Talk:Tantrum (Prime) - Revision history

Go(toby070)Bots at 07:38, 22 May 2014

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	:::::::::::::Well they key problem is (as stated before) the origin, fraction, and the fact there are too many possibilities for anything to be possible (weather Retribution isn't or is part of the Titan continuity, which is ambiguos especially in the beginning), besides, we know nothing of the Decepticon Tantrum's alternate mode (it could be anything) we only know he is a homage to the original G1 character by the presence of the aligned versions Headstrong and Rampage, it just may not fuse that smoothly well together in one article unlike G1 Cerebros (who transforms into the head of a big guy sentient or not) or the Technobots (weather they were created in Unicron's head or just cybertrionians that were there), as the Predacon and Decepticon only share the homage aspect and nothing else.		:::::::::::::Well they key problem is (as stated before) the origin, fraction, and the fact there are too many possibilities for anything to be possible (weather Retribution isn't or is part of the Titan continuity, which is ambiguos especially in the beginning), besides, we know nothing of the Decepticon Tantrum's alternate mode (it could be anything) we only know he is a homage to the original G1 character by the presence of the aligned versions Headstrong and Rampage, it just may not fuse that smoothly well together in one article unlike G1 Cerebros (who transforms into the head of a big guy sentient or not) or the Technobots (weather they were created in Unicron's head or just cybertrionians that were there), as the Predacon and Decepticon only share the homage aspect and nothing else.
	::::::::::::::So thus, my ultimate advice is to simply keep them separate as to keep a bit of caution, and to put a note in their respective notes sections of this matter so that the public would understand better (after all, we editors aren't the only ones seeing the wiki, we also have to be respectful and be good to those who just come here to view the pages.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 17:32, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		::::::::::::::So thus, my ultimate advice is to simply keep them separate as to keep a bit of caution, and to put a note in their respective notes sections of this matter so that the public would understand better (after all, we editors aren't the only ones seeing the wiki, we also have to be respectful and be good to those who just come here to view the pages.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 17:32, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

	I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

Mimi: Mimi moved page Talk:Tantrum (Prime Predacon) to Talk:Tantrum (Prime) over redirect: Merging. More people for it than against

2014-05-21T14:15:34Z

Mimi moved page Talk:Tantrum (Prime Predacon) to Talk:Tantrum (Prime) over redirect: Merging. More people for it than against

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Go(toby070)Bots at 21:32, 10 May 2014

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	::::::::::::Retribution's part of the main Aligned universe. And we have people who are completely different from most incarnations of themselves, but still are aspects of the same person. IDW Galvatron and Hearts of Steel Scourge, for example. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		::::::::::::Retribution's part of the main Aligned universe. And we have people who are completely different from most incarnations of themselves, but still are aspects of the same person. IDW Galvatron and Hearts of Steel Scourge, for example. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
	:::::::::::::Well they key problem is (as stated before) the origin, fraction, and the fact there are too many possibilities for anything to be possible (weather Retribution isn't or is part of the Titan continuity, which is ambiguos especially in the beginning), besides, we know nothing of the Decepticon Tantrum's alternate mode (it could be anything) we only know he is a homage to the original G1 character by the presence of the aligned versions Headstrong and Rampage, it just may not fuse that smoothly well together in one article unlike G1 Cerebros (who transforms into the head of a big guy sentient or not) or the Technobots (weather they were created in Unicron's head or just cybertrionians that were there), as the Predacon and Decepticon only share the homage aspect and nothing else.		:::::::::::::Well they key problem is (as stated before) the origin, fraction, and the fact there are too many possibilities for anything to be possible (weather Retribution isn't or is part of the Titan continuity, which is ambiguos especially in the beginning), besides, we know nothing of the Decepticon Tantrum's alternate mode (it could be anything) we only know he is a homage to the original G1 character by the presence of the aligned versions Headstrong and Rampage, it just may not fuse that smoothly well together in one article unlike G1 Cerebros (who transforms into the head of a big guy sentient or not) or the Technobots (weather they were created in Unicron's head or just cybertrionians that were there), as the Predacon and Decepticon only share the homage aspect and nothing else.
			::::::::::::::So thus, my ultimate advice is to simply keep them separate as to keep a bit of caution, and to put a note in their respective notes sections of this matter so that the public would understand better (after all, we editors aren't the only ones seeing the wiki, we also have to be respectful and be good to those who just come here to view the pages.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 17:32, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

