Talk:Spark extractor - Revision history

Geewunling: /* Cryotek */

2009-04-12T15:50:57Z

Cryotek

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	:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden ~~Disc~~]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disk]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::Ehh... I don't think it's that clear-cut. It's not like the Theft story is completely independent from 3H, set in an all-new proprietary Fun Pub continuity. I just sort of assumed it was in the 3H continuity, personally, because it incorporates all the stuff that was established by 3H but hasn't appeared anywhere else. To me, it's a descendent of 3H and the fact that 3H doesn't exist anymore doesn't really matter. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:::Ehh... I don't think it's that clear-cut. It's not like the Theft story is completely independent from 3H, set in an all-new proprietary Fun Pub continuity. I just sort of assumed it was in the 3H continuity, personally, because it incorporates all the stuff that was established by 3H but hasn't appeared anywhere else. To me, it's a descendent of 3H and the fact that 3H doesn't exist anymore doesn't really matter. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	::::I'm confused at your distinctions. Trent wrote the thing to work with [[Dawn of Future's Past]] specifically, which is, well -- it's sure not 3H material. I'm also not sure why you've arbitrarily decided that Fun Publications' material doesn't matter because it's not different enough from other takes. It really sounds like the only way you'd accept Fun Publications' material as being Fun Publications' material is if it presented irreconcilable contradictions with 3H, IDW, and/or the original television show. Fun Publications presented a cartoon short, set in its own continuity, that didn't contradict anything before -- so it doesn't matter? I'm just boggling here. I mean... what? Seriously, what? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 18:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		::::I'm confused at your distinctions. Trent wrote the thing to work with [[Dawn of Future's Past]] specifically, which is, well -- it's sure not 3H material. I'm also not sure why you've arbitrarily decided that Fun Publications' material doesn't matter because it's not different enough from other takes. It really sounds like the only way you'd accept Fun Publications' material as being Fun Publications' material is if it presented irreconcilable contradictions with 3H, IDW, and/or the original television show. Fun Publications presented a cartoon short, set in its own continuity, that didn't contradict anything before -- so it doesn't matter? I'm just boggling here. I mean... what? Seriously, what? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 18:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Geewunling: /* Cryotek */

2009-04-12T15:50:36Z

Cryotek

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	I'm pretty damn sure Cryotek inventing the spark extractor fits in darn spiffy with FP's stuff, given their [[Theft of the Golden ~~Disc~~]] addition to the mythos. Additionally, show me where IDW's material contradicts this, and I'll agree to remove it from the opening paragraph. You not liking Cryotek shouldn't determine the content of this article. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 04:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		I'm pretty damn sure Cryotek inventing the spark extractor fits in darn spiffy with FP's stuff, given their [[Theft of the Golden Disk]] addition to the mythos. Additionally, show me where IDW's material contradicts this, and I'll agree to remove it from the opening paragraph. You not liking Cryotek shouldn't determine the content of this article. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 04:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Well, IDW has stated that they're not paying attention to 3H's stuff, and their comics correlate with this fact. Spittor not being one of Tarantulas's tube babies, for example. Ravage. If A isn't in continuity with C, then why would C be in continuity with B, which is a continuation of A? Me hating anything that takes away from Megatron's successes wasn't the main reason of my edits or intended as anything more than a joke. [[User:Interrobang\|Interrobang]] 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:Well, IDW has stated that they're not paying attention to 3H's stuff, and their comics correlate with this fact. Spittor not being one of Tarantulas's tube babies, for example. Ravage. If A isn't in continuity with C, then why would C be in continuity with B, which is a continuation of A? Me hating anything that takes away from Megatron's successes wasn't the main reason of my edits or intended as anything more than a joke. [[User:Interrobang\|Interrobang]] 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Deceptitran: /* Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 - */

