Talk:Sky Garry (G1) - Revision history

S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 at 03:13, 9 November 2022

2022-11-09T03:13:07Z

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	::[[Hook (G1)\|Hook]] is called "Gren" in Japan, which a Japanese fan once explained to me is actually a traditional (and regional) Japanese misrepresentation of the English word "crane" as "grane". Since we're dealing with the same consonant shift here, is there any chance that "garry" is the same type of weird "that's how our fathers did it" version of the English word "carry"?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 13:36, 22 May 2021 (EDT)		::[[Hook (G1)\|Hook]] is called "Gren" in Japan, which a Japanese fan once explained to me is actually a traditional (and regional) Japanese misrepresentation of the English word "crane" as "grane". Since we're dealing with the same consonant shift here, is there any chance that "garry" is the same type of weird "that's how our fathers did it" version of the English word "carry"?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 13:36, 22 May 2021 (EDT)
	: Is it possible that "Garry" in this context is a diminutive of Garuda, the Hindu bird demigod? References to Garuda seem semi-common in Japanese media (multiple instances from SquareSoft, the Jet Garuda from ''Chojin Sentai Jetman'', to name a few). [[User:ZTS is Very Sorry\|ZTS is Very Sorry]] ([[User talk:ZTS is Very Sorry\|talk]]) 07:11, 8 November 2022 (EST)		: Is it possible that "Garry" in this context is a diminutive of Garuda, the Hindu bird demigod? References to Garuda seem semi-common in Japanese media (multiple instances from SquareSoft, the Jet Garuda from ''Chojin Sentai Jetman'', to name a few). [[User:ZTS is Very Sorry\|ZTS is Very Sorry]] ([[User talk:ZTS is Very Sorry\|talk]]) 07:11, 8 November 2022 (EST)
			:: No, you are thinking in terms of Latinised writing, which is not how it works. スカイギャリー is rendered in Japanese per the rules of copying English, not copying Sanskrit. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 22:13, 8 November 2022 (EST)

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ZTS is Very Sorry: /* Untitled */

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	:That's called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendaku rendaku] and I really don't think that's what they were going for. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:48, 25 February 2013 (EST)		:That's called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendaku rendaku] and I really don't think that's what they were going for. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:48, 25 February 2013 (EST)
	::[[Hook (G1)\|Hook]] is called "Gren" in Japan, which a Japanese fan once explained to me is actually a traditional (and regional) Japanese misrepresentation of the English word "crane" as "grane". Since we're dealing with the same consonant shift here, is there any chance that "garry" is the same type of weird "that's how our fathers did it" version of the English word "carry"?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 13:36, 22 May 2021 (EDT)		::[[Hook (G1)\|Hook]] is called "Gren" in Japan, which a Japanese fan once explained to me is actually a traditional (and regional) Japanese misrepresentation of the English word "crane" as "grane". Since we're dealing with the same consonant shift here, is there any chance that "garry" is the same type of weird "that's how our fathers did it" version of the English word "carry"?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 13:36, 22 May 2021 (EDT)
			: Is it possible that "Garry" in this context is a diminutive of Garuda, the Hindu bird demigod? References to Garuda seem semi-common in Japanese media (multiple instances from SquareSoft, the Jet Garuda from ''Chojin Sentai Jetman'', to name a few). [[User:ZTS is Very Sorry\|ZTS is Very Sorry]] ([[User talk:ZTS is Very Sorry\|talk]]) 07:11, 8 November 2022 (EST)

	==Pre-Release==		==Pre-Release==

Saix: Saix moved page Talk:Sky Garry (ROC) to Talk:Sky Garry (G1): Consensus is to fold into overall G1 franchise

2021-10-19T14:35:35Z

Saix moved page Talk:Sky Garry (ROC) to Talk:Sky Garry (G1): Consensus is to fold into overall G1 franchise

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Saix: clean up, replaced: Big Bang → Big Bang

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clean up, replaced: Big Bang → Big Bang