	I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

Go(toby070)Bots at 20:17, 10 May 2014

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	:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart, because they are far too different than the examples I have given.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart, because they are far too different than the examples I have given.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
	::::::::::::Retribution's part of the main Aligned universe. And we have people who are completely different from most incarnations of themselves, but still are aspects of the same person. IDW Galvatron and Hearts of Steel Scourge, for example. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		::::::::::::Retribution's part of the main Aligned universe. And we have people who are completely different from most incarnations of themselves, but still are aspects of the same person. IDW Galvatron and Hearts of Steel Scourge, for example. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
	:::::::::::::Well they key problem is (as stated before) the origin, fraction, and the fact there are too many possibilities for anything to be possible (weather Retribution isn't or is), besides, we know nothing of the Decepticon Tantrum's alternate mode (it could be anything) we only know he is a homage to the original G1 character by the presence of the aligned versions Headstrong and Rampage, it just may not fuse that smoothly well together in one article unlike G1 Cerebros (who transforms into the head of a big guy sentient or not) or the Technobots (weather they were created in Unicron's head or just cybertrionians that were there), as the Predacon and Decepticon only share the homage aspect and nothing else.		:::::::::::::Well they key problem is (as stated before) the origin, fraction, and the fact there are too many possibilities for anything to be possible (weather Retribution isn't or is part of the Titan continuity, which is ambiguos especially in the beginning), besides, we know nothing of the Decepticon Tantrum's alternate mode (it could be anything) we only know he is a homage to the original G1 character by the presence of the aligned versions Headstrong and Rampage, it just may not fuse that smoothly well together in one article unlike G1 Cerebros (who transforms into the head of a big guy sentient or not) or the Technobots (weather they were created in Unicron's head or just cybertrionians that were there), as the Predacon and Decepticon only share the homage aspect and nothing else.

	I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

Go(toby070)Bots at 20:16, 10 May 2014

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	:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart, because they are far too different than the examples I have given.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart, because they are far too different than the examples I have given.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
	::::::::::::Retribution's part of the main Aligned universe. And we have people who are completely different from most incarnations of themselves, but still are aspects of the same person. IDW Galvatron and Hearts of Steel Scourge, for example. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		::::::::::::Retribution's part of the main Aligned universe. And we have people who are completely different from most incarnations of themselves, but still are aspects of the same person. IDW Galvatron and Hearts of Steel Scourge, for example. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
			:::::::::::::Well they key problem is (as stated before) the origin, fraction, and the fact there are too many possibilities for anything to be possible (weather Retribution isn't or is), besides, we know nothing of the Decepticon Tantrum's alternate mode (it could be anything) we only know he is a homage to the original G1 character by the presence of the aligned versions Headstrong and Rampage, it just may not fuse that smoothly well together in one article unlike G1 Cerebros (who transforms into the head of a big guy sentient or not) or the Technobots (weather they were created in Unicron's head or just cybertrionians that were there), as the Predacon and Decepticon only share the homage aspect and nothing else.

	I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

Escargon at 19:55, 10 May 2014

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	::::::::::I'm with Mimi on this one. It's pretty obtuse to think there can't be any alternate universes in the Aligned frachise, despite what Hasbro says. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		::::::::::I'm with Mimi on this one. It's pretty obtuse to think there can't be any alternate universes in the Aligned frachise, despite what Hasbro says. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
	:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart, because they are far too different than the examples I have given.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart, because they are far too different than the examples I have given.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
			::::::::::::Retribution's part of the main Aligned universe. And we have people who are completely different from most incarnations of themselves, but still are aspects of the same person. IDW Galvatron and Hearts of Steel Scourge, for example. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
	I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

Go(toby070)Bots at 19:46, 10 May 2014

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	:::::::::Why are we pretending that Aligned is one consistent timeline or universe? It isn't and wasn't. Those two are takes on the same concept in different continuities and it's stupid to separate them. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi\|talk]]) 16:55, 8 May 2014 (EDT)		:::::::::Why are we pretending that Aligned is one consistent timeline or universe? It isn't and wasn't. Those two are takes on the same concept in different continuities and it's stupid to separate them. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi\|talk]]) 16:55, 8 May 2014 (EDT)
	::::::::::I'm with Mimi on this one. It's pretty obtuse to think there can't be any alternate universes in the Aligned frachise, despite what Hasbro says. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		::::::::::I'm with Mimi on this one. It's pretty obtuse to think there can't be any alternate universes in the Aligned frachise, despite what Hasbro says. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
	:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart, because they are far too different than the examples I have given.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

