Talk:Sou - Revision history

https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ASou Talk:Sou - Revision history 2026-09-13T00:51:55Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sou&diff=1897046&oldid=prev BerylRoll at 09:47, 25 February 2026 2026-02-25T09:47:39Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 09:47, 25 February 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Who's got more? [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 11:27, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Who's got more? [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 11:27, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I like it as it is too. Though, I must inquire something. Why not just "Sō", since we have pages named "[[Shūta Gō]]", "[[Ganoh|Gan'ō]]", "[[Gaidora|Gaidōra]]", "[[Gekisoumaru|Gekisōmaru]]", "[[Figure Ō]]", etc.? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 12:16, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I like it as it is too. Though, I must inquire something. Why not just "Sō", since we have pages named "[[Shūta Gō]]", "[[Ganoh|Gan'ō]]", "[[Gaidora <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(Go!)</ins>|Gaidōra]]", "[[Gekisoumaru|Gekisōmaru]]", "[[Figure Ō]]", etc.? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 12:16, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: What I'd like to know is how to actually put the Ō in the search field without resorting to copy-paste. [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 13:12, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: What I'd like to know is how to actually put the Ō in the search field without resorting to copy-paste. [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 13:12, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I think moving it to "Saw" means it no longer reads as a confusing syllabic pun, which while generally a good thing, is not representative of the meaning. (I'm also totally unconvinced it IS supposed to be "Saw", since no other Autobot partner's name includes a pun on their altmode - it's just Sw- as best as they can manage) I agree that we should be consistent with the use of "ō" versus "ou", though.) -[[User:LV|LV]] 15:19, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I think moving it to "Saw" means it no longer reads as a confusing syllabic pun, which while generally a good thing, is not representative of the meaning. (I'm also totally unconvinced it IS supposed to be "Saw", since no other Autobot partner's name includes a pun on their altmode - it's just Sw- as best as they can manage) I agree that we should be consistent with the use of "ō" versus "ou", though.) -[[User:LV|LV]] 15:19, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