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			==Untitled==
	Did we ever get an official romanization of this guys' name? Could he be Sky Galley? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 05:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)		Did we ever get an official romanization of this guys' name? Could he be Sky Galley? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 05:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
	: One corner of my brain wants to think somebody said it should be "Sky Carry," and another corner wants to think "Garry" means something relevant that's obscure. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)		: One corner of my brain wants to think somebody said it should be "Sky Carry," and another corner wants to think "Garry" means something relevant that's obscure. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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	::[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/toymerch/hyperdrive.htm No, he's not.] --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 22:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)		::[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/toymerch/hyperdrive.htm No, he's not.] --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 22:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

	Thanks for the info, Monzo. Made [[Big Bang]] an article. --[[User:DrSpengler\|DrSpengler]] 22:39, 18 August 2006 (UTC)		Thanks for the info, Monzo. Made [[Big Bang (G1)\|Big Bang]] an article. --[[User:DrSpengler\|DrSpengler]] 22:39, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

	Shouldn't this be at Sky Garry (ROC) now that other Japanese G1 characters have been moved to similar pages? -[[User:Mazenoise\|Mazenoise]] 18:52, 4 June 2009 (EDT)		Shouldn't this be at Sky Garry (ROC) now that other Japanese G1 characters have been moved to similar pages? -[[User:Mazenoise\|Mazenoise]] 18:52, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Nevermore at 17:36, 22 May 2021

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	A further hypothesis regarding the "carry" <-> "garry" connection: I've noticed that ''voiceless'' consonants like '''kya''' in Japanese are often changed to be ''voiced'' consonants like '''gya''' when they are moved to the middle of a word- in other words, it's only a "kya" if it's at the beginning of the word, and otherwise, it gets a dakuten and becomes "gya". I'm not a student of the Japanese language, so I don't know if this is some kind of firm linguistic rule, but it has held up with a lot of other romanizations i've seen. Considering that his name is parsed as スカイギャリー ("Sukaigyari") without an interpunct/nakaguro, I think that this may just be a case of the words "Sky" and "Carry" being mashed together and modified according to Japanese linguistic standards, rather than an ''accidental'' addition of a dakuten. --[[User:Ayellowbirds\|Ayellowbirds]] 15:50, 25 February 2013 (EST)		A further hypothesis regarding the "carry" <-> "garry" connection: I've noticed that ''voiceless'' consonants like '''kya''' in Japanese are often changed to be ''voiced'' consonants like '''gya''' when they are moved to the middle of a word- in other words, it's only a "kya" if it's at the beginning of the word, and otherwise, it gets a dakuten and becomes "gya". I'm not a student of the Japanese language, so I don't know if this is some kind of firm linguistic rule, but it has held up with a lot of other romanizations i've seen. Considering that his name is parsed as スカイギャリー ("Sukaigyari") without an interpunct/nakaguro, I think that this may just be a case of the words "Sky" and "Carry" being mashed together and modified according to Japanese linguistic standards, rather than an ''accidental'' addition of a dakuten. --[[User:Ayellowbirds\|Ayellowbirds]] 15:50, 25 February 2013 (EST)
	:That's called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendaku rendaku] and I really don't think that's what they were going for. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:48, 25 February 2013 (EST)		:That's called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendaku rendaku] and I really don't think that's what they were going for. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:48, 25 February 2013 (EST)
	::[[Hook (G1)\|Hook]] is called "Gren" in Japan, which a Japanese fan once explained to me is actually a traditional (and regional) Japanese misrepresentation of the English word "crane" as "grane". Since we're dealing with the same consonant ~~sound~~ here, is there any chance that "garry" is the same type of weird "that's how our fathers did it" version of the English word "carry"?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 13:36, 22 May 2021 (EDT)		::[[Hook (G1)\|Hook]] is called "Gren" in Japan, which a Japanese fan once explained to me is actually a traditional (and regional) Japanese misrepresentation of the English word "crane" as "grane". Since we're dealing with the same consonant shift here, is there any chance that "garry" is the same type of weird "that's how our fathers did it" version of the English word "carry"?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 13:36, 22 May 2021 (EDT)

