Talk:Smashdown - Revision history

Saix: clean up, replaced: Wrecker → Wrecker

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clean up, replaced: Wrecker → Wrecker

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			==Untitled==
	I'm putting this guy as an autobot; though, I'm not sure what he is. I'm going off that fact that his wavemate is a Decepticon, and that he's pictured being used by Springer. Please update if this is incorrect.[[User:Loon\|Loon]] ([[User talk:Loon\|talk]]) 04:34, 16 February 2019 (EST)Loon		I'm putting this guy as an autobot; though, I'm not sure what he is. I'm going off that fact that his wavemate is a Decepticon, and that he's pictured being used by Springer. Please update if this is incorrect.[[User:Loon\|Loon]] ([[User talk:Loon\|talk]]) 04:34, 16 February 2019 (EST)Loon
	:If we don't know his faction, it's okay to just not specify one until we do. We shouldn't ever be presenting guesswork as fact, y'know? [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 04:40, 16 February 2019 (EST)		:If we don't know his faction, it's okay to just not specify one until we do. We shouldn't ever be presenting guesswork as fact, y'know? [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 04:40, 16 February 2019 (EST)
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	== Mascot of the Wreckers? ==		== Mascot of the Wreckers? ==

	This article says Smashdown is the mascot of the Wreckers, with a reference to a Hasbro presentation at New York [[Toy Fair 2019]], but nothing at the linked page mentions Smashdown or the Wreckers, and Smashdown isn't mentioned on the [[Wrecker]] page either. So what does this mean exactly? Is Smashdown just the mascot because they transform into a hammer, and there's a (differently-shaped) hammer in the Wreckers' logo? Has Smashdown ever appeared in fiction about the Wreckers? What exactly did someone say about this at Toy Fair 2019? [[User:Phil Bond\|Phil Bond]] ([[User talk:Phil Bond\|talk]]) 16:29, 19 March 2020 (EDT)		This article says Smashdown is the mascot of the Wreckers, with a reference to a Hasbro presentation at New York [[Toy Fair 2019]], but nothing at the linked page mentions Smashdown or the Wreckers, and Smashdown isn't mentioned on the [[Wreckers\|Wrecker]] page either. So what does this mean exactly? Is Smashdown just the mascot because they transform into a hammer, and there's a (differently-shaped) hammer in the Wreckers' logo? Has Smashdown ever appeared in fiction about the Wreckers? What exactly did someone say about this at Toy Fair 2019? [[User:Phil Bond\|Phil Bond]] ([[User talk:Phil Bond\|talk]]) 16:29, 19 March 2020 (EDT)

Bass X0: /* Not sure about "undocumented feature" */

2020-04-04T16:33:43Z

Not sure about "undocumented feature"

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	What the toy description lists as an undocumented feature does not actually appear to be an intentional design choice. It does not seem to fit very well and causes the handle to bend. Snapping it into the slot on the back to form a "tail" also has a rather "final" feel to it, as if it's not intended to be repeatedly attached and detached. So that it kind of fits under the left arm appears to be a coincidence more than anything, whereas most actual undocumented features are intentional but not pointed out in at least one region's instructions (usually Hasbro's). --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 14:34, 16 September 2019 (EDT)		What the toy description lists as an undocumented feature does not actually appear to be an intentional design choice. It does not seem to fit very well and causes the handle to bend. Snapping it into the slot on the back to form a "tail" also has a rather "final" feel to it, as if it's not intended to be repeatedly attached and detached. So that it kind of fits under the left arm appears to be a coincidence more than anything, whereas most actual undocumented features are intentional but not pointed out in at least one region's instructions (usually Hasbro's). --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 14:34, 16 September 2019 (EDT)
			: He can also hold the handle in his fist. [[User:Bass X0\|Bass X0]] ([[User talk:Bass X0\|talk]]) 12:33, 4 April 2020 (EDT)

	== Mascot of the Wreckers? ==		== Mascot of the Wreckers? ==

	This article says Smashdown is the mascot of the Wreckers, with a reference to a Hasbro presentation at New York [[Toy Fair 2019]], but nothing at the linked page mentions Smashdown or the Wreckers, and Smashdown isn't mentioned on the [[Wrecker]] page either. So what does this mean exactly? Is Smashdown just the mascot because they transform into a hammer, and there's a (differently-shaped) hammer in the Wreckers' logo? Has Smashdown ever appeared in fiction about the Wreckers? What exactly did someone say about this at Toy Fair 2019? [[User:Phil Bond\|Phil Bond]] ([[User talk:Phil Bond\|talk]]) 16:29, 19 March 2020 (EDT)		This article says Smashdown is the mascot of the Wreckers, with a reference to a Hasbro presentation at New York [[Toy Fair 2019]], but nothing at the linked page mentions Smashdown or the Wreckers, and Smashdown isn't mentioned on the [[Wrecker]] page either. So what does this mean exactly? Is Smashdown just the mascot because they transform into a hammer, and there's a (differently-shaped) hammer in the Wreckers' logo? Has Smashdown ever appeared in fiction about the Wreckers? What exactly did someone say about this at Toy Fair 2019? [[User:Phil Bond\|Phil Bond]] ([[User talk:Phil Bond\|talk]]) 16:29, 19 March 2020 (EDT)

