Talk:Smolder (PCC) - Revision history

Saix: /* Untitled */clean up, replaced: Discharge (OC) → Discharge (G1)

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Untitled: clean up, replaced: Discharge (OC) → Discharge (G1)

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	Is it just me, or out of the many, many Transformers firetrucks is this the only one that's a Decepticon? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] 15:56, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		Is it just me, or out of the many, many Transformers firetrucks is this the only one that's a Decepticon? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] 15:56, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	:Pretty much. I assume Hasbro made a conscious effort to avoid having any Decepticon rescue vehicles until the movie used Barricade. - [[User:Cattleprod\|Cattleprod]] 16:09, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		:Pretty much. I assume Hasbro made a conscious effort to avoid having any Decepticon rescue vehicles until the movie used Barricade. - [[User:Cattleprod\|Cattleprod]] 16:09, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	::[[Suppressor (Universe)\|Suppressor]] is a haz-mat redeco of a firetruck. So close. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:49, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		::[[Suppressor (Universe)\|Suppressor]] is a haz-mat redeco of a firetruck. So close. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:49, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	:[[Discharge (OC)\|Reverse Evolution Discharge]] is a Decepticon firetruck, but I'd be hesitant to count her since she's just regular Discharge turned temporarily evil. Like putting Dark Designs Rhinox on a list of Predacons. --[[User:Andrusi\|Andrusi]] 16:04, 17 July 2010 (EDT)		:[[Discharge (G1)\|Reverse Evolution Discharge]] is a Decepticon firetruck, but I'd be hesitant to count her since she's just regular Discharge turned temporarily evil. Like putting Dark Designs Rhinox on a list of Predacons. --[[User:Andrusi\|Andrusi]] 16:04, 17 July 2010 (EDT)
	I like his "Combined Mode" head alot better than his normal one.[[User:TOM\|TOM]] 15:11, 7 July 2010 (EDT)		I like his "Combined Mode" head alot better than his normal one.[[User:TOM\|TOM]] 15:11, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47: S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 moved page Talk:Smolder to Talk:Smolder (PCC)

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S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 moved page Talk:Smolder to Talk:Smolder (PCC)

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TBR at 07:11, 10 October 2018

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	:Pretty much. I assume Hasbro made a conscious effort to avoid having any Decepticon rescue vehicles until the movie used Barricade. - [[User:Cattleprod\|Cattleprod]] 16:09, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		:Pretty much. I assume Hasbro made a conscious effort to avoid having any Decepticon rescue vehicles until the movie used Barricade. - [[User:Cattleprod\|Cattleprod]] 16:09, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	::[[Suppressor (Universe)\|Suppressor]] is a haz-mat redeco of a firetruck. So close. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:49, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		::[[Suppressor (Universe)\|Suppressor]] is a haz-mat redeco of a firetruck. So close. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:49, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	:[[Discharge\|Reverse Evolution Discharge]] is a Decepticon firetruck, but I'd be hesitant to count her since she's just regular Discharge turned temporarily evil. Like putting Dark Designs Rhinox on a list of Predacons. --[[User:Andrusi\|Andrusi]] 16:04, 17 July 2010 (EDT)		:[[Discharge (OC)\|Reverse Evolution Discharge]] is a Decepticon firetruck, but I'd be hesitant to count her since she's just regular Discharge turned temporarily evil. Like putting Dark Designs Rhinox on a list of Predacons. --[[User:Andrusi\|Andrusi]] 16:04, 17 July 2010 (EDT)
	I like his "Combined Mode" head alot better than his normal one.[[User:TOM\|TOM]] 15:11, 7 July 2010 (EDT)		I like his "Combined Mode" head alot better than his normal one.[[User:TOM\|TOM]] 15:11, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

Saix: Saix moved page Talk:Smolder (PCC) to Talk:Smolder

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Saix moved page Talk:Smolder (PCC) to Talk:Smolder

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Escargon: Escargon moved page Talk:Smolder to Talk:Smolder (PCC): Kre-O one.