	==Pre-Release==		==Pre-Release==

Nevermore at 17:36, 22 May 2021

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	A further hypothesis regarding the "carry" <-> "garry" connection: I've noticed that ''voiceless'' consonants like '''kya''' in Japanese are often changed to be ''voiced'' consonants like '''gya''' when they are moved to the middle of a word- in other words, it's only a "kya" if it's at the beginning of the word, and otherwise, it gets a dakuten and becomes "gya". I'm not a student of the Japanese language, so I don't know if this is some kind of firm linguistic rule, but it has held up with a lot of other romanizations i've seen. Considering that his name is parsed as スカイギャリー ("Sukaigyari") without an interpunct/nakaguro, I think that this may just be a case of the words "Sky" and "Carry" being mashed together and modified according to Japanese linguistic standards, rather than an ''accidental'' addition of a dakuten. --[[User:Ayellowbirds\|Ayellowbirds]] 15:50, 25 February 2013 (EST)		A further hypothesis regarding the "carry" <-> "garry" connection: I've noticed that ''voiceless'' consonants like '''kya''' in Japanese are often changed to be ''voiced'' consonants like '''gya''' when they are moved to the middle of a word- in other words, it's only a "kya" if it's at the beginning of the word, and otherwise, it gets a dakuten and becomes "gya". I'm not a student of the Japanese language, so I don't know if this is some kind of firm linguistic rule, but it has held up with a lot of other romanizations i've seen. Considering that his name is parsed as スカイギャリー ("Sukaigyari") without an interpunct/nakaguro, I think that this may just be a case of the words "Sky" and "Carry" being mashed together and modified according to Japanese linguistic standards, rather than an ''accidental'' addition of a dakuten. --[[User:Ayellowbirds\|Ayellowbirds]] 15:50, 25 February 2013 (EST)
	:That's called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendaku rendaku] and I really don't think that's what they were going for. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:48, 25 February 2013 (EST)		:That's called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendaku rendaku] and I really don't think that's what they were going for. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:48, 25 February 2013 (EST)
	::[[Hook (G1)Hook]] is called "Gren" in Japan, which a Japanese fan once explained to me is actually a traditional (and regional) Japanese misrepresentation of the English word "crane" as "grane". Since we're dealing with the same consonant sound here, is there any chance that "garry" is the same type of weird "that's how our fathers did it" version of the English word "carry"?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 13:36, 22 May 2021 (EDT)		::[[Hook (G1)\|Hook]] is called "Gren" in Japan, which a Japanese fan once explained to me is actually a traditional (and regional) Japanese misrepresentation of the English word "crane" as "grane". Since we're dealing with the same consonant sound here, is there any chance that "garry" is the same type of weird "that's how our fathers did it" version of the English word "carry"?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 13:36, 22 May 2021 (EDT)

