Talk:Tailgate (G1) - Revision history

TheLiegeDecado at 18:27, 24 June 2017

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	:Because James Roberts explicitly said that his energon is supposed to be that color. It had nothing to do with the propex. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour\|talk]]) 12:45, 28 December 2013 (EST)		:Because James Roberts explicitly said that his energon is supposed to be that color. It had nothing to do with the propex. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour\|talk]]) 12:45, 28 December 2013 (EST)
	:Thank you for clearing that up. I didn't know the writer had said that about the subject. Thanks again. [[User:Retep911\|Retep911]] 21:34, 30/12/2013 (GMT)		:Thank you for clearing that up. I didn't know the writer had said that about the subject. Thanks again. [[User:Retep911\|Retep911]] 21:34, 30/12/2013 (GMT)

			== Split? ==
			Has the IDW section become big enough to split into a different page? --[[User:TheLiegeDecado\|TheLiegeDecado]] ([[User talk:TheLiegeDecado\|talk]]) 14:27, 24 June 2017 (EDT)

Retep911: /* Note section */

2013-12-30T21:36:06Z

Note section

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	i had a slight thought earlier one day, but its gone, so i'll say again. you know, in the comic, when he's draining the bomb? of propex? and the green inner energon? what if they mixed, and he poured out propex and energon for the vial as an offering to cyclonus? just a thought for a note, that went for some reason. -- [[User:Retep911\|Retep911]] 16:20, 28 december 2013		i had a slight thought earlier one day, but its gone, so i'll say again. you know, in the comic, when he's draining the bomb? of propex? and the green inner energon? what if they mixed, and he poured out propex and energon for the vial as an offering to cyclonus? just a thought for a note, that went for some reason. -- [[User:Retep911\|Retep911]] 16:20, 28 december 2013
	:Because James Roberts explicitly said that his energon is supposed to be that color. It had nothing to do with the propex. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour\|talk]]) 12:45, 28 December 2013 (EST)		:Because James Roberts explicitly said that his energon is supposed to be that color. It had nothing to do with the propex. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour\|talk]]) 12:45, 28 December 2013 (EST)
			:Thank you for clearing that up. I didn't know the writer had said that about the subject. Thanks again. [[User:Retep911\|Retep911]] 21:34, 30/12/2013 (GMT)

Detour: /* Note section */

2013-12-28T17:45:08Z

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	i had a slight thought earlier one day, but its gone, so i'll say again. you know, in the comic, when he's draining the bomb? of propex? and the green inner energon? what if they mixed, and he poured out propex and energon for the vial as an offering to cyclonus? just a thought for a note, that went for some reason. -- [[User:Retep911\|Retep911]] 16:20, 28 december 2013		i had a slight thought earlier one day, but its gone, so i'll say again. you know, in the comic, when he's draining the bomb? of propex? and the green inner energon? what if they mixed, and he poured out propex and energon for the vial as an offering to cyclonus? just a thought for a note, that went for some reason. -- [[User:Retep911\|Retep911]] 16:20, 28 december 2013
			:Because James Roberts explicitly said that his energon is supposed to be that color. It had nothing to do with the propex. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour\|talk]]) 12:45, 28 December 2013 (EST)

Retep911 at 16:22, 28 December 2013

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	So, in light of the revelations of MTMTE #13.... shouldn't we revise? Again? -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 22:21, 9 April 2013 (EDT)		So, in light of the revelations of MTMTE #13.... shouldn't we revise? Again? -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 22:21, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
	: Yeah. It's kinda awkward to have the opening go on about what a super-awesome soldier Tailgate is when we know he never actually did any of the stuff he said he did. -[[User:Ookalf\|Ookalf]] 22:42, 22 April 2013 (EDT)		: Yeah. It's kinda awkward to have the opening go on about what a super-awesome soldier Tailgate is when we know he never actually did any of the stuff he said he did. -[[User:Ookalf\|Ookalf]] 22:42, 22 April 2013 (EDT)

			== Note section ==

			i had a slight thought earlier one day, but its gone, so i'll say again. you know, in the comic, when he's draining the bomb? of propex? and the green inner energon? what if they mixed, and he poured out propex and energon for the vial as an offering to cyclonus? just a thought for a note, that went for some reason. -- [[User:Retep911\|Retep911]] 16:20, 28 december 2013