	I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

Go(toby070)Bots at 19:44, 10 May 2014

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	:::::::::Why are we pretending that Aligned is one consistent timeline or universe? It isn't and wasn't. Those two are takes on the same concept in different continuities and it's stupid to separate them. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi\|talk]]) 16:55, 8 May 2014 (EDT)		:::::::::Why are we pretending that Aligned is one consistent timeline or universe? It isn't and wasn't. Those two are takes on the same concept in different continuities and it's stupid to separate them. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi\|talk]]) 16:55, 8 May 2014 (EDT)
	::::::::::I'm with Mimi on this one. It's pretty obtuse to think there can't be any alternate universes in the Aligned frachise, despite what Hasbro says. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		::::::::::I'm with Mimi on this one. It's pretty obtuse to think there can't be any alternate universes in the Aligned frachise, despite what Hasbro says. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
			:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

	I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been ~~percieved~~ is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

Escargon at 19:37, 10 May 2014

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	::::::::::Admittedly Soundwave only talks in the story that flashbacks to the war, and WFC pretty much established that Soundwave used to talk back then. He's mute in the later stories. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 18:03, 4 May 2014 (EDT)		::::::::::Admittedly Soundwave only talks in the story that flashbacks to the war, and WFC pretty much established that Soundwave used to talk back then. He's mute in the later stories. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 18:03, 4 May 2014 (EDT)
	:::::::::Why are we pretending that Aligned is one consistent timeline or universe? It isn't and wasn't. Those two are takes on the same concept in different continuities and it's stupid to separate them. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi\|talk]]) 16:55, 8 May 2014 (EDT)		:::::::::Why are we pretending that Aligned is one consistent timeline or universe? It isn't and wasn't. Those two are takes on the same concept in different continuities and it's stupid to separate them. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi\|talk]]) 16:55, 8 May 2014 (EDT)
			::::::::::I'm with Mimi on this one. It's pretty obtuse to think there can't be any alternate universes in the Aligned frachise, despite what Hasbro says. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

	I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been percieved is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been percieved is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

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	:::::::::Why are we pretending that Aligned is one consistent timeline or universe? It isn't and wasn't. Those two are takes on the same concept in different continuities and it's stupid to separate them. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi\|talk]]) 16:55, 8 May 2014 (EDT)		:::::::::Why are we pretending that Aligned is one consistent timeline or universe? It isn't and wasn't. Those two are takes on the same concept in different continuities and it's stupid to separate them. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi\|talk]]) 16:55, 8 May 2014 (EDT)

	I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been percieved is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:32, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been percieved is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

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	:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart, because they are far too different than the examples I have given.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart, because they are far too different than the examples I have given.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
	::::::::::::Retribution's part of the main Aligned universe. And we have people who are completely different from most incarnations of themselves, but still are aspects of the same person. IDW Galvatron and Hearts of Steel Scourge, for example. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		::::::::::::Retribution's part of the main Aligned universe. And we have people who are completely different from most incarnations of themselves, but still are aspects of the same person. IDW Galvatron and Hearts of Steel Scourge, for example. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
			:::::::::::::Well they key problem is (as stated before) the origin, fraction, and the fact there are too many possibilities for anything to be possible (weather Retribution isn't or is), besides, we know nothing of the Decepticon Tantrum's alternate mode (it could be anything) we only know he is a homage to the original G1 character by the presence of the aligned versions Headstrong and Rampage, it just may not fuse that smoothly well together in one article unlike G1 Cerebros (who transforms into the head of a big guy sentient or not) or the Technobots (weather they were created in Unicron's head or just cybertrionians that were there), as the Predacon and Decepticon only share the homage aspect and nothing else.