BerylRoll https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sou&diff=1054706&oldid=prev Saix at 14:55, 8 February 2016 2016-02-08T14:55:05Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:55, 8 February 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Who's got more? [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 11:27, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Who's got more? [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 11:27, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I like it as it is too. Though, I must inquire something. Why not just "Sō", since we have pages named "[[Shūta Gō]]", "[[Ganoh|Gan'ō]]", "[[Gaidora|Gaidōra]]", "[[Gekisōmaru]]", "[[Figure Ō]]", etc.? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 12:16, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I like it as it is too. Though, I must inquire something. Why not just "Sō", since we have pages named "[[Shūta Gō]]", "[[Ganoh|Gan'ō]]", "[[Gaidora|Gaidōra]]", "[[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Gekisoumaru|</ins>Gekisōmaru]]", "[[Figure Ō]]", etc.? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 12:16, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: What I'd like to know is how to actually put the Ō in the search field without resorting to copy-paste. [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 13:12, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: What I'd like to know is how to actually put the Ō in the search field without resorting to copy-paste. [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 13:12, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I think moving it to "Saw" means it no longer reads as a confusing syllabic pun, which while generally a good thing, is not representative of the meaning. (I'm also totally unconvinced it IS supposed to be "Saw", since no other Autobot partner's name includes a pun on their altmode - it's just Sw- as best as they can manage) I agree that we should be consistent with the use of "ō" versus "ou", though.) -[[User:LV|LV]] 15:19, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I think moving it to "Saw" means it no longer reads as a confusing syllabic pun, which while generally a good thing, is not representative of the meaning. (I'm also totally unconvinced it IS supposed to be "Saw", since no other Autobot partner's name includes a pun on their altmode - it's just Sw- as best as they can manage) I agree that we should be consistent with the use of "ō" versus "ou", though.) -[[User:LV|LV]] 15:19, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Saix https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sou&diff=810245&oldid=prev Mimi at 14:19, 20 June 2013 2013-06-20T14:19:41Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:19, 20 June 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Who's got more? [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 11:27, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Who's got more? [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 11:27, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I like it as it is too. Though, I must inquire something. Why not just "Sō", since we have pages named "[[Shūta Gō]]", "[[Gan'ō]]", "[[Gaidōra]]", "[[Gekisōmaru]]", "[[Figure Ō]]", etc.? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 12:16, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I like it as it is too. Though, I must inquire something. Why not just "Sō", since we have pages named "[[Shūta Gō]]", "[[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ganoh|</ins>Gan'ō]]", "[[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Gaidora|</ins>Gaidōra]]", "[[Gekisōmaru]]", "[[Figure Ō]]", etc.? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 12:16, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: What I'd like to know is how to actually put the Ō in the search field without resorting to copy-paste. [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 13:12, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: What I'd like to know is how to actually put the Ō in the search field without resorting to copy-paste. [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 13:12, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I think moving it to "Saw" means it no longer reads as a confusing syllabic pun, which while generally a good thing, is not representative of the meaning. (I'm also totally unconvinced it IS supposed to be "Saw", since no other Autobot partner's name includes a pun on their altmode - it's just Sw- as best as they can manage) I agree that we should be consistent with the use of "ō" versus "ou", though.) -[[User:LV|LV]] 15:19, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I think moving it to "Saw" means it no longer reads as a confusing syllabic pun, which while generally a good thing, is not representative of the meaning. (I'm also totally unconvinced it IS supposed to be "Saw", since no other Autobot partner's name includes a pun on their altmode - it's just Sw- as best as they can manage) I agree that we should be consistent with the use of "ō" versus "ou", though.) -[[User:LV|LV]] 15:19, 4 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Mimi https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sou&diff=808119&oldid=prev LV at 17:21, 7 June 2013 2013-06-07T17:21:20Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:21, 7 June 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l21">Line 21:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 21:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I don't see why "Sowu" doesn't replicate "So-u" adequately. There's no extension of a vowel sound there, just the breakup of "oh" and "oo" that conventional English phonetics imply a "W" sound between, preserving the "W" attempt of the katakana. This isn't even as interpretive as "Ooji" to "Wuji". -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:27, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I don't see why "Sowu" doesn't replicate "So-u" adequately. There's no extension of a vowel sound there, just the breakup of "oh" and "oo" that conventional English phonetics imply a "W" sound between, preserving the "W" attempt of the katakana. This isn't even as interpretive as "Ooji" to "Wuji". -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:27, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Last call, in Japanese the "o" sound is usually extended with a "u" sound, not another "o". Hence our habit of using ō for the "ou" combo in any kana, as they're not separated sounds in Japanese; they slide into eachother. The "oo" combo '''is''' separated into o-o however. Now if you'll excuse me... *runs from Chris' pillows* [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 12:21, 7 June 2013 (EDT) </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Last call, in Japanese the "o" sound is usually extended with a "u" sound, not another "o". Hence our habit of using ō for the "ou" combo in any kana, as they're not separated sounds in Japanese; they slide into eachother. The "oo" combo '''is''' separated into o-o however. Now if you'll excuse me... *runs from Chris' pillows* [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 12:21, 7 June 2013 (EDT) </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::I'm not going to pretend to be a capable translator of Japanese here, but it seems that of the many people who do know what they're talking about, you're the only one convinced that "So-u" ''must'' mean "So-with-an-extended-o" rather than the two-syllable "So-oo". Of the two, "So-oo" sounds considerably more like the beginning of the "Sw" phoneme which would be consistent with what Takara has been aiming for with all of the other names, rather than naming him after what he turns into. -[[User:LV|LV]] 13:21, 7 June 2013 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Man, you guys have no idea how badly I want to smother you with a pillow. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:40, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Man, you guys have no idea how badly I want to smother you with a pillow. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:40, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

LV https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sou&diff=808117&oldid=prev JelZe GoldRabbit at 16:21, 7 June 2013 2013-06-07T16:21:28Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:21, 7 June 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l20">Line 20:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 20:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::"Sow" would be ambiguous, as there are two different pronunciations for that letter sequence in English. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:24, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::"Sow" would be ambiguous, as there are two different pronunciations for that letter sequence in English. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:24, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I don't see why "Sowu" doesn't replicate "So-u" adequately. There's no extension of a vowel sound there, just the breakup of "oh" and "oo" that conventional English phonetics imply a "W" sound between, preserving the "W" attempt of the katakana. This isn't even as interpretive as "Ooji" to "Wuji". -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:27, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I don't see why "Sowu" doesn't replicate "So-u" adequately. There's no extension of a vowel sound there, just the breakup of "oh" and "oo" that conventional English phonetics imply a "W" sound between, preserving the "W" attempt of the katakana. This isn't even as interpretive as "Ooji" to "Wuji". -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:27, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::Last call, in Japanese the "o" sound is usually extended with a "u" sound, not another "o". Hence our habit of using ō for the "ou" combo in any kana, as they're not separated sounds in Japanese; they slide into eachother. The "oo" combo '''is''' separated into o-o however. Now if you'll excuse me... *runs from Chris' pillows* [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 12:21, 7 June 2013 (EDT) </ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Man, you guys have no idea how badly I want to smother you with a pillow. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:40, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Man, you guys have no idea how badly I want to smother you with a pillow. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:40, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