Ookalf: /* Opening paragraph II */

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	So, in light of the revelations of MTMTE #13.... shouldn't we revise? Again? -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 22:21, 9 April 2013 (EDT)		So, in light of the revelations of MTMTE #13.... shouldn't we revise? Again? -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 22:21, 9 April 2013 (EDT)
			: Yeah. It's kinda awkward to have the opening go on about what a super-awesome soldier Tailgate is when we know he never actually did any of the stuff he said he did. -[[User:Ookalf\|Ookalf]] 22:42, 22 April 2013 (EDT)

Repowers: /* Opening paragraph II */ new section

2013-04-10T02:21:26Z

Opening paragraph II: new section

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	::::Here's the MTMTE art, though it's typical Dreamwave.[[User:Riddlerj\|Riddlerj]] 16:49, 25 September 2012 (EDT)		::::Here's the MTMTE art, though it's typical Dreamwave.[[User:Riddlerj\|Riddlerj]] 16:49, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
	[[Image:TailgateMTMTEProfileArt.jpg\|150px]]		[[Image:TailgateMTMTEProfileArt.jpg\|150px]]

			== Opening paragraph II ==

			So, in light of the revelations of MTMTE #13.... shouldn't we revise? Again? -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 22:21, 9 April 2013 (EDT)

Geewunling: /* Main image and opening paragraph */

2012-09-27T15:45:16Z

Main image and opening paragraph

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	:As for the image... that doesn't seem to be a hard rule - the most obvious expression being the pages of those who appear in both the Prime cartoon and War for Cybertron, who should have WfC pictures for the mainpic by that rule - it both came out months before Prime episode 1 aired and is set before it fictionally (Starscream & Soundwave being the most blatant examples, since their bodies in the game and cartoon bear virtually no resemblance to one another). And there are others - shouldn't Movie Prime & Starscream have their Protoform bodies for mainpics, Optimus Primal should be his bat body, BW Megatron his alligator body, BW Dinobot have colouring to match the cartoon/original release rather than the BWX redeco with the bright blue highlights, and so forth. On that basis, since this is the first body in which Tailgate has ''regularly done stuff'' and shows character, this fits fine with my reading. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude\|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 06:34, 22 September 2012 (EDT)		:As for the image... that doesn't seem to be a hard rule - the most obvious expression being the pages of those who appear in both the Prime cartoon and War for Cybertron, who should have WfC pictures for the mainpic by that rule - it both came out months before Prime episode 1 aired and is set before it fictionally (Starscream & Soundwave being the most blatant examples, since their bodies in the game and cartoon bear virtually no resemblance to one another). And there are others - shouldn't Movie Prime & Starscream have their Protoform bodies for mainpics, Optimus Primal should be his bat body, BW Megatron his alligator body, BW Dinobot have colouring to match the cartoon/original release rather than the BWX redeco with the bright blue highlights, and so forth. On that basis, since this is the first body in which Tailgate has ''regularly done stuff'' and shows character, this fits fine with my reading. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude\|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 06:34, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
	::I disagree with your wall of text. Tailgate's intro paragraph has no excuse to completely ignore the only personality we know he has in any continuity but IDW, and whatever you think you wrote that included it, nobody but you sees it. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 10:00, 22 September 2012 (EDT)		::I disagree with your wall of text. Tailgate's intro paragraph has no excuse to completely ignore the only personality we know he has in any continuity but IDW, and whatever you think you wrote that included it, nobody but you sees it. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 10:00, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
	:::Okay, in short words - show me where in [[Underworld!\|UK #245]] or the [[Fight!~~_Super_Robot_Lifeform_Transform:::;ers_issue_7~~\|JG1 #7]]-[[Fight!_Super_Robot_Lifeform_Transformers_issue_8\|#8]], ''neither of which he is a background character in'', he shows ANY trace of the personality the TFU bio gives for him. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude\|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 10:54, 22 September 2012 (EDT)		:::Okay, in short words - show me where in [[Underworld!\|UK #245]] or the [[Fight!_Super_Robot_Lifeform_Transformers_issue_7\|JG1 #7]]-[[Fight!_Super_Robot_Lifeform_Transformers_issue_8\|#8]], ''neither of which he is a background character in'', he shows ANY trace of the personality the TFU bio gives for him. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude\|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 10:54, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
	::::You act as if Furman or the Japanese mangas ignoring the bio character traits and making them generic guys acting generically is somehow uncommon. Never mind that in "Underworld", ''Tailgate is not on Earth''. Kind of a vital component to trigger his crazy missing there. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 15:06, 22 September 2012 (EDT)		::::You act as if Furman or the Japanese mangas ignoring the bio character traits and making them generic guys acting generically is somehow uncommon. Never mind that in "Underworld", ''Tailgate is not on Earth''. Kind of a vital component to trigger his crazy missing there. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 15:06, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
	::::::I really dislike giving his IDW personality complete prominence over the TFU/toy bio that has been his only character personality for decades.i thought our policy was the opening paragraph should be Continuity Neutral and if there were different portrayals they went in the fiction section? At the very least the TFU bio NEEDS to be here somewhere. It was Who he is FAR longer than his new IDW stuff well written or not.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 15:28, 22 September 2012 (EDT)		::::::I really dislike giving his IDW personality complete prominence over the TFU/toy bio that has been his only character personality for decades.i thought our policy was the opening paragraph should be Continuity Neutral and if there were different portrayals they went in the fiction section? At the very least the TFU bio NEEDS to be here somewhere. It was Who he is FAR longer than his new IDW stuff well written or not.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 15:28, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