	I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

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	::::::::::I'm with Mimi on this one. It's pretty obtuse to think there can't be any alternate universes in the Aligned frachise, despite what Hasbro says. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		::::::::::I'm with Mimi on this one. It's pretty obtuse to think there can't be any alternate universes in the Aligned frachise, despite what Hasbro says. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
	:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart, because they are far too different than the examples I have given.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart, because they are far too different than the examples I have given.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
			::::::::::::Retribution's part of the main Aligned universe. And we have people who are completely different from most incarnations of themselves, but still are aspects of the same person. IDW Galvatron and Hearts of Steel Scourge, for example. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
	I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

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	:::::::::Why are we pretending that Aligned is one consistent timeline or universe? It isn't and wasn't. Those two are takes on the same concept in different continuities and it's stupid to separate them. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi\|talk]]) 16:55, 8 May 2014 (EDT)		:::::::::Why are we pretending that Aligned is one consistent timeline or universe? It isn't and wasn't. Those two are takes on the same concept in different continuities and it's stupid to separate them. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi\|talk]]) 16:55, 8 May 2014 (EDT)
	::::::::::I'm with Mimi on this one. It's pretty obtuse to think there can't be any alternate universes in the Aligned frachise, despite what Hasbro says. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		::::::::::I'm with Mimi on this one. It's pretty obtuse to think there can't be any alternate universes in the Aligned frachise, despite what Hasbro says. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
	:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart, because they are far too different than the examples I have given.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

	I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

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	:::::::::Why are we pretending that Aligned is one consistent timeline or universe? It isn't and wasn't. Those two are takes on the same concept in different continuities and it's stupid to separate them. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi\|talk]]) 16:55, 8 May 2014 (EDT)		:::::::::Why are we pretending that Aligned is one consistent timeline or universe? It isn't and wasn't. Those two are takes on the same concept in different continuities and it's stupid to separate them. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi\|talk]]) 16:55, 8 May 2014 (EDT)
	::::::::::I'm with Mimi on this one. It's pretty obtuse to think there can't be any alternate universes in the Aligned frachise, despite what Hasbro says. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		::::::::::I'm with Mimi on this one. It's pretty obtuse to think there can't be any alternate universes in the Aligned frachise, despite what Hasbro says. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
			:::::::::::Well then again, when you are talking about alternate universes, then indeed anything can happen (Retribution is a story that technically took place in the past, so it could happen or not), now since I wrote my own previous edit, I could not help but think about Cerebros (G1) between the marvel comic and the cartoon (a comparable situation in other words), and even the techno-bots (expecially their cartoon origins in contrast to the other media where they were involved), but the two tantrums are completely different than what I have mentioned before (one is purely decepticon, and the other uses some CNA of a Predacon), so thus I am still with keeping them apart.[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:44, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

	I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been ~~percieved~~ is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been perceived is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

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	::::::::::Admittedly Soundwave only talks in the story that flashbacks to the war, and WFC pretty much established that Soundwave used to talk back then. He's mute in the later stories. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 18:03, 4 May 2014 (EDT)		::::::::::Admittedly Soundwave only talks in the story that flashbacks to the war, and WFC pretty much established that Soundwave used to talk back then. He's mute in the later stories. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 18:03, 4 May 2014 (EDT)
	:::::::::Why are we pretending that Aligned is one consistent timeline or universe? It isn't and wasn't. Those two are takes on the same concept in different continuities and it's stupid to separate them. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi\|talk]]) 16:55, 8 May 2014 (EDT)		:::::::::Why are we pretending that Aligned is one consistent timeline or universe? It isn't and wasn't. Those two are takes on the same concept in different continuities and it's stupid to separate them. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi\|talk]]) 16:55, 8 May 2014 (EDT)
			::::::::::I'm with Mimi on this one. It's pretty obtuse to think there can't be any alternate universes in the Aligned frachise, despite what Hasbro says. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

	I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been percieved is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)		I have read the idea to merge the two articles together, and while they are indeed based on the same G1 Tantrum, the way they have been percieved is very different, as the Decepticon one was part of the Nemesis, the Predacon one was cloned with bits of Starscream's CNA. plus if the Retribution story is in canon to some basis, then it would present the possibility of two Tantrums (plus with the cameo Kreons i have made allot of, it is possible to have multiple versions of the same character, and find a way to not get them confused (especially with giving a nickname and several pictures).[[User:Go(toby070)Bots\|Go(toby070)Bots]] ([[User talk:Go(toby070)Bots\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 May 2014 (EDT)