2014-04-16T18:46:15Z

Escargon moved page Talk:Smolder to Talk:Smolder (PCC): Kre-O one.

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LV: /* Movie Continuity? */

2011-07-29T22:30:00Z

Movie Continuity?

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	[[User:SteamPunk Astrotrain\|SteamPunk Astrotrain]] 16:23, 29 July 2011 (EDT)		[[User:SteamPunk Astrotrain\|SteamPunk Astrotrain]] 16:23, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
	:On the other hand, the answer from the Q&A is author intent... while fiction and preceeding/subsequent toys have established Icepick, Salvage and Leadfoot as being part of the live-action franchise. Doesn't actual fiction (which includes toy bios) typically trump authorial intent? --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 16:34, 29 July 2011 (EDT)		:On the other hand, the answer from the Q&A is author intent... while fiction and preceeding/subsequent toys have established Icepick, Salvage and Leadfoot as being part of the live-action franchise. Doesn't actual fiction (which includes toy bios) typically trump authorial intent? --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 16:34, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
			::Yes. At this point, with Smolder not some kind of weird outlier as clearly part of the Movie universe, it's time for his page to join us in 2011. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 18:29, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

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2011-07-29T20:34:30Z

Movie Continuity?

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	I'm just going to add a quick note to the bottom of the page, regarding Smolder's appearance in the Cyber Mission, because there is a logical counter-argument that does explain why he was in the one Cyber Mission, even though he's not in the movie continuity.		I'm just going to add a quick note to the bottom of the page, regarding Smolder's appearance in the Cyber Mission, because there is a logical counter-argument that does explain why he was in the one Cyber Mission, even though he's not in the movie continuity.
	[[User:SteamPunk Astrotrain\|SteamPunk Astrotrain]] 16:23, 29 July 2011 (EDT)		[[User:SteamPunk Astrotrain\|SteamPunk Astrotrain]] 16:23, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
			:On the other hand, the answer from the Q&A is author intent... while fiction and preceeding/subsequent toys have established Icepick, Salvage and Leadfoot as being part of the live-action franchise. Doesn't actual fiction (which includes toy bios) typically trump authorial intent? --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 16:34, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

SteamPunk Astrotrain at 20:23, 29 July 2011

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	:::I'm inclined to say that if Smolder had shown up in the background of Spotlight: Drift, PCCs would have been dumped into the G1iverse basically immediately, but that's neither here nor there. But now with Hasbro's official Q&A word being that PCC don't belong to any continuity, I think the time for that note has passed.		:::I'm inclined to say that if Smolder had shown up in the background of Spotlight: Drift, PCCs would have been dumped into the G1iverse basically immediately, but that's neither here nor there. But now with Hasbro's official Q&A word being that PCC don't belong to any continuity, I think the time for that note has passed.
	:::PS Also let's pretend Salvage isn't Salvage while we're at it, Hasbro. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 23:49, 16 December 2010 (EST)		:::PS Also let's pretend Salvage isn't Salvage while we're at it, Hasbro. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 23:49, 16 December 2010 (EST)

			I'm just going to add a quick note to the bottom of the page, regarding Smolder's appearance in the Cyber Mission, because there is a logical counter-argument that does explain why he was in the one Cyber Mission, even though he's not in the movie continuity.
			[[User:SteamPunk Astrotrain\|SteamPunk Astrotrain]] 16:23, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