Riddlerj: /* Main image part 2 */

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	::Agreed, the Universe art is preferred to this. Or perhaps if someone could snag the Dreamwave MTMTE art? I forgot if that was good or not. --[[User:Nu-Priest\|Nu-Priest]] 19:33, 23 September 2012 (EDT)		::Agreed, the Universe art is preferred to this. Or perhaps if someone could snag the Dreamwave MTMTE art? I forgot if that was good or not. --[[User:Nu-Priest\|Nu-Priest]] 19:33, 23 September 2012 (EDT)
	:::Personally, I like it for the variety. We have an awful lot of TFU and MTMTE images for mainpics already, and although this one is pretty bad, it's a change. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 20:06, 23 September 2012 (EDT)		:::Personally, I like it for the variety. We have an awful lot of TFU and MTMTE images for mainpics already, and although this one is pretty bad, it's a change. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 20:06, 23 September 2012 (EDT)
			::::Here's the MTMTE art, though it's typical Dreamwave.[[User:Riddlerj\|Riddlerj]] 16:49, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
			[[Image:TailgateMTMTEProfileArt.jpg\|150px]]

68.42.199.32 at 18:10, 25 September 2012

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	::::You act as if Furman or the Japanese mangas ignoring the bio character traits and making them generic guys acting generically is somehow uncommon. Never mind that in "Underworld", ''Tailgate is not on Earth''. Kind of a vital component to trigger his crazy missing there. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 15:06, 22 September 2012 (EDT)		::::You act as if Furman or the Japanese mangas ignoring the bio character traits and making them generic guys acting generically is somehow uncommon. Never mind that in "Underworld", ''Tailgate is not on Earth''. Kind of a vital component to trigger his crazy missing there. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 15:06, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
	::::::I really dislike giving his IDW personality complete prominence over the TFU/toy bio that has been his only character personality for decades.i thought our policy was the opening paragraph should be Continuity Neutral and if there were different portrayals they went in the fiction section? At the very least the TFU bio NEEDS to be here somewhere. It was Who he is FAR longer than his new IDW stuff well written or not.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 15:28, 22 September 2012 (EDT)		::::::I really dislike giving his IDW personality complete prominence over the TFU/toy bio that has been his only character personality for decades.i thought our policy was the opening paragraph should be Continuity Neutral and if there were different portrayals they went in the fiction section? At the very least the TFU bio NEEDS to be here somewhere. It was Who he is FAR longer than his new IDW stuff well written or not.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 15:28, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
			:::::::Query: Why is it that Tailgate's opening paragraph can't mention the personality he's been given in IDW, whereas Swerve's features it prominently? [[Special:Contributions/68.42.199.32\|68.42.199.32]] 14:10, 25 September 2012 (EDT)

