Talk:Size changing - Revision history

Khajidha: /* scientific idea */

2019-03-22T14:30:54Z

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	Yeah, I realized that. Perhaps this is why he is normally wielded by cybertronians? Most humans in the g1 cartoon have uhh, “superhuman” qualities, so for the fact spike and his dad have survived being thrown around and pushed and chip also been jostled around in his wheelchair, it isn’t unfeasable with the other superhuman crap[[User:YourBestPal\|YourBestPal]] ([[User talk:YourBestPal\|talk]]) 10:20, 22 March 2019 (EDT)		Yeah, I realized that. Perhaps this is why he is normally wielded by cybertronians? Most humans in the g1 cartoon have uhh, “superhuman” qualities, so for the fact spike and his dad have survived being thrown around and pushed and chip also been jostled around in his wheelchair, it isn’t unfeasable with the other superhuman crap[[User:YourBestPal\|YourBestPal]] ([[User talk:YourBestPal\|talk]]) 10:20, 22 March 2019 (EDT)
			:The "superhuman Spike" notes aren't meant to be seriously saying that Spike has superhuman strength or durability, they are making fun of the cartoon's "let's not upset the kids by killing anyone" avoidance of humans actually being harmed.--[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 10:30, 22 March 2019 (EDT)

YourBestPal at 14:20, 22 March 2019

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	:If that were the mechanism, then Megatron would maintain his full mass as a handgun and no human would be able to pick him up. Since we've seen humans pick him up in gun mode, your idea doesn't work.--[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 21:26, 21 March 2019 (EDT)		:If that were the mechanism, then Megatron would maintain his full mass as a handgun and no human would be able to pick him up. Since we've seen humans pick him up in gun mode, your idea doesn't work.--[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 21:26, 21 March 2019 (EDT)

			Yeah, I realized that. Perhaps this is why he is normally wielded by cybertronians? Most humans in the g1 cartoon have uhh, “superhuman” qualities, so for the fact spike and his dad have survived being thrown around and pushed and chip also been jostled around in his wheelchair, it isn’t unfeasable with the other superhuman crap[[User:YourBestPal\|YourBestPal]] ([[User talk:YourBestPal\|talk]]) 10:20, 22 March 2019 (EDT)

Khajidha: /* scientific idea */

2019-03-22T01:26:40Z

scientific idea

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	I’m here to explain a theoretical possibility. So, with most earthly objects, including ourself, there is a WHOLE lot of void in between molecules. The electrons are like fan blades, spinning around the molecule. Now, these electrons spin so fast, it’s like a really fast fan. You can’t go through it unless you move really quick, right? In theory, you could compress the entire human race into a box the size of a sugar cube if they moved quickly enough or the electrons for some reason stopped moving. Is it possible, that size changing is just like this? I’m not sure how they could stay small, but if my theory is true, Megatron is easily the densest handgun in the galaxy.		I’m here to explain a theoretical possibility. So, with most earthly objects, including ourself, there is a WHOLE lot of void in between molecules. The electrons are like fan blades, spinning around the molecule. Now, these electrons spin so fast, it’s like a really fast fan. You can’t go through it unless you move really quick, right? In theory, you could compress the entire human race into a box the size of a sugar cube if they moved quickly enough or the electrons for some reason stopped moving. Is it possible, that size changing is just like this? I’m not sure how they could stay small, but if my theory is true, Megatron is easily the densest handgun in the galaxy.
	[[User:YourBestPal\|YourBestPal]] ([[User talk:YourBestPal\|talk]]) 20:57, 21 March 2019 (EDT)		[[User:YourBestPal\|YourBestPal]] ([[User talk:YourBestPal\|talk]]) 20:57, 21 March 2019 (EDT)
			:If that were the mechanism, then Megatron would maintain his full mass as a handgun and no human would be able to pick him up. Since we've seen humans pick him up in gun mode, your idea doesn't work.--[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 21:26, 21 March 2019 (EDT)

YourBestPal at 00:57, 22 March 2019

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	--[[Special:Contributions/190.203.168.31\|190.203.168.31]] 18:28, 25 April 2011 (EDT)		--[[Special:Contributions/190.203.168.31\|190.203.168.31]] 18:28, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
			==scientific idea==
			I’m here to explain a theoretical possibility. So, with most earthly objects, including ourself, there is a WHOLE lot of void in between molecules. The electrons are like fan blades, spinning around the molecule. Now, these electrons spin so fast, it’s like a really fast fan. You can’t go through it unless you move really quick, right? In theory, you could compress the entire human race into a box the size of a sugar cube if they moved quickly enough or the electrons for some reason stopped moving. Is it possible, that size changing is just like this? I’m not sure how they could stay small, but if my theory is true, Megatron is easily the densest handgun in the galaxy.
			[[User:YourBestPal\|YourBestPal]] ([[User talk:YourBestPal\|talk]]) 20:57, 21 March 2019 (EDT)