JelZe GoldRabbit https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sou&diff=807701&oldid=prev Chris McFeely at 16:40, 5 June 2013 2013-06-05T16:40:27Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:40, 5 June 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l20">Line 20:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 20:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::"Sow" would be ambiguous, as there are two different pronunciations for that letter sequence in English. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:24, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::"Sow" would be ambiguous, as there are two different pronunciations for that letter sequence in English. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:24, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I don't see why "Sowu" doesn't replicate "So-u" adequately. There's no extension of a vowel sound there, just the breakup of "oh" and "oo" that conventional English phonetics imply a "W" sound between, preserving the "W" attempt of the katakana. This isn't even as interpretive as "Ooji" to "Wuji". -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:27, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::I don't see why "Sowu" doesn't replicate "So-u" adequately. There's no extension of a vowel sound there, just the breakup of "oh" and "oo" that conventional English phonetics imply a "W" sound between, preserving the "W" attempt of the katakana. This isn't even as interpretive as "Ooji" to "Wuji". -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:27, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Man, you guys have no idea how badly I want to smother you with a pillow. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:40, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Chris McFeely https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sou&diff=807699&oldid=prev LV at 16:27, 5 June 2013 2013-06-05T16:27:45Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:27, 5 June 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l19">Line 19:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 19:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Needle-and-thread or throwing seeds around? And "Sowu" won't do, we'd need another ウ or a ー (elongation mark) for that to work. I'd say don't change the name at all, not even to Sō. The way I see it, in Hiragana, normal "o" kana use "u" to make the "o" sound long, while in katakana we have ー. ソウ is written in katakana, but spelled like hiragana... I'm overthinking this again, aren't I? [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 12:02, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Needle-and-thread or throwing seeds around? And "Sowu" won't do, we'd need another ウ or a ー (elongation mark) for that to work. I'd say don't change the name at all, not even to Sō. The way I see it, in Hiragana, normal "o" kana use "u" to make the "o" sound long, while in katakana we have ー. ソウ is written in katakana, but spelled like hiragana... I'm overthinking this again, aren't I? [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 12:02, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::"Sow" would be ambiguous, as there are two different pronunciations for that letter sequence in English. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:24, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::"Sow" would be ambiguous, as there are two different pronunciations for that letter sequence in English. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:24, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::I don't see why "Sowu" doesn't replicate "So-u" adequately. There's no extension of a vowel sound there, just the breakup of "oh" and "oo" that conventional English phonetics imply a "W" sound between, preserving the "W" attempt of the katakana. This isn't even as interpretive as "Ooji" to "Wuji". -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:27, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

LV https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sou&diff=807698&oldid=prev Khajidha at 16:24, 5 June 2013 2013-06-05T16:24:01Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:24, 5 June 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l18">Line 18:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 18:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Sew? Sow?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 11:21, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Sew? Sow?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 11:21, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Needle-and-thread or throwing seeds around? And "Sowu" won't do, we'd need another ウ or a ー (elongation mark) for that to work. I'd say don't change the name at all, not even to Sō. The way I see it, in Hiragana, normal "o" kana use "u" to make the "o" sound long, while in katakana we have ー. ソウ is written in katakana, but spelled like hiragana... I'm overthinking this again, aren't I? [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 12:02, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Needle-and-thread or throwing seeds around? And "Sowu" won't do, we'd need another ウ or a ー (elongation mark) for that to work. I'd say don't change the name at all, not even to Sō. The way I see it, in Hiragana, normal "o" kana use "u" to make the "o" sound long, while in katakana we have ー. ソウ is written in katakana, but spelled like hiragana... I'm overthinking this again, aren't I? [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 12:02, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::"Sow" would be ambiguous, as there are two different pronunciations for that letter sequence in English. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:24, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Khajidha https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sou&diff=807696&oldid=prev JelZe GoldRabbit at 16:02, 5 June 2013 2013-06-05T16:02:25Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:02, 5 June 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l17">Line 17:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 17:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::What about "Sowu"? -[[User:LV|LV]] 09:50, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::What about "Sowu"? -[[User:LV|LV]] 09:50, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Sew? Sow?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 11:21, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Sew? Sow?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 11:21, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::Needle-and-thread or throwing seeds around? And "Sowu" won't do, we'd need another ウ or a ー (elongation mark) for that to work. I'd say don't change the name at all, not even to Sō. The way I see it, in Hiragana, normal "o" kana use "u" to make the "o" sound long, while in katakana we have ー. ソウ is written in katakana, but spelled like hiragana... I'm overthinking this again, aren't I? [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 12:02, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

JelZe GoldRabbit https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sou&diff=807690&oldid=prev KrytenKoro at 15:21, 5 June 2013 2013-06-05T15:21:08Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 15:21, 5 June 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l16">Line 16:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 16:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Honestly, I'm not as invested in having it as specifically "Saw" as I am in having a "w" in there somewhere. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 03:32, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Honestly, I'm not as invested in having it as specifically "Saw" as I am in having a "w" in there somewhere. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 03:32, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::What about "Sowu"? -[[User:LV|LV]] 09:50, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::What about "Sowu"? -[[User:LV|LV]] 09:50, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::Sew? Sow?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 11:21, 5 June 2013 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

KrytenKoro