2009-03-27T22:17:29Z

Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 -

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	:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::Ehh... I don't think it's that clear-cut. It's not like the Theft story is completely independent from 3H, set in an all-new proprietary Fun Pub continuity. I just sort of assumed it was in the 3H continuity, personally, because it incorporates all the stuff that was established by 3H but hasn't appeared anywhere else. To me, it's a descendent of 3H and the fact that 3H doesn't exist anymore doesn't really matter. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:::Ehh... I don't think it's that clear-cut. It's not like the Theft story is completely independent from 3H, set in an all-new proprietary Fun Pub continuity. I just sort of assumed it was in the 3H continuity, personally, because it incorporates all the stuff that was established by 3H but hasn't appeared anywhere else. To me, it's a descendent of 3H and the fact that 3H doesn't exist anymore doesn't really matter. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	::::I'm confused at your distinctions. Trent wrote the thing to work with [[Dawn of Future's Past]] specifically, which is, well -- it's sure not 3H material. I'm also not sure why you've arbitrarily decided that Fun Publications' material doesn't matter because it's not different enough from other takes. It really sounds like the only way you'd accept Fun Publications' material as being Fun Publications' material is if it presented irreconcilable contradictions with 3H, IDW, and/or the original television show. Fun Publications presented a cartoon short, set in its own continuity, that didn't contradict anything before -- so it doesn't matter? I'm just boggling here. I mean... what? Seriously, what? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 18:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		::::I'm confused at your distinctions. Trent wrote the thing to work with [[Dawn of Future's Past]] specifically, which is, well -- it's sure not 3H material. I'm also not sure why you've arbitrarily decided that Fun Publications' material doesn't matter because it's not different enough from other takes. It really sounds like the only way you'd accept Fun Publications' material as being Fun Publications' material is if it presented irreconcilable contradictions with 3H, IDW, and/or the original television show. Fun Publications presented a cartoon short, set in its own continuity, that didn't contradict anything before -- so it doesn't matter? I'm just boggling here. I mean... what? Seriously, what? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 18:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

ItsWalky: What?

2007-12-09T18:25:13Z

What?

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	:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::Ehh... I don't think it's that clear-cut. It's not like the Theft story is completely independent from 3H, set in an all-new proprietary Fun Pub continuity. I just sort of assumed it was in the 3H continuity, personally, because it incorporates all the stuff that was established by 3H but hasn't appeared anywhere else. To me, it's a descendent of 3H and the fact that 3H doesn't exist anymore doesn't really matter. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:::Ehh... I don't think it's that clear-cut. It's not like the Theft story is completely independent from 3H, set in an all-new proprietary Fun Pub continuity. I just sort of assumed it was in the 3H continuity, personally, because it incorporates all the stuff that was established by 3H but hasn't appeared anywhere else. To me, it's a descendent of 3H and the fact that 3H doesn't exist anymore doesn't really matter. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
			::::I'm confused at your distinctions. Trent wrote the thing to work with [[Dawn of Future's Past]] specifically, which is, well -- it's sure not 3H material. I'm also not sure why you've arbitrarily decided that Fun Publications' material doesn't matter because it's not different enough from other takes. It really sounds like the only way you'd accept Fun Publications' material as being Fun Publications' material is if it presented irreconcilable contradictions with 3H, IDW, and/or the original television show. Fun Publications presented a cartoon short, set in its own continuity, that didn't contradict anything before -- so it doesn't matter? I'm just boggling here. I mean... what? Seriously, what? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 18:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Steve-o at 17:14, 9 December 2007

2007-12-09T17:14:14Z

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	:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
			:::Ehh... I don't think it's that clear-cut. It's not like the Theft story is completely independent from 3H, set in an all-new proprietary Fun Pub continuity. I just sort of assumed it was in the 3H continuity, personally, because it incorporates all the stuff that was established by 3H but hasn't appeared anywhere else. To me, it's a descendent of 3H and the fact that 3H doesn't exist anymore doesn't really matter. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

ItsWalky: indent

2007-12-09T05:14:35Z

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	:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