190.203.168.31: /* WFC Omega Supreme */ new section

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WFC Omega Supreme: new section

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	==Did you mean==		==Did you mean==
	Did you mean in the sense of overall or all-encompassing when writing the following: " ill-defined holistic transformations" ?[[User:ChoHIlqoq\|ChoHIlqoq]] 21:17, 10 November 2007 (UTC)		Did you mean in the sense of overall or all-encompassing when writing the following: " ill-defined holistic transformations" ?[[User:ChoHIlqoq\|ChoHIlqoq]] 21:17, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

			== WFC Omega Supreme ==

			Recently, i've noticed that Omega Supreme appears in Horizon with a mass size changing, also the planes that fly over him are the size as his eye, while on Campaign they grow up to his ankles.

			--[[Special:Contributions/190.203.168.31\|190.203.168.31]] 18:28, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

Smith: /* Possible explanation? */

2011-03-25T21:12:20Z

Possible explanation?

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	I have no reference to back it up, but I am very sure that I read an explanation for the size changing in the Marvel Comics waaay back when. It was in the letters page and someone had asked how Soundwave could be both small enough to be a cassette player and also big enough to hold Megatron as a gun and fire him. The "explanation" given was that they released a "sort of gas" which shrank their molecular structure - totally impossible, obviously. Can anyone back this up? I used to get the comics in the late eighties. [[User:216.239.212.187\|216.239.212.187]] 07:43, 2 October 2007 (UTC)		I have no reference to back it up, but I am very sure that I read an explanation for the size changing in the Marvel Comics waaay back when. It was in the letters page and someone had asked how Soundwave could be both small enough to be a cassette player and also big enough to hold Megatron as a gun and fire him. The "explanation" given was that they released a "sort of gas" which shrank their molecular structure - totally impossible, obviously. Can anyone back this up? I used to get the comics in the late eighties. [[User:216.239.212.187\|216.239.212.187]] 07:43, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

			:: On a similar note, Shockwave's A-Z bio notes that since he was not granted an Earthen form by the Ark he 'remains in a size consistent with his robot mode', implying that size-changing is exclusive to the Auntie-modified Decepticons such as Megatron et al. [[User:Smith\|Smith]] 17:12, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

	==Did you mean==		==Did you mean==
	Did you mean in the sense of overall or all-encompassing when writing the following: " ill-defined holistic transformations" ?[[User:ChoHIlqoq\|ChoHIlqoq]] 21:17, 10 November 2007 (UTC)		Did you mean in the sense of overall or all-encompassing when writing the following: " ill-defined holistic transformations" ?[[User:ChoHIlqoq\|ChoHIlqoq]] 21:17, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Deceptitran: /* Deceptitran import fixes v1.0 */

2009-03-23T04:47:14Z

Deceptitran import fixes v1.0

New page

Subspace is canon now thanks to Binaltech... [[User:69.14.158.214|69.14.158.214]] 23:07, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
:Before we incorporate it, could we have a link to the specific citation? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
::"The "life force" that is the source of a TF's life is propagated through its entire body by a "laser core," which is at the center of a force field. The GT System separately contains this laser core outside the body in subspace storage"
::http://bwtf.com/binaltech/smokescreengt/booklet.shtml
::: But that doesn't have anything to do with size changing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Yes, but the wording makes it seem that every thing about Subspace is un-official, when we know that some aspects of it are indeed official.

Also, what about when Transformers materialize things in their hands from thin air with a flash of light? Like in "Plague of Insecticons", Kickback makes a gun appear in his hand with a bright flash of energy. In the season 3 bumpers, Blurr does the same thing with his gun. I'm sure there are other examples. Anyway to explain that away? "Subspace" or thereabouts seems to be the best explanation. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 00:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
: Those are already addressed in the Fandom explanations section, at the bottom. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

==Scale==
Scale is linked to multiple times in this article. Is this a mistake, or intentional, meant to hammer in a point? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 10:39, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

==Possible explanation?==

I have no reference to back it up, but I am very sure that I read an explanation for the size changing in the Marvel Comics waaay back when. It was in the letters page and someone had asked how Soundwave could be both small enough to be a cassette player and also big enough to hold Megatron as a gun and fire him. The "explanation" given was that they released a "sort of gas" which shrank their molecular structure - totally impossible, obviously. Can anyone back this up? I used to get the comics in the late eighties. [[User:216.239.212.187|216.239.212.187]] 07:43, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