Phil Bond: /* Mascot of the Wreckers? */ new section

2020-03-19T20:29:44Z

Mascot of the Wreckers?: new section

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	What the toy description lists as an undocumented feature does not actually appear to be an intentional design choice. It does not seem to fit very well and causes the handle to bend. Snapping it into the slot on the back to form a "tail" also has a rather "final" feel to it, as if it's not intended to be repeatedly attached and detached. So that it kind of fits under the left arm appears to be a coincidence more than anything, whereas most actual undocumented features are intentional but not pointed out in at least one region's instructions (usually Hasbro's). --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 14:34, 16 September 2019 (EDT)		What the toy description lists as an undocumented feature does not actually appear to be an intentional design choice. It does not seem to fit very well and causes the handle to bend. Snapping it into the slot on the back to form a "tail" also has a rather "final" feel to it, as if it's not intended to be repeatedly attached and detached. So that it kind of fits under the left arm appears to be a coincidence more than anything, whereas most actual undocumented features are intentional but not pointed out in at least one region's instructions (usually Hasbro's). --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 14:34, 16 September 2019 (EDT)

			== Mascot of the Wreckers? ==

			This article says Smashdown is the mascot of the Wreckers, with a reference to a Hasbro presentation at New York [[Toy Fair 2019]], but nothing at the linked page mentions Smashdown or the Wreckers, and Smashdown isn't mentioned on the [[Wrecker]] page either. So what does this mean exactly? Is Smashdown just the mascot because they transform into a hammer, and there's a (differently-shaped) hammer in the Wreckers' logo? Has Smashdown ever appeared in fiction about the Wreckers? What exactly did someone say about this at Toy Fair 2019? [[User:Phil Bond\|Phil Bond]] ([[User talk:Phil Bond\|talk]]) 16:29, 19 March 2020 (EDT)

Escargon at 23:05, 9 November 2019

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	:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)
	::Do we have a policy for gender of characters when it's not definitively established? I figured we'd default to neutral.[[User:Wheelbug\|Wheelbug]] ([[User talk:Wheelbug\|talk]]) 20:54, 9 July 2019 (EDT)		::Do we have a policy for gender of characters when it's not definitively established? I figured we'd default to neutral.[[User:Wheelbug\|Wheelbug]] ([[User talk:Wheelbug\|talk]]) 20:54, 9 July 2019 (EDT)
	He's clearly male (as much as such can be applied to a non-sexual alien robot). He's a robotic minotaur which is a humanoid bull. Bulls are all male (otherwise they'd be cows, which are not a very intimidating thing for a space robot to take the form of...) I dunno what TCG folk are smoking.16:45, 9 November 2019 (EST) {{unsigned}}		He's clearly male (as much as such can be applied to a non-sexual alien robot). He's a robotic minotaur which is a humanoid bull. Bulls are all male (otherwise they'd be cows, which are not a very intimidating thing for a space robot to take the form of...) I dunno what TCG folk are smoking.16:45, 9 November 2019 (EST) {{unsigned\|User:Tbb033}}
	:You say that as if Smashdown A: has to follow the idea of what a Earth cow/bull is and B: doesn't predate the idea of a minotaur by a few million years. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 18:05, 9 November 2019 (EST)		:You say that as if Smashdown A: has to follow the idea of what a Earth cow/bull is and B: doesn't predate the idea of a minotaur by a few million years. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 18:05, 9 November 2019 (EST)