ItsWalky at 05:14, 9 December 2007

2007-12-09T05:14:15Z

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	:Well, IDW has stated that they're not paying attention to 3H's stuff, and their comics correlate with this fact. Spittor not being one of Tarantulas's tube babies, for example. Ravage. If A isn't in continuity with C, then why would C be in continuity with B, which is a continuation of A? Me hating anything that takes away from Megatron's successes wasn't the main reason of my edits or intended as anything more than a joke. [[User:Interrobang\|Interrobang]] 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:Well, IDW has stated that they're not paying attention to 3H's stuff, and their comics correlate with this fact. Spittor not being one of Tarantulas's tube babies, for example. Ravage. If A isn't in continuity with C, then why would C be in continuity with B, which is a continuation of A? Me hating anything that takes away from Megatron's successes wasn't the main reason of my edits or intended as anything more than a joke. [[User:Interrobang\|Interrobang]] 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

	:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
			: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Steve-o: preferred Interrobang's version

2007-12-09T05:08:07Z

preferred Interrobang's version

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	I'm pretty damn sure Cryotek inventing the spark extractor fits in darn spiffy with FP's stuff, given their [[Theft of the Golden Disc]] addition to the mythos. Additionally, show me where IDW's material contradicts this, and I'll agree to remove it from the opening paragraph. You not liking Cryotek shouldn't determine the content of this article. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 04:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		I'm pretty damn sure Cryotek inventing the spark extractor fits in darn spiffy with FP's stuff, given their [[Theft of the Golden Disc]] addition to the mythos. Additionally, show me where IDW's material contradicts this, and I'll agree to remove it from the opening paragraph. You not liking Cryotek shouldn't determine the content of this article. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 04:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Well, IDW has stated that they're not paying attention to 3H's stuff, and their comics correlate with this fact. Spittor not being one of Tarantulas's tube babies, for example. Ravage. If A isn't in continuity with C, then why would C be in continuity with B, which is a continuation of A? ~~My dislike for~~ anything that takes away from Megatron's successes wasn't the main reason ~~for~~ my edits or intended as anything more than a joke. [[User:Interrobang\|Interrobang]] 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:Well, IDW has stated that they're not paying attention to 3H's stuff, and their comics correlate with this fact. Spittor not being one of Tarantulas's tube babies, for example. Ravage. If A isn't in continuity with C, then why would C be in continuity with B, which is a continuation of A? Me hating anything that takes away from Megatron's successes wasn't the main reason of my edits or intended as anything more than a joke. [[User:Interrobang\|Interrobang]] 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

			:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Interrobang: /* Cryotek */

2007-12-09T05:07:27Z

Cryotek

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	I'm pretty damn sure Cryotek inventing the spark extractor fits in darn spiffy with FP's stuff, given their [[Theft of the Golden Disc]] addition to the mythos. Additionally, show me where IDW's material contradicts this, and I'll agree to remove it from the opening paragraph. You not liking Cryotek shouldn't determine the content of this article. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 04:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		I'm pretty damn sure Cryotek inventing the spark extractor fits in darn spiffy with FP's stuff, given their [[Theft of the Golden Disc]] addition to the mythos. Additionally, show me where IDW's material contradicts this, and I'll agree to remove it from the opening paragraph. You not liking Cryotek shouldn't determine the content of this article. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 04:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:Well, IDW has stated that they're not paying attention to 3H's stuff, and their comics correlate with this fact. Spittor not being one of Tarantulas's tube babies, for example. Ravage. If A isn't in continuity with C, then why would C be in continuity with B, which is a continuation of A? ~~Me hating~~ anything that takes away from Megatron's successes wasn't the main reason of my edits or intended as anything more than a joke. [[User:Interrobang\|Interrobang]] 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:Well, IDW has stated that they're not paying attention to 3H's stuff, and their comics correlate with this fact. Spittor not being one of Tarantulas's tube babies, for example. Ravage. If A isn't in continuity with C, then why would C be in continuity with B, which is a continuation of A? My dislike for anything that takes away from Megatron's successes wasn't the main reason for my edits or intended as anything more than a joke. [[User:Interrobang\|Interrobang]] 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Interrobang: /* Cryotek */