	==Pre-Release==		==Pre-Release==

Nevermore at 17:36, 22 May 2021

2021-05-22T17:36:02Z

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	A further hypothesis regarding the "carry" <-> "garry" connection: I've noticed that ''voiceless'' consonants like '''kya''' in Japanese are often changed to be ''voiced'' consonants like '''gya''' when they are moved to the middle of a word- in other words, it's only a "kya" if it's at the beginning of the word, and otherwise, it gets a dakuten and becomes "gya". I'm not a student of the Japanese language, so I don't know if this is some kind of firm linguistic rule, but it has held up with a lot of other romanizations i've seen. Considering that his name is parsed as スカイギャリー ("Sukaigyari") without an interpunct/nakaguro, I think that this may just be a case of the words "Sky" and "Carry" being mashed together and modified according to Japanese linguistic standards, rather than an ''accidental'' addition of a dakuten. --[[User:Ayellowbirds\|Ayellowbirds]] 15:50, 25 February 2013 (EST)		A further hypothesis regarding the "carry" <-> "garry" connection: I've noticed that ''voiceless'' consonants like '''kya''' in Japanese are often changed to be ''voiced'' consonants like '''gya''' when they are moved to the middle of a word- in other words, it's only a "kya" if it's at the beginning of the word, and otherwise, it gets a dakuten and becomes "gya". I'm not a student of the Japanese language, so I don't know if this is some kind of firm linguistic rule, but it has held up with a lot of other romanizations i've seen. Considering that his name is parsed as スカイギャリー ("Sukaigyari") without an interpunct/nakaguro, I think that this may just be a case of the words "Sky" and "Carry" being mashed together and modified according to Japanese linguistic standards, rather than an ''accidental'' addition of a dakuten. --[[User:Ayellowbirds\|Ayellowbirds]] 15:50, 25 February 2013 (EST)
	:That's called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendaku rendaku] and I really don't think that's what they were going for. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:48, 25 February 2013 (EST)		:That's called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendaku rendaku] and I really don't think that's what they were going for. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:48, 25 February 2013 (EST)
			::[[Hook (G1)Hook]] is called "Gren" in Japan, which a Japanese fan once explained to me is actually a traditional (and regional) Japanese misrepresentation of the English word "crane" as "grane". Since we're dealing with the same consonant sound here, is there any chance that "garry" is the same type of weird "that's how our fathers did it" version of the English word "carry"?--[[User:Nevermore\|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore\|talk]]) 13:36, 22 May 2021 (EDT)

	==Pre-Release==		==Pre-Release==

Khajidha: /* Number of stickers */

2019-04-11T15:08:17Z

Number of stickers

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	:Bumping this up to see if anyone can figure out this new math. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 14:01, 13 May 2016 (EDT)		:Bumping this up to see if anyone can figure out this new math. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 14:01, 13 May 2016 (EDT)
	::One more time. I have cut this from the page until someone can correct the numbers. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 11:35, 22 February 2018 (EST)		::One more time. I have cut this from the page until someone can correct the numbers. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 11:35, 22 February 2018 (EST)
			:::HELLO?!?!?!!?? Anybody have a clue what needs to be changed here?--[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 11:08, 11 April 2019 (EDT)

Khajidha: /* Number of stickers */

2018-02-22T16:35:30Z

Number of stickers

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	"Sky Garry's sticker sheet contained a phenomenal 65 decals — not including the 4 optional star decals that one could apply anywhere on the Battlestars. Only 5 of those decals were for Shotbomber, 5 more were for the Micro Trailer, the other 50 were applied to Sky Garry. This gave Sky Garry 53 labels (including the three factory-applied ones), providing him much of his colour and detail." There's 5 stickers unaccounted for here (50 + 5 + 5 = 60, not 65). --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 10:19, 16 August 2011 (EDT)		"Sky Garry's sticker sheet contained a phenomenal 65 decals — not including the 4 optional star decals that one could apply anywhere on the Battlestars. Only 5 of those decals were for Shotbomber, 5 more were for the Micro Trailer, the other 50 were applied to Sky Garry. This gave Sky Garry 53 labels (including the three factory-applied ones), providing him much of his colour and detail." There's 5 stickers unaccounted for here (50 + 5 + 5 = 60, not 65). --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 10:19, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
	:Bumping this up to see if anyone can figure out this new math. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 14:01, 13 May 2016 (EDT)		:Bumping this up to see if anyone can figure out this new math. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 14:01, 13 May 2016 (EDT)
			::One more time. I have cut this from the page until someone can correct the numbers. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 11:35, 22 February 2018 (EST)