Escargon at 23:05, 9 November 2019

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	:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)
	::Do we have a policy for gender of characters when it's not definitively established? I figured we'd default to neutral.[[User:Wheelbug\|Wheelbug]] ([[User talk:Wheelbug\|talk]]) 20:54, 9 July 2019 (EDT)		::Do we have a policy for gender of characters when it's not definitively established? I figured we'd default to neutral.[[User:Wheelbug\|Wheelbug]] ([[User talk:Wheelbug\|talk]]) 20:54, 9 July 2019 (EDT)
	He's clearly male (as much as such can be applied to a non-sexual alien robot). He's a robotic minotaur which is a humanoid bull. Bulls are all male (otherwise they'd be cows, which are not a very intimidating thing for a space robot to take the form of...) I dunno what TCG folk are smoking.16:45, 9 November 2019 (EST)		He's clearly male (as much as such can be applied to a non-sexual alien robot). He's a robotic minotaur which is a humanoid bull. Bulls are all male (otherwise they'd be cows, which are not a very intimidating thing for a space robot to take the form of...) I dunno what TCG folk are smoking.16:45, 9 November 2019 (EST) {{unsigned}}
			:You say that as if Smashdown A: has to follow the idea of what a Earth cow/bull is and B: doesn't predate the idea of a minotaur by a few million years. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 18:05, 9 November 2019 (EST)

	== Not sure about "undocumented feature" ==		== Not sure about "undocumented feature" ==

	What the toy description lists as an undocumented feature does not actually appear to be an intentional design choice. It does not seem to fit very well and causes the handle to bend. Snapping it into the slot on the back to form a "tail" also has a rather "final" feel to it, as if it's not intended to be repeatedly attached and detached. So that it kind of fits under the left arm appears to be a coincidence more than anything, whereas most actual undocumented features are intentional but not pointed out in at least one region's instructions (usually Hasbro's). --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 14:34, 16 September 2019 (EDT)		What the toy description lists as an undocumented feature does not actually appear to be an intentional design choice. It does not seem to fit very well and causes the handle to bend. Snapping it into the slot on the back to form a "tail" also has a rather "final" feel to it, as if it's not intended to be repeatedly attached and detached. So that it kind of fits under the left arm appears to be a coincidence more than anything, whereas most actual undocumented features are intentional but not pointed out in at least one region's instructions (usually Hasbro's). --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 14:34, 16 September 2019 (EDT)

Tbb033 at 21:45, 9 November 2019

2019-11-09T21:45:35Z

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	:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)
	::Do we have a policy for gender of characters when it's not definitively established? I figured we'd default to neutral.[[User:Wheelbug\|Wheelbug]] ([[User talk:Wheelbug\|talk]]) 20:54, 9 July 2019 (EDT)		::Do we have a policy for gender of characters when it's not definitively established? I figured we'd default to neutral.[[User:Wheelbug\|Wheelbug]] ([[User talk:Wheelbug\|talk]]) 20:54, 9 July 2019 (EDT)
			He's clearly male (as much as such can be applied to a non-sexual alien robot). He's a robotic minotaur which is a humanoid bull. Bulls are all male (otherwise they'd be cows, which are not a very intimidating thing for a space robot to take the form of...) I dunno what TCG folk are smoking.16:45, 9 November 2019 (EST)

	== Not sure about "undocumented feature" ==		== Not sure about "undocumented feature" ==

	What the toy description lists as an undocumented feature does not actually appear to be an intentional design choice. It does not seem to fit very well and causes the handle to bend. Snapping it into the slot on the back to form a "tail" also has a rather "final" feel to it, as if it's not intended to be repeatedly attached and detached. So that it kind of fits under the left arm appears to be a coincidence more than anything, whereas most actual undocumented features are intentional but not pointed out in at least one region's instructions (usually Hasbro's). --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 14:34, 16 September 2019 (EDT)		What the toy description lists as an undocumented feature does not actually appear to be an intentional design choice. It does not seem to fit very well and causes the handle to bend. Snapping it into the slot on the back to form a "tail" also has a rather "final" feel to it, as if it's not intended to be repeatedly attached and detached. So that it kind of fits under the left arm appears to be a coincidence more than anything, whereas most actual undocumented features are intentional but not pointed out in at least one region's instructions (usually Hasbro's). --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 14:34, 16 September 2019 (EDT)

King Starscream: /* Not sure about "undocumented feature" */ new section

2019-09-16T18:34:16Z

Not sure about "undocumented feature": new section

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	:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)
	::Do we have a policy for gender of characters when it's not definitively established? I figured we'd default to neutral.[[User:Wheelbug\|Wheelbug]] ([[User talk:Wheelbug\|talk]]) 20:54, 9 July 2019 (EDT)		::Do we have a policy for gender of characters when it's not definitively established? I figured we'd default to neutral.[[User:Wheelbug\|Wheelbug]] ([[User talk:Wheelbug\|talk]]) 20:54, 9 July 2019 (EDT)