==Did you mean==
Did you mean in the sense of overall or all-encompassing when writing the following: " ill-defined holistic transformations" ?[[User:ChoHIlqoq|ChoHIlqoq]] 21:17, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

216.239.212.187 at 07:43, 2 October 2007

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	==Scale==		==Scale==
	Scale is linked to multiple times in this article. Is this a mistake, or intentional, meant to hammer in a point? --[[User:Sntint\|Sntint]] 10:39, 11 August 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		Scale is linked to multiple times in this article. Is this a mistake, or intentional, meant to hammer in a point? --[[User:Sntint\|Sntint]] 10:39, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

			==Possible explanation?==

			I have no reference to back it up, but I am very sure that I read an explanation for the size changing in the Marvel Comics waaay back when. It was in the letters page and someone had asked how Soundwave could be both small enough to be a cassette player and also big enough to hold Megatron as a gun and fire him. The "explanation" given was that they released a "sort of gas" which shrank their molecular structure - totally impossible, obviously. Can anyone back this up? I used to get the comics in the late eighties. [[User:216.239.212.187\|216.239.212.187]] 07:43, 2 October 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Sntint at 10:39, 11 August 2007

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	Also, what about when Transformers materialize things in their hands from thin air with a flash of light? Like in "Plague of Insecticons", Kickback makes a gun appear in his hand with a bright flash of energy. In the season 3 bumpers, Blurr does the same thing with his gun. I'm sure there are other examples. Anyway to explain that away? "Subspace" or thereabouts seems to be the best explanation. --[[User:DrSpengler\|DrSpengler]] 00:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)		Also, what about when Transformers materialize things in their hands from thin air with a flash of light? Like in "Plague of Insecticons", Kickback makes a gun appear in his hand with a bright flash of energy. In the season 3 bumpers, Blurr does the same thing with his gun. I'm sure there are other examples. Anyway to explain that away? "Subspace" or thereabouts seems to be the best explanation. --[[User:DrSpengler\|DrSpengler]] 00:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
	: Those are already addressed in the Fandom explanations section, at the bottom. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 00:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		: Those are already addressed in the Fandom explanations section, at the bottom. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 00:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

			==Scale==
			Scale is linked to multiple times in this article. Is this a mistake, or intentional, meant to hammer in a point? --[[User:Sntint\|Sntint]] 10:39, 11 August 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

69.14.158.214 at 19:56, 26 January 2007

2007-01-26T19:56:57Z

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	::http://bwtf.com/binaltech/smokescreengt/booklet.shtml		::http://bwtf.com/binaltech/smokescreengt/booklet.shtml
	::: But that doesn't have anything to do with size changing. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)		::: But that doesn't have anything to do with size changing. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
			::::Yes, but the wording makes it seem that every thing about Subspace is un-official, when we know that some aspects of it are indeed official.

	Also, what about when Transformers materialize things in their hands from thin air with a flash of light? Like in "Plague of Insecticons", Kickback makes a gun appear in his hand with a bright flash of energy. In the season 3 bumpers, Blurr does the same thing with his gun. I'm sure there are other examples. Anyway to explain that away? "Subspace" or thereabouts seems to be the best explanation. --[[User:DrSpengler\|DrSpengler]] 00:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)		Also, what about when Transformers materialize things in their hands from thin air with a flash of light? Like in "Plague of Insecticons", Kickback makes a gun appear in his hand with a bright flash of energy. In the season 3 bumpers, Blurr does the same thing with his gun. I'm sure there are other examples. Anyway to explain that away? "Subspace" or thereabouts seems to be the best explanation. --[[User:DrSpengler\|DrSpengler]] 00:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
	: Those are already addressed in the Fandom explanations section, at the bottom. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 00:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		: Those are already addressed in the Fandom explanations section, at the bottom. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 00:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	:If that were the mechanism, then Megatron would maintain his full mass as a handgun and no human would be able to pick him up. Since we've seen humans pick him up in gun mode, your idea doesn't work.--[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 21:26, 21 March 2019 (EDT)		:If that were the mechanism, then Megatron would maintain his full mass as a handgun and no human would be able to pick him up. Since we've seen humans pick him up in gun mode, your idea doesn't work.--[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 21:26, 21 March 2019 (EDT)

			Yeah, I realized that. Perhaps this is why he is normally wielded by cybertronians? Most humans in the g1 cartoon have uhh, “superhuman” qualities, so for the fact spike and his dad have survived being thrown around and pushed and chip also been jostled around in his wheelchair, it isn’t unfeasable with the other superhuman crap[[User:YourBestPal\|YourBestPal]] ([[User talk:YourBestPal\|talk]]) 10:20, 22 March 2019 (EDT)