	==Main image part 2==		==Main image part 2==

LV: /* Main image part 2 */

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Main image part 2

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	:It looks horrible, yes. [[Special:Contributions/68.42.199.32\|68.42.199.32]] 15:29, 23 September 2012 (EDT)		:It looks horrible, yes. [[Special:Contributions/68.42.199.32\|68.42.199.32]] 15:29, 23 September 2012 (EDT)
	::Agreed, the Universe art is preferred to this. Or perhaps if someone could snag the Dreamwave MTMTE art? I forgot if that was good or not. --[[User:Nu-Priest\|Nu-Priest]] 19:33, 23 September 2012 (EDT)		::Agreed, the Universe art is preferred to this. Or perhaps if someone could snag the Dreamwave MTMTE art? I forgot if that was good or not. --[[User:Nu-Priest\|Nu-Priest]] 19:33, 23 September 2012 (EDT)
			:::Personally, I like it for the variety. We have an awful lot of TFU and MTMTE images for mainpics already, and although this one is pretty bad, it's a change. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 20:06, 23 September 2012 (EDT)

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	i had a slight thought earlier one day, but its gone, so i'll say again. you know, in the comic, when he's draining the bomb? of propex? and the green inner energon? what if they mixed, and he poured out propex and energon for the vial as an offering to cyclonus? just a thought for a note, that went for some reason. -- [[User:Retep911\|Retep911]] 16:20, 28 december 2013		i had a slight thought earlier one day, but its gone, so i'll say again. you know, in the comic, when he's draining the bomb? of propex? and the green inner energon? what if they mixed, and he poured out propex and energon for the vial as an offering to cyclonus? just a thought for a note, that went for some reason. -- [[User:Retep911\|Retep911]] 16:20, 28 december 2013
	:Because James Roberts explicitly said that his energon is supposed to be that color. It had nothing to do with the propex. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour\|talk]]) 12:45, 28 December 2013 (EST)		:Because James Roberts explicitly said that his energon is supposed to be that color. It had nothing to do with the propex. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour\|talk]]) 12:45, 28 December 2013 (EST)
			:Thank you for clearing that up. I didn't know the writer had said that about the subject. Thanks again. [[User:Retep911\|Retep911]] 21:34, 30/12/2013 (GMT)