Geewunling at 18:24, 2 April 2011

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	Is it just me, or out of the many, many Transformers firetrucks is this the only one that's a Decepticon? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] 15:56, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		Is it just me, or out of the many, many Transformers firetrucks is this the only one that's a Decepticon? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] 15:56, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	:Pretty much. I assume Hasbro made a conscious effort to avoid having any Decepticon rescue vehicles until the movie used Barricade. - [[User:Cattleprod\|Cattleprod]] 16:09, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		:Pretty much. I assume Hasbro made a conscious effort to avoid having any Decepticon rescue vehicles until the movie used Barricade. - [[User:Cattleprod\|Cattleprod]] 16:09, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	::[[Suppressor]] is a haz-mat redeco of a firetruck. So close. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:49, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		::[[Suppressor (Universe)\|Suppressor]] is a haz-mat redeco of a firetruck. So close. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:49, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	:[[Discharge\|Reverse Evolution Discharge]] is a Decepticon firetruck, but I'd be hesitant to count her since she's just regular Discharge turned temporarily evil. Like putting Dark Designs Rhinox on a list of Predacons. --[[User:Andrusi\|Andrusi]] 16:04, 17 July 2010 (EDT)		:[[Discharge\|Reverse Evolution Discharge]] is a Decepticon firetruck, but I'd be hesitant to count her since she's just regular Discharge turned temporarily evil. Like putting Dark Designs Rhinox on a list of Predacons. --[[User:Andrusi\|Andrusi]] 16:04, 17 July 2010 (EDT)
	I like his "Combined Mode" head alot better than his normal one.[[User:TOM\|TOM]] 15:11, 7 July 2010 (EDT)		I like his "Combined Mode" head alot better than his normal one.[[User:TOM\|TOM]] 15:11, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

LV at 04:49, 17 December 2010

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	:He is in the "Cyber Missions characters" category, which itself is a sub-category of "live-action film series characters", so I think that has it covered. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 12:06, 16 December 2010 (EST)		:He is in the "Cyber Missions characters" category, which itself is a sub-category of "live-action film series characters", so I think that has it covered. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 12:06, 16 December 2010 (EST)
	::I think he means in the continuity note. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 23:41, 16 December 2010 (EST)		::I think he means in the continuity note. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 23:41, 16 December 2010 (EST)
			:::I'm inclined to say that if Smolder had shown up in the background of Spotlight: Drift, PCCs would have been dumped into the G1iverse basically immediately, but that's neither here nor there. But now with Hasbro's official Q&A word being that PCC don't belong to any continuity, I think the time for that note has passed.
			:::PS Also let's pretend Salvage isn't Salvage while we're at it, Hasbro. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 23:49, 16 December 2010 (EST)

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			==Untitled==
	Is it just me, or out of the many, many Transformers firetrucks is this the only one that's a Decepticon? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] 15:56, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		Is it just me, or out of the many, many Transformers firetrucks is this the only one that's a Decepticon? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] 15:56, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	:Pretty much. I assume Hasbro made a conscious effort to avoid having any Decepticon rescue vehicles until the movie used Barricade. - [[User:Cattleprod\|Cattleprod]] 16:09, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		:Pretty much. I assume Hasbro made a conscious effort to avoid having any Decepticon rescue vehicles until the movie used Barricade. - [[User:Cattleprod\|Cattleprod]] 16:09, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	::[[Suppressor (Universe)\|Suppressor]] is a haz-mat redeco of a firetruck. So close. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:49, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		::[[Suppressor (Universe)\|Suppressor]] is a haz-mat redeco of a firetruck. So close. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:49, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	:[[Discharge (OC)\|Reverse Evolution Discharge]] is a Decepticon firetruck, but I'd be hesitant to count her since she's just regular Discharge turned temporarily evil. Like putting Dark Designs Rhinox on a list of Predacons. --[[User:Andrusi\|Andrusi]] 16:04, 17 July 2010 (EDT)		:[[Discharge (G1)\|Reverse Evolution Discharge]] is a Decepticon firetruck, but I'd be hesitant to count her since she's just regular Discharge turned temporarily evil. Like putting Dark Designs Rhinox on a list of Predacons. --[[User:Andrusi\|Andrusi]] 16:04, 17 July 2010 (EDT)
	I like his "Combined Mode" head alot better than his normal one.[[User:TOM\|TOM]] 15:11, 7 July 2010 (EDT)		I like his "Combined Mode" head alot better than his normal one.[[User:TOM\|TOM]] 15:11, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

