actual toy size ==

			I don't know whether this is the right place for this, but, as someone who's never owned any Transformers toys, I've noticed this wiki doesn't really give me an idea of how big any of them are. For example, how tall is the average Autobot Car? How tall are "Deluxe" or "Mega" toys? How much bigger is a "Large Headmaster" than a "Small Headmaster"? It's really hard to judge without looking for information elsewhere, and a Transformers wiki really should have information like this. --[[User:Flicky1991\|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991\|1991]] 06:46, 2 June 2013 (EDT)

CrowBuster at 21:50, 4 January 2012

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	Energon Omega Supreme is out of scale with himself, one half of him is a construction crane while the other is a space battleship. Just compare the sizes of the 1-2 person train cab against the multi person battleship bridge. Add to that Devastator from ROTF. One of his arms is a giant crane while the other is a small, um, you know, bulldozer thing that isn't a bulldozer.[[Special:Contributions/81.108.237.26\|81.108.237.26]] 09:24, 12 December 2009 (EST)		Energon Omega Supreme is out of scale with himself, one half of him is a construction crane while the other is a space battleship. Just compare the sizes of the 1-2 person train cab against the multi person battleship bridge. Add to that Devastator from ROTF. One of his arms is a giant crane while the other is a small, um, you know, bulldozer thing that isn't a bulldozer.[[Special:Contributions/81.108.237.26\|81.108.237.26]] 09:24, 12 December 2009 (EST)

			Also, there's the fact that vehicles have compartments in them, meaning that a TF that has a, say, car alt-mode will be smaller in robot mode than in vehicle mode. However, most Transformer toys have the limbs and all that crammed into the vehicle, so the robot mode is out of scale with the vehicle mode. even alternator and HA figures can suffer from this, but not as much as others.[[User:CrowBuster\|CrowBuster]] 16:50, 4 January 2012 (EST)CrowBuster
	== Waaaaaaaaaait a minute ==		== Waaaaaaaaaait a minute ==

ItsWalky: /* Snake-Eyes Optimus Prime pic */

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	The Snake-Eyes/Optimus Prime main picture doesn't seem like it has much of a scale problem. He looks like he would fit right into the driver's seat of that truck to me. It's not like it is super-exaggerated or anything. - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 21:27, 1 January 2012 (EST)		The Snake-Eyes/Optimus Prime main picture doesn't seem like it has much of a scale problem. He looks like he would fit right into the driver's seat of that truck to me. It's not like it is super-exaggerated or anything. - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 21:27, 1 January 2012 (EST)
			: If the cab is as small as you seem to be thinking it is, then Optimus Prime's head is as large as his own torso. ~--[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 21:39, 1 January 2012 (EST)

Starfield: /* Snake-Eyes Optimus Prime pic */ new section

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	Great article and I'm not even done reading it yet! One suggestion: The "Implicit Size Changes" section needs some references/examples as I'm not sure what/who you are talking about. Just a little example to illustrate the point. [[User:Shockwave 75\|Shockwave 75]] 19:00, 5 May 2011 (EDT)Shockwave 75		Great article and I'm not even done reading it yet! One suggestion: The "Implicit Size Changes" section needs some references/examples as I'm not sure what/who you are talking about. Just a little example to illustrate the point. [[User:Shockwave 75\|Shockwave 75]] 19:00, 5 May 2011 (EDT)Shockwave 75
	:But... there are a whole bunch of characters named in that section. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 20:13, 5 May 2011 (EDT)		:But... there are a whole bunch of characters named in that section. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 20:13, 5 May 2011 (EDT)

			== Snake-Eyes Optimus Prime pic ==

			The Snake-Eyes/Optimus Prime main picture doesn't seem like it has much of a scale problem. He looks like he would fit right into the driver's seat of that truck to me. It's not like it is super-exaggerated or anything. - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 21:27, 1 January 2012 (EST)

Abates: /* Implicit Size Changes */

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	Great article and I'm not even done reading it yet! One suggestion: The "Implicit Size Changes" section needs some references/examples as I'm not sure what/who you are talking about. Just a little example to illustrate the point. [[User:Shockwave 75\|Shockwave 75]] 19:00, 5 May 2011 (EDT)Shockwave 75		Great article and I'm not even done reading it yet! One suggestion: The "Implicit Size Changes" section needs some references/examples as I'm not sure what/who you are talking about. Just a little example to illustrate the point. [[User:Shockwave 75\|Shockwave 75]] 19:00, 5 May 2011 (EDT)Shockwave 75
			:But... there are a whole bunch of characters named in that section. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 20:13, 5 May 2011 (EDT)

Shockwave 75: /* Implicit Size Changes */

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	Great article and I'm not even done reading it yet! One suggestion: The "Implicit Size Changes" section needs some references/examples as I'm not sure what/who you are talking about. Just a little example to illustrate the point.		Great article and I'm not even done reading it yet! One suggestion: The "Implicit Size Changes" section needs some references/examples as I'm not sure what/who you are talking about. Just a little example to illustrate the point. [[User:Shockwave 75\|Shockwave 75]] 19:00, 5 May 2011 (EDT)Shockwave 75

Shockwave 75: /* Implicit Size Changes */ new section

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	This is in the "Planets" category because.....? --[[User:-Blackout-\|-Blackout-]] 13:16, 26 October 2010 (EDT)		This is in the "Planets" category because.....? --[[User:-Blackout-\|-Blackout-]] 13:16, 26 October 2010 (EDT)
	:I guess because it discusses the scale of Primus and Unicron. But scale is not really a planet, so... --[[User:NCZ\|NCZ]] 13:49, 26 October 2010 (EDT)		:I guess because it discusses the scale of Primus and Unicron. But scale is not really a planet, so... --[[User:NCZ\|NCZ]] 13:49, 26 October 2010 (EDT)

			== Implicit Size Changes ==

			Great article and I'm not even done reading it yet! One suggestion: The "Implicit Size Changes" section needs some references/examples as I'm not sure what/who you are talking about. Just a little example to illustrate the point.