			== Not sure about "undocumented feature" ==

			What the toy description lists as an undocumented feature does not actually appear to be an intentional design choice. It does not seem to fit very well and causes the handle to bend. Snapping it into the slot on the back to form a "tail" also has a rather "final" feel to it, as if it's not intended to be repeatedly attached and detached. So that it kind of fits under the left arm appears to be a coincidence more than anything, whereas most actual undocumented features are intentional but not pointed out in at least one region's instructions (usually Hasbro's). --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 14:34, 16 September 2019 (EDT)

Wheelbug: gender discussion

2019-07-10T00:54:16Z

gender discussion

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	Smashdown is male. Monzo added the info to this page months ago because he was present to see Hasbro's presentation at NYTF. [https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/1099120284983013376] [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 18:42, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		Smashdown is male. Monzo added the info to this page months ago because he was present to see Hasbro's presentation at NYTF. [https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/1099120284983013376] [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 18:42, 8 July 2019 (EDT)
	:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)
			::Do we have a policy for gender of characters when it's not definitively established? I figured we'd default to neutral.[[User:Wheelbug\|Wheelbug]] ([[User talk:Wheelbug\|talk]]) 20:54, 9 July 2019 (EDT)

Escargon at 23:03, 8 July 2019

2019-07-08T23:03:56Z

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	Smashdown is male. Monzo added the info to this page months ago because he was present to see Hasbro's presentation at NYTF. [https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/1099120284983013376] [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 18:42, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		Smashdown is male. Monzo added the info to this page months ago because he was present to see Hasbro's presentation at NYTF. [https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/1099120284983013376] [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 18:42, 8 July 2019 (EDT)
			:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)

S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 at 22:42, 8 July 2019

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	On this guy and caliburst, I updated the info to show that they are [[Battle Master\|Battle Masters]], the current line; not [[Battle Masters]], the "rock 'em sock 'em" style line, that they were linking to.[[User:Loon\|Loon]] ([[User talk:Loon\|talk]]) 15:52, 16 February 2019 (EST)Loon		On this guy and caliburst, I updated the info to show that they are [[Battle Master\|Battle Masters]], the current line; not [[Battle Masters]], the "rock 'em sock 'em" style line, that they were linking to.[[User:Loon\|Loon]] ([[User talk:Loon\|talk]]) 15:52, 16 February 2019 (EST)Loon

			Smashdown is male. Monzo added the info to this page months ago because he was present to see Hasbro's presentation at NYTF. [https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/1099120284983013376] [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 18:42, 8 July 2019 (EDT)

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	:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)
	::Do we have a policy for gender of characters when it's not definitively established? I figured we'd default to neutral.[[User:Wheelbug\|Wheelbug]] ([[User talk:Wheelbug\|talk]]) 20:54, 9 July 2019 (EDT)		::Do we have a policy for gender of characters when it's not definitively established? I figured we'd default to neutral.[[User:Wheelbug\|Wheelbug]] ([[User talk:Wheelbug\|talk]]) 20:54, 9 July 2019 (EDT)
	He's clearly male (as much as such can be applied to a non-sexual alien robot). He's a robotic minotaur which is a humanoid bull. Bulls are all male (otherwise they'd be cows, which are not a very intimidating thing for a space robot to take the form of...) I dunno what TCG folk are smoking.16:45, 9 November 2019 (EST) {{unsigned}}		He's clearly male (as much as such can be applied to a non-sexual alien robot). He's a robotic minotaur which is a humanoid bull. Bulls are all male (otherwise they'd be cows, which are not a very intimidating thing for a space robot to take the form of...) I dunno what TCG folk are smoking.16:45, 9 November 2019 (EST) {{unsigned\|User:Tbb033}}
	:You say that as if Smashdown A: has to follow the idea of what a Earth cow/bull is and B: doesn't predate the idea of a minotaur by a few million years. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 18:05, 9 November 2019 (EST)		:You say that as if Smashdown A: has to follow the idea of what a Earth cow/bull is and B: doesn't predate the idea of a minotaur by a few million years. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 18:05, 9 November 2019 (EST)

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	Smashdown is male. Monzo added the info to this page months ago because he was present to see Hasbro's presentation at NYTF. [https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/1099120284983013376] [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 18:42, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		Smashdown is male. Monzo added the info to this page months ago because he was present to see Hasbro's presentation at NYTF. [https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/1099120284983013376] [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47\|talk]]) 18:42, 8 July 2019 (EDT)
	:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)		:And yet, the TCG folk say she’s female, according to Vangelus. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 19:03, 8 July 2019 (EDT)
			::Do we have a policy for gender of characters when it's not definitively established? I figured we'd default to neutral.[[User:Wheelbug\|Wheelbug]] ([[User talk:Wheelbug\|talk]]) 20:54, 9 July 2019 (EDT)