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	:Pretty much. I assume Hasbro made a conscious effort to avoid having any Decepticon rescue vehicles until the movie used Barricade. - [[User:Cattleprod\|Cattleprod]] 16:09, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		:Pretty much. I assume Hasbro made a conscious effort to avoid having any Decepticon rescue vehicles until the movie used Barricade. - [[User:Cattleprod\|Cattleprod]] 16:09, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	::[[Suppressor (Universe)\|Suppressor]] is a haz-mat redeco of a firetruck. So close. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:49, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		::[[Suppressor (Universe)\|Suppressor]] is a haz-mat redeco of a firetruck. So close. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:49, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	:[[Discharge\|Reverse Evolution Discharge]] is a Decepticon firetruck, but I'd be hesitant to count her since she's just regular Discharge turned temporarily evil. Like putting Dark Designs Rhinox on a list of Predacons. --[[User:Andrusi\|Andrusi]] 16:04, 17 July 2010 (EDT)		:[[Discharge (OC)\|Reverse Evolution Discharge]] is a Decepticon firetruck, but I'd be hesitant to count her since she's just regular Discharge turned temporarily evil. Like putting Dark Designs Rhinox on a list of Predacons. --[[User:Andrusi\|Andrusi]] 16:04, 17 July 2010 (EDT)
	I like his "Combined Mode" head alot better than his normal one.[[User:TOM\|TOM]] 15:11, 7 July 2010 (EDT)		I like his "Combined Mode" head alot better than his normal one.[[User:TOM\|TOM]] 15:11, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

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	[[User:SteamPunk Astrotrain\|SteamPunk Astrotrain]] 16:23, 29 July 2011 (EDT)		[[User:SteamPunk Astrotrain\|SteamPunk Astrotrain]] 16:23, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
	:On the other hand, the answer from the Q&A is author intent... while fiction and preceeding/subsequent toys have established Icepick, Salvage and Leadfoot as being part of the live-action franchise. Doesn't actual fiction (which includes toy bios) typically trump authorial intent? --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 16:34, 29 July 2011 (EDT)		:On the other hand, the answer from the Q&A is author intent... while fiction and preceeding/subsequent toys have established Icepick, Salvage and Leadfoot as being part of the live-action franchise. Doesn't actual fiction (which includes toy bios) typically trump authorial intent? --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 16:34, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
			::Yes. At this point, with Smolder not some kind of weird outlier as clearly part of the Movie universe, it's time for his page to join us in 2011. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 18:29, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

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	Is it just me, or out of the many, many Transformers firetrucks is this the only one that's a Decepticon? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] 15:56, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		Is it just me, or out of the many, many Transformers firetrucks is this the only one that's a Decepticon? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] 15:56, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	:Pretty much. I assume Hasbro made a conscious effort to avoid having any Decepticon rescue vehicles until the movie used Barricade. - [[User:Cattleprod\|Cattleprod]] 16:09, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		:Pretty much. I assume Hasbro made a conscious effort to avoid having any Decepticon rescue vehicles until the movie used Barricade. - [[User:Cattleprod\|Cattleprod]] 16:09, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	::[[Suppressor]] is a haz-mat redeco of a firetruck. So close. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:49, 27 March 2010 (EDT)		::[[Suppressor (Universe)\|Suppressor]] is a haz-mat redeco of a firetruck. So close. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 16:49, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
	:[[Discharge\|Reverse Evolution Discharge]] is a Decepticon firetruck, but I'd be hesitant to count her since she's just regular Discharge turned temporarily evil. Like putting Dark Designs Rhinox on a list of Predacons. --[[User:Andrusi\|Andrusi]] 16:04, 17 July 2010 (EDT)		:[[Discharge\|Reverse Evolution Discharge]] is a Decepticon firetruck, but I'd be hesitant to count her since she's just regular Discharge turned temporarily evil. Like putting Dark Designs Rhinox on a list of Predacons. --[[User:Andrusi\|Andrusi]] 16:04, 17 July 2010 (EDT)
	I like his "Combined Mode" head alot better than his normal one.[[User:TOM\|TOM]] 15:11, 7 July 2010 (EDT)		I like his "Combined Mode" head alot better than his normal one.[[User:TOM\|TOM]] 15:11, 7 July 2010 (EDT)