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	:As for the image... that doesn't seem to be a hard rule - the most obvious expression being the pages of those who appear in both the Prime cartoon and War for Cybertron, who should have WfC pictures for the mainpic by that rule - it both came out months before Prime episode 1 aired and is set before it fictionally (Starscream & Soundwave being the most blatant examples, since their bodies in the game and cartoon bear virtually no resemblance to one another). And there are others - shouldn't Movie Prime & Starscream have their Protoform bodies for mainpics, Optimus Primal should be his bat body, BW Megatron his alligator body, BW Dinobot have colouring to match the cartoon/original release rather than the BWX redeco with the bright blue highlights, and so forth. On that basis, since this is the first body in which Tailgate has ''regularly done stuff'' and shows character, this fits fine with my reading. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude\|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 06:34, 22 September 2012 (EDT)		:As for the image... that doesn't seem to be a hard rule - the most obvious expression being the pages of those who appear in both the Prime cartoon and War for Cybertron, who should have WfC pictures for the mainpic by that rule - it both came out months before Prime episode 1 aired and is set before it fictionally (Starscream & Soundwave being the most blatant examples, since their bodies in the game and cartoon bear virtually no resemblance to one another). And there are others - shouldn't Movie Prime & Starscream have their Protoform bodies for mainpics, Optimus Primal should be his bat body, BW Megatron his alligator body, BW Dinobot have colouring to match the cartoon/original release rather than the BWX redeco with the bright blue highlights, and so forth. On that basis, since this is the first body in which Tailgate has ''regularly done stuff'' and shows character, this fits fine with my reading. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude\|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 06:34, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
	::I disagree with your wall of text. Tailgate's intro paragraph has no excuse to completely ignore the only personality we know he has in any continuity but IDW, and whatever you think you wrote that included it, nobody but you sees it. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 10:00, 22 September 2012 (EDT)		::I disagree with your wall of text. Tailgate's intro paragraph has no excuse to completely ignore the only personality we know he has in any continuity but IDW, and whatever you think you wrote that included it, nobody but you sees it. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 10:00, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
	:::Okay, in short words - show me where in [[Underworld!\|UK #245]] or the [[Fight!~~_Super_Robot_Lifeform_Transform:::;ers_issue_7~~\|JG1 #7]]-[[Fight!_Super_Robot_Lifeform_Transformers_issue_8\|#8]], ''neither of which he is a background character in'', he shows ANY trace of the personality the TFU bio gives for him. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude\|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 10:54, 22 September 2012 (EDT)		:::Okay, in short words - show me where in [[Underworld!\|UK #245]] or the [[Fight!_Super_Robot_Lifeform_Transformers_issue_7\|JG1 #7]]-[[Fight!_Super_Robot_Lifeform_Transformers_issue_8\|#8]], ''neither of which he is a background character in'', he shows ANY trace of the personality the TFU bio gives for him. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude\|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 10:54, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
	::::You act as if Furman or the Japanese mangas ignoring the bio character traits and making them generic guys acting generically is somehow uncommon. Never mind that in "Underworld", ''Tailgate is not on Earth''. Kind of a vital component to trigger his crazy missing there. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 15:06, 22 September 2012 (EDT)		::::You act as if Furman or the Japanese mangas ignoring the bio character traits and making them generic guys acting generically is somehow uncommon. Never mind that in "Underworld", ''Tailgate is not on Earth''. Kind of a vital component to trigger his crazy missing there. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 15:06, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
	::::::I really dislike giving his IDW personality complete prominence over the TFU/toy bio that has been his only character personality for decades.i thought our policy was the opening paragraph should be Continuity Neutral and if there were different portrayals they went in the fiction section? At the very least the TFU bio NEEDS to be here somewhere. It was Who he is FAR longer than his new IDW stuff well written or not.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 15:28, 22 September 2012 (EDT)		::::::I really dislike giving his IDW personality complete prominence over the TFU/toy bio that has been his only character personality for decades.i thought our policy was the opening paragraph should be Continuity Neutral and if there were different portrayals they went in the fiction section? At the very least the TFU bio NEEDS to be here somewhere. It was Who he is FAR longer than his new IDW stuff well written or not.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206\|76.28.76.206]] 15:28, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

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	::Agreed, the Universe art is preferred to this. Or perhaps if someone could snag the Dreamwave MTMTE art? I forgot if that was good or not. --[[User:Nu-Priest\|Nu-Priest]] 19:33, 23 September 2012 (EDT)		::Agreed, the Universe art is preferred to this. Or perhaps if someone could snag the Dreamwave MTMTE art? I forgot if that was good or not. --[[User:Nu-Priest\|Nu-Priest]] 19:33, 23 September 2012 (EDT)
	:::Personally, I like it for the variety. We have an awful lot of TFU and MTMTE images for mainpics already, and although this one is pretty bad, it's a change. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 20:06, 23 September 2012 (EDT)		:::Personally, I like it for the variety. We have an awful lot of TFU and MTMTE images for mainpics already, and although this one is pretty bad, it's a change. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 20:06, 23 September 2012 (EDT)
			::::Here's the MTMTE art, though it's typical Dreamwave.[[User:Riddlerj\|Riddlerj]] 16:49, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
			[[Image:TailgateMTMTEProfileArt.jpg\|150px]]

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	:It looks horrible, yes. [[Special:Contributions/68.42.199.32\|68.42.199.32]] 15:29, 23 September 2012 (EDT)		:It looks horrible, yes. [[Special:Contributions/68.42.199.32\|68.42.199.32]] 15:29, 23 September 2012 (EDT)
	::Agreed, the Universe art is preferred to this. Or perhaps if someone could snag the Dreamwave MTMTE art? I forgot if that was good or not. --[[User:Nu-Priest\|Nu-Priest]] 19:33, 23 September 2012 (EDT)		::Agreed, the Universe art is preferred to this. Or perhaps if someone could snag the Dreamwave MTMTE art? I forgot if that was good or not. --[[User:Nu-Priest\|Nu-Priest]] 19:33, 23 September 2012 (EDT)
			:::Personally, I like it for the variety. We have an awful lot of TFU and MTMTE images for mainpics already, and although this one is pretty bad, it's a change. -[[User:LV\|LV]] 20:06, 23 September 2012 (EDT)