2007-12-09T05:04:39Z

Cryotek

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	I'm pretty damn sure Cryotek inventing the spark extractor fits in darn spiffy with FP's stuff, given their [[Theft of the Golden Disc]] addition to the mythos. Additionally, show me where IDW's material contradicts this, and I'll agree to remove it from the opening paragraph. You not liking Cryotek shouldn't determine the content of this article. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 04:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		I'm pretty damn sure Cryotek inventing the spark extractor fits in darn spiffy with FP's stuff, given their [[Theft of the Golden Disc]] addition to the mythos. Additionally, show me where IDW's material contradicts this, and I'll agree to remove it from the opening paragraph. You not liking Cryotek shouldn't determine the content of this article. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 04:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
			:Well, IDW has stated that they're not paying attention to 3H's stuff, and their comics correlate with this fact. Spittor not being one of Tarantulas's tube babies, for example. Ravage. If A isn't in continuity with C, then why would C be in continuity with B, which is a continuation of A? Me hating anything that takes away from Megatron's successes wasn't the main reason of my edits or intended as anything more than a joke. [[User:Interrobang\|Interrobang]] 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden ~~Disc~~]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disk]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::Ehh... I don't think it's that clear-cut. It's not like the Theft story is completely independent from 3H, set in an all-new proprietary Fun Pub continuity. I just sort of assumed it was in the 3H continuity, personally, because it incorporates all the stuff that was established by 3H but hasn't appeared anywhere else. To me, it's a descendent of 3H and the fact that 3H doesn't exist anymore doesn't really matter. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:::Ehh... I don't think it's that clear-cut. It's not like the Theft story is completely independent from 3H, set in an all-new proprietary Fun Pub continuity. I just sort of assumed it was in the 3H continuity, personally, because it incorporates all the stuff that was established by 3H but hasn't appeared anywhere else. To me, it's a descendent of 3H and the fact that 3H doesn't exist anymore doesn't really matter. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	::::I'm confused at your distinctions. Trent wrote the thing to work with [[Dawn of Future's Past]] specifically, which is, well -- it's sure not 3H material. I'm also not sure why you've arbitrarily decided that Fun Publications' material doesn't matter because it's not different enough from other takes. It really sounds like the only way you'd accept Fun Publications' material as being Fun Publications' material is if it presented irreconcilable contradictions with 3H, IDW, and/or the original television show. Fun Publications presented a cartoon short, set in its own continuity, that didn't contradict anything before -- so it doesn't matter? I'm just boggling here. I mean... what? Seriously, what? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 18:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		::::I'm confused at your distinctions. Trent wrote the thing to work with [[Dawn of Future's Past]] specifically, which is, well -- it's sure not 3H material. I'm also not sure why you've arbitrarily decided that Fun Publications' material doesn't matter because it's not different enough from other takes. It really sounds like the only way you'd accept Fun Publications' material as being Fun Publications' material is if it presented irreconcilable contradictions with 3H, IDW, and/or the original television show. Fun Publications presented a cartoon short, set in its own continuity, that didn't contradict anything before -- so it doesn't matter? I'm just boggling here. I mean... what? Seriously, what? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 18:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

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	:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::Ehh... I don't think it's that clear-cut. It's not like the Theft story is completely independent from 3H, set in an all-new proprietary Fun Pub continuity. I just sort of assumed it was in the 3H continuity, personally, because it incorporates all the stuff that was established by 3H but hasn't appeared anywhere else. To me, it's a descendent of 3H and the fact that 3H doesn't exist anymore doesn't really matter. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:::Ehh... I don't think it's that clear-cut. It's not like the Theft story is completely independent from 3H, set in an all-new proprietary Fun Pub continuity. I just sort of assumed it was in the 3H continuity, personally, because it incorporates all the stuff that was established by 3H but hasn't appeared anywhere else. To me, it's a descendent of 3H and the fact that 3H doesn't exist anymore doesn't really matter. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	::::I'm confused at your distinctions. Trent wrote the thing to work with [[Dawn of Future's Past]] specifically, which is, well -- it's sure not 3H material. I'm also not sure why you've arbitrarily decided that Fun Publications' material doesn't matter because it's not different enough from other takes. It really sounds like the only way you'd accept Fun Publications' material as being Fun Publications' material is if it presented irreconcilable contradictions with 3H, IDW, and/or the original television show. Fun Publications presented a cartoon short, set in its own continuity, that didn't contradict anything before -- so it doesn't matter? I'm just boggling here. I mean... what? Seriously, what? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 18:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		::::I'm confused at your distinctions. Trent wrote the thing to work with [[Dawn of Future's Past]] specifically, which is, well -- it's sure not 3H material. I'm also not sure why you've arbitrarily decided that Fun Publications' material doesn't matter because it's not different enough from other takes. It really sounds like the only way you'd accept Fun Publications' material as being Fun Publications' material is if it presented irreconcilable contradictions with 3H, IDW, and/or the original television show. Fun Publications presented a cartoon short, set in its own continuity, that didn't contradict anything before -- so it doesn't matter? I'm just boggling here. I mean... what? Seriously, what? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 18:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