Khajidha: /* Number of stickers */Somebody needs to check the math

2016-05-13T18:01:05Z

Number of stickers: Somebody needs to check the math

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	"Sky Garry's sticker sheet contained a phenomenal 65 decals — not including the 4 optional star decals that one could apply anywhere on the Battlestars. Only 5 of those decals were for Shotbomber, 5 more were for the Micro Trailer, the other 50 were applied to Sky Garry. This gave Sky Garry 53 labels (including the three factory-applied ones), providing him much of his colour and detail." There's 5 stickers unaccounted for here (50 + 5 + 5 = 60, not 65). --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 10:19, 16 August 2011 (EDT)		"Sky Garry's sticker sheet contained a phenomenal 65 decals — not including the 4 optional star decals that one could apply anywhere on the Battlestars. Only 5 of those decals were for Shotbomber, 5 more were for the Micro Trailer, the other 50 were applied to Sky Garry. This gave Sky Garry 53 labels (including the three factory-applied ones), providing him much of his colour and detail." There's 5 stickers unaccounted for here (50 + 5 + 5 = 60, not 65). --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 10:19, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
			:Bumping this up to see if anyone can figure out this new math. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 14:01, 13 May 2016 (EDT)

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			==Untitled==
	Did we ever get an official romanization of this guys' name? Could he be Sky Galley? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 05:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)		Did we ever get an official romanization of this guys' name? Could he be Sky Galley? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 05:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
	: One corner of my brain wants to think somebody said it should be "Sky Carry," and another corner wants to think "Garry" means something relevant that's obscure. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)		: One corner of my brain wants to think somebody said it should be "Sky Carry," and another corner wants to think "Garry" means something relevant that's obscure. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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	::[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/toymerch/hyperdrive.htm No, he's not.] --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 22:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)		::[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/jhiaxus/toymerch/hyperdrive.htm No, he's not.] --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 22:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

	Thanks for the info, Monzo. Made [[Big Bang]] an article. --[[User:DrSpengler\|DrSpengler]] 22:39, 18 August 2006 (UTC)		Thanks for the info, Monzo. Made [[Big Bang (G1)\|Big Bang]] an article. --[[User:DrSpengler\|DrSpengler]] 22:39, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

	Shouldn't this be at Sky Garry (ROC) now that other Japanese G1 characters have been moved to similar pages? -[[User:Mazenoise\|Mazenoise]] 18:52, 4 June 2009 (EDT)		Shouldn't this be at Sky Garry (ROC) now that other Japanese G1 characters have been moved to similar pages? -[[User:Mazenoise\|Mazenoise]] 18:52, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

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	:Bumping this up to see if anyone can figure out this new math. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 14:01, 13 May 2016 (EDT)		:Bumping this up to see if anyone can figure out this new math. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 14:01, 13 May 2016 (EDT)
	::One more time. I have cut this from the page until someone can correct the numbers. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 11:35, 22 February 2018 (EST)		::One more time. I have cut this from the page until someone can correct the numbers. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 11:35, 22 February 2018 (EST)
			:::HELLO?!?!?!!?? Anybody have a clue what needs to be changed here?--[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 11:08, 11 April 2019 (EDT)

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	"Sky Garry's sticker sheet contained a phenomenal 65 decals — not including the 4 optional star decals that one could apply anywhere on the Battlestars. Only 5 of those decals were for Shotbomber, 5 more were for the Micro Trailer, the other 50 were applied to Sky Garry. This gave Sky Garry 53 labels (including the three factory-applied ones), providing him much of his colour and detail." There's 5 stickers unaccounted for here (50 + 5 + 5 = 60, not 65). --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 10:19, 16 August 2011 (EDT)		"Sky Garry's sticker sheet contained a phenomenal 65 decals — not including the 4 optional star decals that one could apply anywhere on the Battlestars. Only 5 of those decals were for Shotbomber, 5 more were for the Micro Trailer, the other 50 were applied to Sky Garry. This gave Sky Garry 53 labels (including the three factory-applied ones), providing him much of his colour and detail." There's 5 stickers unaccounted for here (50 + 5 + 5 = 60, not 65). --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 10:19, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
	:Bumping this up to see if anyone can figure out this new math. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 14:01, 13 May 2016 (EDT)		:Bumping this up to see if anyone can figure out this new math. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 14:01, 13 May 2016 (EDT)
			::One more time. I have cut this from the page until someone can correct the numbers. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 11:35, 22 February 2018 (EST)