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	:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:::Ehh... I don't think it's that clear-cut. It's not like the Theft story is completely independent from 3H, set in an all-new proprietary Fun Pub continuity. I just sort of assumed it was in the 3H continuity, personally, because it incorporates all the stuff that was established by 3H but hasn't appeared anywhere else. To me, it's a descendent of 3H and the fact that 3H doesn't exist anymore doesn't really matter. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:::Ehh... I don't think it's that clear-cut. It's not like the Theft story is completely independent from 3H, set in an all-new proprietary Fun Pub continuity. I just sort of assumed it was in the 3H continuity, personally, because it incorporates all the stuff that was established by 3H but hasn't appeared anywhere else. To me, it's a descendent of 3H and the fact that 3H doesn't exist anymore doesn't really matter. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
			::::I'm confused at your distinctions. Trent wrote the thing to work with [[Dawn of Future's Past]] specifically, which is, well -- it's sure not 3H material. I'm also not sure why you've arbitrarily decided that Fun Publications' material doesn't matter because it's not different enough from other takes. It really sounds like the only way you'd accept Fun Publications' material as being Fun Publications' material is if it presented irreconcilable contradictions with 3H, IDW, and/or the original television show. Fun Publications presented a cartoon short, set in its own continuity, that didn't contradict anything before -- so it doesn't matter? I'm just boggling here. I mean... what? Seriously, what? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 18:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
	:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
			:::Ehh... I don't think it's that clear-cut. It's not like the Theft story is completely independent from 3H, set in an all-new proprietary Fun Pub continuity. I just sort of assumed it was in the 3H continuity, personally, because it incorporates all the stuff that was established by 3H but hasn't appeared anywhere else. To me, it's a descendent of 3H and the fact that 3H doesn't exist anymore doesn't really matter. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	:Well, IDW has stated that they're not paying attention to 3H's stuff, and their comics correlate with this fact. Spittor not being one of Tarantulas's tube babies, for example. Ravage. If A isn't in continuity with C, then why would C be in continuity with B, which is a continuation of A? Me hating anything that takes away from Megatron's successes wasn't the main reason of my edits or intended as anything more than a joke. [[User:Interrobang\|Interrobang]] 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		:Well, IDW has stated that they're not paying attention to 3H's stuff, and their comics correlate with this fact. Spittor not being one of Tarantulas's tube babies, for example. Ravage. If A isn't in continuity with C, then why would C be in continuity with B, which is a continuation of A? Me hating anything that takes away from Megatron's successes wasn't the main reason of my edits or intended as anything more than a joke. [[User:Interrobang\|Interrobang]] 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

	:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:I sort of agree with the changes Interrobang made, actually. I wrote the original article crediting Cryotek, but he's right that the intro should be continuity-neutral. Inserting a character who is only known to exist in one branching continuity into the intro is a little... pushy. It says "the BM cartoon is beholden to Wreckers" instead of the other way around. I would favor removing the Cryotek mention out of the intro and just talking about him under the appropriate fiction section, as Interrobang had it. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
			: But as I just said, Cryotek doesn't just exist in one branching continuity. He also exists in Fun Publications' material ([[Theft of the Golden Disc]]), and he has the same role as in 3H's material. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>